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Hamas Threatens To Start Executing Civilian Israeli Hostages If Israel Doesn’t Stop Bombing Gaza

Hamas Threatens To Start Executing Civilian Israeli Hostages If Israel Doesn’t Stop Bombing Gaza

Al-Qassam Spokesperson Abu Obeida: “Every targeting of our civilians without warning will be met with the execution of one of our enemy’s civilian hostages”

A Hamas spokesman has threatened to start executing Israeli civilian hostages kidnapped by Hamas during its attack on Israel if Israeli does not stop bombing Gaza.

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The hard fact is that these hostages are already dead. They just haven’t stopped breathing yet (as far as we know).

    Dimsdale in reply to txvet2. | October 9, 2023 at 1:39 pm

    Agreed. Counter their “offer:” Continue to pulverize Gaza until the hostages are returned. Make it more detrimental to take hostages.

    Start at the border an work south, carpet bombs etc. Push them deeper into the Stone Age.

      JohnSmith100 in reply to Dimsdale. | October 9, 2023 at 2:03 pm

      Complete blockade, cut off everything, switch to thermobaric bombs. Do the same for Iran. No mercy, embrace collateral damage as a good thing.

      Yep. Go full Inigo Montoya (The Princess Bride): “Offer me anything my heart desires. […] I want my father back, you son of a b*tch!”

      Context [and spoiler warning]: Inigo’s character arc is a classic “revenge” quest. But when he faces the six-fingered man who murdered his father, instead of his story ending with his realization that, “There’s nothing you can do to bring my father back, so seeking revenge is pointless,” it goes the other way.

      To whit: “There’s nothing you can do to bring my father back, so there’s nothing that can save you.” The six-fingered man gets his comeuppance, and Inigo walks away with zero regrets. It had to be done, and he did it.

      If any of the hostages are killed, justice for the killings should be Israel’s goal and purpose with regards to Hamas.

      “I want my people back, you sons of b*tches!”

    Peabody in reply to txvet2. | October 9, 2023 at 1:47 pm

    The hostages are not bargaining chips in this war. This is total all out war. No matter what Hamas does, or doesn’t do, or threatens to do—-the hard fact is, they are TOAST.

    And, as Timothy McVeigh would say, there will be significant collateral damage.

    This is sad news, but it is a given. Israel needs to attack Hamas with overwhelming voice. If they can save some hostages, great, but ultimately it is about removing Hamas as a threat in the future.

      JohnSmith100 in reply to EBL. | October 9, 2023 at 8:16 pm

      Iran, the snake’s head, should be decapitated.

        CommoChief in reply to JohnSmith100. | October 9, 2023 at 8:47 pm

        First Hamas, then Hezbollah in Lebanon, then Iran. But first of all is ensuring that they have cleared Israel of active terrorists and locking down the borders to make sure, as sure as they can anyway, that no terrorist cells exist to shank them from behind when they turn their full attention to Gaza.

    diver64 in reply to txvet2. | October 9, 2023 at 4:16 pm

    Unfortunately, I believe you are correct.
    Scorched Earth with no mercy. This infection has gone on long enough.
    Kill them all and let God sort them out.

    JohnC in reply to txvet2. | October 9, 2023 at 8:29 pm

    Came here to say exactly the same thing.

Fat_Freddys_Cat | October 9, 2023 at 1:37 pm

And if Israel does stop? What then? I think we know.

Maybe I can get a comment to actually show on this and related threads.

    Whitewall in reply to Whitewall. | October 9, 2023 at 1:53 pm

    well what do you know!

    inspectorudy in reply to Whitewall. | October 9, 2023 at 2:55 pm

    It’s on your end because as far as I can tell they never block anyone.

    The Gentle Grizzly in reply to Whitewall. | October 9, 2023 at 4:23 pm

    Nothing in any of your comments have, as far as I can see, warranted you being suspended or tossed off.

