*UPDATE* New Spending Bill Fails to Pass, 38 Republicans Vote No
Unfortunately, it includes a temporary extension of the public debt limit.
*UPDATE* 7:03 PM ET:
The slimmed down spending bill failed to pass, even though it only needed 2/3rd of the majority to pass.
174-235-1: House defeats the revised temporary spending bill endorsed by President-Elect Trump to fund the federal government past Friday's deadline to March 14, 2025, to avoid a shutdown. 38 Republicans and nearly all Democrats voted No. 2/3rds vote was needed for passage. pic.twitter.com/JhQYMV0v8H
— Craig Caplan (@CraigCaplan) December 20, 2024
GOPers who voted no on new GOP spending bill: Bean (FL)
Biggs
Brecheen
Burchett
Burlison
Cammack
Cloud
Clyde
Crane
Curtis
Duncan
Fulcher
Good (VA)
Gosar
Harris
Hunt
Lamborn
Lesko
Lopez
Luttrell
Mace
Massie
McCormick
Mills
Mooney
Moore (UT)
Moran
Norman…
— Chad Pergram (@ChadPergram) December 20, 2024
Previous reporting…
The new spending bill, a continuing resolution (CR), is 116 pages instead of 1,547.
Out with the old, in with the new.
President Trump and the American public asked for change.
It's here. pic.twitter.com/qmr9jtIqlM
— House Appropriations (@HouseAppropsGOP) December 19, 2024
The House Republicans did not include the Democrats in the negotiations.
The bill includes disaster relief, public health extenders, Medicare, human services, extension of agricultural programs, and other matters.
The last section is “temporary extension of public debt limit.” That means it allows the federal government to borrow more money without raising the debt limit itself.
Yeah…yup. The bill amends Section 401 of the Fiscal Responsibility Act of 2023 until January 30, 2027.
Don’t you wish you could be like the federal government? Borrow, borrow, borrow…spend, spend, spend…never have to budget or pay anything back. Money machine go bbbbbbrrrrrrrrrr!
Anyway! Here are some points.
It’ll be hard for Democrats to vote no since the GOP kept in disaster relief and agriculture spending.
- FEMA’s “Disaster Relief Fund” gets $29 billion “to remain available until expended, of which $28,000,000,000 shall be for major disasters declared under the Robert T. Stafford Disaster Relief and Emergency Assistance Act.”
- The bill puts aside $1.5 billion “for economic adjustment assistance related to flood mitigation, disaster relief, long-term recovery, and restoration of infrastructure in areas that received a major disaster designation as a result of hurricanes, wildfires, severe storms and flooding, tornadoes, and other natural disasters occurring in calendar years 2023 and 2024 under the Robert T. Stafford Disaster Relief and Emergency Assistance Act.”
- It also gives $244 million for “operations, research, and facilities” for the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) to use as “expenses necessary related to the consequences of hurricanes, typhoons, flooding, wildfires, and other disasters” in 2023 and 2024.
- $744 million will remain available “to prepare for flood, hurricane, and other natural disasters and support emergency operations, repairs, and other activities in response to such disasters.” That includes the fixing of “authorized shore protection projects.”
- The bill includes $13,597,000 to cover protection of the homes belonging to Supreme Court Justices.
- The project to rebuild the Francis Scott Key Bridge gets $102,500,000
Rep. Chip Roy is correct:
JUST IN: Congressman Chip Roy (R-TX) delivers fiery speech against the GOP spending bill because it will "increase the debt by $5 trillion."
"You NEVER have ANY OUNCE of self respect. Go out and campaign, say you're gonna balance the budget, and then you come in here, pass $110… pic.twitter.com/8ZeXHe7kx4
— Eric Daugherty (@EricLDaugh) December 19, 2024
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You have to extent the debt limit because the budget would have to be balanced to avoid it, and we’re infinitely far from a balanced budget.
Actually they could just print money instead of borrowing it, but that’s so bad that it shouldn’t happen even with an irresponsible government.
Shouldn’t happen? It happens daily.
The way out is everybody gets 2% less than last year. A uniform but not outrageous scream decibel level.
OMG I think the world maybe coming to a end … I agree with RH….
2 percent cut …. awesome … I wud recommend 5% but I like blood in the streets.
