Chicago Chick-fil-A Kiss-In protesters “chalk” homeless street preacher
I attended Friday night’s “Kiss-in” protest outside the only Chick-fil-A location in Chicago. The small group of between twenty to thirty protesters gathered outside the restaurant around 7pm. A few same-sex couples took the opportunity to kiss in public, as the protest organizers encouraged attendees to do on their facebook page.
I asked many of the protesters whether they agreed with Alderman Moreno’s actions; the reactions were mixed. Some agreed — one woman told me she took a “European view” of our Constitutional Rights — while others felt he was in the wrong despite agreeing with him in a general sense.
While there, a group formed around an elderly African-American homeless man, who was reading his bible while seated along a fence rail off to the side of the protest. Some in the group confronted the man, who was reading the bible aloud, and engaged him in theological debates. A few others took the opportunity to mock the man, which I captured on video:
Nearing the end of the protest, someone from the group wrote on the sidewalk in front of the homeless man, “He’s Really Gay Deep Down,” with an arrow pointed to where he was seated.
Update 8-5-2012 8:40 p.m. – Occupy Chicago activist claims to be person taunting homeless man at Chick-fil-A protest
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So we see, once again, a left-wing activist group perceives the Bible as a manual for hatred. Unfortunately, the Christian community has done little to dissuade this notion.
There are some metaphysical arguments one might make for ignoring the physical for the spiritual, including some Biblical arguments, but socially the fact is Christians are a socially persecuted group in this country and there hasn’t been (lately anyway) vigorous apologia for Christianity (just preaching, which is fine for worshippers). So here we see where a particularly militant sector collectively decided that they were strong enough to commit harassment against a citizen in public and on camera.
And what is their defense? They tell us that gays have been persecuted for centuries, markedly by Christians they say. And because of this long-suffering victim status they have taken upon themselves a “right” to social revenge. How often have we seen this pattern at work?
And I believe that this is the basis for the left’s definition of democracy. I suspect this borrows from Marx’s “dictatorship of the bourgeoisie.” I believe the left believes that democracy is simply one group of people gaining power over another group of people, thus social revenge is permissible. Unfortunately this notion is wholly inconsistent with our Founders intent, which explains other problems.
Social censure is powerful, and I don’t believe anyone employs it well.
I can’t believe I wrote “dictatorship of the bourgeoisie.” I meant “dictatorship of the proletariat.”
Yup. I’m an idiot.
> Unfortunately, the Christian community has done little to dissuade this notion.
Yeah, if only Christians had ended slavery, established hospitals, created soup-kitchens, created the rules of war, funded orphanages, etc., we’d know that they weren’t full of hate…but given that they’ve never done a single one of these things, I agree with you.
Fair points.
What I mean is the contemporary Christian community spends its time in one of two ways: 1) playing the social justice game (“liberation” churches), or 2) preaching to the choir (“traditional” churches).
Why are your valid points not heard in the pulpit? Yes, the Word should be heard in the pulpit, but the daily, relentless, harassment of Christian organizations threatens Christian liberty. At what point does it become too late? At what point does the Word become legally-recognized hate speech? Is this the time to “turn the other cheek” and “render unto Caesar,” or is it time to defend the faith?
We can sit here and harrumph about how right we are, but we’re just preaching to the choir.
One thing that is lost on proponents of “gay” “marriage” (it is neither) is the fact that so many people chose to demonstrate their stance on this issue with actions, not words. A rational observer would take that as a rather ominous clue. If this is forced down the throats of these people, there will be a period of forced and seeming acceptance similar to that of any other tyranny. But when the preference cascade begins to shift, these people will demonstrate their dissatisfaction with that forced acceptance, not in speeches, but with actions. Big time.
“one woman told me she took a ‘European view’ of our Constitutional Rights”
Did she say enough to indicate whether she leaned fascist or communist?
Two sides of the same coin.
Indeed. And counterfeit, to boot.
The preacher was equating Gay people to pigs and Satan. He was being loud and rude while using his Bible to interupt the event with the intent of shaming peoples life styles. He has his right to free speech, just as I had every right to call him out on his bullshit. Nowhere in the Constitution does it say that ass hat Christian’s can’t be called out for being dick heads by other dick heads.