      I think maybe it is some of the overseas sites I visit- Russian mil bloggers, Ukrainian on the spot artillery and drone operations and the like. Maybe I pick up some problems there. Too bad. I tried everything I could to link an article this am from a go to blog based near DC with top notch Middle East info including a map with locations where the Iran Hamas attack came from and how…

Anyone in public life who still thinks this is about self-determination and liberation, etc., cannot be taken seriously ever again.

Dearborn needs redevelopment.

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Hamas Iran coordinated attack, hostages = ISIS

“Abbas urged Macron to intervene to stop the “Israeli aggression”, either conducted by “the occupation forces or the settler groups against the Palestinians,” the official news agency WAFA reported.”- Yup, all of the Palestinian leadership are terrorists and are working together.

Hamas apparently open to a truce. “Let’s be friends.”

I have to say, I’m seriously depressed at the widespread expressions of support for the genocidal Hamas terrorist-thugs, in the west, including in the U.S. and in the U.K. — especially among the thoroughly indoctrinated young people, who’ve gullibly swallowed the contrived and fallacious propaganda mythologies of alleged Arab Muslim “Palestinian” victimhood and grievance, hook, line and sinker.

There is a pervasive moral and intellectual rot at work, here, that needs to be addressed and confronted.

We’re witnessing the same attitudes of vilification and dishonest rationalizations that excused away the Holocaust, when it was happening. “Jews had it coming; Jews brought this upon themselves;” etc.

    AF_Chief_Master_Sgt in reply to guyjones. | October 9, 2023 at 2:45 pm

    But JR has a great Muslim cardiologist who saves his life. Thus negating anything Muslims do to either support or ignore their terrorism.

    But I’m glad JR has a great Muslim cardiologist.

      The truly “radicalized” Muslim doesn’t kill or desire to kill the infidel. At least we hope so. Considering that Quds forces are in the US… via the “closed border” plus all of those tens of thousands of military age (trained) “immigrants” not permitted across the border… Gaza has come to the USA. The Biden admin knows this and fears the Iranians… hence the bribes.

        alaskabob in reply to alaskabob. | October 9, 2023 at 2:52 pm

        “now” permitted across the border

        InEssence in reply to alaskabob. | October 9, 2023 at 11:37 pm

        The goal of most religions is beatitude (happiness), but the goal is Islam is world domination. The torture, killing and so forth will continue as long as you oppose their objective. Ask the Kenyans, Sudanese, Indonesians, Nigerians, or really any one who lives in one of the 55 countries of Islam.

      healthguyfsu in reply to AF_Chief_Master_Sgt. | October 9, 2023 at 3:25 pm

      It’s not a monolithic bloc. This crap says more about you than anyone else.

        gonzotx in reply to healthguyfsu. | October 9, 2023 at 3:45 pm

        It pretty much is

        See all those protests by Muslims in the West and America AGAINST Hamas and the Palestinians?

        I didn’t think so

        caseoftheblues in reply to healthguyfsu. | October 9, 2023 at 4:13 pm

        For true actual followers of Islam… it pretty much is… well with the nuance of some committing the atrocities and some just cheering and sending funds

        AF_Chief_Master_Sgt in reply to healthguyfsu. | October 9, 2023 at 4:13 pm

        Whatev

        You keep doing you.

        Arminius in reply to healthguyfsu. | October 10, 2023 at 3:31 pm

        Islam by definition is monolithic. There is only one man’s opinion that matters. Every other human being who has the misfortune of being Muslim has only one option. Blind obedience.

        Surah 4:65 “But no, by your Lord, they can have no Faith, until they make you (O Muhammad SAW) judge in all disputes between them, and find in themselves no resistance against your decisions, and accept (them) with full submission.”

        Disputing a one of Muhammad’s decisions is an act of apostasy. If I had more time I’d look up the volume, chapter and hadith number (It’s in one of the two Sahihs, either al Bukhari or Muslim) of what happened to one man who had been arguing with his neighbor over who could irrigate his date palms first and for how long. Muhammad came along, issued a decision, and moved on one man felt the decision wasn’t fair and went to Muhammad’s second in command, Abu Bakr, to appeal.

