Maybe Romney answer was “inelegant” only because Mother Jones didn’t disclose that part of tape was missing
See Update — Corn explanation for non-disclosure contradicted by saved screen shots.
When originally presented by David Corn of Mother Jones, there was no disclosure that part of Mitt Romney’s controversial answer about 47% of voters was missing from the tape.
Since only an edited version originally was presented, there was no way to know if something was missing. After all, it was edited, so of course something was missing by definition.
Romney has admitted that the answer on the video, which he didn’t remember except for the video, was “inelegant.” That’s why Romney asked for the full audio/video to be released.
Corn reacted vigorously to Romney’s suggestion that he only provided “snippets,” and then Corn released what purported to be the complete audio/video in two parts. The “complete” version was consistent with the original edited audio/video. Again, there was no disclosure by Corn that there might be something missing. (Corn added an “update” after my original story ran.”
To the contrary, Corn went out of his way to assert that there was no “filtering” and that the full audio/video had been released. As Corn explained to Howard Kurtz of The Daily Beast (emphasis mine):
Is the liberal media making too much of the Romney video? “It feeds into a narrative he’s been fighting all along, that he’s a 1 percenter, not one of us, doesn’t really understand it,” Corn says. And since these are the candidate’s own words, “there’s no filter here whatsoever, there’s no out-of-context argument to be made.”
But there was a filter. As reported in my prior post, Corn has admitted that 1-2 minutes of audio/video are missing. That missing audio/video includes part of Romney’s controversial answer.
Corn says that his source told him the recorder shut off on its own right in the middle of Romney’s answer, and then was not turned on until Romney already was into a different topic. We have no way of verifying that source’s story, but we do know that there were various edited pieces of the tape circulating prior to Corn’s involvement, so it is just as possible that Corn’s source or someone else handling the video prior to Corn edited out part of the answer.
It is impossible for us to know if Romney said something which changed or put the remarks in context. Romney doesn’t remember the event except for what exists on audio/video. Maybe in the fullness of the answer, the answer was less “inelegant” than it appears. Maybe Romney put some of the context on it that we have heard in his interviews the past two days.
What difference does it make?
Think how the initial 24 hours of controversy might have played out differently had Corn made the disclosure up front. That part of the answer was missing from the tape would have provided a valuable context both to readers/listeners, and to the Romney campaign. That never happened because there was no disclosure by Corn that part of the tape was missing.
I emailed Corn to get his response:
Is there a reason there was no initial disclosure that part of Romney’s answer was missing?
Don’t you think it would have been important at the initial release to let readers and listeners know that the audio/video was only part of the answer and that you don’t know what the full answer was?
I’d like a comment from you on this as I think the initial non-disclosure is important, and I want to be able to present your side as well.
I have not heard back. I will add Corn’s response when received.
The damage, of course, is done. No amount of correction now can change the initial media hysteria.
While there is a myth that the Shirley Sherrod tape was unfairly edited (it was NOT, it was perfectly fair), no such media narrative will develop around the incomplete Romney tape.
That’s just the way it works in the age of Obama.
Update: Here’ is Corn’s response to my questions about the non-disclosure (emphasis mine):
Romney had pivoted from expressing his sentiments about the “47 percent” to discussing how to appeal to independents when the tape ended, and it was the “47 percent” description that were the focus of this clip. All the clips we posted, of course, were edited out of the longer video. They all needed to have start and end points. When we posted the complete tape, we stated there was a gap of one to two minutes, or less, according to the source. That seemed to be the appropriate time to do so. I will note that Romney, who clearly has thought about how to respond to this clip, has not said in the statements he has made since its release, “But then I went on to say….”
The highlighted language in Corn’s response is inaccurate. When originally posted, there was no disclosure. The disclosure now is in the post between the two “complete” parts:
The disclosure came only after I emailed Corn about my post and the missing audio. The proof is that when I contacted Corn, I converted his post to pdf. and there was no disclosure between the two videos, as there is now.
So rather than making disclosure at the appropriate time, Corn only made the disclosure when I pointed out that he had failed to disclose the missing portions of the tape.
It also is unreasonable to expect Romney to correct an incomplete audio/video of a comment he did not remember making except for the existence of the audio/video. That’s why Romney asked for the complete answer to be released.
AND, see this blog post by a reader who says he’s not buying the source’s story about the recorder stopping then being restarted, Romney Tape Gap NOT Recording Error.











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Cameras that have video STOP at 30 minutes. see below.
30 minute limit on video capture could end if WTO group gets its way
May 18, 2012 at 22:45:32 GMT
CAMERA NEWSVIDEO
The restriction that limits video recording in digitial cameras to 30 minutes could be abolished if the World Trade Organization’s Information Technology Agreement (ITA) is expanded. Several countries, including the USA, have begun informal talks to extend the scope of the ITA to include products that are currently subject to tariffs and duty. At present, digital cameras’ video cuts off after 30 minutes to avoid them being classified as video cameras (which attract 5.4% duty because they are considered to be video recorders). If the video cameras are added to the ITA, this distinction would no longer matter. (via Nikkei)
Getting changes made at WTO can be a slow and highly politicized process, but a proposal to the ITA Committee to discuss the issue has been broadly welcomed.
