Ta-Nehisi Coates: I’m Not Sure I’d View 10/7 As Going ‘Too Far’ if I Was a 20-Year-Old Gazan
“Tony Dokoupil was admonished by his own network for saying that if you take away the prestige, and the awards, Coates book could be found in the backpack of an extremist and here is Coates proving that exact point.”
One of the things CBS Mornings co-anchor Tony Dokoupil was ridiculed for by his woke critics regarding his interview with anti-Israel author Ta-Nehisi Coates was his suggestion that an extremist might have Coates’ book “The Message,” which contains an essay on his trip “to Palestine,” in his backpack.
“I have to say, when I read the book, I imagine if I took your name out of it, took away the awards, the acclaim, took the cover off the book, publishing house goes away, the content of that section would not be out of place in the backpack of an extremist,” Dokoupil said during the course of his back and forth exchange with Coates on September 30th.
The hard-hitting interview, where Dokoupil did what reporters are supposed to do in asking tough questions and challenging the premises of people in positions of influence and/or power, caused eruptions among some in the CBS newsroom.
Struggle sessions have reportedly been held by offended colleagues, where yelling, crying, and cursing are alleged to have gone on, all because Dokoupil committed the crime of engaging in actual journalism for a change.
In an update to this story, it will surprise pretty much no one reading this that Coates basically confirmed Dokoupil’s extremist backpack suggestion in another interview he did this week, this one with former “Daily Show” host Trevor Noah, who now hosts a podcast called “What Now?”
In it, they talked about the segment with Dokoupil, with Noah “flabbergasted” and outraged that Coates’ word wasn’t treated as sacrosanct by Dokoupil. As for Coates, he compared slavery to the so-called Palestinian plight before strongly implying that if he was a 20-year-old Gazan who had been through what he said Israel had allegedly put Palestinians through, he might not view the 10/7 terrorist attacks as going “too far” (transcribed from video):
“And I haven’t said this out loud, but I think about it a lot. Were I 20-years-old, born into Gaza, which is a giant open-air jail. And what I mean by that is if my father is a fisherman and he goes too far out into the sea, he might get shot by somebody off, you know, a side of Israeli boats.
If my mother picks the olive trees and she gets too close to the wall, she might be shot. If my little sister has, you know, cancer and she needs treatment because there are no facilities to do that in Gaza and I don’t get the right permit, she might die.
And I grow up under that oppression and that poverty and a wall comes down – am I also strong enough or even constructive in such a way where I say this is too far, I don’t know that I am. You know, I don’t I don’t. I don’t I don’t I don’t know that I am.”
Watch:
Ta-Nehisi Coates says if he was a Palestinian he doesn’t know if he would have been strong enough not to participate in October 7 and go around massacring Jews.
Of all the conflicts in the world, ask yourself why he became so passionate about this one. pic.twitter.com/DzHCr8UZoX
— Richard Hanania (@RichardHanania) October 10, 2024
As a side note, this also happened:
Trevor Noah says he was “angry” at CBS’s Tony Dokoupil for saying Coates sounded like an extremist. Noah then compares Gaza to the American Revolution: “If you remove America’s history…then it’s like, yeah, those people who fought against the British, they were terrorists.” pic.twitter.com/dloUdNfmVc
— Nicholas Fondacaro (@NickFondacaro) October 10, 2024
For reference, the full interview can be viewed here.
But back to Coates’ eye-opening admission, the facts, as you might suspect, are at odds with his lead-up to the question of whether he could view the atrocities committed by Hamas on 10/7 as going “too far.”
Conservative commentator AG Hamilton was among the many who called him out:
This is a perfect example of how Ta-Nehisi Coates’ entire shtick is based on ignorance/lies being used to justify hate and violence. And he counts on the audience not knowing any better.
As an example, there were 36 hospitals in Gaza pre 10/7, and Palestinians didn’t need a permit to go to any of them. They were controlled by Gaza authorities. The extent of their capability was completely reliant on Hamas’ allowance since there were billions provided by the international community to support those hospitals.
Yet here he invents a scenario that justifies the murder and rape of innocent people based on his sister not getting a permit to be treated.