        As soon as Abu Bakr discovered the man was questioning one of Muhammad’s rulings without a word he went into his tent, came out with his sword, and beheaded him.

        I feel sorry for Muslims as they are the first victims of Islam. I saw a pathetic mini-debate that took place on Egyptian TV between a couple of distraught journalists and a cleric regarding child marriage. The journalists knew the practice was barbaric and surely there had to be limits. No, no there aren’t.

        Surah 65:4 “And those of your women as have passed the age of monthly courses, for them the ‘Iddah (prescribed period), if you have doubts (about their periods), is three months, and for those who have no courses [(i.e. they are still immature) their ‘Iddah (prescribed period) is three months likewise, except in case of death] . And for those who are pregnant (whether they are divorced or their husbands are dead), their ‘Iddah (prescribed period) is until they deliver (their burdens), and whosoever fears Allah and keeps his duty to Him, He will make his matter easy for him.”

        There is no lower age limit for vaginal intercourse in Sunni Islam. It was a disgusting exchange. The cleric was extremely crude. As long as the girl could “withstand the c**k” then the husband can have intercourse with her. After all, Muhammad married his favorite wife Aisha when she was six. Of course her father, Muhammad’s best friend Abu Bakr contracted the marriage on her behalf. They didn’t consummate the marriage until she was nine but that wasn’t out of consideration for Aisha’s welfare. She fell ill and all her hair fell out. Although Muhammad liked little girls, apparently he wasn’t into bald little girls. He wasn’t waiting until she reached puberty as many Muslims suppose (after all, a man can divorce his child bride before she reaches puberty according to the Quran). The commentary in Sahih al Bukhari makes it clear that she was still playing with dolls when she was brought to the “prophet” so he could do the deed and only prepubescent girls were allowed to play with dolls. Adults, and a girl who reached puberty was considered an adult, could no longer play with dolls as they were considered graven images. Muhammad was simply waiting for her hair to grow back.

        I wanted to smash that smug cleric’s face in. He was being crude in order to insult the journalists knowing full well that they couldn’t question him without condemning their own prophet and Allah himself. They only had two choices; submit as the Quran demands or sign their own death warrants on national TV. They shut up.

        BTW, there is a lower age limit in Shia Islam. The girl has to be 9 like Aisha. But given that all of Islam operates on a lunar calendar that means the girl could actually be 8. But in both sects one can contract the marriage with the father as soon as the girl is born, and the husband has the right to gratify himself sexually with his child bride in any other way except through vaginal intercourse.

        All the important decisions have been made. Not just in terms of marriage, sex, the second class status of women, but also questions regarding the conduct of war.

        What do you mean Islam isn’t monolithic?

      Who’s “JR?”

2smartforlibs | October 9, 2023 at 2:27 pm

This has nothing to do with a Palestinian state like like saying you want New England as a state. These savages including those in Congress want this religion wiped out and will not stop until one of the other is.

Dresden for Gaza.
Sometimes you just have to eliminate the enemy by all means.
On the bright side, Gaza has great beachfront property.

All of us feel like total annihilation of the murderers and razing Gaza to dirt, but this will only be a temporary measure. These people live and breathe killing Jews of every age and sex. Basically, the entire Muslim world would have to be eliminated to even think that they have been wiped out. Israel’s retaliation will only create more terrorists and hatred if that’s possible. As long as the Middle Eastern countries have oil, they have worldwide leverage over the free world. Without it, they are back to the tribal nomads they once were. Is there an answer to this? If there is I do not know what it is. Total retaliation will do nothing but kill ordinary Arabs who most likely had nothing to do with this massacre.

    LeftWingLock in reply to inspectorudy. | October 9, 2023 at 4:06 pm

    I Believe that many (most) of the key ME countries have moved beyond that. For example, Saudi Arabia and Egypt. The Saudi’s for example are on their way to establishing a relationship with Israel. There isn’t a single ME country that was willing to take Gazans as refugees. One last thought: who do you think Saudi Arabia hopes wins this was?