Besides the video is biased and edits out the shit he was saying to make him look like a victim. This “preacher” was nothing but a bigot. I asked and he agreed that Deuteronomy 22:24, which states raped women who do not scream loud enough should be stone, should be followed. He also said “lazy sons” should be stoned to death as well.
Fuck that guy and fuck any of you who agree with him.
“The preacher was equating Gay people to pigs and Satan.”
This bothers people to be called stuff like that?
Wait until they find out about the internet.
you are tough, sister.
The unedited video should be posted. Ultimately, the man has the right to speak whatever his views are, even if they are offensive to us. It is the same right that protects us when we protest, as our views can be seen as offensive to certain people.
Ideally, we would be able to confront each other about our respective views respectfully, and not with insults and mockery as was done in the video.
I’m sorry, you must have stumbled on this blog in error. We don’t talk like that here. Take your potty mouth elsewhere.
Proof or it didn’t happen. Proof 1) that what you assert did happen, and 2) that you were there.
Troll.
Well, we only have your version of what this homeless man said. This is not cutting edge theology, it is a homeless guy being harassed by a gang.
I tried to study ancient Biblical texts decades ago, and don’t believe the Bible is “God-breathed”, but there is a lot of good stuff in there, if you understand the context.
You mis-characterize that verse … it says “because she was in the city and did not scream”, has nothing to do with “loud enough”. She did not resist, is the point, it would seem.
But the bigger context, it was the people that demanded God give them a law. God’s law was love God and love your neighbor as yourself. So when they demanded a law, he gave them a very difficult one.
Having left my Aramaic or Greek studies behind decades ago, I would still argue that God’s point was … if you can’t think for yourself on how to love, I will give a law that will make all understand “there is none perfect, no not one”. Theologically, understanding human frailty paved the way for the hope of a coming perfect one, that would redeem man from his imperfections.
But this probably misguided homeless man was met with derision and hate and harassment. My guess is, if that homeless man had preached in favor of more open gay sex, the “support Chick-fil-A free speech” crowd would have given him a sandwich, not screamed in his face.
I guess I should clarify … “in the city”. If the woman was in the country, there was perhaps no recourse. In those times, people in cities were not in well insulated homes with MTV blaring (does anyone still watch MTV?). If there was a rapist and she screamed, 20 men would come running to protect their neighbor, whom they had shared much of their life with. There was no 911 … it was not NYC where everyone might watch a crime, and no one would want to get involved. And the men would not fear trial lawyers as they meted out the local version of justice.
I doubt this Spencer guy is the jerk in the video, but the verse deserves a response. It seems it is not the gayness that is the issue in societies, it is the radical notion that all social norms need to be broken down … burn it all and start over … mentality that seems to accompany the more radical side of the “gay rights” movement. They have to get in the face of Chick-fil-A, instead of appreciating the rights they already have here, as opposed to most parts of the world. Why do they need to disrupt the free commerce of Chic-fil-A?
This thought (not deep or theological) made me laugh, so I thought I’d type it) …
The law was God’s version of the old line “you want something to cry about? I’ll give you something to cry about”
I just can’t get over the vast courage it took for you to shout at an elderly homeless man, especially when you were younger and outnumbered him about 8 to 1. It was so brave of you to speak Truth to Power that way, I got all choked up. Never have I been so proud not be a tolerant, loving, rights-respecting Liberal.
Bravo on your bravery, intimidating a frail older man (who actually didn’t seem that intimidated). I eagerly await the video of your courageous stand for gay rights in front of the nearest mosque. All hail Spencer, tower of courage!
“Nowhere in the Constitution does it say that ass hat Christian’s can’t be called out for being dick heads by other dick heads.”
Well, Spencer, at least you admit you’re a “dick head”. It’s the first step towards recovery. Perhaps, with a little help, you might progress enough to become a mature adult. Someday.
You’re a gutless scumbag. How much courage did it take for you to verbally assault an elderly homeless man with all your butt buddies backing you up? You have no excuse or justification. If that man would have got right back in your face you would have run crying like the cowardly scumbag you are.
