in the psychiatric implosion on the left resulting from Obama’s empty chair performance at the debate?
It’s a guilty pleasure … maybe not guilty … just a pleasure.
Notice even Andrea Mitchell has trouble with unfettered spin on the jobs numbers. That’s why it’s important to make our voices heard, it doesn’t prevent the pro-Obama spin, it just slows it down.
Anne adds: A crowd of Obama supporters lined up to see the President speak in Madison, Wisc., on Thursday was less than enthusiastic about his debate performance earlier in the week. When asked, “how inspired were you by the President’s debate performance” by Rebel Pundit‘s Jeremy Segal, they couldn’t muster any excitement for the very man they were waiting to see:
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Absolutely not… It’s been long overdue!
A couple more stellar performances by Mr. Romney and I’ll go out to the backyard and do a Snoopy dance on top of the dawg haus…
I can’t stand to watch SNL anymore… but they did a spoof on the MSNBC post-debate reactions that was fairly entertaining.
http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/msnbc-debate-fallout/1419929
I am a bit worried about people getting overconfident about the Biden/Ryan debate. I read that Biden will be prepping for the next six days. As I recall he was pretty good in the Palin debate. I just don’t think we should underestimate him.
Ryan won’t. He’ll be well prepped, as he always is. He’ll also have the facts on his side.
I agree, but I think Ryan will do fine no matter how ‘well’ Joe does. Don’t forget the public smackdown he gave BO in his presence on Obamacare. Ryan is unafraid. A Ryan flameout would be a surprise on the order of BO’s, but the chances of that are far lower – Ryan isn’t afflicted with BO’s character flaws and is prepared from the gitgo. The age difference may be too much for Joe, in that it may irresistibly tempt him to talk down to Ryan, which would be a big mistake (for Biden).
My guess is that Biden’s strategy will be to rattle Ryan with aggressive lies as he pours on the BS “Uncle Joe” bonhomie. It’s what he did against Palin. But he needs to amp it up to Thunderdome leves. From Biden’s point of view, he needs to overwhelm this debate like a Falstaffian figure, mixing theatrical ingratiation, vicious sarcasm, feigned affront and outrageous lies. He needs to leave an impression of total domination. This will be performance art. He knows he’ll not be fact-checked. The Left is desperate for a victory here and will cover for every lie.
Ryan may be only politician in America able to maintain cordiality while eviscerating false narratives. Because his decency is genuine. If he can keep his cool, stick to facts and hit back on the lies, he can make Biden look like the clown he is.
I agree no one should underestimate Biden, but Palin won their debate in ’08.
I think if Biden loses to Palin, who was not a policy wonk at the time, he will lose to Ryan. Ryan just needs to humanize himself like Romney did and Biden will lose it, which is likely.
This will be interesting Thursday. Ryan may continue the momentum for Romney and if Romney wins in the second debate, arguably the most difficult, he is at that point almost assuredly going to be president.
Maybe Palin won the debate, but my Google search indicates she did not win the polls. (She did exceed expectations.)
Afaic Ryan is a clear favorite—provided he preps hard, does not take Biden lightly, and understands that prevailing only on the facts probably will not win over the audience.
I expect Biden to attempt to come out angry and swinging in order to amp up their very depressed base. I can only hope he does so to disastrous effect but as the OP said, we shouldn’t underestimate him.
When I’ve watched Ryan debate Matthews et al on Youtube, he always does very well. He seems to be the one guy to whom Matthews shows respect and doesn’t try to talk over him.
I have a hunch that Biden will try to “win” by being loud, attempt to frame Romney/Ryan as liars and use the word lie repeatedly (this has been the left’s entire strategy since Wednesday night) but Ryan will counter with his encyclopedic commands of facts and numbers. It might look like Ben Stein debating Carlos Mencia. When I’ve watched the leftists screaming about Romney’s purported lies during the debate and heard that Biden is taking six days off to prepare, I can’t help but think half of MSNBC is helping Biden prepare scripted remarks to try to retroactively tear down Romney’s performance.
The VP debates are usually seen by 10-20 million less people than the initial presidential debate. Since we saw 70 million people at the first debate, the second debate may see as little as 45 million (generous) or nearly as much as 60 million people.
Now Palin-Biden was an exception to the rule, they had nearly 70 million people watching and it was MORE than the first presidential debate between McCain and Obama, which was at around 52 million according to Nielson.
Will we have that this year. I don’t know. But if Ryan does well, then we may see yet another bump or solidified lead for Romney going into the second presidential debate.
Biden is an over-rated BlowHard. Ryan is smart and always prepared. Ryan by 2 TDs.
The second presidential debate will take the form of a town meeting, in which citizens will ask questions of the candidates on foreign and domestic issues. Candidates each will have two minutes to respond, and an additional minute for the moderator to facilitate a discussion. ***The town meeting participants will be undecided voters selected by the Gallup Organization.***
Not anymore. $5 says CNN is doing its flat level best to stuff this question box, lol. Sample questions:
Candy Crowley, moderator: “Next question comes from Mandy in Berkely CA, and is for President Obama…”
Mandy: “Mr. Obama, where do you actually display your Nobel Peace Prize? Is it on an Oval Office shelf next to Bin Laden’s scalp?”
