John Kirby: ‘No Use in Responding’ to Vets Criticizing Biden’s Afghanistan Withdrawal
“A ‘handful’ of vets indeed and all of one stripe.” In other words, they don’t support Biden-Harris so screw them.
White House National Security Council communications adviser John Kirby needs to check who is in the email chain before responding.
Kirby sent an email meant for White House staffers but didn’t see that Fox News Digital was in the chain.
Kirby said it’s “no use” to respond to veterans critical of President Joe Biden’s botched Afghanistan withdrawal:
“Obviously no use in responding. A ‘handful’ of vets indeed and all of one stripe,” Kirby said in a “reply all” email chain Wednesday afternoon that appeared to be intended for White House staffers, but which also included Fox News Digital.
Fox News Digital had reached out to the White House earlier Wednesday afternoon regarding critical comments from four veterans, including Florida Rep. Cory Mills, who blasted Kirby for his Monday press conference that they said provided “cover” for the Biden administration’s 2021 withdrawal.
Included in that initial reachout were quotes from the four veterans, and Fox News Digital asked the White House if it had any comment to include on the vets’ blistering criticisms of Kirby and the White House’s handling of the Afghanistan withdrawal. The email chain was forwarded to White House staffers on the National Security Council, before Kirby replied to all on the chain that there’s “no use in responding.”
Kirby’s message was sent in error, with him following up with a Fox News Digital reporter, “Clearly, I didn’t realize you were on the chain.” Kirby sent the email while traveling with President Biden on the anniversary of 9/11.
The four veterans blasted Kirby for “deflecting” blame to Donald Trump, especially since a report from the House Republicans disputed “Biden’s claims that his hands were tied to an agreement made under former President Trump’s administration for the U.S. withdrawal from Afghanistan under an established deadline in 2021.”
The Biden administration had no plan to help Americans and allies in Afghanistan.
“The bottom line is that the Biden-Harris administration chose politics over strategy, and Kirby, who I wouldn’t trust to guard my grocery list, is now trying to cover for them,” Florida Republican Rep. Millstold Fox News.
Biden did not have to abide by the deadlines because top leaders told them “that the Taliban were already in violation of the conditions of the Doha agreement and, therefore, the U.S. was not obligated to leave.”
Even NATO allies disagreed with the timing. Col. Seth Krummrich, chief of staff for Special Operations Command, told the committee that Biden was going to leave Afghanistan no matter what:
The committee also found NATO allies had expressed their vehement opposition to the U.S. decision to withdraw. The British Chief of the Defense staff warned that “withdrawal under these circumstances would be perceived as a strategic victory for the Taliban.”
Biden kept on Zalmay Khalilzad, a Trump appointee who negotiated the agreement, as special representative to Afghanistan – a signal that the new administration endorsed the deal.
At the Taliban’s demand, Khalilzad had shut out the Afghan government from the talks – a major blow to President Ashraf Ghani’s government.
When Trump left office, some 2,500 U.S. troops remained in Afghanistan. Biden himself was determined to draw that number to zero no matter what, according to Col. Seth Krummrich, chief of staff for Special Operations Command, who told the committee, “The president decided we’re going to leave, and he’s not listening to anybody.”
Then-State Dept. spokesperson Ned Price admitted in testimony the Doha agreement was “immaterial” to Biden’s decision to withdraw.
The withdrawal led to the death of 13 soldiers:
- Sgt. Johanny Rosario Pichardo
- Sgt. Nicole L. Gee
- Staff Sgt. Darin T. Hoover
- Cpl. Hunter Lopez
- Cpl. Daegan W. Page
- Cpl. Humberto A. Sanchez
- Lance Cpl. David L. Espinoza
- Lance Cpl. Jared M. Schmitz
- Lance Cpl. Rylee J. McCollum
- Lance Cpl. Dylan R. Merola
- Lance Cpl. Kareem M. Nikoui
- Navy Corpsman Maxton W. Soviak
- Staff Sgt. Ryan C. Knauss
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Kirby has thrown away his credibility to Join Moe and Larry. Curly could go to the WH and perhaps stop speading propaganda, misinformation and extreme bias.
The Senate must approve all officer appointments to the military. Constitution, Art. II, sections 2, 3. For most officers (1st, 2d lieutenants. captains, major), the approval is done en masse. But for the “brass” (like the scrambled egg visor wearers) approval is individualized, sometimes involving hearings.
Kirby, believe it or not (based on his lick-spittle subservience to the Deep State), “rose” to the rank of a two-star admiral !!!
Two problems
1. He’s their commander in chief (good discipline and order and all that)
2. Vets get no special say.
A vet who thinks it was stupid but holds his tongue is a better soldier. That’s what all that drill is supposed to achieve. It’s not a good civilian trait but it’s a good military trait.
