Ben Shapiro: Tucker Carlson is the “main agent” in “normalizing Nazism within the Republican Party”
“The main agent in that normalization is Tucker Carlson, who is an intellectual coward, a dishonest interlocutor”
The controversy surrounding The Heritage Foundation and Tucker Carlson / Nick Fuentes continues to burn. It appears from people who supposedly have knowledge that the President of Heritage Kevin Roberts survived an attempted ouster and is standing by Tucker though it’s unlikely Heritage will work with him in the future.
But the controversy is not going away. Prior coverage:
- Heritage Foundation Soils Itself, Embraces Tucker Carlson and Nick Fuentes
- Heritage Trustee: “I will not—I cannot—accept the idea that we have ‘no enemies to the right’”
If anything it’s shifting from Fuentes and Roberts’ statement to Tucker as the focus. Tucker and his supporters are trying to create a narrative that Tucker is a free speech hero (classic crisis management tactic). Some big names, like Megyn Kelly, are standing by him (he will be on stage with her on her tour on November 5) and also pretending it’s just about free speech.
Tucker’s supporters also are asserting this is a backdoor way of attacking JD Vance.
The big influencers claiming criticism of Tucker is a backdoor attack on JD Vance are wrong, but they have convinced me that Operation Protect Tucker is about protecting JD from the inevitable taint of being close to Tucker. Is that why @Heritage @KevinRobertsTX needlessly jumped…
— William A. Jacobson (@wajacobson) November 3, 2025
It’s baffling how Tucker has such a stranglehold on big influencers and podcasters – everyone seems afraid.
But there are even more people speaking out.
I was on Newsmax this morning talking about the Tucker problem:
“There is an influential group who are trying to destroy the MAGA movement, who hate Donald Trump because they think he’s too pro-Israel and he’s too close to Jews. This is really a malicious thing and Tucker Carlson is a major problem. And I wish President Trump, who’s been great on so many things, would speak out about it because Tucker is destroying everything President Trump has achieved because he’s going to end up putting a Democrat back in the White House.”
More important, Ben Shapiro released a long dissection of Tucker. Here is the full thing, focus on the intro and the ending:
(Transcipt excerpts auto-generated, may contain transcription errors.)
“Hey folks. I want to do something different. On today’s show, we are going to cover one topic in depth. That topic is, I think, the most important thing happening in the country. It was a hot topic last week, but I wanted to take some time to really gather my thoughts and speak on it in coherent fashion, holistic fashion.
That topic is the fragmentation of the political right. That fragmentation is being caused purposefully by a splinter faction of people led by a young man named Nick Fuentes. They call themselves the Groypers. They’re white supremacists. They hate women, Jews, Hindus, many types of Christians, brown people of a wide variety of backgrounds, blacks, America’s foreign policy, and America’s constitution. They admire Hitler and Stalin, and that splinter faction is now being facilitated and normalized within the mainstream Republican party.
The main agent in that normalization is Tucker Carlson, who is an intellectual coward, a dishonest interlocutor, and a terrible friend, and Tucker Carlson last week was aided abetted, celebrated for normalizing Nazism within the Republican Party, by the mainstay organization of the traditional right, The Heritage Foundation.”
No to the groypers.
No to cowards like Tucker Carlson, who normalize their trash.
No to those who champion them.
No to demoralization.
No to bigotry and anti-meritocratic horseshit.
No to anti-Americanism.
No. pic.twitter.com/71TModtGWq— Ben Shapiro (@benshapiro) November 3, 2025
“Americans are not pro segregation, pro rape, anti-woman, pro child marriage, anti-black, anti Jew, anti-Indian, anti-Latino, anti-constitution, pro Hitler nut jobs like Nick Fuentes and Americans are not pro Putin, pro Iran, pro-China, pro Venezuela, pro Kamas, pro Fuentes, prot, idiots like Tucker Carlson. They hate this vit garbage. If Republicans decide to cower before the likes of neo-Nazis and their propagandize, they deserve to lose and they will lose. neo-Nazis and their propagandize are not Republicans. They’re not America first. They’re not maga. They sure as hell aren’t conservative. These people aren’t to my right. They’re not attached in any way to the fundamental principles of conservatism, and these people have already declared themselves to be my enemies. I’d be a fool not to take them seriously. If they get their way, they will hollow out the Republican party, lead it to electoral catastrophe and empty it, and the country of any semblance of decency in the proces
My answer is no. No, to the Groypers, no to their publicists like Tucker Carlson. No to those who champion them, no to demoralization, no to bigotry and anti meritocratic horse. No to anti-Americanism. No.