    Ironclaw in reply to inspectorudy. | October 9, 2023 at 7:14 pm

    Take care of the current problem, then let the next set step up and volunteer

    CommoChief in reply to inspectorudy. | October 9, 2023 at 8:53 pm

    Eliminating the threat of Gaza provides more security to Israel. When Gaza is part of Israel without any PA or Hamas that flank is now far more secure than at present. Sometimes object lessons are even more important for those observing b/c it alters their potential actions as well.

    JohnSmith100 in reply to inspectorudy. | October 9, 2023 at 8:54 pm

    Setting a good example, via razing.

    Arminius in reply to inspectorudy. | October 10, 2023 at 4:04 pm

    Of course Muslims live and breath Jew hatred. There entire religion is a screed against all other religions. Christianity, too, but as it says in Surah 5:82,:

    “Verily, you will find the strongest among men in enmity to the believers the Jews and those who commit Shirk, and you will find the nearest in love to the believers those who say: “We are Christians.” That is because among them are priests and monks, and they are not proud. ”

    Jews are singled out for a special brand of hatred. Chapter 1 of the Quran is the Fatiha prayer, also known as the cursing prayer. It’s short, only 7 verses long. The final two verses are:

    “…Guide us in the right path, the path of those whom You blessed; not of those who have deserved wrath, nor of the strayers”

    Those who deserver Allah’s wrath are the Jews, those who have gone astray are the Christians. The Fatiha prayer must be said every time Muslims pray. So five times a day Muslims curse the Jews and hristians.

    Muslims want to bring about judgement day. And there’s one thing Muslims can do to hurry that day along.

    Sahih Muslim: “54 The Book of Tribulations and Portents of the Last Hour

    (18)Chapter: The Hour Will Not Begin Until A Man Passes By Another Man’s Grave And Wishes That He Was In The Place Of The Deceased, Because Of Calamity

    Abu Huraira reported Allah’s Messenger (ﷺ) as saying:

    The last hour would not come unless the Muslims will fight against the Jews and the Muslims would kill them until the Jews would hide themselves behind a stone or a tree and a stone or a tree would say: Muslim, or the servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me; come and kill him; but the tree Gharqad would not say, for it is the tree of the Jews.”

    Yup. A special brand of hatred. And there isn’t anything we can do to make the Muslims hate us all more, or anything we can do to make them hate us less. They hate us because they are commanded to hate us.

So I read the offer on the table let us continue killing your people, or we’ll start killing your people. I’d say the only answer is a complete blockade of absolutely everything.

    The Gentle Grizzly in reply to Ironclaw. | October 9, 2023 at 4:31 pm

    Speaking of blockades: whose navy will blockade and/or sink EU ships providing aid? We all know it will come to that, as the EU just did a 180 on stopping aid to Hamas or the Palestinians or whoever. I can’t keep them all straight.

In the 1980’s when hostage taking was all the rage among the cool kids terrorist groups, one of those groups kidnapped 4 four Soviets. When one of the hostages was killed the KGB got involved, snatched a bunch of Lebanese prisoners and started sending them back one piece at a time. The Soviet hostages were released and that was the only time that Soviets were kidnapped by terrorists.

That will definitely convince the world that Hamas are the good guys. They are evil from central casting

Daniel Greenfield over at FrontPageMag has one of the best and most succinct essays on what happened. And, he’s right, as his essay’s title states — “This is not about Israel; it’s about Islam.”

Israel is simply a canary in the coal mine. Secular democracies have been dealing with Muslim supremacists and terrorists since at least the 1970’s, across all regions of the world, and, these reprobates have not been dealt with in the way that the should’ve been dealt, with, as the Allies dealt with the Axis powers in WWII. Add utterly contemptible and feckless dhimmitude, media dishonesty and propaganda and Leftists’/Dhimmi-crats’ usual penchant for embracing totalitarian ideologies and rationalizing their pathologies, and, this is how we’ve arrived at this current moment in history, where Muslim terrorism and the massacres of Jews are now gleefully cheered on in the west, by many Muslims and by their useful idiot, dhimmi collaborators and enablers.

https://www.frontpagemag.com/this-is-not-about-israel-its-about-islam/

As with the US Embassy takeover by Iran…. which should have been an end to this…. but as a hostage issue Israel should be ready to level all of Gaza if a hostage is murdered. The US should have given Iran 24 hours to return the embassy hostages or face destruction. Israel can no longer wait to deal with Iran.

