A 13th Oregon County has Voted to Join the “Greater Idaho” Secession Movement
Meanwhile, super-progressive Portland just voted out its pro-crime District Attorney!
The last time I reported on the “Greater Idaho” movement, 12 counties in Oregon had voted to secede from the deep blue state to join their red neighbor, Idaho.
That was last summer.
Now, as the summer of 2024 begins, lucky 13 has just agreed to secede!
13th conservative Oregon county approves measure to secede and join ‘Greater Idaho’ https://t.co/GBV2322Mnb pic.twitter.com/vliByR4Suh
— New York Post (@nypost) May 23, 2024
Another right-leaning county in eastern Oregon has voted to secede from the Democrat-run state and join neighboring Idaho, according to reports.
Crook County residents passed the measure by a 53% majority Tuesday, making it the 13th county in the state to sign onto the movement known as “Greater Idaho,” NewsNation reported.
“The voters of eastern Oregon have spoken loudly and clearly about their desire to see border talks move forward,” said the Greater Idaho movement’s executive director Matt McCaw.
“With this latest result in Crook County, there’s no excuse left for the Legislature and Governor to continue to ignore the people’s wishes.”
The vote is not legislatively binding, and passage of the measure simply means residents are in favor of informing Oregon and federal representatives that they support negotiations to join Idaho.
The voters of eastern Oregon have spoken loudly and clearly about their desire to see border talks move forward,’ Greater Idaho Executive Director Matt McCaw said.
‘With this latest result in Crook County, there’s no excuse left for the Legislature and Governor to continue to ignore the people’s wishes.
We call on the Governor, Speaker of the House, and Senate President to sit down with us and discuss next steps towards changing governance for eastern Oregonians, as well as for the legislature to begin holding hearings on what a potential border change will look like.’
‘For the last three years we’ve been going directly to voters and asking them what they want for their state government,’ President Mike McCarter added.
‘What they’re telling us through these votes is that they want their leaders to move the border.
As a Californian, I would like to offer this modest proposal:
The Greater Idaho project is cool and all but have you heard of Giga Idaho? pic.twitter.com/UDkOMRnkzM
— Dale Stark (@DaleStarkA10) May 22, 2024
There are plenty of reasons the good people of these 13 counties want to disassociate themselves with the “utopia” of the progressive portions . . . especially Portand. Some recent stories featuring that urban hellscape include:
But times may be changing in Oregon.
Uber-progressive Portland, Ore., just kicked its soft-on-crime, cop-hating district attorney to the curb: Manhattan, take note.
On Wednesday, Multnomah County DA Mike Schmidt lost to one of his own deputies, Nathan Vasquez — who ran entirely on a return to sanity.
Schmidt, one of the many woke prosecutors boosted into office by George Soros and affiliated soft-on-crime groups, took over in August 2020 at the height of the George Floyd protests and immediately announced the vast majority of riot-related offenses wouldn’t get prosecuted.
So, even if secession plans stall, there may be some hope for the good citizens of those 13 Oregon counties.
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Run the math on the LA mansion tax.
If half of those sellers are leaving California- that is an economic apocalypse in the making.
Assume 10% of those in the above math leaving are business owners, then Sacramento has no idea of the math they are about to get gobsmacked with.
This more than explains the economics of the construction boom that is a tsunami in red states.
I think it is “safe math” to assume half of them are leaving. The tax generated 200M first year at ~5%. I ran it assuming the number was 5M per residence and 350k in annual income.
You could adjust the income math up or down if you think I’m too stingy or bold on income- but if you have a house worth 5-10M, I think that is also a good number.
In income tax, sales tax, discretionary spending impact on the economy- this exodus of productive people and their wealth is an economic atom bomb.
As a proud resident of Crook County, Oregon, I heartily endorse the idea of Giga Idaho. Except that we’d have to eliminate Washoe County, Nevada, in addition to Clark County. Its population would take the place of Multnomah Co. (Portland) in Oregon.
But why stop there? Split Giga in two. Get two more senators, more electoral votes.
This will never happen. It is an opium pipe filled dream. Wake up and deal with the real world.
JR, I know it will never happen. I was having a little aspirational fun. I don’t need to wake up.
Please lighten up. Try to be nice. It goes a long way.
Junior is a pissed off old septuagenarian on the heels of the favorite puppet, FJB.
Legal Insurrection’s resident “Get of my lawn!”
Never has a nice thing to say, never adds value to any conversation.
This sort of post is the only way he can pleasure himself while living in his mother’s basement.