This is our country. This is our party, and this is our conservative movement, and I will not stand by while it is handed over to those who betray the most fundamental principles I’ve spent my entire life defending and advocating. That is a path to defeat and a path to moral oblivion. I reject it because if we lose the right, we will lose to the left, and either way, we’ll lose the country. I’m Ben Shapiro.”
If you watch nothing else today, pls at least watch this final conclusion from @benshapiro.
Amen to every word.
The answer is NO. pic.twitter.com/6QfmEq8qVk
— AG (@AGHamilton29) November 3, 2025
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Ben is right
Tucker is not who we thought he was
Agreed, Tucker is not a friend.
I don’t know exactly what motivates him other than a desire to cause failure on the current right.
Which will only lead to a rise of the far left – what he sees in that I have no idea. It’s a horrible thing for an intelligent person to want.
Money is what motivates him.
I’ve always known who he was. Way back to his reaction to Sarah Palin.
Punxsutawney Ben arose from his hole on May 29 and declared winter would soon be over if it wasn’t already.
I swear Ben is so late to the game. Every. Single. Time. For his next trick, he’ll arrive in Portland and declare antifa to be a problem.
He may be late to the party, but you appear to have missed it entirely. What’s the problem? They didn’t ask you for permission nicely enough?
My point is… Ben only makes these assertions when its safe. Once everyone else in the room makes the assertion… then three hours later Ben shows up.
He’s the guy on the crew who shows up AFTER the work is done. Then conservatives treat it as if Tucker isn’t an anti semitic douche until Ben Shapiro blesses it as such… and Ben shows up when every other figure in the world has already stated it.
There’s people who hate Ann Coulter… but her columns are original, researched, and you will not get facts in her columns from any other place. She doesn’t ride the last 64 hour trend on twitter. She does the hard work even though she’s been a fixture for decades. The worst AI in the world can and probably does write anything that comes out of Ben’s mouth.
Disagree, Shapiro has been very vocal post-Oct 6, more so than many other prominent Jews, hell more so than most. He also has been vocal about Arab lies. This has done nothing but gain him hate and death threats. I have no problem with his timing, not should you. At least he speaks out.
Name one issue in the past 5 years where he’s first or second to the microphone?
If anyone wants to claim to be the needle of the moral compass (as Ben does), waiting to see where everyone else stands isn’t courage, it isn’t statesmanship, it’s pandering. He’s shrunken in stature to be no more courageous nor risky about being on the right side of history as the person in 2025 declaring that masking up during COVID was stupid.
He’s a hero at reading yesterday’s headlines and pontificating the most obvious of absurd outcomes.
Well thank goodness a Jewish conservative pundit can wake up and decide 10/6 was evil. What a moral compass God granted that Jew!!!
Once upon a time, Ben did the work. Those days are long past.
What do you have against Shapiro? I suspect this complaining about how fast he responds is a smokescreen. If that is all it is there are a hell of a lot of people that never respond.
Maybe so. But calling him a Nazi is unacceptable. He may have a different point of view but he is not a Nazi.
Really?! If he pals around with nazis, he’s a nazi.
How the f**k are people who “admire Hitler and Stalin” (a socialist and a communist) considered part of the “right wing”? This is what happens when you don’t pay attention in school (or don’t educate yourself after getting out of school). You will swallow swill like this and not even gag, never mind retch. Even the dopes who believe Hitler was “right wing” certainly understand Stalin was a commie. (I’m sure the Left has Jedi mind tricks they use on themselves to rationalize how someone who admires Hitler and Stalin can only be a right-winger.)
Orwell considered Stalin right-wing.
Orwell was wrong in that regard.
And you think you’re in a better position to know this than he was? What is your basis for determining what “right” and “left” meant in that period, compared to his experience as a prominent member of the British left, who experienced Stalin’s politics firsthand in Spain? Have you even read Homage to Catalonia?
