To the Voting Booth!
Consider this Pep Talk IV.
Was it over when Harry Reid pushed Obamacare through at Christmas time in December 2009?
Not when voters took to the voting booth and elected Scott Brown.
Was it over when Nancy Pelosi and House Democrats were forced to accept the Senate version so that reconciliation could be used, as she marched to the Capitol with large gavel in hand?
Not when the nation rose up and threw the Democrats out of power in the House in 2010.
Is it over now that the Supreme Court has upheld the mandate on the basis of a taxing power which Democrats expressly disavowed while passing Obamacare?
Not unless we allow Barack Obama to be reelected and the Democrats to hold the Senate.
You know what you have to do.
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I’m not a lawyer and know nothing about the law, but to my simple mind isn’t this entire ruling wrong because the premise is wrong? It was never presented as a tax, and in fact Obama was very specific when he stated it was NOT a tax, so how could Roberts start with that premise? Sorry, but simple minds want to know.
I’d love to go to a voting booth, but my dear elected ‘representatives’ have abolished them here in King County, in favor of all-mail voting. Said County is home of the administrative vote-finders who counted and counted and decided that Chris Gregoire would be Governor.
In other words, in King County a vote to oust a leftist politician must be overwhelming, to overturn all the manufactured ‘ballots’ sent through the mail after all the ingenious schemes to mark them ‘correctly’ have been applied.
Contrary to most opinion, I think this was a GREAT decision for the Republicans in a political sense. Obama is tagged as passing a tax increase, and with the medicaid threat withdrawn from picture, a taxpayer may end up paying a tax for not buying a product that he can not afford to buy.
Meanwhile, Obama has to defend this crap and loses the possibility to stump across the country to save us from that horrible conservative court, while Republicans can stump to get rid of an unpopular program.
Squeeky Fromm
Girl Reporter
“Squeaky Fromme” was a follower of mass murderer Charles Manson, and tried to assassinate Gerald Ford.
A bad moniker.
Politically, I think you are right. But getting rid of Obamacare will be difficult. It is not likely the Republicans will get 60 senate seats, so efforts to repeal (next year) will be difficult. Republicans would have to frighten/intimidate a handful of Democrats to go along, not an easy task on so big an issue.
Implementation can be delayed via other legislative and executive actions, but this monstrosity will still be on the books. It can be delayed in a budget reconciliation bill (only 51 votes needed to pass the senate), but I don’t see how it can be repealed this way. Of course, the Dems have gotten away with ignoring the rules, so I guess the Repubs can too.
“they can’t make you buy broccoli, but they can tax you for not buying broccoli.”
That pretty much sums it up.
and only broccoli grown by approved growers.
You can’t self insure, or even buy catastrophic insurance.
The worst part to me is not the penalty/tax for not having health insurance, it is the control over the insurance I already have.
This was passed as bait and switch (not a tax, will lower rates, will reduce budget … opposite was true) … isn’t that illegal?
You mean a politician lied? Where is that in the Constitution?
We hire and fire. We need to do our job.
ha .. yes I agree our vote and campaigning is the answer.
“Bait and switch” was just a snide and trite remark. But running a deliberate fraud is unconstitutional, isn’t it? I think most have become too brainwashed to demand more. Tarring and feathering … followed with revolution, worked for awhile.
Well let’s avoid the tarring and feathering. Especially since we have napalm these days.
Maine reqs you to bring a shotgun to church.
so now the fed should req you to purchase a shotgun, rifle, and pistol for each household.
we’ll call it a tax.
hope the anti gun people like that
That’s the spirit!
So, to follow your reasoning (or, I should say theirs):
they can’t make me buy marijuana, but they can tax me for not buy it?
Have I got that right? Because, if I do, I’m thinking of using this as a defense, should I get caught . . .
“Justice Kennedy is the most powerful man in America. As the swing vote, he will be the one deciding the fate of Obamacare”
KENNEDY STRIKES ENTIRE LAW!
Not so fast-
Justice Roberts, caller of balls and strikes, awards team Obama a touchdown on a play that should have been whistled dead for illegal procedure.
When Roberts told us he was just the ump, he meant he was the referee.
