Apparently you’re not alone in feeling safe. American’s must like these type of invasive interrogations, since they haven’t done anything to put a stop to them in the past 4+ years – other than whine. Whine and submit, whine and submit – I perceive that the TSA doesn’t really care about the whining, just as long as their subjects of the realm submit.
I have to share the story of my last time flying. I guess the agent who frisked me felt I had an attitude, so they held up our luggage in Oakland for a few extra hours.
I’d rather not check in our suitcase, but I have to because I bring my skin care products in large bottles (it’s not available in travel sizes).
It’s a step up from when I had my lipstick confiscated on our honeymoon in 06. That was in Australia where, in addition to giving up my lipstick, I was frisked by a Muslim woman in headgear. I hear-heart-heart political correctness.
Flying El Al was easier because, for one, they pretty much only scrutinize you once. And plus, I knew I’m dealing with smart people who really are looking for terrorists.
Dear EOTSB, known to one and all as Edge: You’ve quite innocently, yet accurately, hit upon the crux of the TSA conundrum! After all, the great unknown is what is the function, and job of TSA? It can’t be to protect air travelers, since its approach and processes seem counterproductive to that goal. And, sorry to say this, but TSA wasn’t meant to provide el Messiah The One, his own personal civilian security army, unless he and “W” are in it together (No, no, no, a thousand times NO! Get hold of myself, for goodness sake!)
Ah, their is the crux and conundrum – the Dark Prince and Affable George are in ‘it’ together. This seems hard to believe, until you consider that the office of POTUS is principally a figurehead position – the bureaucracy maintains it’s stability through career bureaucrats and regulations writers. Regulations are written every month with the power of law – whereas no law was ever written or passed. There is the true power of all governments bigger than a city state. Notice please how both Affable George and the Dark Prince have fed that evil weed called ‘Big Government’. On a personal or character level, my thoughts are that Affable George did not hate America, whereas the Dark Prince hates everything (or so it appears).
Is it possible that giving the appearance of making flying safe for the general public is only a secondary or tertiary goal of the TSA? I contend that their primary purpose is to teach people to ‘submit’ to authority. The DHS have hired the most unlikely individuals for screening passengers; poorly educated, poorly paid and marginally trained. Then, heaped upon these same sub-competent screeners massive amounts of authority – the outcomes and conflicts are predictable. Why go to all this trouble to be offensive? What results is the DHS hoping to generate? Obedient subjects with a sense of helplessness – people who have grown comfortable allowing others to dictate what they can or cannot do. Learn to obey, or pay the consequences.
Is it possible that the TSA is little more than a training program for the general public? Who are they reaching? City bus riders, train riders, airline passengers and a host of others – obedience without recourse. Obey or suffer – while our response is; “I’m in a hurry, so I’ll obey this time – and make allowances the next time.”
I am “sure” its just coincidence but I have yet to see a person of color targeted by the TSA for one of these horrific molestations. Just like the D.C. Metro only blacks need apply to the TSA. anymore. Guess its sort of a Reparation that lets them get to abuse Whitey.
I’m not a big fan of HBO films but they were spot in with the tsa scene in “Taking Chance”. OT I also had a good laugh at the scene where Kevin Bacon is inspecting the Marine’s body prior to the funeral and says, “He has a lot of medals for a PFC”. Every Marine knew someone like that.
Snow White ate a poison apple, and she didn’t cry.
Cinderella had to clean the house non-stop, and she wasn’t sobbing.
If this little girl is so selfish and self-centered that she can’t understand that if she doesn’t submit to this ludicrous and humiliating patdown, then 32-year-old graduate student Mohammed with the two-day 5 o’clock shadow and tattered backpack over there will feel singled out … then we’re babying our babies.
Those agents know damned well it’s not illegal to videotape them. This has been reinforced over and over and they’ve received training on this very point. If a TSA agents lies to you, they can’t be trusted to perform a check and I would not allow that person to touch me or any of my belongings.