Perhaps we should not rely of left and right labels. Rather note their primary characteristics.
Stalin, Lenin, Castro, Mao, Ho Chi-min, Pol Pot, Hitler, Peron, Mussolini, etal, were all Authoritarian Collectivists who did not value individuals or recognize individual rights or any constraint on government power over society.
All were different frosting on the same shit cake.
Milhouse – you are definitely (at least in this instance) correct.
Aside from the fact that Euro – and specifically Brit – definitions of political Right and Left are different from the American perspectives…..
From Orwell’s perspective the most important difference between “Left” and “Right” was Totalitarian vs Individual Freedom.
The commies in Spain – by that standard – were as Right Wing as anyone.
“By their fruits you will know them” – if the political faction in question responds to non-compliance to approved GoodThink or any display of official BadThink with violence as the first option – in Orwell’s view they were “Right Wing”.
Remind you of any groups in current-day American politics, perhaps?
Yep.
My point was that “right” and “left” are much more slippery terms than some people seem to imagine. Their meanings depend heavily on when and where they’re being applied. The way we, on the 21st century American right, like to use them is the most useful one for our purposes, but it’s not the way they have been used historically, even in the USA let alone in other countries.
Remember that the original meanings of “right” and “left” were “monarchist” and “revolutionary”.
a lefty always wants the government in control ( during any period of the world)
a right winger wants to be let the f alone
now the fact that people vary those facts is just part of the pop culture of its time ( and thats where you are correct “in that period”)
but it wont change the facts either you want government in peoples personal business or you dont
Yes, unlike Orwell, who himself was a Leftist and socialist and sought to put as much daylight between himself and communism, we have the benefit of time and know communism is the ultimate end goal of all socialists.
Totalitarianism can NEVER come from the right. It can only emanate from the left.
That is not historically true. That is the definition of those terms that’s most useful to us, in the 21st century American right, but it’s not how they were used in other places and other times. Remember the original meanings were monarchist and revolutionary.
Chris, you contradict yourself. You say Orwell was a socialist, and that communism is the ultimate end goal of all socialists. And yet surely you admit that communism was very much not Orwell’s end goal.
The point is that you can’t apply our definitions of right and left to other times and other places.
I fully agree with you, Owen-Kellogg. Millhouse sparked a very interesting conversation by challenging your statement, but he did so by essentially using a different language (from the 1930’s) to criticize your clearly accurate statement.
His “accurate” statement?! That Orwell was wrong?! How was that accurate? And what language can one use to discuss the matter, other than that of the UK in the the 1930s?
The problem is that political definitions of “Right” and “Left” vary both by time and place – as Milhouse correctly pointed out the Original Meaning originates in the conflict of Monarchist v Revolutionary.
Its since been hijacked – but however you define it – a “Right Wing” in country X may well be – by any one definition – to the Left of the “Left Wing” in country Y.
In any case, you should definitely take Orwell as an authority on who is and is not politically X during his lifetime than some random modern poster. The man wrote one of THE authoritative books illustrating how authoritative (ie fascist) govt worked – at least in part based on his real-life experiences with the (self-called) “Liberal” authoritative commies fighting the authoritative Franco in Spain.
There is too little published about what was going on in the ground in 1930’s Germany.
Many Germans defected to the Soviets over the violence of Hitler’s provocation. Agent Sonja is good book to read/listen to on that. Suffice to say the German people were stuck between bad and very bad.
Amazon’s Mr Jones tells a very graphic view. How close it was to the actual events would require a better historian than myself.
West Berlin during and after the airlift had to have been political heaven for the average German person.
For how Britain is today… the few surviving veterans have second thoughts about the sacrifices of their generation. The invasion of an army of Mohammed Stabby McStabby is not going to play out well. In fact, it can only play out in one of two ways. VIOLENT and MORE VIOLENTLY.
Orwell was a socialist who remained a socialist even as he was detailing the horrors that are inimical to socialism.
He was one of those fools who thought the Old Major’s ideas led to something besides the rule of Comrade Napoleon and his henchmen.
Does it matter if you were in a country run by the National SOCIALIST German Workers Party or the Union of Soviet SOCIALIST Republics? All SOCIALIST Governments have been evil.
Does it really matter which level of Hell you end up in, when you are still in Hell? What good are bragging rights about being less evil than someone else?
