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Nidal Hasan GUILTY on all counts in Fort Hood shooting

Nidal Hasan GUILTY on all counts in Fort Hood shooting

In a unanimous verdict, Nidal Hasan has been found guilty on all counts in the November, 2009 Fort Hood massacre.

Hasan had been charged with 13 premeditated counts and an additional 32 attempted premeditated counts of murder.  Today’s verdict means that Hasan will face the death penalty.

From NBC-DFW:

In order for Hasan to face the death penalty, the jury’s 11 men and two women had to find him unanimously guilty of at least one count of premeditated murder as well as another murder charge. The military court system hasn’t executed an active-duty U.S. soldier since 1961.

Hasan — who acted as his own attorney — is accused of killing 13 people and wounding more than 30 others at the sprawling Texas military base in November 2009. But he declined to call any witnesses, testify in his own defense or give a closing argument during his trial.

Standby defense attorneys tried to be removed from the case, citing Hasan’s strategy to argue for his own death sentence as an ethical conflict. But the judge disagreed and ordered attorneys to remain on the case while Hasan continued to represent himself.

On the eve of his trial, Hasan released documents from his 2010 sanity board hearing in which he stated, “I am on the wrong side…I am Muslim first…I have to help my Muslim brothers overseas…the wars (in Iraq and Afghanistan) are wars against Islam.”

Jurors will decide whether or not to impose the death penalty. Sentencing is scheduled to begin on Monday.

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Comments

Henry Hawkins | August 23, 2013 at 2:24 pm

How come OSHA had no participation in this case of workplace violence?

So now that this “workplace violence” event has been settled when is Obama and Holder going to be put on trial for violating the public trust?

JackRussellTerrierist | August 23, 2013 at 2:29 pm

When will Hasan begin seeking a sex change operation?

You get a rope. I’ll find a tree.

Behead him and strap into a Barry to watch..

strap Barry into a CHAIR, damnit!

Subotai Bahadur | August 23, 2013 at 2:59 pm

With the degree of Command Influence in this case, one has to wonder what sentence the Court Martial has been ordered to impose.

And if, somehow, it is the death sentence; will Obama either commute or pardon?

And if someone gets a rope, do not forget to grease it with lard.

Subotai Bahadur

The person who needs to get the death penalty for this is whoever allowed this guy to stay in the service after hearing him spout off like he did. Also, those responsible for disarming troops on our bases have blood on their hands.

I was appalled to learn that Army bases are essentially gun free zones thanks to a Clinton administration policy. A few terrorists with the proper weapons could wipe out an entire base without fear of being shot back at until someone could run and break out the weapons. They would suffer more casualties attacking the typical mall than they would an Army base because the people there are better armed!

Every time you think things can’t become any more absurd than they already are the progressives come up with another bright idea.

    gmac124 in reply to Voluble. | August 23, 2013 at 3:31 pm

    When I was in the Army back in the 80’s and early 90’s we weren’t armed on base either. The MP’s were armed at the entrance points and on patrol like the local police. So no an Army base isn’t any better armed than your local suburban neighborhood most days. Main difference is nobody conceal carries on base. Being posted in a war zones is different but nobody would consider Fort Hood a war zone.

      Voluble in reply to gmac124. | August 23, 2013 at 4:04 pm

      That is good information. Do you know the specifics of what Clinton changed because I have seen that referred to in several places?

      I know I am an odd duck, but it seems to me when you are at war with an entity whose main strategy is terrorism and asymmetrical warfare that you would be foolish to ever let your guys go unarmed, even on base in the US.

        assemblerhead in reply to Voluble. | August 23, 2013 at 4:28 pm

        Agreed.

        Another lesson of Vietnam forgotten.

        That is one of the things the military did in response to the VC. All uniformed personnel had at least a issue side arm AT ALL TIMES.

        No one knew when the VC would act or who the VC infiltrators were.

    assemblerhead in reply to Voluble. | August 23, 2013 at 4:21 pm

    Two Reasons for the Unarmed Soldiers :

    First —

    A legacy of Vietnam.