When everyone thought they were playing baseball, they were really playing football.
When everyone was talking mandate, Roberts was talking taxes.
Go back in time. Didn’t Obama say if SCOTUS struck it down he was going to implement anyway? (He might not have, but I seem to recall him stating something to the effect.)
Come on people… pick yourselves up. We knew it wasn’t going to be easy. ObamaCare is still the same bloated, groaning, unfunded, jury-rigged, fetid piece of sh!t it was the day it was signed into law. Nothing has changed, except there is no longer SCOTUS help killing it, except as this ruling as weakened it some.
Imagine if it had been tossed out, completely, and all the Democrats’ “vulnerables” had been mobilized. No… the “won”. Let ‘em crawl up into their warm, rent-subsidized beds and sleep in on election day.
Just because it’s Constitutional, is it also sustainable, affordable, viable or the right thing to do.
“The Supreme Court isn’t last because it’s right, it’s right because it’s last.”
It SAYS it’s constitutional. I differ.
Amen. SCOTUS just returned this godawful horror to We The People.
Tweet by DNC executive director, Patrick Gaspard:
“It’s constitutional, Bitches.”
—I ain’t your bitch, Bitch.
Don’t Trickle On Me!
[...] We will be issuing that judgment on Nov. 6th of this year. SCOTUS has just lit a fire under every citizen activist I know. We will be at the polls in November, and that will be our judgement. [...]
This guy has it right. Its a tax. Run with that Romney
http://spectator.org/blog/2012/06/28/the-tax-is-the-issue-romney-an
As the good P’fessor stated, it’s now about Election 2012:
http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/election-just-became-about-obamacare_647928.html
Won’t the law now have to be re-written as a tax? Also, for those who received waivers, are they still valid? Do they get to escape the tax?
Yeah, the waivers are great, but without them, the killing effect on business would be obvious as McDonald’s would collapse.
Love McDonald’s, the public service they provide, no joke, by providing, um, public accomodations at almost every interstate exit. :^)))
Cantor: House will vote on repeal week of July 9
http://www.politico.com/blogs/on-congress/2012/06/cantor-house-will-vote-on-repeal-week-of-july-127555.html#.T-x09wW_-Jk.twitter
If you LIKE your DEATH PANEL, you can KEEP your DEATH PANEL — until Nov. 6th!
The Pelosi/Reid/Obama government have achieved liberal utopia.
They have finally managed to tax breathing.
Congratulations.
The can tax breathing, and penalize exhaling (irony, Mr. Clinton?).
Well, they’re taxing exhaling, too, via the EPA and carbon dioxide. Then, they’ll tax farting via the EPA and methane gas.
Ha! My point exactly.
The Act is unconstitutional–saying it is and passing it doesn’t change that fact.
IMHO, Obama just lost the election. He’s and the Democratic Party have now been tagged with a vastly unpopular bit of legislation, the highest tax increase in the Republic’s history, and the largest amount of federal spending and debt in the history of the Republic. November will be brutal not only for the Presidential election, but down ticket as well. If the Dems thought that 2010 was bad, November 2011 could well be epic.
And we have to work our asses off to ensure that outcome.
From a @zerohedge commentor: “The US Constitution was already dead, but this qualifies as necrophilia” Pretty damn accurate
Now that I’m sufficiently awake, there is one thing I want to know. Did they read the whole thing? And, did they read all the parts of other laws that were referred to in that monstrosity? I tried reading the entire bill once and couldn’t because so many parts of it referred to other documents that I didn’t have access to and didn’t know how to access in the first place. Just wondering…
I would characterize this decision as:
They read into it what they wanted to see in order to come to a decision that supported increasing federal power.
James Carville: “The Tea Party Is Over.”
James Carville is no Admiral Yamamoto, is he?
Sleep and giants and all, James.
The DNC Exec Director Gaspard tweeted “it’s constitutional. Bitches.”
I think he just cost his party a few votes there, huh? To the voting booths.
He also tweeted, “TAKE THAT MOTHER******S!”
Per Drudge, he later deleted it.
It’s one thing to awaken a sleeping giant. It’s quite another to then start poking him with a sharp stick.