I’m completely agreed on 5%….. More than that is being wasted on the HVAC of all those offices left vacant by “work at home” policies. Call ’em back and those who don’t show up are terminated (abandoned their job). The salary/benefit savings will get you right there, then physically downsize the office space for the rest.
I would find the caterwauling brought on by 10% reduction to be music to my ears.
Unfortunately, they would never do that. They consider a decrease in the expected rate of increase to be a cut, I can’t even imagine how they react to an actual decrease in the amount spent.
That’s close to the plan of cutting 1 penny from every dollar spent by the Government. The estimate is that it would balance the budget. Another way is to suspend the automatic increase in the budget that is built in and make Congress do it’s damn job by putting up an actual budget. As Rand Paul says, just break the thing into pieces and vote on separate bills. Have Bi Partisan committees for each Dept that negotiate a bill and then bring that to the floor after giving the members time to read it then re negotiate the parts people don’t like.
After which, each individual piece goes over to the Senate, where the Dems decide which parts they want to hold hostage.
It’s amazing how much money that can be pissed away in 116 pages. But these dim bulbs wanted a 40% pay raise.
For NOT doing their #1 job for 28 years.
It makes Niagra Falls look puny by comparison.
Gee that’s a STUNNING change!!
Boy, Democrats are just like Hamas aren’t they…and just as Hamas f88ked up the Middle East with October 7…Democrats f88ked up their politics by letting Musk take over the twitters! 😂😂
Way to go team! 😂
More theater; shut it down.
Still not great. Probably can’t get a smaller package passed. My advice would be a total take it or leave.it and shut the damn govt down if it fails to pass. There’s a mini sequestration that kicks in next year if no budget is passed. Make it clear that it is either this or sequestration. Force the d/prog to vote no and refuse to fund the govt. Call their bluff and let them deal.with the heat. The d/prog don’t have exclusive control of the narrative anymore with podcasts, X, web sites and alternate media.
And it failed. Trey Gowdy the establishment clown whining on TV already. The appropriations committee big spenders gonna cry and try to blame the populists instead of themselves for not getting bills passed via regular order. Heck the establishment had an offer to pass it with spending offsets but …nope they refused and brought this to the floor instead …and got defeated.
The real issue is that the establishment hasn’t learned to go to the 20 or so populist GoP members and get their approval before bringing things to the floor. Instead they pull this sort of thing and try to frame these votes as ‘must pass or the world ends’. The populists ain’t having it and good for them.
It is past time the establishment figures out they need the 20-25 populist GoP member’s support as much or more than the vote of moderate establishment tools.
Shut it down. Stop deficit spending. Stop adding to.the debt burden weighing down our Children and Grandchildren.
All I know is that if Biggs and Gosar voted no, there must be some real poison in it. These two guys are MAGA. See here for an example.
1. No offsetting spending cuts to fund the additional new spending
2. Waives debt ceiling for two years+
What has changed in the past few election cycles is more and more populist members who are actually serious about ending deficit spending getting elected. When it was a handful they had enough votes to.spare especially if they offered up some spending priorities (bribes) to a.few d/prog.
Today there’s a pretty consistent group of 20-25 members who are tired of it and willing to buck the establishment leadership over it. Instead of ignoring them the leadership needs to go to these guys and and get their outer band of what they can live.with and go with that to the floor to secure their votes. Obviously that didn’t happen and the establishment tried the same old extortion argument of ‘pass this or the world ends’. Didn’t work so now the establishment and their media buddies and opinion cronies will try to blame any increased spending and the potential shut down on the populists. They refuse to admit they had all year to follow regular order and pass the bills but chose to try and run the same predictable pre Christmas con game. Many in the public are finally starting to see this for what it really is.
Shut it down. Come back next Congress with a new POTUS and GoP Senate.
The debt limit has been used as a weapon by the Democrats to get increased spending. They have repeatedly threatened that unless the bill(which included increased spending) was passed the government would shut down. Without a debt limit ( which never limited the debt) the Republicans can cut spending simply by passing clean continuing resolutions over and over and dare the Democrats to shut down the government.
no debt limit – no deal
The debt limit should be abolished. All it does is allow either party to hold hostages, but in the end it always gets raised.
Correct. We didn’t even have a ‘debt limit’ for the first 150+ years of the Republic. Obviously, whatever its purported intent was, it didn’t do anything to control spending over the last 80-years. Instead, it’s been used as a cudgel by both sides to get EVEN MORE spending, at the last minute.
