Whistleblowers: Most of Trump’s Security Detail Weren’t Secret Service Agents
“In addition, whistleblower allegations suggest the majority of DHS officials were not in fact USSS agents but instead drawn from the department’s Homeland Security Investigations (HSI).”
Sen. Josh Hawley (R-MO) claims whistleblowers said that most of former President Donald Trump’s Saturday security detail did not belong to the Secret Service.
So the day someone attempted to kill Trump and killed one person and injured two others, most of the security detail weren’t Secret Service?
Hawley noted the allegations in a letter to DHS Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas:
According to the allegations, the July 13 rally was considered to be a ‘loose’ security event. For example, detection canines were not used to monitor entry and detect threats in the usual manner. Individuals without proper designations were able to gain access to backstage areas. Department personnel did not appropriately police the security buffer around the podium and were also not stationed at regular intervals around the event’s perimeter.
In addition, whistleblower allegations suggest the majority of DHS officials were not in fact USSS agents but instead drawn from the department’s Homeland Security Investigations (HSI). This is especially concerning given that HSI agents were unfamiliar with standard protocols typically used at these types of events, according to the allegations.
🚨🚨 Whistleblowers tell me that MOST of Trump’s security detail working the event last Saturday were not even Secret Service. DHS assigned unprepared and inexperienced personnel 👇 pic.twitter.com/eo4jNmJWFT
— Josh Hawley (@HawleyMO) July 19, 2024
Whistleblowers (don’t know if they’re the same as the ones today) have already alleged that Secret Service had “limited resources” at the rally due to NATO.
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And this 20 year old nutcase just happened to pick that day…
Right
DING DING DING!
dead men tell no tales.
Like Oswald
Who was allegedly shot by a man with terminal cancer. How convenient.
Such an AMAZING coinky-dink! /sarc
The revelations just keep getting progressively more absurd and Kafkaesque. Begrudging, tardy and Soviet Union-style disclosures. And, there’s still probably more of this excrement, to come.
Warning shot, more than likely.
It’s crap like this that spawns conspiracy theories.
And as we have learned, conspiracy theories have a funny way of turning into received wisdom pretty damned fast.
Clearly, TBTB were more than willing to reduce DJT’s security to the point where a Boy Scout troop would we more robust.
People need to be made examples of for malfeasance like this.
Reliable sources say the boy scout troop declined to provide protection when they were denied permission to come armed with their BB guns.
Cub Scouts use BB guns. Boy Scouts get to use .22s.
The story is believable. I’m no expert but watching the reactions of the detail when the shooting started they looked like people who were surprised to be shot at, and people not accustomed to working together.
I can see it, to some extent. A sniper unit doesn’t need to be Secret Service to do the job well. (Though, a police sniper team might hesitate and wait for approval where a USSS team might not.) Crowd control is very similar (along the spectrum of “how much”) no matter the agency to which you belong. Securing a perimeter is much the same, as long as you’re familiar with whole spectrum of requirements.
But, of course, if they’re pulled from all over, they don’t understand the same protocols, or know whom to call, or maybe even understand the diagrams with cryptic insider notations. It’s why the military (especially the Army) publishes little notebooks for EVERYTHING – so all the signals and map notations and procedures are “rock proof.”
Given the excuses and the possibly real reasons for this being a giant clusterfark, is anyone else seeing a similarity to Desert One ( Operation Eagle Claw, 1980)? Except maybe that the bosses were ok with it failing?
Practiced teamwork is also essential in any op. It was plain they didn’t have the practice. That was why it was easy to believe that these agents were drawn from elsewhere and put together at the last minute, even before this latest revelation.
The little noticed, but massive import here is that 25 years ago the questions being raised about this fiasco would never even be contemplated nor asked. We are witness to the inexorable collapse of confidence in our institutions.
It’s one of those phenomena that happens slowly and then all at once. I grew up in an era where the FBI, DOJ, USSS were heroic iconic organizations with unquestionable integrity. They squandered it all. Now I don’t trust any of them. Ever.
That’s our sad reality and it is, to my mind, hugely important. Lost credibility does not come back easily, if at all.
Sadly, that collapse of citizen/civic confidence in our federal institutions is linked directly to the rabid politicization and leftist biases of the top brass and upper management of core departments/agencies that were heretofore viewed as apolitical, or, at least, were not overtly partisan in their sentiments and behavior (e.g,, DoD, CIA, FBI; among others).
We did not have general access to information then like we do today. With every cell phone being a video camera, there are literally 1000 (or more) Zabruders at every event… And now those videos are instantly available to everyone with an X or Instagram account. Back when the alphabet agencies enjoyed public trust, that trust was based on only what they allowed us to see. As the availability of unauthorized information increased, that earlier trust decreased. A classic inverse relationship.