[...] at 1:46 on August 5, 2012 by Jim Hoft Disgusting. A group of far left anti-Christian protesters harassed and “chalked” a homeless street preacher in Chicago this weekend. Chicago Values. [...]
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Looks like the racist Gay KK.
Someone used the term “Gaystapo” a few days ago.
you can just look/listen to those twits standing around berating that man that if any one of them were confronting someone that would take a physical stand against them, they are nothing. They pretend they are so brave and tough in front of someone who would not lift a hand to them. Circle jerk.
They demand normalization and offer intolerance in return.
Their behavior has no redeeming value to either society or humanity. It is an exhibition of pure self-interest. Despite a concern to preserve individual dignity, and distinguish between the individual and their behavior, their insistence to promote a confrontation will surely cause people to withdraw even offers of tolerance.
Meanwhile, the contemporary relationship is characterized as “friends with benefits,” a large minority elect to terminate voluntarily conceived human life at a rate of 1 million annually, and progressive involuntary exploitation is, once again, en vogue. The “progress” we have enjoyed is increasingly qualified as negative or regressive.
In light of these revelations, normalizing yet another dysfunctional behavior seems to be the least of our concerns.
Rage-blinded by the black guy’s Bible reading, they didn’t care that he was homeless nor think about why that might be. The two primary causes of homelessness are mental illness and addiction. I mean, who argues with homeless people?
They showed up expecting counterprotesters, found none, realized that not even gay people were showing up, looked around for someone to take the brunt of their anger. “Oh look! A homeless guy! Get him!”
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I have predicted (and eagerly await) the day that one or more of the Dem/Lib client groups goes all Clint Eastwood on the asses of one or more of some other Dem/Lib client group. One of those groups will almost certainly be gays.
Imagine 20-30 gay white suburbanites going off on some poor homeless street preacher down in the hood. The brothers would make damn sure those who made it home at all went through the ER first.
As I recall, gay activists blamed black Californians for the passage of Prop 8. The n-word was hurled all across activist blogs and outlets in all its myriad vile forms.
Cool. Grab some beers, I’ll get the chicken wings (from Chick-fil-A).
My tolerance for homosexuals is fading, and I’m starting to really actively dislike them.
Rest assured not every gay person thinks like these people we’re seeing.
We usually only see militant homosexual activists. But there are gay people across this country who prefer not to associate with these activists, and who like living private lives like anyone else. As such, we won’t usually hear from them.
The gay community is not monolithic, despite the left’s agitprop to the contrary.
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Notice that Spencer, if indeed the guy posting here is the guy in the video, kept looking at the camera and smiling as if the fact that his mug was being filmed was validation that he was somehow in the right for harassing a homeless man. I wonder how smug Spencer might have been if he was not being filmed. His behavior makes his argument no more appealing than Adam Smith, the man who berated a Chick-Fil-A worker and then posted it on You Tube. Really? Do you really think that this sort of bullying makes you appear serious and sound, or does it just make a mockery of the gay community? These are the same tactics that are ascribed to the Tea Party by leftists, but without this kind of evidence to support the claim. Project we much?
By the way, Spencer, your parents must be oh so proud of their son who finds it so easy to harass an elderly black homeless man while surrounded by a gang of angry, white gay men, all while mugging for the camera. I bet you even have a “Mean People Suck” bumper sticker on your Chevy Volt.
Double Entendre?
His chevy volt? As if that POS could get a job.
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And we know that everyone is in their own spiritual battle. Some are losing the battle in their minds and are being overcome by the demon of sexual perversion and immorality. Others are in a similar battle in their minds to confuse their understanding of what’s right and wrong by equating past persecution of a disenfranchised class with righteous indignation against sin – in effect to manipulate the mind to sympathize with sin by painting the sinner as a persecuted class. In doing so the mind loses the ability to see the sin because of a reluctance to equate a person as a sinner. When sin ceases being sin, by what measure does society judge evil. And if evil ceases being evil, the nature of man is to choose to accept it as good. When this happens, the total collapse of a society is inevitable. Sadly, I now see America in the beginning stages of this downward spiral.
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