Please tell me this is not happening, Boehner offers ‘Plan B’ in ‘fiscal cliff’ talks:
House Speaker John A. Boehner has launched “Plan B” in budget talks, announcing Tuesday that he will bring for a vote his proposal to extend expiring tax breaks for all but the wealthiest Americans who earn more than $1 million a year.
The Ohio Republican’s decision, shared behind closed doors during a morning meeting of rank-and-file lawmakers, is an abrupt shift after he and Obama substantially narrowed their differences in the latest round of talks.
How’s Plan B working out? Thank you for raising your bid, now raise it again:
WH rejects Boehner’s Plan B — Carney says POTUS “not willing to accept a deal that doesn’t ask enough of the very wealthiest in taxes”
— Ed Henry (@edhenryTV) December 18, 2012
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OUTRAGE! OUTRAGE! OUTRAGE! Boehner MUST GO!
Dude! STOP. TALKING.
WALK. AWAY.
NOW!!!!
Losing elections has consequences. Blaming Boehner for the folks that stayed home because they wouldn’t vote for a Mormon/RINO/rich guy/whatever isn’t productive. It’s going to get worse than this, too.
Keep blaming people for refusing to vote for Romney because of dumb reasons. Most of us voted for him IN SPITE of his defeciencies. But IMO Boehner has p*ssed away the value of having the majority in the House so yes – next cycle people will probably stay home.
It appears to make no difference if we vote – we either get Dems who shaft us or Reps who lie to us and then shaft us. At least the Democrats don’t waste our time getting our hopes up.
You’re right. I swallowed my distaste & voted for Romney much as I did not want to.
Anyone see the Drudge headline?
Boehner Adopts Peolsi Plan
It’s accompanied by a huge photo of Pelosi laughing her head off.
I say again: Never trust a golfer.
So Boehner said yes to Obama’s tax hikes and Obama rejected it anyway?
The only logical conclusion is that Obama is determined to go over the Fiscal Cliff.
So, at least Boehner’s actions have revealed that much.
There is compromise and there is submission. I hope Republicans know the difference. Obama certainly does.
Boehner does not care what the Republican base wants, or what is good for the country. He is concerned with protecting the continued position of the Institutional Republicans within the Nomenklatura and actively hates Conservatives. It is better from the Nomenklatura‘s point of view to be left sucking hind teat for a share of Federal pork than to risk standing up to the country’s enemies.
There is no future for Conservatives of any stripe in the Republican party. I have been active in the Republican party since before the nomination of Reagan. I have only missed one precinct caucus in all that time, and that was the year I lost a son and did no politics. I usually am elected as a delegate to higher assemblies, including State. I have been one of the 5 people who one year ran a presidential campaign in my county, very successfully.
I am just waiting for Boehner to finally surrender, and will immediately go to the County Clerk’s office to change my registration to “unaffiliated”. And that will only be because I cannot register as “TEA Party”, “Patriot Party”, or some similar designation.
The fact that the Democrats’ margin of theft is now beyond electoral correction, and the lack of a rule of law in this country; has brought me to believe that the coming hard times can no longer be prevented by electoral means. In those times, there are going to be divides in who we are as a people. Being a Democrat is going to be the mark of Cain as far as being an enemy of the Constitution. Being a Republican is not going to mean the opposite. It will mean that Republicans will have to be evaluated more closely to determine their true allegiances.
Subotai Bahadur
That sounds about right. Neither fundamental corruption nor exceptional corruption is desirable or sustainable.
It seems that human behavior can be modeled by physical laws.
Newton’s Three Laws of Motion
1. Every object in a state of uniform motion tends to remain in that state of motion unless an external force is applied to it.
The object is people. The state of motion is corruption.
Progressive corruption will become conclusive corruption unless acted upon by morality, which in human society is enforced through competing interests (ultimately individuals).
2. F = ma
Corruption will increase directly proportionate to increasing number people or dysfunctional behaviors.
3. For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction.
This assumes a balance between corrupt and moral individuals. This assumption is increasingly unwarranted as we normalize behaviors which are either marginally or strictly dysfunctional.
Nature provides insight into our seemingly nebulous human problems.
My condolences to the loss of your son, first and foremost. I’ll be honest and was going to be a little arrogant by saying that maybe conservatism should go because it isn’t congruent with what this country or world needs anymore. I thought better of it after some thought, and apologize. Instead I’d like to say that old values are what we need to a point. I just want to say that I respect your viewpoint, but I believe times are changing. Whether you’re a democrat or republican makes little difference. The conservative value of respect, mercy, love and honesty have given way to the new value of greed and lust for power. Our country has shown what unbridled capitalism can due to a country. Like most ideas, it looks good on paper, but absolute power corrupts absolutely. I believe they (the government and corporate powers) are really all on the same page. It may very well be that all the ridiculous plans they come up with for the people they are supposed to govern are purposely designed to frustrate us. That way whatever they force the public to accept will seem tame after so much desensitizing stupidity. It’s may all be a ruse. They could do better if they really wanted with all that accumulated education. I see it like corporate big wigs that make shady deals behind closed doors while pretending to offer the public “competitive” choices. It’s like price gouging. It’s not an unfathomable possibility. I’m sure they learned something from their lobbyist and corporate interest friends. Everything is locked up in greed, but don’t lose faith. Such things sometimes have to occur for change to be made possible through other constructive means. The light always throws away the dark. It’s just a matter of time. Becoming independent may very well be a good idea. Accepting their ideas is nothing more than accepting someone telling you how to think. Then it’s the blind leading the blind.
Unbelievable. Never mind the fact that Plan B is horrible, the rejection by the White House of Pelosi’s plan should broadcast to even the most mentally challenged that Obama don’t want a deal – period.
Boehner should go back, pass something resembling a *sane* bipartisan plan, send it to the Senate, and send the House home for Christmas. Let Obama and Reid twist in the wind.
I used to like Boehner. Can’t understand why he’s making such poor decisions. It’s not as if he isn’t getting some sound advice from folks like Jacobson & Krauthammer & one hopes sensible members of his House. He used to listen.
While I remain more likely to vote Republican than Democrat in future, I do not regret switching my registration to unenrolled in protest before the last election. We need candidates who stand for something.