Rep. Mike Rogers Flips, Will Support Jim Jordan for Speaker
Jordan still doesn’t have the Republican votes to win the Speakership.
Rep. Mike Rogers (R-AL) has flipped. He will support House Judiciary Committee Chairman Jim Jordan for Speaker of the House.
.@Jim_Jordan and I have had two cordial, thoughtful, and productive conversations over the past two days. We agreed on the need for Congress to pass a strong NDAA, appropriations to fund our government's vital functions, and other important legislation like the Farm Bill. (1/3)
— Mike Rogers (@RepMikeRogersAL) October 16, 2023
Since I was first elected to the House, I have always been a team player and supported what the majority of the Republican Conference agrees to. Together, our Republican majority will be stronger to fight Joe Biden’s reckless agenda for America. (3/3)
— Mike Rogers (@RepMikeRogersAL) October 16, 2023
Jordan does not have the 217 Republican votes needed to win a vote on the House floor.
Jordan can only lose four votes. Everyone knows no Democrats will for a Republican.
Rogers landed in hot water on Friday when he said Republicans should work with Democrats to get some to cross the aisle:
Rogers suggested Republicans might have to cut a deal with Democrats and called on Jeffries to spell out what concessions he would require to help the GOP elect a speaker.
“They put us in this ditch along with eight traitors,” the Alabama Republican said, referring to hardline GOP dissidents who toppled Speaker Kevin McCarthy last week. “We’re still the majority party, we’re willing to work with them, but they gotta tell us what they need.”
Rogers is the guy who tried to attack Rep. Matt Gaetz during the Speaker vote in January.
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I would love to have heard some of the phone calls he received from his constituents causing this flip. Guessing being primaried was brought up a lot 😉
which still might happen
Traitor is a strong word.
“”Traitor is a strong word.””
Which will, of course, be immediately applied to anybody voting against Jordan.
“Imbecile” would suffice.
Maybe the Rs will have to cut a deal with the Ds. Heckuva job, wingnuts. Ya held out for everything, and will get less than ya had. LOL
I haven’t read Patrick McManus in years, but he had a story reminiscent of your comment … his character Rancid Crabtree went to a gun show / swap meet with a classic rifle and by the end of the day had traded it for a fishing lure …
This is such grade school horseshit.
Bless your heart darling 😂😂 You do want Hakeeem to be speaker don’t ya 😂😂
Not one bit. If that happens, it will happen because the Republican Party has decided that suicide is easy. It will be their fault and no one else’s.
You must be new around these parts 😂😂Democrats will not do anything to help Republicans out.
Anything the Ds do will be for themselves. The only question is whether the Rs are smart enough to help themselves.
I didn’t see that in his comment. He simply stated what they would end up getting.
Cranking randomly, as usual.
At least I admit it, bucko. Yes, I regret to inform you that I am a mixed bag, and that I put my pants on one leg at a time. Could you please reveal your sercret method by which you achieved perfection? LOL
The thing is Republicans *should* work with Democrats…. wait a minute. Get away from the downvote button until I’m done. Anyway, there is legislation that is so obviously needed that any Dem in a contested election will have to vote for it. Stuff that should go through both chambers unopposed (although there are always a few Dem nutcases who will posture and screech). Excluding Gaza ‘refugees’ for example. The Dems are so blinded by hate that they will oppose legislation that a vast majority of their own base supports (but the wacko fringe hates). And exposing the Dems for what they are should result in a stronger Republican majority after the next election, with hopefully the Senate and Presidency too.
Exposing the Dems for what they are is already known. If Jordan fails which he probably will, then it is either McHenry with some added powers or McCarthy returns. As Republicans we know that there are immediate problems to be addressed. Democrats see only one problem needing remedy—the presence of Republicans. If neither ‘Mc’ is palatable to our caucus, then it is a coalition speakership with the commie libs. Or, leave the current status quo until January 1.
Look, you spoiled child, no one get everything they want. Now go stand in the corner.
Strangely, the Communists usually end up getting everything they want. Perhaps we should start analyzing their tactic and see how they do that
Feeling sorry for yourself, poor baby?
Better yet: Would you like some cheese with that whine? Damn, it’s been a long time since I said that to anyone but a brain-dead “progressive,” but it fits here. Grow up, kid. Life ain’t fair.
In light of this switch, DC Draino has called a truce and will not be making any more hairlarious jokes about his obvious wig.
A list of Republican fools who are not voting for Jim Jordan would be helpful.
And will be available, as soon as they take the rollcall vote.
They’ve been playing it very Coy to stay off of the record.
Don Bacon (NE-02)
Vern Buchanan (FL-16)
Tom Cole (OK-04)
Mario Díaz-Balart (FL-26)
Carlos Gimenez (FL-28)
Drew Ferguson (GA-03)
Frank Lucas (OK-03)
John Rutherford (FL-05)
Mike Simpson (ID-02)
Rob Wittman (VA-01)
Steve Womack (AR-02)
Same crop of RINO losers it always is whose names appear on every bill the Democrats passed as their ‘bipartisan’ cronies.
Four out of eleven are making me embarrassed that I live in Florida. But I’m not in any of their districts.
Now obviously IF they switch, the list may become outdated, but that was the list as of ~12 PM today.
This is a crucial moment. If they don’t make Jordan the speaker, it’ll be the political suicide moment. And for what?