    Armed groups of drafted / conscripted citizens would often get into firefights with the Military Police on base. ( They did not want to be shipped out. )

    Second —

    Liberal / Progressive paranoia over Soldiers with weapons and ammo on hand.

    During my duty time spent at Fort Hood, several robberies took place.
    One car, two male civilians, a .22 cal revolver, held up several National Guard companies on their 2 week ATs. They carted off about 200+ M16s. No ammo to shoot back permitted. ( early 90’s )

    Do not forget the Army Tank stolen in California a while back. ( Yes, that happens at Fort Hood too. )

    The Lesson —

    The Military is not permitted to guard its own weapons.

    Phillep Harding in reply to Voluble. | August 23, 2013 at 5:54 pm

    “No guns on base” for the troops goes back to about 1970, minimum. It was not enforced very well, or at all, in Florida, but that was the regulation.

    IIRC, there was a fuss about allowing firearms in the married officers’ housing on base as well.

    Seems to me there was a gunfight between the perimeter guards and those guarding the bunkers, both armed (that caused some amusement), but no one was armed on the rest of the base that I can recall.

    mzk in reply to Voluble. | August 25, 2013 at 4:25 am

    My Dad was in the Army during the Korean War and the Sergeant locked up everything at night.

nordic_prince | August 23, 2013 at 3:00 pm

Normally, I would be in favor of capital punishment. But since this puke is angling to get himself executed so he can be a martyr for “Allah,” let him rot behind bars for the rest of his natural life. And to make it more interesting for him, assign him to slop the hogs.

    Henry Hawkins in reply to nordic_prince. | August 23, 2013 at 3:24 pm

    Life also means him dodging further ‘workplace violence’ in the federal/military prison system. Works for me.

    Sanddog in reply to nordic_prince. | August 23, 2013 at 5:30 pm

    I would suggest ADX Florence. That will keep him from getting messages out and prevent media interviews.

    Juba Doobai! in reply to nordic_prince. | August 23, 2013 at 5:34 pm

    If you lard the bullets or the rope and let it be known after, no one will consider him a martyr. Um, Mae sure and tell him before dispatching him. Whisper it!

    PersonFromPorlock in reply to nordic_prince. | August 23, 2013 at 7:53 pm

    The problem there is that sooner or later innocents will be killed as his fellow jihadists try to force his release. Other than that, I agree.

      Imagine if the US was a small country that was dependent on the help of a larger one. I assume then this larger country would force the US to release Hassan to grease the way for peace talks with Al Kaida.

      You know, like the US just forced Israel to.

    rabidfox in reply to nordic_prince. | August 23, 2013 at 8:14 pm

    He can consider himself to be a martyr all he wants, what he IS is a murdering thug. His ‘virgins’ will probably be 72 virgin demon pigs.

WOW. Just Wow.

Breaking news, huh?

So, the mystery of the Ft. Hood shooter is solved. How did they ever find the evidence.

Nevermind, I’m being sarcastic. I know how they found the evidence. YEARS of crack investigative work.

Clearly the lesson learned here is that if you’re going to have a military installation, you’d better have a few women on the local police force nearby. They’re the first and last line of defense in case of attack.

He’s said that he’d rather die, because then he gets to be a martyr, than do a life sentence as a pathetic paraplegic.

Although I’m against the death penalty anyway, on broader ideological grounds, I’d think that even those in favor of it should be hoping that he gets life rather than death.

He wants to be a martyr. Why should we give him what he wants?

    Browndog in reply to Amy in FL. | August 23, 2013 at 3:54 pm

    Why?

    Maybe because the VICTIMS couldn’t care less what HE wants, and want the SOB OFF THE PLANET!!!

    he can kiss my a$$, I don’t care what HE wants.

    rabidfox in reply to Amy in FL. | August 23, 2013 at 8:17 pm

    Alive he is a magnet. For those who think the military is evil, for islamists, for politicians trying to make a name for themselves, etc. Can you see our pressy giving him a Presidential Pardon? I wouldn’t be unduly surprised. Execute him and get him out of the narrative.