The issues in Gaza were completely their own creation. The “open-air prison” myth is obviously nonsense. How did they build an entire military infrastructure including tunnels under every corner and weapons (inc rockets) in every other building if it was a prison?
Any restrictions were based on them electing a terrorist group that was devoted only to destruction and violence, including oppressing Palestinians, but TNC’s entire book just leaves that part out. Hamas isn’t mentioned. The reason for restrictions doesn’t exist in his world.
This is a perfect example of how Ta-Nehisi Coates' entire shtick is based on ignorance/lies being used to justify hate and violence. And he counts on the audience not knowing any better.
As an example, there were 36 hospitals in Gaza pre 10/7, and Palestinians didn't need a… https://t.co/46y2r239ob
— AG (@AGHamilton29) October 10, 2024
What a morally bankrupt individual. Never mind the false examples. Israel operated on the brain of one of Hamas’ leaders and saved his life (he had a tumour). He thanked them by organizing October 7th. https://t.co/SbeiTzbihH
— Gad Saad (@GadSaad) October 11, 2024
The law of wokeness dictates that if you see yourself as less powerful than your perceived foe—white America or Israel—you have no agency and thus no moral responsibility, including not to commit atrocities. Hence Coates thinks he may have participated in October 7. https://t.co/pb35cl52Bh
— Batya Ungar-Sargon (@bungarsargon) October 10, 2024
Trevor Noah says he's "angry" at Tony Dokoupil for asking Coates simple questions about Israel. Then, he compares Hamas's Oct. 7 slaughter to the American Revolution. We are seeing the normalization of pro-Hamas sentiment and pro-terrorism ideology in elite liberal spaces. https://t.co/jHxM59AzEK
— Corey Walker (@CoreyWriting) October 10, 2024
“Thou shalt not challenge this” – CBS News Race & Culture Politburo https://t.co/5BiYUP6B3N
— Guy Benson (@guypbenson) October 10, 2024
Timeline of Events
1) CBS News anchor: I can envision finding your book in the backpack of an extremist
2) Woke Mob: That’s racist
3) Ta-Nehisi Coates: I can envision myself butchering innocent Jews https://t.co/cCZ4DVsF89— Jerry Dunleavy IV 🇺🇸 (@JerryDunleavy) October 11, 2024
The important thing to understand is that, in the mind of left-wing racialists, anti-semitism is a nesting doll for anti-whiteness and, above all, anti-Westernism. They see what the Palestinians did to innocent Israelis and think, "I wish we could do it here." https://t.co/dp1xtFqawn
— Christopher F. Rufo ⚔️ (@realchrisrufo) October 10, 2024
Tony Dokoupil was admonished by his own network for saying that if you take away the prestige, and the awards, Coates book could be found in the backpack of an extremist and here is Coates proving that exact point. https://t.co/mvEhi0oztv
— Stephen L. Miller (@redsteeze) October 10, 2024
Bingo. Oh, and by the way, a friendly reminder:
I was against Ta-Nehisi Coates before it was cool to be against Ta-Nehisi Coates https://t.co/dGE71OiCc7 pic.twitter.com/1vQ81KUo6T
— William A. Jacobson (@wajacobson) October 11, 2024
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That’s right, brah … keep digging …
Slaughtering 1,200 captives, raping women and slaughtering babies is a war crime that no one should embrace. It’s evil comparable to the evil committed by the Nazis.,
The actions of the progressive fascists on our campuses point out the racism inherent in progressive fascism.
In prisons, one digs a tunnel to get away.
In siege warfare one digs a tunnel to go massacre people on the other side of the wall.
See the difference?
Dear Mr. Coates, Then neither you nor the 20 year old Gaza, are acceptable human being. You are admitting that both of you are barbaric scum. Sorry (not really) if the truth hurts.
Barbarity is the very nature of Islam.
“Join or be killed!”
House of Islam, dar al-Islam, or House of War, dar al-harb .
Every single CEO and Board of Directors of every company that has used Coates’ materials, paid for him to give seminars or who have donated to Coates’ organization should be forced to comment on his remarks, on the record. The question should be framed as such:
‘Mr/Mrs/Ms. CEO, can you explain to your shareholders and customers why this company, under your stewardship, would financially support a man who endorses the brutal murder of infant children, the rape and mutilation of women and the cold-blooded execution of hostages?’