Why does anyone fly anymore unless they really have to? Stop the dollar flow revenue for the airlines and perhaps if we had a normal federal administration (Ok, so we don’t, we bad!) there might be reasonable fixes to TSA and its blatant stupidity, it’s idiotic practices.
It’s almost like the Feds want ineffective practices in the TSA to match what so many Dhimmicrats want in their gun control proposals.
Indeed, I was speaking to a geologist some years ago whose criteria was “500 miles or less, drive”. To prove a point he dropped some colleagues off at the airport in New York, drove off and was there at Pittsburgh airport to pick them up.
And this was before the recent TSA madness, so I imagine he has upped the cut-off mileage since.
Lots of things here. Except for the lamby which has to be taken away to be screened , the child is just upset .
The wheelchair must be further screened because it raised an alarm.
There is very little room for personalised exemptions .
Another theoretical factor is that she is over dressed in a winter coat when her sibling has a t shirt on . Possibly a body temperature management thing but she does look very hot. One of th triggers for extra attention is when one member of the party is over dressed compared to the others.
I imagine the other daughter, being far more mobile and not confined to a wheelchair, probably took her coat off herself before going through the security checkpoint.
Life involves risk. I’ll take the risk of a plane going down if it keeps a 3 year old child in a wheelchair from being terrorized by TSA agents. How about a little smart profiling? Of course, we’d have to get rid of the TSA first and hire professionals….
The vid does not explain where they are in the process. You are making a supposition about the coat , for the other child is not carrying it & one is not permitted to leave unattended items around.
Would you be quite willing for a hijabbed wheelchair child to be let on the plane unfrisked ?
IMO the best outcome would be other passengers being sympathetic of the needs of a wheelchair – not an easy thing in economy class.
Similar vids haven been posted for 2 years . Parents ned to educate themselves on all likely hurdles a child would face. I have seen many informed children waiting in line with their bravest faces on.
So they too can learn early the risk of not just snakes on planes.
Whelp, I have no objection to singling out the wheelchair for a search. HOWEVER, every agent who told the woman she couldn’t record them making the search should be fired. That’s a lie, they’ve been trained it’s a lie, and there should be zero tolerance for attempts to search anyone, let alone a young child, without a recording.
There would be regulations about where filming would be permitted & where not. This. would need to be part of a submission & considered response not just a indignant vid.
Certainly when I have travelled to the US , I have had to enter an extra area after international security for agents to inspect shoes , hand luggage , pockets & pat downs . Filming is not permitted because each passenger is profiled I am sure but everyone still gets a hit.
That is life in 2013 . Nobody has to fly especially to stupid DisneyWorld.
The only time passengers should ever be taken anywhere filming isn’t permitted is after being arrested, and they should confiscate recording devices as part of the arrest process anyway.
Ha – at least thanks Sanddog for responding . Cowards just tick Down.
Another thing – the child clearly says – ‘I don’t want to go to Disney World.’
Why doesn’t the mother listen to her child if she is really so affected & go home ? So now the kid has lost all privacy & will be on the intenet forever . Not as a happy child playing or sitting with her dog but being in distress.
Dat ain’t nuttin says the other 7 million countrymen
who are ne’er flyin agin. Dey got abducted & anally probed by alien abductors so any that other global airport travellers are jealous & demanding
Why is it always Americans ?
Some did not even go to the airport. Whisk outta their cars & off the sofas.
Because the British people are subjects, not citizens. Because the British people have been kowtowed by years of political correctness and “Progressive” reforms. Because the British people have been defeated and bear no resemblence to the brave souls that carried on through WW2. Because Great Britian ain’t so “Great” anymore. That is why you don’t see this at Heathrow…..
You line up at airports like anyone else would in China or Russia .Then a kid with a Shirley Temple hairstyle brings back memories of yesteryear when ye were real men.
Fantasy ends. There is no Hollywood revolution . She went on her flight & went to stupid DisneyWorld where she lined up in more lines. Then she returned by airplane .