Last Saturday someone (lots of someones) saw something, and they said something. And nothing was done. We may have entered the “see something, do something” era. That officer who saw the shooter on the roof was armed; he would not have been wrong to take a shot when that rifle was (allegedly) pointed at him, rather than backing off. Just a thought.
The local police officer did not do anything wrong.
He was climbing a ladder and his hands were engaged with the ladder.
When the shooter pointed the rifle, he ducked and as a result fell from the ladder.
Promptly, the officer reported the event.
Actual story from the locals is one cop was giving a hand-up to the other cop, so the one who was threatened was actually hanging from the roof and not even on a ladder.
Of course, the ladder story was out there, too. And since we can’t trust what people tell us….
By now there should be plenty of video to confirm or falsify the cops-climbing story
Absolutely love that remark- As the availability of unauthorized information increased… Unauthorized information, aka as information.
The immediate scrubbing of the miscreant’s social media is because- it contained unauthorized information. In every single case involving the FBI or other 3 letter agencies. Doesn’t matter if the miscreant is alive or dead. They scrub it- like with a cloth or something. If the miscreant is alive- it’s privacy rights! Hey, news for the 3 letter agencies- it’s social media, public information, out there for anyone to see. Being taken into custody or deceased doesn’t make it private. And- public trust is eroded when everything about the miscreant is immediately hidden. Especially when the miscreant’s name and address and license number and everything else is known immediately by authorities and they withhold that until they’ve performed their scrubbing.
What don’t they want us to know? And why don’t they want us to know it?
They thought that they were safe as there was only one dude named “Zapruder” on the 2024 guest list. What they didn’t realize is that “Adams, Jones, Smith, Miller … and 2000 others also had their home movie cameras/cell phones” with them and running.
Now to explain why the first 3 shots had the interval latency between the ballistic crack/muzzle report at one value, and the next 5 shots had that interval at a different value. Things that make a scientist go “hmmmmmm?” Unless the temp suddenly dropped by 80 degrees and altered the speed of sound, I’m thinking …”
It’s the water tower shooter some people have been talking about.
Lost credibility does not come back easily, if at all.
Lost credibility NEVER “comes” back. You have to go out and chase it down and fight to bring it back. And lots of people won’t do that hard work.
The bigger problem is that the work has to be done by people who are obviously and indisputably honorable in the first place. It doesn’t matter “how hard” the crooks now running the place work, they’ll never restore their credibility.
Elliot Ness, call for you. Please use the red emergency phone.
It was the white emergency phone, before Trump used it.
Ein “Ach Scheiße” macht 1000 “Bravo Jungs” zunichte.
what stands out for me is the sniper with eyes on the shooter is allegedly ordered to stand down–by whom ?
the perimeter is obviously not secured as a guy with a rifle is perched on a roof and lining up on the stage/podium–let alone being observed climbing up on the building by several leos and citizens
besides alerting trump’s personal bunch immediately, the sniper’s other imperative is to eliminate the threat–and the shooter poses a lethal force threat not only to trump but all the other innocent attendees in range –why on earth ( or who? ) would order the sniper to stand down?
My sentiments, exactly, None of this passes the “sniff” test. The notion that an SS sniper (or, whatever other damn department he hailed from, possibly Homeland Security) is ordered to stand down in response to an obvious and imminent threat, until after he fires off a few rounds at President Trump and supporters, is absurd.
Exactly what this non-American cartoonist asks.
Mayorkas: “Impeach me, will they?”
Wow- It’s almost as if Trump was going to be in the same jail cell as Epstein.
Too many “oopsies” Gut every one of these organizations. FBI, CIA, SS, IRS.
“Never put down to conspiracy what can be explained by incompetence.”
I keep chanting that to myself.
And yet…
First the demonization… pretty normal to a point but it sure as hell crossed that point. So I was annoyed albeit no surprised.
What really upset me was the co-ordinated co-ordinated! Lawfare against a former president like we were Venezuela or the sad like.
When all that crumbled at the same time it was revealed that the Emperor has no brain… I relaxed a little.
I knew that the Democrats were desperate but I was naive apparently
When this assassin attempt came at just the right time for the Democrats.
(Had Trump died just before the R convention I honestly think ol’ Joe had his best chance to win – by arguing for stability. )
It was SO ineptly handled that I was shaking my head.
I just can’t satisfactorily explain this chain of events by coincidence and incompetence
IMO there’s a whole lot more colossal failures of gov’t being held off with bailing wire and duct tape. Not just gov’t, see the insanity with cloud strike. Redundancy matters. Competency and experience matter. In the end DEI nonsense undermines performance as does anything prioritized above core competency.
Sure saving a buck makes this quarter’s financial statement look nice but what about the intermediate and longer term? That’s when the crap hits the fan b/c a few distinct issues create a cascade effect and the DEI endorsing morons who are more concerned with looking good than being good are unable to prevent the catastrophe they engineered.