Remember: “This is what anti-colonialism looks like.”
Colonialism was not all bad, many people did benefit from it, I am not saying conquerors intended such, just that in the end they did benefit.
I agree. India is a unified country, using the Parliamentary system of government and with English as one of their national language, because of the British Raj. I can’t imagine they want their principalities back with their petty powerful rulers.
First of all, all those places were conquered at a time before anyone in the world thought conquering places was bad. The people in those countries did not dispute the rightness of taking territory by conquest. After all, that’s how they got those places in the first place. They just didn’t like the fact that they’d met a conqueror stronger than them.
Second, in almost all cases 20th century European colonialism proved a net benefit to the local people. The worst exception was the Congo under Leopold, before 1908. Leopold’s crimes were comparable to those of Hitler. But in 1908 the Belgian people had had enough and took the Congo away from Leopold and ran it as a proper colony, and for 50 years it was a model colony, one of the best places in Africa. Then the locals got independence and turned it into a sh*thole.
Blacks want so badly to co-opt the Palestinian mindset.
It amazes me, the Biblical paralells in modern events.
The mortal enemies of the west have been trying hard to seduce american blacks for decades. They use innocent-looking pamphlets, bookstores, they’ve infiltrated school system, the press, the govt. They were unsuccessful infiltrating police departments — so they’ve arranged to stop prosecuting crimes, and defund the police. Then…. they’ll start from scratch and hire their own people. Look at Minnesota where the AG is Keith Ellison
I am pleased to report that today I continued my unbroken streak of not caring a whit what this guy has to say about anything. Please feel free to join me in my quest.
Well, sadly, he is influential.
The enemies of the west have understood the powerful multiplier effect of “the influencer” for a very long time — eg, Lew alcinder , Malcolm x, Muhammad ali others. Today Tucker Candace this guy others, politicians, startups . The mortal enemies of the west have essentially unlimited money.
Ta-Nehisi Coates is racist. Any questions?
Ta-Nehisi is coated with a think layer of prejudice.
Trevor compares our revolution to the terrorist palis. He’s less than a half wit.
Genetics, humanity continues to evolve. It is festinating how genetic research and archelogy is uncovering how, when and where humans have advanced. It is innate that there are winners and losers. Coate was left behind.
“The most effective lies are mostly truth.”
If it weren’t for those revolutionary era terrorists, Trevor Noah would still be picking cotton.
The network seems to hold the racist opinion that black people (and Kamala) are too stupid to be asked probing questions. Therefore, any interviews must only address softball questions that make the person look good.
But, you aren’t a 20-year-old cousin. You’re a dei higher there to fill a slot.
Gazan………
Bears repeating. Booker T. Washington in 1911, yet more applicable than ever:
“There is another class of coloured people who make a business of keeping the troubles, the wrongs, and the hardships of the Negro race before the public. Having learned that they are able to make a living out of their troubles, they have grown into the settled habit of advertising their wrongs — partly because they want sympathy and partly because it pays. Some of these people do not want the Negro to lose his grievances, because they do not want to lose their jobs.”
Ch. V: The Intellectuals and the Boston Mob (pg. 118) – My Larger Education, Being Chapters from My Experience (1911)
Coates exposed as a Jew hater, too.
It’s a message – “You can’t live here.” They feel they’re the most oppressed and the Jews had it coming.
If you wage a “Who’s more oppressed” rhetorical battle, that’s what you get from the other side.
They have a similar view of you as the barbarians, and on top of that they’re a couple of standard deviations down in IQ so are quite at home with it when it comes for forming ignorant mobs.
Hit them with a better framing. Who’s acting morally and who’s acting immorally.
If I were a 20 year of Gazan
If I were a Hitler Youth
If I were a Red Guard
If I were Khmer Rouge
If I were Antifa
If I were BLM
The key ingredient… hate.
Hate + low IQ + big ego.
I must be 100 years old. Increasingly I have no idea who on earth these newsworthy freaks are.
