Amnesty push about to get ugly
Getting in people’s faces — I wonder where they got that idea
As reported by Politico, Immigration groups turn to anger:
Immigration reform advocates are done playing nice with House Republicans.
After holding their fire for years at the urging of the Obama administration, several immigration reform groups now plan to unleash their anger at the right.
A new, more aggressive campaign kicks off Tuesday, when these groups say they will begin confronting Republican lawmakers at public appearances, congressional hearings and events back in home districts.
The goal: Shame Republicans in swing districts into taking up the issue — or make them pay at the ballot box in November.It’s unclear if the strategy will truly damage Republicans with their constituents. Or worse, whether it might backfire and oust some of the movement’s best potential allies across the aisle….
“Obviously, persuasion only got us so far,” Kica Matos, a spokeswoman for the Fair Immigration Reform Movement, said Monday. “What we are now doing is to switch tactics from persuasion to punishment.”
Matos declined to say which members of Congress are at risk for the in-your-face treatment but warned that the campaign would be “relentless and constant.” America’s Voice and CASA in Action are also leading the effort. The plan for now is to engage in daily confrontations for at least the next two months, Matos said.
I think this backfires, because it highlights the disrespect for our laws and legislative process.
Getting in people’s faces — I wonder where they got that idea.
And don’t be surprised if someone gets hurt.
Update: Looks like disrupting congressional hearings and the like will be one of the new tactics (h/t Twitchy):
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If you’ll allow an analogy, politics is like a sporting event in which the MSM is supposed to play referee, objectively applying the rules to both sides. One of the lessons you learn in sports is not to hit back if an opponent hits you. The retaliation is often noticed and the offender penalized, while the aggressor gets away with a cheap shot. The MSM will ignore the provocation and exaggerate the response. They still control the narrative.
We need to push back on this stuff, but in a smart way. Can the GOP do that? We’ll know after this year’s elections, won’t we?
Wrong. Wrong. Wrong.
The MSM has NEVER been impartial. It has NEVER played by the same rules. But, they brainwashed us into believing that was the case. They brainwashed us into believe that reporters like Woodward and Bernstein were selfless and fair and only wrote the truth.
For most of my life 5 people decided what news you read, saw and heard: the editor at the NYT, the editor at the WAPO, and the news editors at ABC, CBS and NBC.
And, we used to make fun of people who read PRAVDA and believed it!
I think you may have missed my point.
you do realize you backed up exactly what the OP said right?
The MSM will ignore the provocation and exaggerate the response. They still control the narrative.
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The MSM will ignore the provocation and exaggerate the response. They still control the narrative.
We’re supposed to be intimidated by a group of people who are pissed off because we have laws that control immigration and citizenship? Go ahead guys, have your hissy fit. Raise hell and violate even more laws so we can put a stake in the heart of amnesty for the last time.
I wish.
Build the wall; then we’ll talk.
America is not a blank check.
We’ve passed immigration laws now let’s enforce them. What’s the point of allowing more lawless people into a lawless country.
And, no, I’m not going to argue with my neighbor and get in his face. But there are some heads I’d like to knock together in the DC area.
The GOP leadership should love this. These pro-amnesty groups will be attacking mostly the same enemy the GOP leadership has identified: Tea Party candidates with conservative positions on immigration reform.
I expect total silence from the GOP leadership, along with smirks behind hands.
Too utterly true.
I still fail to grasp how a group of criminals can make demands and actually have their demands be considered. Insane!
If a sufficiently large number of people disobey the law, the federal government, run as it is by politicians, will refuse to police them, seeking a political resolution instead. This is how marijuana is winning legalization. This is also how we could beat Obamacare or any other silly ass “orders” Washington may have for us. If a sufficiently large number of individual and corporate taxpayers were to say, “f**k you, we’re not complying with Obamacare,” they’d roll over rather than incur political damage.
The keys are that the numbers be sufficiently large and the political costs of prosecuting civil disobedients be too high.
Refusal To Comply as a grassroots effort has a great potential to catch on as a political force.
As I’ve said from 2009 to present, I personally refuse to comply with Obamacare and damn the consequences. I’ve made arrangements. I’d pray for the day some network news dweeb with a mic asked me why I think I can just ignore the law – I’d read him Obama’s presidential resume, chockful of examples of ignoring inconvenient laws.
That’s where the IRS comes in … the enforcers for the left. Romney’s 47% is only the precent of those that actually FILE their taxes. Only half of adults even bother to file at all … 140 million or so. So only 20% of the population actually pays significant income tax.
So productive honest people file, and of those only half pay. But the filers can all be punished by Lois Lerner types. Those living off grid, on the edge, illegal, gray market, underworld … they can easily scream for more benefits, or be belligerent to government. Non-filers, illegals, felons … the Democrat base.
But if you file as a C-4 and have an honest business, never investigated, every government union leftist stooge will use government power to assault you. The left WANTS us to know they will use government to attack innocent people … to intimidate us. We are pretty far down a bad path when the attacks occur publicly … and they brag about it and feel untouchable.