It certainly mattered to people at the time. I know of one person, related to me by marriage, who was in Riga when the Germans attacked and had an opportunity to flee into the USSR. He refused, on the grounds that better the devil you don’t know than the one that you do, and that proved to be a fatal error.
I was fooled by Tucker when he was on Fox news.. I thought he was pithy, sharp and intelligent. Now I consider him a bigot and a fool. Good riddance.
Everyone hated Fox for dumping him. They asserted Fox had gone leftist. Fox is a terrible news outlet, but they weren’t wrong on that one.
I watched the Carlson interview with Fuentes (a guy I never took seriously in the past, so I’d never seen him on video before).
One thing that struck me is that Fuentes dropped out in his freshman year at college (if he is telling the story truthfully—can we rely on his as the only account of any event?). Before that, you do gotta wonder how much attention he was paying in school.
Does this dude have an ideology?
What he has is an unfailing gift for getting into pissing contests with anyone on the right who wields more influence than he does. (That means nearly everybody. Fuentes has previously been in a pissing contest with Tucker Carlson himself.)
During the interview Fuentes went on about his undiminished admiration for Donald Trump. Later he slipped something in to the effect that he didn’t vote for Trump in 2024. This was one of several things Carlson should have drilled him on, and didn’t.
There is something seriously “off” about Fuentes. Before watching the interview I assumed he was a neo-Nazi, as so many people do. But neo-Nazis walk a far steadier path than this guy.
My best guess is this: Fuentes wants complete control over MAGA, the Trump movement, post-2015 conservativism, whatever you want to call it. *Total control.*
That means he wants to control Donald Trump, too. (He may be so egotistical as to imagine Donald Trump taking orders from him.)
If Fuentes can’t get total control, he’ll settle for total destruction, of everybody and everything that he wants to control and can’t. He’ll try to destroy Trump, t00.
We’re looking at a man who will say anything and adopt any disguise in his quest for power. He never raised his voice or uttered a real threat during the interview, And he scared the hell out of me.
I have no idea whether Nick Fuentes hates Jews as such. What he hates is people who stand in his way. Some of them are Jews (to hear him tell it, his first pissing contest was with Ben Shapiro). To push other people out of his way, he will cloak himself as anti-these or anti-those.
You can’t expect a man like this to be consistent in his hates. *Everyone* ought to be very afraid of Nick Fuentes.
I have to admit I’ve never heard of this deuchebag before yesterday. I’m not sure if I should be afraid of him. I do know for certain that I loathe him.
Fuentes is very suspicious in my mind with all his baggage, and the fact he has not been canceled and de-platformed.
Perhaps Controlled opposition and used as a poison pill? The tactics of 5th generation warfare to control the narrative and cancel people are nasty, unfortunately very effective.
Yes, I’m a bit suspicious of any so called conservative that still got traffic from the internet giants.
Legal insurrection has huge street cred with me, since they were shadow banned and my guess even deplatformed (forced to move to a new system). Probably still are shadow banned by some internet giants. Google is so biased against conservative sites, throttling traffic and cutting advertising (the federalist is another example of a victim of this),
Agent provocateur
Rush Limbaugh quote LI a few times in the early years.
That and good reporting has earned bookmarks that can’t be erased.
Many of the commenter profiles date back to that era.
I wonder if the dozen or so clowns caught in the nazi texting who were working towards controlling the Young Republicans organization were his kiddies.
“During the interview Fuentes went on about his undiminished admiration for Donald Trump. Later he slipped something in to the effect that he didn’t vote for Trump in 2024.”
In August 2024 he made various “demands” to Trump and threatened to go with his followers to Michigan and somehow throw the state to Kamala if Trump didn’t acquiesce.
https://x.com/JadenPMcNeil/status/1828505017382297732
Since the election, he and his claque have occasionally argued that the country would be no worse off if Kamala had won.
The key thing to know about Fuentes is that he engaged in behavior on J6 (encouraging followers to cross police barriers and enter the Capitol) that got others indicted, but not Nick. His political views and actions made him exactly the kind of guy the Biden DOJ would ordinarily love to hammer, but they showed no interest in prosecuting him. Very weird. The general sense on the far right is that he’s some kind of fed or fed cooperator, and probably controlled by [who knows].