Saying in addition “I’m a vet and …” just compounds the betrayal. It’s like whistleblower status being claimed.
There was no big scandal, just something that didn’t work out well.
Of course, you missed the issue to spount low IQ nonsense. NOTHING to do with stolen valor. What an assinine connotation. Vets have every right to speak when they are no longer serving. Or should they give up their First Amendment rights? One vet is a Representative, but he should shut up because how dare someone criticize a WH mouthpiece caught doing something underhanded.
Stolen valor? I don’t see where that came from.
Vets have every right to speak on anything but not as a vet.
Not only low IQs make mistakes. Should have read, “NOTHING to do with whistleblower status.”
Vets have every right to speak as THEY see fit. And speaking “as a vet” only gets reprisals from the likes of Kirby and you, who seeks to dictate what is permitted. Low IQ.
Well that’s the thing. You don’t get to say charging the machine gun nest sounds like a bad idea when it comes up. That’s the drill with all those flag etiquette rules. Yours is not to reason why.
If the commander in chief is no longer your boss, you can say anything you want but not as a vet. Or you can, but it’s bad behavior. You can’t count on the military anymore, and maybe the military gets the idea that it can’t count on the military anymore either. It’s a sort of sabotage.
You are no authority on what people should say AFTER they return to civilian life and become vets. Who made you general? Will you next suggest a court-martial because they are betraying the military that you pretend owes them nothing.
I gave you the argument for it. It stands on its own or it doesn’t.
Respect for the military depends on respect for the military, especially internal respect.
“Respect for the military depends on respect for the military.”
Harris could not have said it better!
The argument fails because it is preposterous and, frankly, it’s anti-American to propose to forbid criticism for the reasons mentioned.
If you say f the commander in chief as a vet, it suggests you thought that way in the military, which implies that the military is not reliable. An order is given and it isn’t followed. The military itself notices what you say. “Maybe I should be thinking that too.”
Say anything you want but not “I am a vet and f the commander in chief.” Just as an ordinary citizen “f the commander in chief.”
“If you say f the commander in chief as a vet, it suggests you thought that way in the military, which implies that the military is not reliable.”
More low IQ nonsense assuming to know what a vet thought while serving. Ridiculous to the max.
Why don’t YOU say it as an ordinary citizen and stop trying to control what veterans express, as civilians who ARE veterans.
By the way, Milley was IN the military when he did exactly what you criticize. He received got a book deal.
Done with your silly “arguments” that are more an exercise to pretend you know more than you actually do.
“Vets have every right to speak on anything but not as a vet.”
What an absolutely stupid and foolish thing to say.
Jesus H. Christ. Tell me you never served without telling me you never served.
Get help.
You are literally insane.
” just something that didn’t work out well.” Unf**king believable And spewing this on 9/11 “when somebody did something.”
What didn’t work out well was mostly the complete and absolutely immediate collapse of opposition to the Taliban. The 13 deaths is just publicity standing in for it as a bad thing. It avoids cultural judging.
“The 13 deaths is just publicity standing in for it as a bad thing. It avoids cultural judging.”
This disgraceful statement is a slap in the face of the 13 families that now have an empty place at the dinner table. It’s a slap in the face of any family that has lost a warrior in these endless wars.
You mask your ignorance in a cloud of cynicism, and it fools exactly no one.
Which is why each one of your posts gets ratio’ed and you get taken to the woodshed.
You are, apparently, some sort of physicist or “intellectual,” from what I understand.
It’s just as likely that you’re just on the spectrum.
At any rate, just f**king stop with this garbage.
I’ll do my part by no longer responding to you, and I’ll start praying that WordPress comes up with a “Block” function.
I’m pointing out brainwashing. The 13 were doing soldier functions and they died doing it, along with about 800 others in active service that year. What’s special about those 13 is, to the audience for it, they were Biden’s fault, as if the other 800 weren’t. He’s commander in chief, everything is his fault.
As Patton said, your job isn’t to die for your country, your job is to make the other poor bastard die for his country.
The honor, actually, isn’t in being killed but in going when called. If you get killed, you get sympathy but not additional honor. You already had the honor.
Did you look at your watch in between words?
Biden has no humanity either.
Dear God, do you eat with that mouth of yours?
Kirby is a disgusting sh*tweasel. He’s a perfect Biden toadie.
By tomorrow there will be 51 “intel professionals” who will swear up and down that this has all the hallmarks of a Russian propaganda email.
Kirby:
1. What’s our position on vets? We don’t respond to vets.
2. That reminds mind me. We’re low on canon fodder. We need more people to join.
Vets?
Let them eat cake.
fair enough
so why does the gop respond to the communistnazis of the left and continue to give them aid in their welfare state agenda!!!?!?!?
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