So, why do we allow perverts to fondle us before we fly? Because it makes the idiots feel safer. It doesn’t make them safer. TSA & Homeland Security have NEVER caught a a terrorist. Nor, I suspect will they ever.
Disolve the agency, fire all the meatheads and turn this over the the airlines/airport…make the airlines and airports liable for any acts of terrorism on their premises…and watch the bullshit end…and effective airline/airport security ensue.
If you think terrorists would hesitate to stuff a wheel chair or a stuffed toy with explosives, you are nuts.
I don’t think the TSA is the way to go, though.
The money behind the terrorists is coming from Saudi Arabia, Iran, and maybe some other Moslem countries, who are supplying our oil, and bribing our politicians (IMO) to not drill in the US.
How do we clean up our own politics enough to be able to act against those who actually support terrorists?
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Don’t cry little girl … after Mr. TSA’s Wild Ride, the scariest rides at Disney World will be a breeze!
Listen, sweetheart, you wouldn’t want your Lamby doll to blow up the airplane, would you?
Then you couldn’t go to Disneyworld and ride the Flying Imams … I mean, Dumbo.
You won’t get frisked when you ride Dumbo.
I feel so safe…
Apparently you’re not alone in feeling safe. American’s must like these type of invasive interrogations, since they haven’t done anything to put a stop to them in the past 4+ years – other than whine. Whine and submit, whine and submit – I perceive that the TSA doesn’t really care about the whining, just as long as their subjects of the realm submit.
I have to share the story of my last time flying. I guess the agent who frisked me felt I had an attitude, so they held up our luggage in Oakland for a few extra hours.
I’d rather not check in our suitcase, but I have to because I bring my skin care products in large bottles (it’s not available in travel sizes).
It’s a step up from when I had my lipstick confiscated on our honeymoon in 06. That was in Australia where, in addition to giving up my lipstick, I was frisked by a Muslim woman in headgear. I hear-heart-heart political correctness.
Flying El Al was easier because, for one, they pretty much only scrutinize you once. And plus, I knew I’m dealing with smart people who really are looking for terrorists.
Dear EOTSB, known to one and all as Edge: You’ve quite innocently, yet accurately, hit upon the crux of the TSA conundrum! After all, the great unknown is what is the function, and job of TSA? It can’t be to protect air travelers, since its approach and processes seem counterproductive to that goal. And, sorry to say this, but TSA wasn’t meant to provide el Messiah The One, his own personal civilian security army, unless he and “W” are in it together (No, no, no, a thousand times NO! Get hold of myself, for goodness sake!)
Ah, their is the crux and conundrum – the Dark Prince and Affable George are in ‘it’ together. This seems hard to believe, until you consider that the office of POTUS is principally a figurehead position – the bureaucracy maintains it’s stability through career bureaucrats and regulations writers. Regulations are written every month with the power of law – whereas no law was ever written or passed. There is the true power of all governments bigger than a city state. Notice please how both Affable George and the Dark Prince have fed that evil weed called ‘Big Government’. On a personal or character level, my thoughts are that Affable George did not hate America, whereas the Dark Prince hates everything (or so it appears).
The purpose of the TSA CANNOT be to make us safe.
I hold that it is intended to make air travel VERY unattractive to Americans.
Just think what it will be like when we are forced out of our cars, and into pubic transportation…!?!?!
This is ONE of several agencies that need to see the ash-heap of history…and outrage.
Is it possible that giving the appearance of making flying safe for the general public is only a secondary or tertiary goal of the TSA? I contend that their primary purpose is to teach people to ‘submit’ to authority. The DHS have hired the most unlikely individuals for screening passengers; poorly educated, poorly paid and marginally trained. Then, heaped upon these same sub-competent screeners massive amounts of authority – the outcomes and conflicts are predictable. Why go to all this trouble to be offensive? What results is the DHS hoping to generate? Obedient subjects with a sense of helplessness – people who have grown comfortable allowing others to dictate what they can or cannot do. Learn to obey, or pay the consequences.