All of the IRS abuse puts a new perspective on the case of the guy in Austin, TX who flew his plane into the local IRS building. Everybody has their limit to the amount of abuse they will take.
But you’re talking about a lot of people who aren’t complying with the law to begin with. Where’s the upside to the government pandering to them? They have no legal status.
They vote D, they have organized and raise money for D.
Meanwhile, on the other side of the pond, the EU have their panties on a collective wad because Switzerland just approved a new law limiting the number of foreigners immigrating there – by referendum, no less.
Just imagine if the question of amnesty were to be placed on a national referendum here, instead of going through Congress.
It’s funny that you bring up a national referendum…I suggested that concept to the editor at our local paper where I work. Of course he (big time liberal) scoffed at that notion, but instead of immigration it was the ACA, just before one person in the supreme court changed it all. But you know the rest of that story? However I will propose that concept again, but with immigration.
They don’t care about Americans. They don’t care about the people who were left behind. Amnesty advocates do not want to discuss the issues. I don’t recall that in the past people who escaped from left-wing regimes avoiding discussing the failures of those systems. Illegal aliens are asylum seekers and should offer disclosure of the conditions which motivated their departure. Advocates for illegal aliens who avoid discussing the issues should reveal their ulterior motives to harm Americans and preserve the status quo in the immigrants’ home nations.
I hope it backfires but I can easily see how it might be a terrific strategy for the illegal immigrant groups.
We’re in a new era. When a rodeo clown gets a lifetime ban from a state fair and is forced to undergo sensitivity training because he wore an Obama mask as part of an entertainment skit, the people who control the phony outrage machine have the power. In this new era, the phony outrage makers can take one inartful utterance that would not even make the local news a decade ago, make it go viral, and turn a nothingburger comment or event into an international incident (remember Sarah Palin wearing a visor while on vacation being reported as news in The UK Telegraph and Guardian after the leftsphere went insane? I do.)
Combine that with the fact that in the Obama era Republicans are always portrayed as villains to facilitate MSM storytelling.
The point I’m making is that I think the probability is quite high that some Republicans will be unprepared for what they are about to be confronted with. We’ve seen this movie before. All it will take is one stupid comment and the phony outrage machine will fire up. They will make videos go viral, the MSM will pick up on it, and the entire GOP will be tarred with the comment. What a Congressman says may be perfectly appropriate within his conservative home district, but the leftsphere can still turn it into a national or international story if they can pretend it offends somebody somewhere else. I hope the GOP has learned from the past and is prepared to speak in boring, vague, and blasé ways to avoid controversy. I just doubt they can do it when the people who have the power to make audio and video snippets go viral want to see them fail.
“What we are now doing is to switch tactics from persuasion to punishment.”
Well, that’s a winning formula for success if I’ve ever heard one.
She might want to take the temperature of the general populace before they start down that road – people are fed up with this kind of behavior, and they are not going to take kindly to someone insisting that they don’t have to follow the same rules as everyone else.
People are MAD right now; not the best time to pick a fight….
The weak sisters in the GOP who are scared of enforcing the law have only themselves to blame for any ugliness they face. But if they start moving toward some type of legal status for illegal aliens it will not get better, it will only get worse.
If the weaklings in the GOP try to split the difference and create legal status without citizenship the Democrats already have their sledge hammer. The very next day the GOP will be accused of supporting ARPARTHEID. And the charges of apartheid won’t stop until the illegal aliens are given citizenship.
Who thinks ANY moderate GOP politician can respond to being charged as pro-apartheid? “Mr. Congressman, why do you support 2nd-class status for these poor families? Isn’t America all about equality for all?”
>>”I think this backfires, because it highlights the disrespect for our laws and legislative process.”
I don’t think it backfires, because republicans are cowards. The strategy makes sense from the Left’s point of view: If, as a rule, one pushes and resistance yields, then what lesson is there other than push harder to gain greater yield?
So “backfire” needs to be qualified. I agree that it will “backfire” in the sense that those Americans opposed to amnesty will be confirmed in their understanding (and outrage) of who supports lawlessness. But, again, this is essentially meaningless as to votes and reality in Washington. The GOP is not the party of Americans who oppose Obama and the growing tyranny of Big Government. It is an ersatz party, a facade, and its power and existence depend on a make-believe set of “principles” and on the fact it currently owns the market on “opposition.”
People are worried about jobs, the economy and the devastation caused by obamacare.
That’s why this will backfire. People will see someone getting really aggressive over a non-issue.
A poster that says it all:
http://ninetymilesfromtyranny.blogspot.com/2014/02/on-debt.html
We do not owe illegals squat, zilch, anything at all!
Right on schedule! The powers of persuasion giving way to outright force.
When Democrats and immigration activists talk about immigration reform, Republicans should talk about unemployment.
Every illegal immigrant who comes here to work deprives a citizen or legal resident of a job.
I’m guessing the update has an open italics tag
Yeah, step right up. Get in our faces. See where that gets ya.
Here, have a sack of frozen peas, you’ll need it.
It’s time to fight back people.