His hostility to Jews is pretty obviously sincere, but in most of the rest of what he says and does I think he’s dutifully playing the role of agent provocateur.
Alex Jones is not on the Ben Shapiro wagon for this. Interesting take on this and Fuentas.
I’ve watched Tucker a few times.
What did he say?
I enjoyed what I saw and herd….
I don’t know what this is all about.
Disclaimer- I have not watched either Tucker interview. I am reading Dr. Malone’s book on 5th generation warfare, that is frankly terrifying on media and internet influence operations.
Basically Tucker interviewed a person, Nick Fuentes, that many think is a scumbag, controlled opposition (a fed), and the interview was a softball one.
Nick Fuentes is anti Jewish, and this is being used to associate Tucker with him, Guilt by association. Another view the backlash against Tucker as an example of Netanyahu’s 8th front (US public opinion on Israel).
Two views.
One view is Tucker is an anti Semite he is legitimizing these type of horrible people.
This follows Tucker softball interviewing some historian that questioned the Holocaust (I have not watched).
Another view, is Tucker has become a target of the Israeli influence operation targeting the U.S. by mentioning his belief in huge Israeli influence in the U.S. government. Laura Loomer charged that Tucker is getting Qatar money.
So far Tucker has survived all the attacks against him.
My view – Tucker is a mixed bag. He has done some great interviews, and some horrible ones.
And I totally don’t get his relationship with Candace Owen’s.
It’s all out there. You can see Tucker, Candace, Fuentes all on YouTube or somewhere else. Educate yourself.
Tucker “interviewed” Fuentes. If interview is defined as letting the other person talk and hang himself, yeah Tucker interviewed him and let Fuentes talk. Tucker is being held to account for allowing a vile, despicable Fuentes rattle on without any pushback. One has to wonder what Tucker’s motive was in this interview. The whole thing is weird. Fuentes is weird, Tucker is weird, Heritage is weird. Tucker and his rapport with whack job Candace Owens is very weird. Beware of Tucker.
The lack of pushback would be my issue. The same with Rogan. By all means have these lunatics on. Pushback though on their lunatic statements. If you don’t your complicit.
I have the same issue when a progressive media outlet platforms a wackadoodle progressive and let’s them spout without pushback,
Oh, I just started watching Professor Jacobson…
That sheds light on things.
Benny sounds a lot like the kids that boo him off campus when it comes to this stuff
You sound like a pile of shit
Stop with the Full Circle. The National Socialists are the opposite or Marxism.
They, at worst-case are dragging the Conservatives into Cultural Marxism and their H8 for Jews and Western religions.
Stop with this crap.
Tucker is anti-Israel and probably anti-semite.
He is NOT a SOCIALIST.
The split in the D Party is about 80/20 between Fascist and Communists. The sole difference is whether they prefer indirect government control of the economy through an all powerful bureaucracy (aka Obamacare) or direct control (aka “single payer”.
Anyone on the Right is for free market, limited government. (to continue the healthcare analogy – abolish Obamacare, minimal government, totally free market).
What about his routine attacks on capitalism?
Are you saying he supports feudalism?
never can get behind/understand a patriots attack on capitalism
NOTHING creates freedom like capitalism
I read all that and saw only a lot of name-calling.
Vance and Shapiro in my experience are both too young to be wise. To them all terms remain fixed when you argue using them, so you can proceed confidently (not listening) from principle to accusation.
Who has to do name-calling? Someone who cannot argue.
Sorry promoting anti-Semitism is not welcome in this party.
Go ahead downvote me
If you are a neo-Nazi like Tucker Carlson I want you to vote Democrat.
Tucker Carlson is not a neo-Nazi, except in the minds of those who equate not being Pro-Israel with being an anti-Semite.
You can support Israel’s right to exist without wanting to give Israel a blank check of support.
Yes, he is. He does not support Israel’s right to exist. And that is antisemitic.
In Vance’s case he had to grow up fast and beat a lot of odds. I’ll trade the “lack of wisdom “ of a Vance to the alleged wisdom of some older politician who attended prep school, never got his hands dirty, and went to an ivy league school based on legacy.