I’d like to see the vile American Dhimmi-crats and European, Leftist dhimmis, defend the execution of hostages,

“Well, the Jews have oppressed the ‘Palestinians,” so, they’ve been forced to resort to the same barbarism, belligerence and savagery that they’ve been inflicting on Jews and non-Muslims since Islam was founded.”

Israel’s response should be that for every hostage killed, they drop a nuke on Gaza.

(Please note that Israel is believed to have a number of tactical nukes of limited power that would have minimal collateral damage to nearby areas in Israel, many of which may now be vacant for good.)

    guyjones in reply to Eric R.. | October 9, 2023 at 3:46 pm

    Thermobaric bombs achieve nearly the same destructive power, without the negative cachet that nukes bring to the table.

    Evil Otto in reply to Eric R.. | October 9, 2023 at 4:07 pm

    Repeatedly nuking territory next door is a bad idea. Fallout doesn’t respect borders. As guyjones points out, thermobaric bombs are nearly as good without the radiation coming back at you

Israel needs to continue its assault as if this threat to kill hostages was never made. Doing otherwise will only strengthen Hamas’ hand and provide encouragement to continue taking hostages.

The fact is these terrorists are cannot be reasoned with, and any peace while they still exist is only temporary and fragile. Killing them without mercy is the only sensible choice.

Unfortunately, the hostages are already dead, remember Munich ’73? Israel must enter Gaza and kill every Hamas person there is. This time finish the job. No ceasefire, no pause, no negotiations just kill them all. That will save future hostages from being taken. That is the reality of what needs to be done and should have been done before.

    Agree with objective results, but a tactical comment …. building-by-building warfare will kill a lot of Israeli soldiers. I would enter Gaza and call in an airstrike on any building encountered from which they receive fire – rinse and repeat.

    Where is Brandon’s air force on the 11 Americans dead and unknown captives?

      txvet2 in reply to jb4. | October 9, 2023 at 6:18 pm

      Like most rats, they’re hiding underground. Blowing up buildings won’t solve much unless they collapse and/or seal up the tunnels and let the rats die in their own self-made graves.

      Ironclaw in reply to jb4. | October 9, 2023 at 7:22 pm

      You don’t honestly think Brandon the pedophile gives a crap about dead Americans do you?

People should remember what this sudden barbarism is about. Iran is using it’s proxies Hamas and Hezbollah to try and get Israel to retaliate. This is designed to try and unite all Muslim countries and stop normalization of diplomatic ties between Saudi Arabia and Israel.
Since Iran has been arming Yemini terrorists with missiles which are lobbed at Saudi oil refineries I doubt The House Of Saud will play along. Too bad Brandon has destroyed the US-Saudi relationship to such an extent that we have no pull.

Wikipedia defines the Middle East as “a geopolitical region encompassing the Arabian Peninsula, the Levant, Turkey, Egypt, Iran, and Iraq.”

Fine. Glass it. ALL OF IT. No quarter, no exceptions. Turn it all into a softly glowing hole.

Feeling sad for the hostages, already suspect many are going to be tortured and or killed.

Hamas is as bad as the Nazis ever were.

To my way of thinking, and I’m old enough to remember all the back to the Six Day War, Yom Kippur war, etc., this is a different Hamas we’re seeing. One of the first things that I noticed in watching the horrifying video of the first couple of days, is that these are just not Palestinian Hamas, but they’re drawing from other parts of Africa as well.

Second, the butchery is on the scale of Isis. What is happening to the hostages — the crying children in cages really tore at my heart — and the terror they’re going through, may God be with them.

