Democrats Now Want to Defund ICE, Because Defunding the Police Worked Out So Well
“You’ve got a situation where our base is demanding more and more of us every day.”
The 2024 election was eight months ago and Democrats are once again demonstrating that they haven’t learned a thing. Despite the popularity of Trump’s immigration policies, Dems are considering trying to defund ICE if they win back the House.
This is all because of pressure from their increasingly unhinged base, which is now demanding violence in response to Trump.
Axios reports:
Incensed House Democrats plan ICE funding war
House Democrats, incensed at being repeatedly denied access to ICE facilities, are warming to the idea of using the appropriations process to force policy changes at the agency if they retake Congress.
Why it matters: ICE-focused protests and pressure from their grassroots are forcing Democrats to inch away from their instinctively defensive crouch on immigration. But there is internal division on how far to go.
- “You’ve got a situation where our base is demanding more and more of us every day,” said one House Democrat, speaking on the condition of anonymity.
- The lawmaker added that “a number of us have been told by constituents that we have to be willing to get shot” while trying to conduct oversight at ICE facilities and “be able to make news out of it.”
- Many Democrats are still scarred by GOP attacks on the #AbolishICE movement and hesitant to take steps that appear to be aimed at dismantling or downsizing the agency.
State of play: Just over the weekend, House Democrats in California and New York were refused access to ICE facilities in their respective states to perform checks on detained migrants…
Between the lines: A clash is already brewing over how far to go — with some progressives eyeing actual funding cuts as moderate border hawks draw a bright red line in opposition to that idea.
In the meantime, Senate Democrats are still pushing for ICE agents to be unmasked, knowing full well the danger this represents to them and their families.
The Hill reports:
Senate Democrats press ICE on uniform, mask protocol
A group of Senate Democrats are pressing Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) on the masking of officers not in uniform during its operations.
In the letter, sent to acting ICE Director Todd Lyons, the group of Democrats argued the masks and lack of uniforms have led to chaos in Los Angeles as agents have looked to make arrests. The letter also accused ICE of seeking to meet “arbitrary quotas” set by Stephen Miller, a key adviser to President Trump widely seen as demanding huge increases in ICE detentions.
“We write regarding the apparent widespread violations of historical norms and traditions in U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement’s (“ICE”) operations in Los Angeles and across the country by engaging in law enforcement activities—including arrests—without wearing identifying uniforms and while masked,” the lawmakers wrote.
“As ICE engages in unprecedented numbers of immigration raids across the country, reportedly in response to arbitrary quotas set by White House Deputy Chief of Staff Stephen Miller, it is crucial that ICE personnel not engage in conduct that is all but guaranteed to sow chaos and confusion and put law enforcement officers in danger,” the group added.
As I and others have pointed out, Democrats have never called for members of Antifa or campus anti-Israel radicals to be unmasked.
And to top it off, all of this is unfolding as ICE agents are being attacked by crazed leftists for simply doing their jobs, a policy that the American public voted for in November.
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Sorry, Dims. That ship has sailed.
“accused ICE of seeking to meet “arbitrary quotas” set by Stephen Miller”
Yep. The daily quota is 20 million illegal immigrants. Didn’t meet your quota yesterday? No problem. Try again today. Didn’t meet the quota today? No problem. Try again tomorrow.
Dramacrat idiots. (But I repeat myself.)
“Seeking to meet arbitrary quotas”
And what quota is NOT arbitrary? And, isn’t that part of the boss’ job, to set performance goals for his team?
We might have 40-50 million illegals in this country, they didn’t keep count
True.
The Axios piece is a month old, from June 11.
On its face, this would seem to be problematic, because the law is very clear that Congressmen are entitled to inspect “any facility operated by or for the Department of Homeland Security used to detain or otherwise house aliens”, at any time and without notice. ICE must obey the law; if it doesn’t then it has no right to enforce the law, or to exist at all.
So I was interested enough to follow the link, and here’s the first thing that immediately struck me:
Note those words I italicized. And as we read on, we learn that
The MDC is operated by the Bureau of Prisons, not the DHS, and I am not aware of any law entitling Congressmen to inspect prisons. Also, Mr Huerta is not an alien.
However the story in NYC is not so good:
Okay, this is a problem. The law specifically says they are entitled to inspect without notice.
It also specifically says DHS is not allowed “to make any temporary modification at any such facility that in any way alters what is observed by a visiting member of Congress […] compared to what would be observed in the absence of such modification”. Is putting “sensitive law enforcement items” away a “temporary modification”? Arguably it is, and thus the point of allowing them to inspect without notice is precisely to prevent DHS from putting such items away.
A few weeks after this story, i.e. a few weeks ago, we discussed here an incident where ICE Deputy Field Director Bill Joyce incorrectly told Congressmen Nadler and Goldman at the same NYC facility that they couldn’t go in because it wasn’t a detention facility, but he admitted that people were being detained there, so he was wrong, the law was being broken, and that is bad. Remember the law specifically says “detain or otherwise house“, so Joyce’s line is bullshit and he should be disciplined for it. And this was after the previous incident, so there was no excuse for ICE not to have looked up the law.
In case it wasn’t clear what I meant with the italics in that quote, the law allows congressmen to inspect the facilities where aliens arrested by ICE are being kept. It does not say anything about the prisons where Americans are held after being arrested for crimes they committed in anti-ICE protests. Even if ICE agents arrest them, they don’t keep them; they hand them over to local law enforcement or to federal marshals, and they’re outside DHS jurisdiction, and thus also of the law we’re discussing. So the congressmen are in the wrong there.