We should reject guilt by association claims in isolation the same way we reject claims of/for/against an individual based on group/tribe. That said TC had opportunities in his interview with Fuentes to pushback, to correct errors, clarify presumptions and while he did do a bit more of that normal (TC is notorious for asking a question then allowing the guest to ramble uninterrupted) he also passed on multiple occasions. IMO that’s a problem with TC. When someone makes an outlandish statement the interviewer should dive in to ask for clarification before allowing the subject to continue. Failing to do that leads us to wonder if the interviewer shares the presumptions/worldview underlying the outlandish statement. When these missed opportunities pile up and TC has let them pile up with other kooky interview subjects, it becomes a recognizable pattern.
IMO TC really needs to do some soul searching about how he conducts his interviews. It isn’t so much that he brings on kooky or controversial guests but that he doesn’t engage enough with them to force them to defend their kooky claims. His platform becomes less of an interview/discussion and far more like an open mic night for kooks to spew whatever Cray Cray nonsense with little to no resistance, challenge or clarifying questions.
Ok this is my basic opinion. Yes I would like to deplatform everyone who disagrees with me,No I wouldn’t even if I had the power because free speech is more important. However if you give some one a platform for speech you are obligated to call them out when they misuse it or spout ignorance and stupidity, If you don’t frankly you are complicit and implicitly agreeing with what they are saying whether that’s true or your just trying to stir things up. No one knows what you are actually thinking.
I haven’t watched the entire Ben Shapiro video, but no discussion of TC’s interviewing style is complete without the mention of his backing from Qatar.
https://fortune.com/2023/10/17/tucker-carlson-media-company-funding-1789-15-million-seed-capital/
All this fuss about a little creep who identifies as an incel- a guy who can’t get laid in a Tijuana whore house with hundred dollar bulls falling out of his pockets. I was glad to see this guy allowed to talk to see what all the panic was about. No intelligent person could possibly take this clown seriously. Yes, it must be painful to listen to personal insults if one is Jewish, but the guy is such a loser there is no way he is normalizing Nazism. I wish my fellow Catholics could be 1 percent as outraged by the decades of anti-catholic campaigning by the media and government.
They must be very tiny bulls if they fit in his pocket.
Live cattle sell for about $2.30 a pound, so a $100 bull would weigh about 43 lb. But I guess a pocket-sized bull would be worth more per pound, just for the curiosity value.
Fluffing a neo-Nazi is outrageous.
Catholics by the way tend to be outraged by anti-Catholic activities.
However years of fluffing neo-Nazis and promoting anti-Semitism from Tucker a major figure is a big issue.
agree
I don’t think Nick would EVER want a girl touching him for any amount of money.
Self hate can make people truly crazy
He’s short. So was Hitler. So was Stalin.
Napolean was short.
So were a couple of really shitty bosses I had.
Short man syndrome.
Napoleon was of average height for his time and place. About 5′ 6″.
For that matter, Hitler was 5′ 8″, and Stalin was 5′ 6″, the same as Churchill.
Maybe if we fracture the right, then we can let the left win. Phwew. It was a close one guys. We almost won. Can’t have that happen.
Realistically, I don’t care who I ally with to defeat the left. If they are a whack job, then I’ll fight them after we defeat the left. Defeating the left/globalist nonsense has to be at the top of the priority stack if we are going to a nice near-future for humanity. They are the orcs of this world – even elves and dwarves drop their quarrels when the orcs show up.
I’m no fan of either one of them but I’ll take Tucker over Shapiro any day of the week. Anyone whose allegiance is to another country is no American,
Any asshole such as nazi SamC130 doing a baseless dual loyalty accusation towards a conservative for supporting American allies who share our values over America’s enemies like China Russia and Iran is a neo-Nazi scumbag and i hope you burn in hell forever.
I know you feel yourself being a piece of shit and a Nazi is different from the others.
I promise you it isn’t you belong in hell and are a horrible piece of shit and deserve hell.
Okay. Elaborate. Prove his allegiance is to another country. Facts please not your or anyone elses opinion.
I know this is late but anyone who is a WW2 revisionist…..
What part of his embracing WW2 Revisionism didn’t any of you who are now surprised understand?