Henry Hawkins | August 23, 2013 at 3:30 pm

Since workplace violence and domestic terrorism have been moved to the same page by our Commander In Chief, I wanted the following tidbit of news spread far and wide and have c & p-ed it from the Tip Line:

POPCORN ALERT

Oh, man. Get your popcorn and DVRs ready – in response to the planned 9/11 Million Muslim March on Washington DC, there is a planned TWO Million Biker March for 9/11:

https://www.facebook.com/2MillionBikersDC?ref=nf

This could get beautifully ugly.

    I admit that I don’t pay as close attention to these things as perhaps I should, but what on earth are the “million muslims” marching in aid of, on 9/11?

      Henry Hawkins in reply to Amy in FL. | August 23, 2013 at 4:13 pm

      There is a group of American Muslims organizing a Million Muslim March in DC on Sept 11th, AMPAC:

      “The event, first announced in January, is being organized by the American Muslim Political Action Committee (AMPAC), a fringe group led by M.D. Rabbi Alam, a professed 9/11 truther who has pushed controversial anti-Semitic conspiracy theories about the attacks. Last year, he made a failed bid for Missouri’s secretary of state, and his group has been doing little besides trying to attract national attention ever since.” -Huffington Post

      On their face, they say all the right things – they merely wish to improve relations between Muslim and non-Muslim Americans and they complain about ‘religious profiling’ but they are loosely disguised jihadist supporters. Jihadists like to spike the ball, so to speak, every Sept 11th, celebrating their attack in 2001. This group is no different. Now bikers are joining together to say hello when they arrive.

      http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/08/19/muslim-scholar-goes-off-on-million-muslim-march-organizer-youre-a-stooge-and-a-frontman/

      http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/08/17/muslim-group-criticized-for-planning-mass-demonstration-on-12th-anniversary-11/?cmpid=googextension

      http://www.mrconservative.com/2013/08/23107-hundreds-of-bikers-will-stage-a-counter-protest-against-million-muslim-march-on-dc-this-september-11/

      http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/15/million-muslim-march_n_3762974.html

      Juba Doobai! in reply to Amy in FL. | August 23, 2013 at 5:38 pm

      In aid of the suffering Muslims have experienced since 9/11 Avignon been wrongly blamed for the slaughter of 3,000, and how unfair it s for Muslims to be stigmatized as jihadist killers. Totally patriotic.

        Juba Doobai! in reply to Juba Doobai!. | August 23, 2013 at 5:48 pm

        Not Avignon, dagnabbit, having!

          Oh, goody. Well I’ll give you September 12th’s headline for free then: “American Muslims fear backlash over Million Muslim March”. Claiming to fear backlash (that sadly for them, never eventuates) seems to be their raisin debt*.

          *Raison d’être … We’re Avignon a bad day here 🙂
          Bless you, autocorrect!

        Phillep Harding in reply to Juba Doobai!. | August 23, 2013 at 5:58 pm

        Yet when a Christian preacher does something they dislike in the US, they yell “Collective guilt!” and massacre Christians half the planet away.

          Juba Doobai! in reply to Phillep Harding. | August 23, 2013 at 6:59 pm

          Look, I keep saying this, and some of y’all keep not believing it or think I’m racist (I’m black, dagnabbit, and everyone knows fer sher that black folks can’t possibly be racist!).

          Let me repeat my understanding, from global observation, of how Muslims think:

          We’re Muslims, dammit, and we’re allowed to kill you. That is our right, our responsibility, and our holy duty. You have no right or responsibility to stop us from killing you or to kill us for killing you. Your job is to die, just STHU and die. Let us do our koranic duty and kill you. Should you kill us for what we have done to you, you are at fault and we must take revenge and kill you because it is our holy duty to kill you for insulting Islam, the koran, and Muslims the world over by killing one Muslim who was trying to kill or has killed many of you. We are, you must admit we are, superior!