The reality? You mean watching as a demented corrupt fool destroys our country with the help of the Dem party. I think we all need to consider secession as pour best leader is now in court on a trumped up charge with a corrupt judge and a fixed jury. Only real question is if secession will be violent or not.
Giga Idaho… a surprisingly informed map, other than the fact that southern NM is nowhere near that red.
Of course it’s all a fantasy, because why would the Oregon legislature ever consent to letting its slaves go free? What’s in it for them?
Because if the counties involved vote for secession the Oregon legislature per se doesn’t have a dog in the fight.
Just like when Kentucky and West Virginia seceded from Virginia, Maine seceded from Massachusetts, and arguably Vermont seceded from New York. They voted, and they left.
That is not true at all. The counties have no say in the matter; the Oregon legislature is the only one that has any say.
West Virginia was able to secede from Virginia only by the consent of the legitimate Virginia legislature, meeting in Alexandria.
Kentucky also was only able to secede because the Virginia legislature consented. Likewise Maine could not secede until the MA legislature was persuaded to consent. VT of course was an independent country for a while, but it couldn’t join the union until the NY legislature consented.
“…the Oregon legislature is the only one that has any say.”
Correction: the Oregon legislature, the Idaho legislature, and the U.S. Congress all have a say.
Other than that, I agree with milhouse on this point: why would Oregon agree to this?
The loss of tax revenue alone would torpedo any desire to do it.
Well, yes, of course. I just assumed the Idaho legislature wouldn’t be a problem, and if Oregon were fine with it too then Congress would likely OK it, so the real obstacle is Oregon.
So what was in it for VA, NY and MA?
It took extreme pressure to get MA to let go of Maine. NY never really had VT anyway, it was an independent country, but it still took pressure to get it to renounce its claim. And the VA legislature that approved WV’s secession was the legitimate loyalist legislature in Alexandria, that was 100% controlled by the Republicans, not the rebel one in Richmond. After the war VA sued to get WV back, and the Supreme Court said nothing doing; the loyalist legislature was the legitimate one and you have to live with its decisions.
Perhaps at the point the pesky residents become too big a nuisance to ignore by becoming much more actively creative in opposing the dictates of their current political masters? Perhaps collecting state sales taxes, fuel taxes, property taxes, ‘sin taxes’ and sending them to an escrow account instead of the State? That would certainly get the attention of those in the State capital. If these residents won’t do something more dramatic than cosplay votes they are very likely to continue to be ignored as you correctly point out.
The state would just seize the “escrow account” and arrest those not paying the taxes directly to the state as they are legally required to. The constitution is entirely on their side, so the courts would be too.
And would lose out on the tax revenue anyway because now those former tax payers are in prison and an expense.
That part of the country is not populated with obedient people like found in New York, Boston, or Hartford. They may ultimately lose, but these people will fight back hard.
Sure they would, but in doing so it would also be an overt action by the State …. which means the folks in these Counties have forced the State to take them more seriously. Then there’s the uncertain future of what follows that scenario; the folks in these Counties tried a very tame, comparatively, option and in this scenario got stomped on. So the question is what do these Counties do after that to pursue their goal?
Sometimes it isn’t about losing a particular engagement but instead demonstrating the killings not to fold but rather persevere until the opposition gets tired of the struggle and they give up. Lots of movements have successfully used this sort of CoA.
Ha…should read ‘demonstrate the willingness’ not ‘killings’ …. those would only arise way down the road… though the Govt agencies might get an early start as they seek to enforce their authority.
I agree. I think it’s a great idea for people to be represented by others that actually listen to them but the legislature doesn’t care and will never go for it.
Ah yes, “land of the free”. lol.
Here’s a clue. The People eventually get what they want.
1. Ballot Box
2. Soap Box
3. Ammo Box
Don’t ever underestimate the resolve of an American Citizen when told they can’t do something they find important.
There will come a time when there are enough people who have had enough, that they WILL be heard.
I hope that those who choose to ignore the will of the People wise up.
You mention the term slaves tongue in cheek. But those who begin to feel the weight of their chains will not be put off.
The Legislature be damned.
They need a Fort Sumpter moment….. put a match to the Oregon Country Fair…..
Of course, we all recognize the threat to “Our Democracy” which is created by these 13 counties voting in this irresponsible fashion. There are too many low-information voters there, probably feeding on misinformation/disinformation on X and Fox News. /sarc
What is involved in creating a new state? Does the federal government get a say in that? Is it simply a vote by the state legislature that can bring about a new state?
Only Congress can create a new state, or change state boundaries, but it needs the consent of the legislatures of all states affected. So in this case, to move these counties from Oregon to Idaho would require the consent of the Oregon and Idaho legislatures, followed by a vote in Congress to actually do it.