Is it possible that the TSA is little more than a training program for the general public? Who are they reaching? City bus riders, train riders, airline passengers and a host of others – obedience without recourse. Obey or suffer – while our response is; “I’m in a hurry, so I’ll obey this time – and make allowances the next time.”
We are definitely not in Kansas anymore, Toto. I fear for what it’s going to be like for my grandkids.
Crying should be seen as an admission of guilt.
That does not bode well for Hillary.
Nor John Boehner.
A society in terminal decline…
If this were happening to terrorists apprehended and brought to Gitmo the ACLU would be all over this.
I am “sure” its just coincidence but I have yet to see a person of color targeted by the TSA for one of these horrific molestations. Just like the D.C. Metro only blacks need apply to the TSA. anymore. Guess its sort of a Reparation that lets them get to abuse Whitey.
I’m not a big fan of HBO films but they were spot in with the tsa scene in “Taking Chance”. OT I also had a good laugh at the scene where Kevin Bacon is inspecting the Marine’s body prior to the funeral and says, “He has a lot of medals for a PFC”. Every Marine knew someone like that.
This is a teachable moment.
The kid is going to Disney World.
Snow White ate a poison apple, and she didn’t cry.
Cinderella had to clean the house non-stop, and she wasn’t sobbing.
If this little girl is so selfish and self-centered that she can’t understand that if she doesn’t submit to this ludicrous and humiliating patdown, then 32-year-old graduate student Mohammed with the two-day 5 o’clock shadow and tattered backpack over there will feel singled out … then we’re babying our babies.
Listen, little princess … suck it up.
Oh, dear, you just made me choke! If that isn’t the truth, I don’t know what is…
Sippy-cup summit?
Hopefully the sequester will mean the jobs of these TSA storm troopers.
You’ll have a better chance of hoping to win the lottery.
It is NOT illegal to videotape checkpoints. Yes, they can’t make your life a pain and you might have to go to court to (as one Phoenix man had to recently – acquitted by a jury)- But if EVERYONE does it – they simply can longer “make an example” out of people to intimidate them and infringe on our rights.
http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110714/13152115094/tsa-agents-continue-to-lie-say-you-cant-photograph-videotape-checkpoints.shtml
Lying TSA agents? Say it ain’t so!
Those agents know damned well it’s not illegal to videotape them. This has been reinforced over and over and they’ve received training on this very point. If a TSA agents lies to you, they can’t be trusted to perform a check and I would not allow that person to touch me or any of my belongings.
Why does anyone fly anymore unless they really have to? Stop the dollar flow revenue for the airlines and perhaps if we had a normal federal administration (Ok, so we don’t, we bad!) there might be reasonable fixes to TSA and its blatant stupidity, it’s idiotic practices.
It’s almost like the Feds want ineffective practices in the TSA to match what so many Dhimmicrats want in their gun control proposals.
Indeed, I was speaking to a geologist some years ago whose criteria was “500 miles or less, drive”. To prove a point he dropped some colleagues off at the airport in New York, drove off and was there at Pittsburgh airport to pick them up.
And this was before the recent TSA madness, so I imagine he has upped the cut-off mileage since.
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Lots of things here. Except for the lamby which has to be taken away to be screened , the child is just upset .
The wheelchair must be further screened because it raised an alarm.
There is very little room for personalised exemptions .
Another theoretical factor is that she is over dressed in a winter coat when her sibling has a t shirt on . Possibly a body temperature management thing but she does look very hot. One of th triggers for extra attention is when one member of the party is over dressed compared to the others.
I imagine the other daughter, being far more mobile and not confined to a wheelchair, probably took her coat off herself before going through the security checkpoint.
Life involves risk. I’ll take the risk of a plane going down if it keeps a 3 year old child in a wheelchair from being terrorized by TSA agents. How about a little smart profiling? Of course, we’d have to get rid of the TSA first and hire professionals….
