Mr. Vice President.
Biden has been playing the rape card, arguing that if the federal government does not subsidize police union contracts which states and local governments cannot afford, more women will get raped.
This is part of a theme, with Biden earlier this month claiming that rapes were up in Flint, Michigan because of a decrease in police.
But as Andrew Stiles at NRO documents, Biden’s numbers were not even close to the truth, as rapes actually have declined:
Biden’s remarks echoed comments he made earlier this month in Flint, Mich., where he suggested that violent crimes could continue to increase if Congress did not pass the president’s proposal. “In 2008, when Flint had 265 sworn officers on their police force, there were 35 murders and 91 rapes in this city,” he said. “In 2010, when Flint had only 144 police officers, the [number of murders] climbed to 65 and rapes — just to pick two categories — climbed to 229. In 2011, you now only have 125 shields. God only knows what the numbers will be this year for Flint if we don’t rectify it.”
Putting aside the crude, inflammatory nature of his rhetoric, it turns out that Biden’s numbers are incorrect. According to statistics compiled by the FBI, the figures cited by the vice president are slightly off, but not egregiously so, when it comes to the size of the police force and the murder rate in Flint. According to the FBI data, the city employed 201 police officers in 2008 and 132 officers in 2010. There were 32 reported murders in 2008, which rose to 53 in 2010. With respect to the rape figures, however, Biden is way off. FBI data show that the incidence of reported forcible rapes actually dropped, with 103 rapes reported in 2008, but just 92 in 2010. Hardly the 150 percent increase Biden cited.
Update 10-21-2011: The Washington Post (h/t John Hayward) fact checker gives Biden Four Pinnochios (“A Whopper”) for the falsehood.
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LOL …liberals lie …* SHRUG *
Nor do they have any shame. *SHRUG*
billy jeff clinton
What do you call someone who lies about rape for political gain?
A Tawana Brawley wannabee.
Duke professors?
Who you gonna believe, the Vice President or your lyin’ statistics?
Biden is simply operating out of the democrat playbook where the typical MO is using fear as a weapon.
The politics of fear can produce great results when the opposition, (in this case the GOP), lies prone and helpless while the damage is done. The democrats are experts with the use of fear, ballot box stuffing and outright lies to achieve their goals.
So… If y’all don’t want another for years of the anointed one running things, Don’t let it happen.
I don’t think he lied, I think the Flint PD purposely fed him bad stats (conflating county w/ city for the 2010 numbers). What it shows – and what is more damning, IMO – is the lack of critical thinking by Biden and his staff. When somebody feeds you numbers that fit perfectly into your talking point, it is even *more* important to verify them.
It’s Joe’s lack of intellect that has always bothered me. I have actually met & spoken to him on 2 occasions – he is DIM. For all the time the media spent going after Palin in 2008, if they had bothered to do their jobs they would have found that the guy who had to cheat just to finish in the bottom of his class at a 4th rate law school was one of the least intelligent VP candidates in modern history.
Ah, you reveal the unspoken reality of Democrats – PROJECTION! What they accuse the Conservative of (or Republicans in general) is ALWAYS true of the Democrats!
Sarah Palin. The TEA Party. Perfect examples of leftist Alinsky tactics. In other words, projection!
Lord thats weak ….you want projection …here ya go ….the liberals accuse Republicans of racism on a daily basis but yet it was the democrats who left the union and fought a war to keep the right to own black men women and children. Jim Crow ….democrat….the black codes ….democrat ….the KKK ….democrat…when a black man was lynched odds are it was a democrat holding the rope. george wallace ….democrat ….bull conner ….democrat …the Republican supported the civil right act at a far higher % that democrats did. And yet they insist we are racist …odd
here’s another good example of democrat projection …I am sure that all have heard some liberal make the claim that Republicans are war mongers..well O.K. the next time one does point these little truths out to them
The civil war was began by democrats in the south angry at the election of the very first Republican president whom the democrats were afraid Lincoln who take away or limit their rights to property namely black men woman and children. The left the union ( FLEEBAGGERS ) AND BEGAN THE CIVIL WAR WHEN THEY FIRED ON A UNION FORT
WW I … a democrat president
WWII ….. a democrat president
Korea …. a democrat president
Vietnam … first troops sent under truman and all in under kennedy and johnston
The only time nuclear weapons have ever been used against human beings was by a democrat president ….twice and civilians to boot.
I figure about 1.4 million dead American servicemen and woman and tens of millions of civilian deaths under or because of democrat wars …now how many dead Americans because of Republican war mongers
Exactly where did the South flee to? I thought they stayed right where they’d always been.
Well in this case it wasn’t to Illinois which seem to be the destination of choice of todays fleebaggers
and they did flee the union …did they not
a lot of folks missed this with everything that was going on in WI but democrats in Ind also fled their state for much the same reasons and at the same time as in WI…here’s a song the Republicans wrote …its funny
http://www.sodahead.com/united-states/i-74—ind-republicans-spoof-on-fleebagging-democrats-in-satire-song/question-1578927/
I would say delusional, but I don’t know if he really believes any of the lies he spews, as I believe San Fran Nan and Dirty Harry do.
Someone who lies so well, so easily – that would be the definition of today’s Democrat.
Not the party of the Great Depression or your grandparents anymore.
As if any average democrat is strong on crime. This is another false choice by democrats who always claim that the government’s budget is so free of wasteful options to cut, that they must first cut police, firefighters, teachers, sanitation workers, rather than all the administrator bloat that drives up budget numbers, and rather than cutting out say, the Administrator of Administrators, or czars, etc.
Democrats are such transparently dishonest people, one wonders how anyone could vote for them.
I didn’t know the police prevented rapes. Silly me, I thought they investigated rapes that had already occurred. I’m not too enthusiastic about mos of the police at the present time. After seeing them in action in Wisconsin I think their being unionized is a very bad thing for US citizens. Who comes first with them? Union bosses or citzens? Do they only go after the criminals th union boses tell them to? I’m sure some of them are doing their duty but the others are giving thewhole police force a bad name.
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Unwilling to give accurate statistics, Phony as a 4 dollar bill, extremely passive-aggressive, and conforms to the Obama White House tradition of lying and cheating. And, sadly, a majority of Americans bend over and accept this deception. This really, really big deception. Can anyone wake up Americans?
It’s not Joe’s fault. They told him to play the “race” card, but his alcohol soaked brain heard “rape”.
WHAT DO YOU CALL SOMEONE WHO LIES ABOUT RAPE FOR POLITICAL GAIN? SIMPLE: A RAPIST!
Isn’t it well known he is brain damaged? Why the hell is he vice president? Why is he in government at all?
Biden got his statistics from Bill Clinton who personally can vouch for their authenticity.