Remember, in March 2010 the vile left was dancing in the streets. They stopped dancing in November 2010.
So true. They’ve been poking for 3+ years, and now they are actively yelling at us– after calling us all racists. Great stuff from the Dems. Wait for November.
“The fiercest serpent may be overcome by a swarm of ants.”
—Admiral Yamamoto
Okay, Ant People. Let’s get to work!
LukeHandCool (who is intent on making Tony Robbins seem like a downer)
Since the mandate has become a “Tax” doesnt that require Congressional action?
I believe it does. Force Harry Reid to vote against We The People.
“Force Harry Reid to vote against We The People?”
Doesn’t he always do that?
Check.
I was pleased with Romney’s comments.
Calm, clear, and measured.
Presidential.
Leave the ranting and raving to us!
What??? Who’s ranting??? Who’s raving???
Just becuase I took a 12(or, was it a fourteen)-guage to my car. Just because all the windows in my place are broken? Just because I’ll now have to buy a new bow,as well as arrows, new fishing rods, new TV, (thus far, I’ve spared the computer).
Who’s ranting and raving??? Why you seem to think there might be some people who are upset that the crazy. . .oops! There goes the printer . . .
LMAO!
Dittos!
You forgot to throw the kitchen sink out the window….
Can’t do that just yet! I put the ice and beer in the sink before I took out the refrig before I took out the car before. . .
Anyway, there’s still ice and beer left, although the sink is giving me nervous glances.
From Instapundit:
Obama said it wasn’t a tax. The Supreme Court says he lied.
Rush opens with it’s a tax; Obama lied to us.
Roll the tape.
Okay –so what, it doesn’t matter what Obama said. How does it change what Roberts ruled?
Maybe I’m thinking too hard, but what Roberts has been doing is subversive of the Obama agenda. Sure, Obama got what he wanted, but he also got screwed big time. Roberts has twice labeled Obama correctly: 1) open borders, anti-American sovereignty, illegal alien hugger; 2) big spending humongous taxing liar and dictator.
I haven’t followed Roberts’s judicial decisions to note if he’s left leaning but assumed that he is because of his holdings on AZ, Alvarez, and Obamacare. Still, I’m left wondering if he’s doing something else and his holdings are acts of desperation intended to force We the People to depend on ourselves to defend and reclaim our Republic, a la Palin.
Just finished reading this article http://lsolum.typepad.com/legaltheory/2012/06/the-decision-to-uphold-the-mandate-as-a-gestalt-shift-in-constitutional-law.html and it seems to support what I’m thinking about what Roberts is doing. The guy writes:
“There is an alternative gestalt concerning the New Deal Settlement. For many years, some legal scholars had advanced an alternative reading of the key cases uphold New Deal legislation. On this alternative reading, the New Deal decisions were seen as representing the high water mark of federal power. Although the New Deal represented a massive expansion of the role of the federal government, it actually left a huge amount of legislative power to the states. On the alternative gestalt, the power of the federal government is limited to the enumerated powers in Section Eight of Article One, plus the New Deal additions. These are huge, but not plenary and unlimited.
Today, it became clear that four of the Supreme Court’s nine justices reject the academic consensus. As Justice Kennedy states in his dissent joined by Scalia, Thomas, and Alito:
“In our view, the entire Act before us is invalid in its entirety.”
The alternative gestalt is no longer an outlier, a theory endorsed by a few eccentric professors and one odd justice of the Supreme Court. And because Justice Roberts believes that the mandate is not a valid exercise of the commerce clause (but is valid if interpreted as a tax), he has left open the possibility that there is a fifth justice who endorses the alternative gestalt.”
Sarah Palin tweeted much the same: “Obama lied to the American people. Again. He said it wasn’t a tax. Obama lies; freedom dies.
The Commies tweeted Palin in reply: http://twitchy.com/2012/06/28/left-attacks-sarah-palins-slut-daughters-and-retard-son-after-she-tweets-about-scotus-ruling/
To Justice Thomas: http://twitchy.com/2012/06/28/justice-thomas-dissents-left-hurls-vile-racial-slurs-house-nigga-uncle-tom/
Expect class rhetoric from Bolsheviks, not class acts.