Removing duty on video cameras would allow manufacturers to remove the 29 minute, 59 second limit currently applied to digital cameras. However other limitations, such as the 4Gb limit for single files imposed by the FAT 32 file system used by most cameras, or concerns about circuitry overheating will remain.
http://www.dpreview.com/news/2012/05/18/WTO-looking-at-moves-to-remove-30-minute-limit-from-digital-cameras
The idiot that took the video did not know this! HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
New blink test of before/after-gap camera position. Mighty fine replacement.
Try that again. New blink test.
Oh yeah. Ace pointed that out, too.
Oh. I see it now. This site is evidently a giant conservative mosquito trap. (No wonder the comment voting is so ridiculously one-sided.)
It should give everyone pause that it’s so difficult to find an equanimous internet locale for intelligent political discourse.
This ain’t it.
When you have said something intelligent, you will receive an intelligent response. Nobody here is holding their breath…
I’m not clever enough to know for certain if the camera moved or not, or whether the source edited the video. But the video we do see shows Mittens as a true conservative, as an excellent dinner speaker, and as someone who is engaging, comfortable and clear-thinking.
We may never know what is in the missing video. But I’m comfortably certain that the missing video doesn’t hurt Mitt in any way. More important, the video we DO see doesn’t hurt Mitt in any way.
If the Romney campaign has any sense they’ll make TV and radio ads from these video clips.
Mr. Corn and Mother Jones: thanks for bringing the video to the public’s attention. Well-played, gentlemen, well-played.
The smarmy, sleazy, Marxist David Corn is a midget, ya know, where truth-accuracy & the American Way are concerned. He was, for years, on the politburo of The Nation. ‘Nuff said. Never forget when Christopher Hitchens resigned after 9-11-01 saying that he could no longer be associated with a bunch(he always termed them ‘The Comrades’)who believed George Bush to be more of an enemy than Osama bin-Laden.
it’s more than 2 min more like 5 1/2 minutes according 2 the time stamp.
MotherJones did one better than Nixon
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The Progressives are still making the argument that “America isn’t bankrupt as long as she can sell T-bills.” Well, I think we can now declare that “America is an eyelash away from bankruptcy.”
From the Mother Jones tape:
Romney: Yeah, it’s interesting…the former head of Goldman Sachs, John Whitehead, was also the former head of the New York Federal Reserve. And I met with him, and he said as soon as the Fed stops buying all the debt that we’re issuing—which they’ve been doing, the Fed’s buying like three-quarters of the debt that America issues. He said, once that’s over, he said we’re going to have a failed Treasury auction, interest rates are going to have to go up. We’re living in this borrowed fantasy world, where the government keeps on borrowing money. You know, we borrow this extra trillion a year, we wonder who’s loaning us the trillion? The Chinese aren’t loaning us anymore. The Russians aren’t loaning it to us anymore. So who’s giving us the trillion? And the answer is we’re just making it up. The Federal Reserve is just taking it and saying, “Here, we’re giving it.’ It’s just made up money, and this does not augur well for our economic future.
The Fed is buying 3/4 of the US federal budget deficit at the Treasury T-bill auctions.
Frankly, except for the heretics over at zerohedge.com, there has been virtually nothing in the press about this, except by the standard market “doomsayers.”
I began to believe it when I read that China had reduced it T-bill holdings, and nothing seemed to happen. The newly issued T-bills have to be going somewhere, but who wants to buy even a 6 month note with a yield near 0% ?
Two minutes on the tape lost? Why are you people believing this? This is a marxist claiming this. This is what they do. I don’t believe a word any of them say. The lost time is probably a whole lot more. They edited Palin’s interview on Couric’s show until she looked dumb and I have talked to people telling them this and they still think she’s stupid. Same on Gibson’s show. This is the way they report stuff. They are the fifth column sent out by the communists to sway voters.
I don’t recall Romney ever disputing anything on the tape. If it had been edited in some way to present something he didn’t believe, I’m sure he’d be making more of a fuss instead of offering excuses and apologies. He did actually say those things.
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So, clearly he was not saying anyone who does not pay federal taxes lacks personal responsibility. He’s saying those who lack personal responsibility ALSO DO NOT PAY FEDERAL TAXES and thus don’t care about tax reform at all. They can’t pay less then zero (most of them wouldn’t come close to getting a federal tax credit payment for low income work).
But, Romney is doing horribly; he has to explain why Bush II did not cause the 2008 crisis and why he’s generally different from Bush II, who was a great president but had a bad last year, but like Reagan.
[I’ll note as Bush II supporter, if the ’08 crisis which was not his fault at all had hit one year later, as it easily might have, McCain would have won in a landslide, no?]
legal insurrection did america a great service,again pointing out what the propagada arm of o’bama’s campaign declares always,this breaking news is bad for romney,then gets proven that their breaking news is edited,released by lairs,and has legal problems.
corn did the romney campaign a great service,for us conservatives,and all working americans,that want this topic front and center in the news as much as possible.
i’m proud of romney not commenting on something he had no full recalection of, (any democrat would have lied first)to me this is the sort of person we need in the white-house.
wikapedia will be busy next year when corn’s and a thousand others get this illegal,unethical stunt added to his bio.
Corn has always been lying leftist scum. He was never anything approaching a “reporter” or even “journalist,” just a hack totalitarian propaganda tool.
After reading anything by David Corn, be sure to wash your brain thoroughly with a strong disinfectant.
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So basically this so called “inelegant romney gaffe” might be a total leftist lie, typical.