Or for that matter embracing Andrew Tate a man who has tutorials for boys on how to abuse young girls, who advocates human trafficking (I don’t care if an incel who paid to see it did it after he has a course on how to do sex trafficking) advocates slavery for girls, and to top it of WAS ARRESTED for human trafficking and got out due to corruption.
That was not a recent thing.
If we had a standard of
“you are free to say what you want but if you do that sort of extreme misogyny you may not do so in any association with the Republican Party or American Conservatism”
or
“You are free to be an unpatriotic piece of shit who declares the atomic bombings to be (fill in old leftist talking point Tucker came up with) but not in any association with the Republican Party or American Conservatism”
Tucker pushed pushed and pushed till he felt safe to show us his Nazi heart.
When he was pushing to advance extreme misogyny to young boys he should have been shown the door at that point.
A follow up
Someone who claims the historic narrative about WW2 is a lie is by definition a Nazi.
My tolerance for Nazis is absolutely zero.
Any other stance is treason to every single man who died or returned home maimed from life in the second world war.
Historical note: Everyone hates the Nazi’s today for what they did to the Jews. Convenient for modern audiences to claim to be on the right side of history when NONE of the countries at war against the Nazi’s had ZERO consideration for what they were doing to Jews and other internal wrong thinkers.
Your grandparents may not have owned slaves, but they sure as hell didn’t give 2 figs about saving the Jews from Nazis.
Not by definition, but it’s almost always true. There are a very few exceptions; I knew one of them, SEK3. A Holocaust denier who was not an antisemite was a very rare creature.
I hate illiinois nazis.
Tucker let a guy out his nutty beliefs for all to see and somehow Tucker is the problem? Personally, I distrust Ben Shapiro far more than Tucker
The danger that Nick Fuentes poses is not reputational damage for people who associate with him.
The danger that he poses is (a) he takes control of Tucker Carlson or whoever or (b) he sets out to ruin Tucker Carlson or whoever.
I’ve read that Fuentes sent some of his “groypers” to Charlie Kirk events with the purpose of disrupting them.
By most standards, Fuentes is a loser. That doesn’t mean he can’t do harm.
Tucker Carlson has his own problems. Nick Fuentes didn’t cause them. But now he’s going to add to Carlson’s problems. He’ll turn against Carlson in a heartbeat.
A minor question about Fuentes.
From what he told Tucker Carlson (as always, verification is needed), Fuentes was anti-Islamic in 2017.
Has he taken any position on Islam more recently?
Godwin’s Law. When you accuse somebody of being a “Nazi” and they are not a Nazi, you lose the argument.
I read and listen to a wide range of opinions. Unless I’m mistaken, Carlson has a beef with Israel’s influence on US politicians and not with the Jewish religion.
The question of political influence and how it is obtained are real issues. Israel has to be 100% for Israeli needs, but how that is expressed is part of Tucker’s and Jones’ question. taking out the Iranian nukes altered opinion for many…but it had to be done for US interests.
Godwin was a leftist trying to get people to stop pointing out how much leftist policy looks like nazi policy.
Anyone who thinks that antisemitism is simply hatred toward the Jewish religion has no understanding of the term or history itself. People have always found the best reasons to murder Jews. It’s not the religion, it’s that they poison wells and caused black death. It’s not the religion, it’s their commission of genocide. It’s not their religion, it’s their control of the international banking system. Etc. etc. ad nauseam.
Control of media
Control of politicians.
Undue influence
Loyalty to another country
Control of entertainment
Control of Banks (or money lending)
Different dress
Not Christian or Muslim or whatever
“The Other”
Lot’s of excuses for irrational hatred. I’m sure I can think of others.
Ahhh,,, another one popular here and other conservative blogs…
The vote Democrat
I’m sad to say a majority of Jews do vote democrat but its 2/3 and it could be a lot less in the future if there were less TCs.
Well I’m glad Mohammed has clarified that point for us.
Indeed, the term antisemitism was specifically coined for the purpose of describing hatred for Jews that is not based on religion. Before the 19th century this almost didn’t exist. Jews were hated for their religion, and could escape that hatred by giving it up. Antisemitism was invented by atheists, who could no longer justify their Jew-hatred by religion, and indeed despised such religious hatred as primitive and unjustified. So they came up with a new reason to hate Jews themselves, simply for being Jews; a Jew can never stop being one, so it became impossible to escape this new hatred.