Yep. Until the State Legislatures give ascent to the redrawn map and Congress accepts it then it simply won’t happen. Not sure why folks choose to down vote facts….maybe they get stuck in their emotions to elevate their ‘feels over reals’ as the kids say.
The four state corners region centered on the Steens mountains is incredibly beautiful, rugged and remote. It’s literally a place where the deer and the antelope and range cattle play. And no barbed wire fences. Tribals dot the region along with a few yeoman ranchers. The view of the Milky Way unlimited by light pollution.
If you venture there, do so in a car caravan, be alert, and highly prepared.
As a resident also of Frenchglen, I agree wholeheartedly. However, a small nit-pick: It’s Steens Mountain, not “the Steens mountains.”
and some money. My understanding is that the Navajo’s now charge admission.
It seems the only option is a long shot after a red wave election to have enough states to pass a constitution amendment.
Secession sentiment has also picked up steam in Illinois. Trump won 90% of the state’s counties in 2020 but still lost by 17 points no thanks to Chicagoland, in particular. Without Dem-run Chicago, East St. Louis, etc.,, the Prairie State would be red as a newborn’s rear end.
Again, without the Illinois legislature’s consent it can’t happen, so what’s in it for them?
While Milhouse will incessantly stump for the left, look up the City of St George, LA, which just successfully seceded from Baton Rouge over the protestations of the leftist powers that be.
If they get desperate enough they could try the historical approach. Form a new government, elect officials, collect their own taxes. Of course, that would only work if most law enforcement officers and local officials join with them. It would also require that most National Guard troops n their communities join with the new government. Obviously, any chance of success would require a national government that is not controlled by the Democrats.
History is full of examples where people broke free of tyrannical governments. It would not be easy, but I suspect that most successful revolts were probably more difficult and quite frankly entailed a much greater risk of loss of life and freedom than the greater Idaho movement would face.
I seriously doubt whether the remaining portion of Oregon would be willing or able to use brute force to keep the serfs under their control.
Leftists in portland always trying to force their progressive values on the rest of the counties in the state.
smh
This was going on when I lived in Eastern Washington and Eastern Oregon in 1978 – 1980. Plus a movement to kick out the Federal Bureau of Land Management due to their dictatorial rule of much of the land. I wish them luck but there is a lot of money in the East and the socialists/communists in the West won’t peacefully agree to let them go.
Nor will the feds. The USA owns that land, and the rest of the USA sees no reason to give it away for free to the people who happen to live locally.
Please put San Diego County on the Giga Idaho map. We’ve done a pretty good job of fending off liberal politicians, progressive protests, and general tomfoolery.
Democracy at its core: a single large urban area dominates, overwhelms the rest of the State by its population majority. The concerns of an urban area are very, very different from the concerns of the ex-urban and rural areas, but the urban vote overwhelms the State politics and the rural areas wind up having to live as if they too are hemmed in by the neighboring apartments and concrete towers and bicycle lanes and the general nanny-ism that urban areas both generate and require.
My concerns are very different when my neighbor lives on the other side of that wall versus when my nearest neighbor is 60 feet away across a lot in a separate house. But the busybody nanny-staters cannot reduce their concerns to deal with this at the city council level. Oh no – they must impose their vision on everyone so it all shows up at the State level where the urban population concentration dominates. Thus, my toolshed must be handicapped accessible, and my country road needs a bike lane. Stupid, but that’s the way it is.
How can the States enact some manner of “federalism” – where the large States cannot dominate the smaller States – in which a single urban population concentration cannot dominate the extensive rural population?
The only way they can do that is by writing into their state constitutions strong decentralization of power to local governments, and making it hard to amend that section. Strictly limit the state’s own power to matters that really have to be handled on a statewide basis. Abolish the state’s general police power and devolve it to local government. But have a strong bill of rights that neither local governments nor the state may infringe. Add a “full faith and credit” type clause that says anything that is completely legal in part of the state cannot be made more than a misdemeanor anywhere in the state.
States can’t implement literal federalist provisions like the US senate, that give disproportionate power to voters in less populous parts of the state, because states aren’t federations. States are not creations of municipalities, counties, etc. that have federated together and granted the state certain powers; they are subdivisions of the state, creations of the state, and therefore all their rights derive from the state, and they have no rights against the state.
But if two states were to agree to harmonize all their laws and merge their legislatures while maintaining their separate existence (and thus their two US senators each), the supreme court would probably allow them to mandate geographic balance in the upper house of their joint legislature, such that each state gets half the seats (or some other fixed proportion) regardless of their respective populations.
Lobby for state-level electoral colleges.