Which italics? Which quote?
The comment immediately above that one. Isn’t it obvious?
Milhouse | July 9, 2025 at 8:09 am
Milhouse | July 9, 2025 at 8:15 am
Are you not seeing both of these?
Not seeing the 8:09 one.
“Maybe LI shadow-banned you.” /Plisken
The way the WordPress native comment system works is that if a comment gets held for moderation by our system, it is visible to the author but is not actually on the website until the comment is cleared. Some people mistakenly think this is “shadow banning” but it’s just the way WordPress works. Depending on my availability to clear comments, it could be multiple hours until it is cleared.
What causes a comment to be held? Containing any link? Or only some links?
It used to be that if a comment was held for moderation you’d get a message saying so, and it wouldn’t appear to you either until it was cleared. That way you didn’t try to discuss it on the assumption that other people could see it.
I’m not seeing the 8:09 post.
I am now.
This is concerning. I wonder what happened, and how often it happens. Sometimes I post something and expect some kind of reaction; when none eventuates, should I suppose that it’s been shadow-banned?
On the Brennan post I posted a link to my friend buzzsawmonkey’s song Brennan Loves the Moors. Did anyone see it?
maybe he posted under a different name???
Fine. Defund ICE. The administration will just move those people to CBP, let’s say, and continue to enforce the law. Or, of course, they could just encourage the populace to round up the necessary folks. A reward here and there….
If Congress wanted to, it could defund any enforcement of the immigration laws. It could forbid the administration from spending any money at all on enforcement, and effectively shut it down, just as it has done with many other things it doesn’t like.
The pendulum went way too far left to a near lack of enforcement operations in the interior. Illegal aliens, their wokiesta NGO allies were showered in gov’t funds to support them while the public charge prohibition was.seemingly ignored. These lefty/wokiesta open borders/globalists got comfortable and complacent to the point they now feel entitled to the Biden era status quo. Tough cookies. As the late great Sony Bono said in response to a question about his stance on illegal immigration…’illegal immigration is illegal isn’t it’? The wokiestas can form a majority public consensus to change our immigration laws or elect a different POTUS with different policy priorities if they don’t like enforcement …but until then they gotta suck it up and deal with consequences. If they impede, obstruct, interfere ICE operations then arrest them, prosecute them vigorously and max their prison sentence.
“As the late great Sony Bono said in response to a question about his stance on illegal immigration…’illegal immigration is illegal isn’t it’?”
And that, my children, was the day Democrats realized they would never make any headway without once again summoning the heroes of The Euphemism Squad.
Ice Pigs
Is that a new animal?
Math is racist, so they couldn’t put the ‘=’ sign in there.
The demonrats are in a bind. How do they placate the radical base and appear to be reasonable. They can’t. The second problem is agitating for mask removal. That’s not going to happen. Because if their blind anger they can’t see anything but “orange man bad”.
They wouldn’t be wearing masks and hiding uniforms if you weren’t actively doxing them and leaking their raid plans.
You can’t hate DemoncRats enough.
We can win this war in 2 weeks. Release all illegal alien prisoners from custody and grant them immunity for all future acts. Then wait for the dems to cry Uncle.
Democrats don’t care about the voters.
Reminds me of Democrats restricting the Secret Service to ONLY Treasury crimes because they were too good at taking apart the Klan.
defunding the police DID WORK WELL
more black matriarchy was put in charge and their kids were given more room to destroy
its just allll. a matter of pov
come on
its just radical dems ( who the media and the uninformed ) think were at one time “moderate” peaceful ,for freedoms and so on
for those of YOU who use to vote dem and are trying to excuse away as
But the party left me I didnt leave the party
THATS SELF DELUSION at best
The left has alwaysssss been about government over the people
its that simple
you were fooled and now maybe you are past that…congratulations for that
it took djt to point it out to you and we got your vote in 2024 maybe even 2016..2020
but lets stop this self delusion that the dems at one time “fought” for freedom of speech
THEN AS NOW
it was ONLY for certain people that they wanted that
“The left has alwaysssss been about government over the people”
From die hard support for slavery to Wilson’s and FDR’s power grabs and expansion of the federal bureaucracy.
Well, too bad for them a bill was just signed into law that not only funded ice but massively increased the funding as well as funding a border wall and other priorities that they obviously hate.
It seems to me that the radical Democrats are being very undemocratic. ICE is Immigration and Customs Enforcement. This s enforcement of laws duly passed by Congress and signed by the President – all of which were elected. Abolishing ICE is in effect a call to ignore the will of the people as expressed by our elected representatives – very undemocratic.
That’s not a reasonable argument. Only Congress and the president can abolish ICE, so if it happens it will be the will of the people. It’s completely reasonable for ICE’s opponents to campaign for its abolition and to try to persuade the people and/or their elected representatives to abolish it, just as its supporters did to get it established in the first place. Either they’ll succeed or they’ll fail.
“Thanks, Alex. What is ‘sedition?’ “
One hopes they succeed.
It would show spineless Republicans that Congress doeshold the power of the purse.
Its a useless power ifnever
One hopes that they succeed
It would show gutless Republicans that they do have the power of the purse.