The vid does not explain where they are in the process. You are making a supposition about the coat , for the other child is not carrying it & one is not permitted to leave unattended items around.
Would you be quite willing for a hijabbed wheelchair child to be let on the plane unfrisked ?
IMO the best outcome would be other passengers being sympathetic of the needs of a wheelchair – not an easy thing in economy class.
Similar vids haven been posted for 2 years . Parents ned to educate themselves on all likely hurdles a child would face. I have seen many informed children waiting in line with their bravest faces on.
So they too can learn early the risk of not just snakes on planes.
This is not nearly as unpleasant as witnessing a young child being just plain terrified & further suffering excruciating ear pain on descent.
They don’t just whimper , they demonstrate being at the top of the evolutionary scream meter.
Terrifying.
Whelp, I have no objection to singling out the wheelchair for a search. HOWEVER, every agent who told the woman she couldn’t record them making the search should be fired. That’s a lie, they’ve been trained it’s a lie, and there should be zero tolerance for attempts to search anyone, let alone a young child, without a recording.
There would be regulations about where filming would be permitted & where not. This. would need to be part of a submission & considered response not just a indignant vid.
Certainly when I have travelled to the US , I have had to enter an extra area after international security for agents to inspect shoes , hand luggage , pockets & pat downs . Filming is not permitted because each passenger is profiled I am sure but everyone still gets a hit.
That is life in 2013 . Nobody has to fly especially to stupid DisneyWorld.
The only time passengers should ever be taken anywhere filming isn’t permitted is after being arrested, and they should confiscate recording devices as part of the arrest process anyway.
Ha – at least thanks Sanddog for responding . Cowards just tick Down.
Another thing – the child clearly says – ‘I don’t want to go to Disney World.’
Why doesn’t the mother listen to her child if she is really so affected & go home ? So now the kid has lost all privacy & will be on the intenet forever . Not as a happy child playing or sitting with her dog but being in distress.
So are you volunteering to have your testicles fondled for all to see every time you go through security? I know I would feel “safer.”
Dat ain’t nuttin says the other 7 million countrymen
who are ne’er flyin agin. Dey got abducted & anally probed by alien abductors so any that other global airport travellers are jealous & demanding
Why is it always Americans ?
Some did not even go to the airport. Whisk outta their cars & off the sofas.
Nuttin like that happens at Heathrow.
Because the British people are subjects, not citizens. Because the British people have been kowtowed by years of political correctness and “Progressive” reforms. Because the British people have been defeated and bear no resemblence to the brave souls that carried on through WW2. Because Great Britian ain’t so “Great” anymore. That is why you don’t see this at Heathrow…..
You guys are pussies . Miao .
You line up at airports like anyone else would in China or Russia .Then a kid with a Shirley Temple hairstyle brings back memories of yesteryear when ye were real men.
Fantasy ends. There is no Hollywood revolution . She went on her flight & went to stupid DisneyWorld where she lined up in more lines. Then she returned by airplane .
That’s it folks.
So, why do we allow perverts to fondle us before we fly? Because it makes the idiots feel safer. It doesn’t make them safer. TSA & Homeland Security have NEVER caught a a terrorist. Nor, I suspect will they ever.
Disolve the agency, fire all the meatheads and turn this over the the airlines/airport…make the airlines and airports liable for any acts of terrorism on their premises…and watch the bullshit end…and effective airline/airport security ensue.
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There surely are special places in Hell reserved for TSA agents and tedious internet trolls. Might even be the same place.
If you think terrorists would hesitate to stuff a wheel chair or a stuffed toy with explosives, you are nuts.
I don’t think the TSA is the way to go, though.
The money behind the terrorists is coming from Saudi Arabia, Iran, and maybe some other Moslem countries, who are supplying our oil, and bribing our politicians (IMO) to not drill in the US.
How do we clean up our own politics enough to be able to act against those who actually support terrorists?