Age gives us the uncanny ability and wisdom to ignore stupidity on a grand scale.
Yes, Gaza is an “open-air jail,” only because it’s controlled by a bunch of rabidly genocidal, corrupt and evil Muslim terrorists, who were elected by, and, who are supported by, the civilian population!
Coates is vile and stupid, but, sadly, he is a wretched by-product of our dark times, and, of the cultural and moral stupidity and evil spread by Dhimmi-crats and leftist dhimmis, worldwide.
As the Israelis have frequently and fairly pointed out, if the Gazan, Arab Fakestinian Hamas leadership had been truly interested in peace and in the betterment of their people, they easily could have turned Gaza into a mini-Singapore or mini-Dubai, by now.
Instead, these pukes have squandered hundreds of billions of dollars of western and Gulf Arab oil wealth on building a corrupt terrorist state that is devoted to waging genocidal Islamic “holy war” against Israeli Jews.
Interesting that the vile and stupid Coates, and, his Dhimmi-crat brethren, can’t acknowledge this reality, and, that they completely absolve the Fakestinians of even a scintilla of agency, free will and personal responsibility for their behavior, their political choices and their ideological predilections.
One thing people like Coates have in common is negative publicity. He and the moron who wrote 1619 Projest BS and the idiot Ibram Kendi who also distorts history to the point it becomes a cartoon. They depend on hate to stay in the public interest. “The View” is the same thing. msnbc, the entire network, relies on hate to survive. I have never been sure if these people truly believe their own lies, but it keeps the money coming in.
It seems to me that Ta-Nehisi Coates’ defence of Gazan actions could also be used to defend the Holocaust. Does he see a distinction, or does he simply avoid applying his logic to that subject since the answer would prove even more controversial than his support for Hamas?
No. What makes the Holocaust unique is that the Germans had literally no reason to hate the Jews. The Jews were not their enemies. On the contrary, Germany’s Jewish population was productive and patriotic, and had absolutely no wish to harm Germany. Likewise the Jews of Eastern Europe had such a high opinion of Germans, based on how the German forces had treated them in WW1, that many of them refused to believe the stories that had started coming out about German atrocities; they thought it was anti-German propaganda exactly like the atrocity stories in WW1. Had Hitler done the sensible thing and embraced the Jews he would probably have won WW2.
cbs tells its people to not call hamas terrorists?
wtttttttttthhhhhhh
Truth be told he doesn’t have the balls to be in Gaza or to have partaken in Oct 7 th
He would and been bidding under a bombed out carem
“The “open-air prison” myth is obviously nonsense. How did they build an entire military infrastructure including tunnels under every corner and weapons (inc rockets) in every other building if it was a prison?”
Thanks. Now I have this running in my head.
America: Why were you looting the rail yards in Chicago?
Ta-Nehisi: I could not stop myself.
America:
Ta-Nehisi: You see, you have to understand — Chicago is an open air prison.
America:
Ta-Nehisi: You see, Illinois is an open air prison. And it’s been oppressing me for years. For decades. For centuries.
America:
Ta-Nehisi: You see, North America is an open air prison.
America:
Ta-Nehisi: The entire Western Hemisphere.
America:
Ta-Nehisi:
Coates is a vile, self-serving, grifter who would sell out his mother for whatever gain he seeks. That’s all the commentary needed for this pathetic excuse of a human being. This has been my assessment of him since the very first and last article I read from him. Any words other than pejoratives is way too nice for this twat.
Actually he’s right. If any of us were 20-year-old Gazans, having been subjected our entire lives to Hamas brainwashing, we’d almost certainly be terrorists.
Likewise 15-year-old Germans in 1945, who had been subject to 12 years of Nazi brainwashing, were mostly enthusiastic Nazis.
If you send your kids to most any American K12 school, or to most any American college,,
then your children will be taught that Coates and the White Fragility lady and Kendi are rational thought leaders.
Black American schoolchildren from pre-k to K-12 are virtually all taught to respect Ta-Nehisi Coates — his writings, his teachings, his speeches. School districts in Baltimore, Philadelphia, Chicago, St. Louis, Birmingham, etc., etc., etc.