Today the Court continued its preliminary questioning of prospective jurors, moving through seven candidates by the end of the day. As was the case yesterday, questions were limited to how much exposure the prospective juror had to the case through the media and other channels, as well as how that may have impacted their opinion of the case
Dismissed Zimmerman juror escorted from courthouse after trespassing
RT @WFTV: Dismissed juror in #Zimmerman trial returns to court, escorted out: http://t.co/oQQ3GP6h28 #Zimmermanon9 pic.twitter.com/TylufwlzES
— Kathi Belich (@KathiBelich) June 14, 2013
Perhaps today’s most interesting news happened outside the court room. Juror E7, since identified by media sources as Jerry P. Counelis, who was dismissed from the jury pool on Wednesday for apparently misleading the court, was back at the court house today. We’ve done a separate write up just on Mr. Counelis, so if you’re interested in more just click the link in the header above.
Florida v. Zimmerman: Uncovering the Malicious Prosecution of my Son, George
Another unexpected bit of news today was the release by Robert Zimmerman, George’s father, of an e-book entitled as in the header above, covering the travails of his son through the current crises. I’ve downloaded a copy to my Kindle, and will comment as soon as I’ve had some time to “flip” through it.
Zimmerman's dad releases Amazon book http://t.co/UOAAPJ5GdL #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin
— Colleen Wright (@Colleen_Wright) June 14, 2013
Housekeeping: Frye hearing, juror
Before getting into the heart of jury questioning, Judge Nelson sought to resolve some housekeeping matters. As has been the pattern, she first asked Zimmerman to stand, and than inquired if he was present for, and satisfied with, his counsel’s handling of jury selection. (Interestingly, she was prompted by the State to place this question to Zimmerman, and thanked them for the reminder.) He said that he was.
Next she asked the State and defense when they were prepared to wrap up the Frye hearing left uncompleted last week. Both sides seemed caught off-guard, being completely focused on the jury selection process. The prospect of completing the Frye hearing on Saturday was raised, but the State quickly put in that they would be unable to appear that day. Judge Nelson appeared irritated at the lack of preparedness to deal with the matter decisively, and after some give-and-take–mostly the Judge Nelson giving and the lawyers taking, as is the nature of such things–there was a lengthy bench conference. The outcome of this is not known, but my sense is that we can expect the Frye hearing to wrap up sometime next week.
The decision on whether experts will weigh in on who called for help during a 911 call will have to be decided soon. 1/2 #Zimmermanon9
— Kathi Belich (@KathiBelich) June 14, 2013
Finally, she released a group of 23 prospective jurors who had “survived” to the next round of voir dire. They were told to return to court next Tuesday, and admonished to not discuss or research the case in the meantime, nor access any news about the case. Of the 23, 19 were women, 4 were men, and three of the group were black. Talk around the court house is that both sides want to bring 40 prospective jurors into the next round of voir dire, in anticipation of heavy attrition.
Jurors brought out. Looks like 23 people. 19 women, 4 men. Out of that 3 potential black jurors.#FOX35
— Valerie Boey FOX 35 (@vboey) June 14, 2013
Prospective Juror G29
A 30-something black woman, G29 is a fan of the Philips Phile on 104.1 in Orlando, a liberal talk radio show that had Al Sharpton on while he was in town. Like nearly all jurors that have made it through the questionnaire round she says she does not have a firm opinion of the case and is willing to set it aside any knowledge of it that isn’t presented in court. Her recollection of the event was more slanted than the other jurors, recalling that Mr. Martin “went to go buy something from the gas station and Mr. Zimmerman perceived him to be a threat so he got out of his car and started harassing him. He thought he was perhaps racial profiling, that’s where I got the whole race thing from. ” She recalled that the Facebook comments she saw were “favorable to Mr. Martin.” She said she had no problems being sequestered for the duration of the trial. She also affirmed that she would base her verdict on the evidence presented in the court room. Interestingly, it was then revealed that she had posted her summons to appear for jury service on her Facebook page. When asked why, she simply said, “it was just something to do.” She also mentioned that she’s lived in Seminole county for only the past 8 months. She recalled the shooting being described as either murder or an accident, and did not mention hearing self-defense as a possible explanation.
G-29: Facebook comments were "favorable to Mr. Martin," G-29 says. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZImmerman
— Jeff Weiner (@JeffWeinerOS) June 14, 2013
Prospective Juror G47
An early 20’s white male wearing a collared shirt and vest, G47 was unemployed at the time of the event but since began working at a restaurant, which promoted him to assistant manager just one work day before his jury duty began. Despite this, he takes considerable ownership of his job, calling the cooking equipment there “his” and referring to “his employees.” He struck this observer as rather pretentious, and not someone I would want to be sequestered with for four weeks or more. Humorously, G47 conditioned many of his statements with such phrases as “not really,” “probably,” and “for the most part.” Each time it caused West to pull up short and dig in, resulting in an experience not particularly enjoyable for anyone involved. West was apologetic, but determined. Somewhat disturbingly, G47 suggested that the “defense might have to prove Zimmerman’s innocence,” but also claimed to not yet have arrived at an opinion on the case.
Prospective Juror G63
Another young man in his 20’s or early 30’s, G63 is currently unemployed and of “mixed race,” being parts German, Philippino, Chinese, and Spanish. Despite having a few minorities in his ancestry he does not believe race is a factor in this case. G63 has also formed no opinion of the case, and can offer little knowledge of events or subsequent proceedings. He did recall looking up “Stand Your Ground” but was unsure if that was before or after he became aware of this case. He also mentioned the Castle Doctrine and self defense law in general, though when asked could not remember any details of any of these concepts. He knows the case inspired some debate about “gun law,” and he recalls hearing that someone high up in the criminal justice system had been fired for mishandling the case by not promptly arresting Zimmerman.