I agree, yet too many GOP reps are just there for self-aggrandizement. These are trying times, and too much is at stake. Our so-called elites have no skin in the game; they are too comfortable in their own prosperity.
They’re believing their own press releases. Political amateurism at its worst.
They are politicians. That’s what politicians do. Never fully trust any politician. Their ‘job’ is first and foremost to yell enough people what they want to hear to convince a majority vote them into office. Their second priority is not getting voted out so in office they are very risk averse, avoiding an actual public fight over a core issue/campaign promise. A politician will go far out of their way to find or manufacture an excuse for failing to deliver their promises.
I have personal experience with politicians, and they’re not all that way by any stretch.
Can’t do jack shit in office until you win the election nor expect to do anything in the future unless you win re-election. Do you disagree with those two points?
Anyone who puts their full trust in politicians is a fool. I have worked for/with political figures on a daily basis and my boss was ‘good one’ but I saw him make compromises in order to get 1/2 a loaf. Sometimes it was a necessary comprise and sometimes he gave away the store for little to nothing. He was as honorable, moral and as good a person as we could hope for in an official elected to Statewide office but even he occasionally effed up.
‘Put not your trust in earthy princes’ continues to be a very relevant admonition. It’s one reason the MAGADONIANS frustrate me so much. No politician is infallible, they are all human possessed of the same weaknesses and frailties as everyone else. The higher you put them up on a pedestal the more they look down on you.
I don’t put “full trust” in anyone outside my front door. If that’s your standard for politicians or anyone else, as I can say is “join the human race.” On anyone’s best day, they might be three-quarters right. You go to war with the army you’ve got, and that applies to many things.
I don’t seek perfection, but I do want adequacy. Kill me now. LOL
Glar you agree with me about politicians not being trustworthy as a general rule with a few limited exceptions who have proven themselves but still bear close scrutiny.
As for adequacy its best that the HoR GoP caucus takes the time needed to get the best selection possible for Speaker under the circumstances. No need to rush to failure just b/c those outside the GoP are… gasp… critical of the internal deliberations within the caucus.
Thing is, their future is very much riding on the impressions of those outside their caucus. This is the deciding moment, right now. Either they get their shit together NOW and pick a speaker, or they can watch as independent voters turn away. All of us? Of course not. It never works that way.
But if they keep screwing around, they will be playing the politics of subtraction, and that’s just idiotic. I fully realize, as does a very big chunk of the voting public, that the media are largely partisan hacks for the Ds, but even with that discount factor applied, they’d better pick Jordan or they’re going to be hurting big time.
There WILL be a speaker. If this fails, there’s going to be some “bipartisan” pick who’ll be there at the sufferance of the Ds, or in more vulgar terms, will be their bitch. I actually WANT the Rs to get their act together, but we shall see. This pissing, moaning, and crying does them no good, nor does it do the country any good.
The Ds are a joke. Now will the Rs be a joke, with only a different punchline?
If the Rs reject Jordan and McHenry gets in there with D help, that will make the Republican Party the Democrats’ bitch. And, like all whores, the Rs will have no one but themselves to blame. It’s a long way from the cliff to the rocks below, kiddos.
How long have you been a consistent GoP registered voter and contributor of campaign money and time open doing the phones and beating the local precinct to support the GoP?
Indy and d/prog voters can have and express whatever opinion they want about the GoP, at least so long as we’re still a mostly free Nation. What you shouldn’t expect is anyone inside the party to pay a whole lot of attention to that opinion.
All the unnecessary appeasement of folks outside the GoP and the HoR GoP caucus in particular is why McCarthy got removed from being Speaker. We can’t have a Speaker whose first instinct is to listen to what the critics outside the GoP Caucus, much less outside the party have to say about our policy priorities. Everyone outside the GoP can have their input on election day and choose to support GoP policies or the disastrous d/prog policies of open borders, trans ideology, rampant inflation, massive additional Federal debt, high fuel costs, over regulation and so on.
I’m independent, like half the country. Committed Rs and Ds are 25% each. I’m a former D who left them a decade ago but didn’t go R because “one burned, twice shy.” I’ve been edging toward them, and definitely am more conservative than liberal on the issues, but the Republican Party is just as much a laughable and tragic circus as the Democrats are.
Neither party can win elections without that 50%. If all they do is talk to themselves and then pull utterly stupid, juvenile shit, they hurt themselves. Both sides are playing the politics of subtraction. Bill Clinton and Ronald Reagan played the politics of addition. It baffles me that I’d have to even say this to anyone.
I agree with much of that and inside the tent the view isn’t very pretty either. However at the end of the.day comes decision time for voters. They can only do one of three things in ’24
1. Support GoP nominee and down ballot
2. Support d/prog and down ballot
3. Stay home/vote 3rd party candidate both are effectively the same choice as no 3rd party candidate can win the Presidency.
I suppose one could choose chaos and just split ticket vote in every other race or something equally weird but also equally ineffectual to avoid taking a responsible position to prevent the d/prog from gaining/holding power and wielding that power to implement destructive policies.
So your options are this;
Vote Republican
Vote Democrat (or third party or stay home which are effectively the same as voting D).
Trump made enough of a difference in 2016 to shake things up and actually deliver a period of peace and prosperity for America and its allies. However apparently for the big thinkers out there this isnt enough, something about once bitten twice shy shit.