Let’s be real here. Every single cease fire Israel has made has basically been imposed by the US. This includes the cease fire for the 58, 67, and 73 wars and most of their battles with the arabs since. US forbid Israel from getting involved in the first gulf war when Iraq was lobbing scuds into Israel. The US under Obama and Biden attempted to interfere in Israeli elections by providing money, experts, and editorials. Not the other way around. Israel is client state of the US currently. I’d personally like for them to change that.
As for Jewish influence on American politicians so what? Is it any different from any other interest group? If so, how? To which politicians?? The left currently not in power or the right which is in power? They have limits how much money they can provide and their ability to mobilize is small given their small numbers.
I’m tired of the BS argument. I’m Jewish and no politician in my state would give me the time of day, The only thing that talks is money and lots of interests have money to throw at politicians.
Antisemitism has nothing to do with religion. The Nazis did not hate Jews because of their religion, they hated the religion only because of its association with Jews, and they hated Christianity for the same reason.
Israel’s only influence on US politicians comes from the fact that so many US voters support Israel, and from the fact that supporting Israel is simply the right thing to do. Attributing this influence to some sort of malign or corrupt manipulation, a la the Protocols, is antisemitic.
Well stated.
Tucker Carlson has name recognition because he was formerly in top slot during prime time at Fox. But he doesn’t practice “real” journalism. He believes that journalism has become something like pro wrestling, a theatrical pseudo sport, with fake personalities, and a fake referee to give the appearance of rules. He’s just in it for the money. He doesn’t believe in anything. Now he’s getting paid by somebody, Russia Today and Al Jazeera?
Nobody knows who fuentes is.
the whole point is about the slippery slope
b/c any *allowed* criticism of israel is just a step or two away from becoming an adherent of Illness Omar
so those of us who say…hey let tucker allow the free speech are in fact wanting free and open discussion ( this is moi) but cant deny the slippery slope fact
Oh this is such bullshit. Israeli or Jewish ACTIONS can be coitized. This is a given. However, those that do such criticism usually just criticize Israel or Jews. There is no nuance. It is all or nothing. Also, they don’t apply similar criticisms unifomingly. It’s just all the Jews all the time. That is what makes it antisemitism.
Criticizing Israel is like criticizing a convenience store clerk in the hood for shooting back. There is not a tablespoon of moral relativity a sane or moral person can stand on.
In the context of Oct 7 to current day absolutely. Their historically overly protectionist trade policies would be an example of something worthy of fair criticism.
IMO Israel isn’t ‘special’ nor ‘different’. They are one of the 200 ish Nation States in existence with all the same rights and prerogatives but also the same responsibilities. They ain’t exempt from legitimate criticism. That said every Nation has the right to defend itself as they see fit and if an adversary is upset about the means/methods used in that defense…. tough cookies. They shouldn’t have started a fight if they didn’t want to potentially find themselves in a no holds barred gutter brawl getting their eyes removed with a dull rusty spoon.
The world holds them to a higher standard. Especially when compared to their neighbors who aren’t held to any standard. I agree. Their only specialness is they are the only democracy in the middle east. There is a lot to criticize them about as there is for all nations. No one and no nation is even close to perfect.
Haha… such a typo. Need an edit or a delete button.
Well…
I dunno.
I think this may be well over-done.
Of course, I haven’t watched Tucker in a long while, but the evidence referred to doesn’t hold up with me.
He can interview anyone he wants.
And why not?
Many, seldom interviewed, and very interesting.
I watched Putin with great interest, it doesn’t mean anything more than a great interest. I need to be interested.
Who the fuck discussed if he is allowed to jackass?
What is being discussed is if he should.
Of course he is allowed to promote white supremacists.
The fact that he is doing so means he should have nothing to do with the right.
If you favor white supremacy you are far from being a patriot, christian or even human being.
That is some pretty harsh words.
As stated, I find the interviews of interest.
Or shall I live in ignorance? Is that the way others do it?
How am I to know anything about them otherwise?
Megyn Kelly is a lightweight, and she has been one all along.
She, Carlson, and Fuentes should simply be rejected, and labeled as the grifters they are, rather than “Republicans”. They do not represent the thinking of Republicans or Conservatives. They represent themselves.