The debt limit should be enforced, not waived, set aside or raised to accommodate more spending.
The debt limit is probably required by the constitution.
The constitution does not authorize the president to borrow money. Not even one dollar. Only Congress can borrow money. But it’s not practical for Congress to do that; the Treasury is far more suited for the job. So the workaround has been for Congress to authorize the Treasury to borrow on its behalf. But the Nondelegation doctrine means that Congress can’t give the executive unlimited power; any grant of power has to have discernable limits. So Congress authorizes the Treasury to borrow in its name up to a specific amount.
I’m amused at the outrage of the Democrats, especially their hack leader Jeffries.
If they think this is bad, wait until after 1/20. There’s going to be so many cuts it’s going to look like the shower scene in Psycho.
The federal government needs to be significantly stripped of power and money – those days are not too far in the future.
From you typing to God’s ears. If only more republican politicians would stiffen their spines we wouldn’t have do this. “Oh disaster the government will shut down!” The MAGA answer? “Your terms are acceptable.”
I don’t agree with Thomas Massie on everything he does/says. But, his take on this debacle is a good one..
“This isn’t complicated. Separate the bills and vote on them individually. one vote on the clean CR, one vote on the debt limit, one vote on disaster relief, one vote on farm bailouts, Radical right?
Individual bills for each issue.”
https://x.com/RepThomasMassie/status/1869898463401415116
This seems like a very simple solution. One has to wonder why Johnson hasn’t thought of it himself…or chooses to ignore it.
I think little Johnson has no integrity and was bought out on day 1️⃣
Well, Trump really likes Johnson:
WASHINGTON — A triumphant President-elect Donald Trump huddled with House Republicans before their leadership elections Wednesday and threw his support behind Speaker Mike Johnson, a key ally, as the GOP prepares for unified control of government next year.
Endorsing Johnson, R-La., for two more years as speaker, Trump said he is “with him all the way,” using such words as “tremendous” and “terrific” to describe him.
Probably b/c those won’t pass without the ‘horse trading’ which really means additional spending and no offsetting spending cuts. What the populists in the GoP HoR are doing is forcing all the dirty laundry into the open.
The establishment would much prefer the opaque 1600 page last minute bill right before a deadline so they can vote for it while going home to say ‘golly, I didn’t want to increase the deficit but had no choice’.
The squealing in DC is coming b/c the populists in the HoR have shown the folks back home that there is a choice and the establishment big spenders absolutely HATE them for it.
It’s an indicator of logrolling. He has to put the sugar in the same pot to get you to swallow the sewage. If you get to vote separately on the sugar and the sewage, he loses.
Massie has been right on the budget spending for quite some time. Maybe now someone will listen to him.
Good, I’m damn tired of all of these things where they cram every possible thing into a bill in order to try to force things through that they couldn’t get otherwise. Massey’s got it right, put each separate item in the bill, make them all single issue with no amendments. If they can’t pass on their own merit, they shouldn’t pass it all. And I have no problem at all with shutting down the government for the next month until Trump takes office. It just minimizes the damage the Communist can do in the meantime
I have no direct evidence, but I believe the big bill was read and analyzed by Grok. I can’t recall this happening so quickly.
I asked Grok who’s been running this country that past four years and he said he didn’t have the faintest idea.
Sounds like an actual good use of AI
My evidence is that a few months ago, Musk said that Grok would be trained to read and summarize legislation.
Suddenly, someone reads and scuttles a massive spending bill.
I’m so old I remember when congressmen said they didn’t have time to read bills.
The Congress has done it to themselves by playing fiscal chicken with OUR MONEY for decades.
shut it down ….
shut it down till Jan 20th.
How strange that Johnson met behind closed doors with the House minority leader, The Senate Majority leader and minority leader for months and came up with a 1,500 page pork for everyone bill that was released just a few days before the “shutdown” thinking that everyone would vote for it to not get blamed. Unfortunately, it is not business as usual and the revolt was enough to get it pulled and it only took a day or so to come back with a 116 page bill. Why couldn’t he do that one in the first place by, say, last month and then negotiate in the open over that?
Johnson is not listening to the American people and what happened last month. In January he needs to be removed from the speakership.
“…it is not business as usual.”