The bad news is that we have so many corrupt/culpable DEI appointees in place. The good news is that they are too stupid to actually pull off something bad. In the spirit of doubling down, every bad answer they give raises two more questions. Time to go long in Babylon Bee stock. The dem operatives are literally writing the stories for them.
Nah, it’s the doctrinaire Marxist progression for failure.
1) We operated perfectly, and did the best that anyone could do.
2) We did leave one vantage point unsupervised, but it was considered too hazardous for us OR a shooter to access.
3) We were tasked with too much work that day and had a shortage of personnel, so we provided official uniforms to some of our high-functioning intersectional janitors.
Still waiting for the next step:
4) Yes, somebody attempted an assassination, and here’s why that’s a Good Thing.
“Never put down to conspiracy what can be explained by incompetence.”
It’s generally a good rule. It’s a particular application of “Occam’s razor”, which says that “when faced with two competing explanations, choose the simplest.”
Usually, incompetence is a simpler explanation than conspiracy.
In this case, however, I am not sure it applies. There are so many events of incompetence that had to occur “just right” for this shooter to have, allegedly, gotten his shots off, that just “happen” to be so well coordinated, so many unexplained details, and such a failure of government agencies which have a history of bad faith, partisan conduct to follow regular protocols, that it is hard to accept it all as mere incompetence.
It’s so much that it makes me start to think that maybe conspiracy is a simpler explanation.
I wish someone would set up a website where the public could point all the issues out, and the curator would assemble them in logical fashion.
For example, one set of questions I have, that most seem not to be focusing on, relates to the remote controlled bomb found in the “shooter’s” car and the detonator found on his person. Did the 20 year old shooter have the skills to assemble these items (I would imagine not). If not, how, from whom, and when did he acquire them? If, as has been suggested, he meant to set them off to create a distraction, why didn’t this happen?
They don’t seem to fit with what we know of the shooter under the “incompetence” narrative. But they have a fairly obvious explanation if the shooter was set up as a patsy as part of a conspiracy.
That is just one example of at least a dozen.
There is no rule that says you can’t have both malice and incompetence.
A police officer was trying to get on the roof and Crooks pointed a rifle at him. So the officer jumped down and notified the the Secret Service. That happened 20 minutes before the shooting. Even if the SS couldn’t get Crooks off the roof, they should have stopped the event.
Someone, probably the FBI, profiled Crooks, gave him a job, and notified the SS. The SS knew an assassination was going to happen.
Joe Biden, Alejandro Mayorkas, and Kimberly Cheatle should be indicted for first degree murder. Christopher Wray is probably the kingpin.
“That happened 20 minutes before the shooting.”
Whoa, are you sure of this? Everything I read indicates that the shots at Trump occurred almost immediately after the cop let go of the roof. That makes perfect sense for a shooter who realizes he’s been made and has next to no time left to make his shot.
Has there been any real mention of the FBI in the detail at all? I haven’t seen anything, but FBI Pittsburgh has a SWAT team that’s used for a dignitary protection detail anytime anyone “important” comes to town. Like the AG or FBI director or Jill or Joe.
Here is a link that says the assistant director FBI were in the stands behind Trump at the time of the shooting:
https://x.com/RealHickory/status/1814267203228762324
Did he have an umbrella?
I wouldn’t be surprised if Trump’s personal security detail has justifiable orders to pummel FBI representatives on sight.
From the looks of it…. some team members were very good at securing several dozen donuts a day.
Hum…FBI says the 20 year old shooter has three encrypted bank accounts overseas? Next we will hear he was reading “Farsi for Idiots”?
But just enough to be able to start sentences, he didn’t need to learn how to finish them.
“Shooter’s Parents Unaware Of Secret Batcave Behind Son’s Funko Pop Cabinet!”
It’s the sort of detail nobody can independently verify, so we are expected to take it on faith, making it the best kind of lie, if it is one.
Myorkas is in charge of both Homeland and the Secret Service. Cheadle is the fall person. She knows it. I’ve read that she was told to say nothing to anybody. Myorkas is the one who the focus should be on. Who gave the orders to pull his regular detail? Who decided Dr Jill needed to do a rally in Pittsburgh? Who picked the replacements for President Trump’s detail? Who and why repeatedly denied more resources to President Trump’s protection detail? Simple questions for despicable people! FJB
“Who decided Dr Jill needed to do a rally in Pittsburgh?”
Bingo.
The narrative: Dr. Jill’s trip to PA caused the draw-down on DJT’s USSS protection detail.
The truth: The need to draw-down DJT’s protection detail caused Dr. Jill’s trip to PA.
Find the person who made that decision to send Jill to PA and you will put your finger on a person in the chain of command for the hit on DJT, whether he knew it or not.
As I mentioned yesterday, if this was an inside job, there are no coincidences.
“Once is happenstance, twice is circumstance, three times is enemy action.”
Auric Goldfinger
Assuming this report to be correct, we don’t know that it was just that day! Maybe they’ve been staffing his detail with ring-ins for quite a while.