#Zimmerman Trial G63 heard of Stand Your Ground and Castle Doctrine. Unsure what they are. He could use my book (http://t.co/YXTDqVv4Ey) 🙂
— Law of Self Defense (@LawSelfDefense) June 14, 2013
Lunch Recess
Prospective Juror G66
A retired white female from Chicago, G66 had a great mid-east accent and the courtesy, openness, and kindness to go with it. Often joking with both lawyers and laughing aloud, she still made sure to add a “sir” to every no or yes response. She indicated that she watches the news every day, and that she wrote the whole timeline of what happened on her questionnaire. She recalled seeing a picture of Martin with his hoodie on, and feeling sorry for him. She said she also felt sorry for Zimmerman when she say his injuries. Her recollection was that a neighbor called the police to report a “scuffle, and then she heard a shot.” Supporting the speculation that she based this recollection on having heard the Witness #11 911 recording, she said he heard the screams on the 911 call but has not decided who she thinks it is. She said she would base her conclusions on the facts in evidence at trial, and that she had not yet formed an opinion either way. She indicated that she could manage the issue of sequestration.
G66 watches the news everyday, wrote the whole timeline of what happened on her questionnaire. #Zimmerman #Trayvon
— Natalie Tolomeo (@NatalieTolomeo) June 14, 2013
Previously dismissed E7 is escorted off court house property around this time.
#Zimmerman: E7, dismissed for facebook post, returned demanding to know how his post was made public. Escorted off for trespassing. #Trayvon
— Law of Self Defense (@LawSelfDefense) June 14, 2013
Prospective Juror G81
An African American male in his 30’s or 40’s, who lives less than 1/2 mile from the scene of the shooting and often brought his kids to play in a park just across the street from the complex. A complex political character, he listens to both Ed Schulz of MSNBC and Bill O’Reilly of Fox News. G81 portrayed the two sides of the case uniquely, saying his friends saw it either as a “tragedy” or “typical” depending on which side they were on. He recalled that Martin looked 14 or 15 in the photos he saw. When asked to expand on this, he pointed to the fact that too many African American males die violently each year in this country, and have since the days of Jim Crow and even slavery. G81 also saw the case not just from whether Zimmerman “did the right thing” but whether the Stand Your Ground law in the state was a good law. On how the media portrayed the episode he said “At first it was a shock that a young man was shot and it was permissible here in Florida.” He thinks the case will be decided based on whether Zimmerman properly met the limitations of Stand Your Ground.
#Zimmerman Trial: G81 thinks question to be decided in case is whether or not Zimmerman properly used the Stand Your Ground law. #Trayvon
— Law of Self Defense (@LawSelfDefense) June 14, 2013
Prospective Juror G87
G87 is a white woman who works at a school very close to the scene of the incident, likely at Bentley Elementary School across the street. She recalls things that perhaps someone only close to that location would, such as tour busses arriving to offload people to go to a memorial for Trayvon that included teddy bears and balloons. She recalled seeing photos of Zimmerman showing that ‘there were cuts on the back of his head.” She noted that this was her first time as a prospective juror, and humorously added that “it’s been spectacular.” After her questioning she was permitted to leave, and it seemed was most likely dismissed.
Juror 87: this her 1st time as prospective jury service. "It's been spectacular." #Trayvon, #Zimmerman
— Rene Stutzman (@renestutzman) June 14, 2013
Prospective Juror H6
A white man in his 30’s or 40’s, H6 is also described as “big.” He was rare in describing the media as slanted toward Mr. Trayvon early, but becoming less biased as time went on. He began to doubt the narrative that Mr. Zimmerman was at fault when he saw the pictures of him with injuries to his face and head. He sais he hasn’t formed an opinion about the case, and recalls hearing that Zimmerman called the police to report that Martin was “someone suspicious.” He also recalled hearing Zimmerman on the non-emergency call to the police and thinking that “he sounded like he was concerned about his neighborhood.”
#Zimmerman Trial: What is 3 most significant things of case? H6: Stand Your Ground, 911 calls, can't think of 3rd. #TrayvonMartin
— Law of Self Defense (@LawSelfDefense) June 14, 2013
At that point the court recessed until 9AM Monday, June 17.
Well, that’s it for today’s coverage of day five of the Zimmerman trial. Be sure to check back in then, as well as during the weekend to see if any news occurs during the interval.
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Comments
Thank you for covering this trial for us, your commentary is wonderful.
G81 sounds balanced. He may be another good pick that the prosecution may not want on the jury.
The guy escorted off . There went his Kardashian future.
Thank you so much for this investigative work and commentary you are providing Andrew!
When I was much younger, I always held the belief (rather naively it now seems) that Voir Dire was somewhat a waste of time. People can always lie about their biases and objectivity, but there is a lot of background checking and cross vetting which is being done as well.
It really is quite fascinating, especially when some of the prospective jurors are caught with their “pants down” figuratively speaking.
Right now I’m thinking that the most likely outcome of the trial is a hung jury.
In the age of electronic media and personal devices it is getting very difficult to find a group of people that have not been informed, (Either wrongly or correctly)to sit on a jury. It is also interesting to see how people use the internet web sites as forums to reveal their views on this subject. It kind of makes using Facebook and other sites look a little risky for future jurors or for that matter any future opportunities such as jobs or promotions. Something for everyone to think about.
Given that jurors keep “recalling” that Zimmerman “chased” Martin, some of you may be interested in reading my “Myth Buster” analysis and debunking of this particular piece of disinformation at my blog, Law of Self Defense: http://bit.ly/11ifnpj. I swear, if I have to hear this nonsens about Zimmerman chasing Martin one more time my head is going to explode. 🙂