There’s a new sherrif in town and they better get used to it.
If they were negotiating for months, then there was plenty of time for the congressional committees to go about regular business and write normal budget bills as prescribed by the Constitution.
Gotta pass it to find out what’s in it..
Where have I heard that before?
Yeah, FTS. No more.
Trump asked for and got a clean funding bill which is why no Democrat voted for it.
Lets see
Democrats voting in favor- ZERO
Think this might be bad for Democrats and good for the Republican side to keep the government funded with NO POISON PILLS? Think there might be a reason this is exactly what Trump and Musk wanted?
We have a deficit and will for so long as entitlements aren’t reformed with modern American work history and life expectancy factored in.
Like it or not that will not be dealt with by just refusing to pay the bill (although our currency may cease to be the reserve currency if we start refusing to pay our bills).
This is anything but a win. I really hope those grand standing pay attention to me people start showing more loyalty to Trump soon because the house will be extremely closely divided next session.
No offsetting spending cuts to pay for the additional spending would be a poison pill for me as would the two year+ waiver of debt ceiling.
Entitlement reforms (cuts) are gonna be a big part of getting to a balanced budget. No question about that. However, using lack of entitlement reform as an excuse to refrain from making needed cuts elsewhere or to demand offsets for new spending is part of the reason the debt keeps growing.
What do you think “Biden” is going to agree to cut in the last few weeks of their administration?
What is being cut by the way? It also is far from urgent to do a rounding error cut. The amount listed here is a rounding error and despite article tone the listed spending items besides the bridge are needed.
Danny,
‘What is being cut?’ No offsetting spending cuts were offered in the bill …that’s one reason it didn’t pass muster with the more populist members.
‘…amount (of new spending) is a rounding error’ This is how we got to $36+ Trillion in debt. If the amount of new spending is trivial then finding offsetting spending cuts shouldn’t be an issue.
‘spending items are needed’. Not the purpose of a CR to keep gov’t operating over the short term. If the funding is truly worthy then send it up individually as a stand alone bill for each item….but don’t forget about including offsetting spending cuts elsewhere to pay for it.
Biden ain’t running jack crap, his staff is. If they pass a clean CR and Biden chooses to veto it then the shutdown is on him.
Spending bill that actually passed is significantly worst.
110 billion to 330 billion…….think it may have something to do with the virtue signaling 38 leaving Trump with no choice but to make concessions to the Democrats?
We could have had 110 instead of 330 without any poison pills.
Now we have 330, and unknown poison pills.
That $330 Figure may be off. I think the AG spending was $10 billion and the Disaster spending was $100 billion.
In any event it was establishment decision not to bring a clean CR without any add-on to the floor. As late as this afternoon the plan was 3 separate bills not one combo bill.
Your attempt to blame the folks who consistently vote against increased deficit spending as the cause of the deficit spending is Cray Cray.
LI reported 330 billion and that is what I saw elsewhere to.
The total bill for the other one was 110 billion.
I really do not give a dam about their rhetoric I care about their results.
Trump delivered us a 110 billion version those 38 delivered us a 330 billion version.
I know I like Trump’s version a lot better even if there are none of the poison pills I suspect the other one had to put in to pass with the Democrats.
110 is less than 330 and that is the bottom line.
If you can’t get spending lowered because you are too busy virtue signaling you are useless at least in the field of spending.
Compared to the surrender it started at this is still a triumph for Trump and Musk.
It would have been a much bigger triumph if Trump wasn’t backstabbed by people who would rather virtue signal. They thought they could eliminate the spending and get a balanced budget if they made it clear Trump could only get it through Democrat votes……that would make them idiots.
What does that mean? It didn’t need 2/3 of the majority, it needed a 2/3 majority. Which is hardly “only”.
2/3 was never going to happen anyway, not without Dem cooperation. But this failed even to get a simple majority.
Very strange way of writing that. Actually, it is incorrect. As you say, it needed a 2/3 vote of all the members of the House and Senate not just the Republicans. The problem that many are pointing out is that the spending is not back to pre Covid levels but is trying to lock in the extraordinary spending spree that occurred during that time as regular spending going forward which surprises no one.
That only 38 Republicans voted no is disappointing
Looting the country has to stop or its over
“A pox on both their houses.” A pox on the US House and Senate too if they can’t abide by the Constitution.
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