          Juba Doobai! in reply to Phillep Harding. | August 23, 2013 at 7:00 pm

          One last thing: that statement pretty much covers anything you might think, feel, say, or do that might negatively impact on Muslims, Islam, and the Koran.

        Juba Doobai! in reply to Juba Doobai!. | August 23, 2013 at 7:03 pm

        Happily for us, Amy, the 57 Muslims (one from every state) who have signed up for the march, will be met by the 2,000,000 Biker March on DC for 9/11 … until the folks in DC refuse to grant the 2MBM a permit.

          Rick the Curmudgeon in reply to Juba Doobai!. | August 24, 2013 at 2:20 am

          … until the folks in DC refuse to grant the 2MBM a permit.

          “Do I need a permit just to drive my motorcycle into DC and ride around a while?”
          “Do I need a permit if I bring a couple of my friends along?”
          (Imagine a looong line of people asking the same two questions.)

          Go American Bikers! Wing the throttle a couple times for me!

          And AMPAC, remember: “Don’t START no shit, won’t BE no shit.”

        Phillep Harding in reply to Juba Doobai!. | August 24, 2013 at 11:45 am

        “Spell check strikes again”? (There are a couple of hilarious web sites giving examples of spell check up-scrus. Can’t reach them any more thru the present filter.)

        Anyhow, your comments about the one way “justice” of Islam deserve many thumbs up. (This one way justice is the same as I’ve run into in clannish white trash: “Never remember a favor, never forget a slight, even an imaginary one.”

He won’t be a martyr, regardless of what he was taught to think.

Give him his death wish and be quick about it.

He will get the death penalty, and he will still outlive many of us.

Even if he gets the death penalty it will likely be some time before it is carried out. Until then I think Hasan and Manning should be bunkmates. Hasan can spend mornings counseling Manning on that gender issue and then afternoons converting him to Islam. By the time Manning gets out on parole he can be called whatever the Arabic equivalent is to Chelsea and join the Muslim community.

Frankly, lethal injection is too good for this guy. Since we can’t have a public hanging with pretzel vendors, I suggest a bolt gun. Quick, painless and for animals.

    gmac124 in reply to caseym54. | August 23, 2013 at 4:22 pm

    I would like to bring the rack back. A good operator could keep him alive in excruciating pain for a couple of days. 😉

Nothing wrong with using a rope to hang this bastard and I agree with the comment above above rubbing lard of the rope to make sure it doesn’t stretch from all his panic sweat.

Of course, if a firing squad is to be used, put Captain Black Jack Pershing in charge of that squad.

Henry Hawkins | August 23, 2013 at 5:17 pm

Force feed him pulled pork until he dies of heart disease? So many choices…..

    Pulled pork is too good. Feed him vienna sausage.

    Aonghus in reply to Henry Hawkins. | August 24, 2013 at 1:04 am

    Henry, we can’t do that, it would be disrespectful to Islam. Let’s execute him quickly in the most humane way possible. (We put rabid dogs down humanely, don’t we?)

    Then we take that pulled pork sandwich, shove it in his mouth and mount him on a spike overlooking the main parade grounds at Fort Hood.

    Facing Mecca, of course, because we want to be respectful… >;->

Wiat until he finds you he 72 virgins are all Bradley Manning look-alikes. With dicks.

Phillep Harding | August 23, 2013 at 6:42 pm

Doesn’t his admission on court that he changed sides constitute an admission to treason? Or was that the wrong kind of court?

    You’d think, wouldn’t you. But then the Government couldn’t continue with the ‘workplace violence’ nonsense so the judge didn’t allow that particular defense.

I can see no sign of mitigating circumstances or remorse. He earned a death penalty intentionally, and it should be imposed.

Henry Hawkins | August 23, 2013 at 9:21 pm

Death penalty followed by Obama commutation to life in prison on January 19th, 2017.

    punfundit in reply to Henry Hawkins. | August 25, 2013 at 8:35 am

    Unless they keep him in solitary, I suspect he will suffer the death penalty anyway. Not every servicemember in the brig hates his fellow servicemembers.