Candy Crowley, moderator: “Next question comes from Darrell in Ann Arbor, MI, and is for Governor Romney…”
Darrell: “Mr. Romney, it’s my belief you didn’t intend to murder that poor guy’s wife, but she’s just as dead. Have you offered financial relief to her family, and if so, was it a bribe to hush them up?”
Haha! I guess you’re almost as cynical as me.
I love the Matthews video. Four against one. That’s what a lefty calls a fair fight.
Sam Donaldson is still around? The only worth he had on the old This Week with David Brinkley show was to bring the average IQ of the group way, way down.
I’d love it if we could bring David Brinkley back to life just for a few minutes and have him watch Chris Matthews’ post-debate manic-Tourettes meltdown.
The ever calm and genial Brinkley would have some golden quip about that.
The fix is in. Romney is probably preparing for it, but the ‘fix’ should never have been allowed in the first place.
Romney seems great himself, but his campaign management stinks. This reminds me of Ronald Reagan’s campaign in 1980, when ultimately ‘letting Reagan be Reagan’ resulted in his landslide victory.
In the debate afterglow, watch this video and see if you can tell who the lone conservative is:
http://www.wimp.com/happiestpenguin/
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA 🙂
If you go to the original Youtube video and read the comments, you’ll find an explanation for the penguin’s behavior. Watch the link Henry Hawkins gave you first, for the fun of it — because it is. Then, if you want the (armchair?) animal behavioralist’s diagnosis, see the comments at:
http://www.youtube.com/user/smz200x#p/u/1/W_rH3WEJh6c
The diagnosed penguin still presents an accurate portrayal of conservatives, as we generally feel most of the time.
That’s AWFUL 🙁 I take back my laughter.
“If lovin’ [this] is wrong…I don wanna be right…”
I was enthused, but then I saw Barack Obama at the debate.
-Democrats
Participating in affirmative action cookbook, like Barack Obama at the debate.
-Liawatha Warren
Protecting Libyan ambassadors and border patrol agents, like Barack Obama at the debate.
-Obama Administration.
We have a roaring economy, like Barack Obama at the debate.
Joe Klein: “We know that [Obama] doesn’t like to confront people.”
And here I thought Biden had an owner-operated business. I didn’t realize that “Slow Joe” was actually a franchise opportunity.
Is it WRONG of you to Gloat, Dr.J..? No. Nada. Nyet. Nein. No F***ing Way..!!
Perfectly normal. As soon as I saw the Chris Matthews video I added it to my favorites list. It joins such classics as the Buckley/Vidal exchange at the 1968 Democratic Convention in 1968 and Goldwater’s 1964 acceptance speech.
The Libs are finding out that Obama is not the great intellect that they thought. After all, where are his grades? If you do a Westlaw search you will find no Obama Law Review articles. The only thing I found was his name in a Lawrence Tribe footnote thank him and 6 other students for their research.
Anne adds: A crowd of Obama supporters lined up to see the President speak in Madison, Wisc., on Thursday was less than enthusiastic about his debate performance earlier in the week.
Even so, up to 30K of them showed up to hear him BS.
Overconfidence is less dangerous than despair, but still dangerous. Ask Tom Dewey. Look at the Senate polls in MO, WI, and, arguably, MA.
Where is that number from? Because the last numbers they quoted out of the Wisconsin were 18,000 for an arena that could only hold nearly 5,000 people. He didn’t even fill that, yet they got 18,000 people.
You know where the media got those numbers? Tom Barret, twice failed gubernatorial candidate.
From the University of Wisconsin’s police chief. She gave the 30K as a lower bound; I gave it as an upper bound to be conservative.
“Same old stuff, different day…”. So how does that person waiting to hear President Obama speak think that President Obama will improve things if he has the same policies as before?
Your joy (and ours) should not be diminished any more than when the Berlin Wall came down.
How America allowed a Berlin Wall to begin being built around themselves with the election of ‘Barack Obama’ will be written about for centuries to come.
I’m concerned Romney handlers will turn Paul into a canned response depository.
You know what’s wierd?
When the debate preppers, and politico’s advise Ryan on the what and what not’s-
He is, actually, the smartest guy in the room
heh-
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Another notch in the ‘ol “things that never happened before” belt.
It has to be worrisome that “fearless leader” was so befuddled at the debate. Perhaps he should simply reread Marx and Gramsci to plan out his second term…….
Foreign leaders who meet privately with Obama must come away amazed.
Imagine what Netanyahu must think?
The only world leader to be impressed with Obama has been Hugo Chavez, whom Venezuelan’s had the misfortune to elect in the first place. That says worlds.
(If anyone actually believes Chavez won the election because of popular vote and not immense voter fraud — a la the Iranian ‘election — I have a bridge I want to sell you.)