Rallying cry provided.
For every action there is a reaction. And it will be constitutional, too, Beech.
LukeHandCool (who is a docile creature, but who, oddly, just loves a good fight against an arrogant opponent).
LOL
I hate sending politicians my money whether as taxes or campaign contributions. As an right-leaning independent the only things I like less than Republican politicians are Democratic Politicians. Despite that, this decision just prompted me to give Romney’s campaign as much as I could afford, which is more than I’ve ever given to a politician or clarity. Unfortunately or fortunately, his website is too busy to take my money right now.
Don’t forget the Congress that writes the laws!
As just heard on 850 KOA here in Denver: ObamaCare is a tax, therefore we can repeal the ENTIRE law through Budget reconciliation. We must win the senate by one, just one, and a Romney Presidency CAN repeal it all. Reid and Pelosi cannot do anything to block passage.
I was pissed for the allotted 20 minutes, but now it’s time to get to work. Gather the troops, and let’s get this done.
We are assuming Romney will sign the repeal. But… one thing at a time…
Let’s get the ball rolling.
I’m looking at the bright side here for now the affirmation of O’bammyCare has created a real campaign issue.
Now, a choice between an ever increasing government that creeps into your everyday life along with huge deficits and high taxes OR the repeal of O’bammyCare, limited government and lower taxes.
We have a choice of keeping the community organizer or electing a well qualified executive/manager with real world experience.
For me, the choice is a no-brainer.
For a dumbed down public, I’m not so sure…
Marco Rubio reminds that the IRS will come after folks like me who like to pay cash for healthcare. Really, it is much cheaper to pay cash cuz you pay 50% less than do those folks who pay via health insurance, plus you don’t get stuck in a monthly plan paying for something you don’t use a lot.
Well, the IRS will just have to come after me cuz I’m not buying health insurance besides a policy plan.
You rebel, you!
(Bravo)
Whoops. This time with the link.
“The fiercest serpent may be overcome by a swarm of ants.”
—Admiral Yamamoto
Okay, Ant People. Let’s get to work!
LukeHandCool (who is intent on making Tony Robbins seem like a downer)
Visions of the uninsured holing up in cities and the boondocks chased by revenuers.
Revenuers’ Song
“Oh, the Revenuers are here, we will chase you all the year;
We are out to get the Hatfields and McCoys.
We will hide behind each tree so that we can always see
When a Hatfield takes a pot shot at a ‘Coy!
We’ll be runnin’ and a shootin’ and our whistles will be tootin’
When the feudin’ gets a little bit too hot!
If you’re plannin’ on a livin’
Then this warnin’ I’m a givin’
If it’s breaking laws you’re doin’ – you better not!”
Sung to the tune of Hillbilly
“Liberty or Death!” takes on a whole new meaning now.
Obama won the day, but this means he has lost a “foil” for the election.
Instead of pivoting to bashing Republicans over the loss of ObamaCare, he is essentially where is was yesterday.
Yes, no change. The economy still sucks. People are still out of work. The world is still falling apart. And ObamaCare is still a nightmare.
Roberts assured his fucking legacy all right.
Because that is so much more important than striking the death blow to this country.
First I will weep for my country. Then I am going to stand up and fight like I have never fought before! Even though he was way down my list of candidates, I am going to fight for Romney’s election in Nov. Obama MUST GO!
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Works for me: http://blog.heritage.org/2012/06/28/senate-gop-will-use-reconciliation-in-attempt-to-repeal-obamacare/
The Princess Bride had The Dread Pirate Roberts but he is no match for The Traitor John Roberts who is sitting on the Supreme Court.
Really it doesn’t matter if we repeal this thing because the damage has been done. The government has all of these powers whether it chooses to use them or not and the day will come when the wrong people are in office and they will be used. The Supreme Court has expanded the Commerce Clause to the point that there are few limits and what it does not allow can now be attained under its taxing authority.
Quite literally the ONLY right you have left is the right to bitch about it under the 1st Amendment. But since the government will be controlling your access to healthcare I would not bitch too loudly.