This is not a war where the Israelis are going to be responding to calls for cease-fire. This time, they know they have to completely wipe out Hamas and those who support them.

Hopefully, this is not going to expand into a wider conflict.

Biden – BBQ and MIA – says it all.

    wendybar in reply to jb4. | October 9, 2023 at 6:24 pm

    Hold on. He’s going to Philly on Friday to brag about Bidenomics….

      Ironclaw in reply to wendybar. | October 9, 2023 at 7:24 pm

      In other words the pedophiles going to Philly to brag about what a crappy job he’s done and how much worse he’s made life for the average American

The EU pledged yesterday to stop funding the Palestinians. Today, they’re already backing off that pledge.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/eu-backpedals-on-announced-aid-cut-to-palestinians/

Actual headline from Forbes, which they later deleted:

“Hamas Threatens to Execute Israeli Civilian Hostages for UNPROMPTED ATTACKS ON GAZA.”

I’m speechless.

https://twitter.com/ChayaRaichik10/status/1711495623009063222

Al-Qassam Spokesperson Abu Obeida: “Every targeting of our civilians without warning will be met with the execution of one of our enemy’s civilian hostages [emphasis mine]

Hamas just admitted their held hostages are civilians. They targeted and kidnapped non-combatants.

By international laws of war — and by ANY measure of morality — the conversation should be over.

But we can count on the U.N. Human Rights Council and MSNBC to issue platitudes about why Hamas isn’t at fault for any of this.

Must-read essay from the sagacious and inimitable Victor Davis Hanson:

https://amgreatness.com/2023/10/09/reflections-on-israels-new-existential-war/

Why don’t the Harvard students agree to be exchanged for the hostages? Sounds like a win-win.

Iran knows that Biden and the Dems are so desperate to have a “negotiated settlement” with Iran that no amount of mayhem will stop it. The future will be so peaceful that what’s a few thousand lives lost? What has Blinkin given up for this mess… nothing…as he parties on.

I believe that in the past a comment of mine was blocked. Not obscene or violent, but “politically incorrect.”

Question that would be interesting to see a post by Legal Insurrection or discussion on: What can be the end game for Israel, assuming that there will be no meaningful military action by the USA?

IMO there will not be a dime going to Ukraine before Israel now. Adequately supplied, Israel can take care of its neighbors. But what about Iran? If Iran pays no significant price this will just happen again in “X” years. (It may anyway.) Absent nuclear bombs, could Israel destroy Iran’s nuclear capability? How useful would it be to bomb all of Iran’s oil facilities, depriving it of its major revenue source?

    From the article cited below, the words of Robert Greenway, the director of the Washington-based Heritage Foundation’s Center for National Defense, who was a senior intelligence officer at the Defense Intelligence Agency:

    ““We had cut off their oil sales to the point where they were averaging 400,000 barrels a day at $55 a barrel, and so they were no longer able to sustain their military growth or sustain the level of funding for the surrogates and proxies.

    “That was our going-in proposition. We were going to create a trading imbalance. We were going to prevent them from funding all the programs that threaten the United States and our partners and allies in the region.”

    “I think if we had more time to do it, we could have brought about something approaching an economic collapse or at least economic paralysis,” he said. “We probably started too late, so this may be a different discussion.”

Interesting take, with the sense of accuracy. Energy is the way.

“Trump’s Iran Advisor: Biden’s ‘Flying Dutchman’ Foreign Policy Brought Us Chaos”

https://redstate.com/mccabe/2023/10/09/trumps-iran-advisor-bidens-flying-dutchman-foreign-policy-brought-us-here-n2164874

Now where could Hamas have got the idea that Israel will give anything to save hostages? How about from the fact that successive Israeli governments, including Netanyahu’s have done exactly that, over and over, always leading to the same, utterly predictable results.

When Netanyahu couldn’t say no to Gilad Shavit’s family, he knew that the deal would result in hundreds of dead down the track. He pretty much openly acknowledged it. But he didn’t have to look those people’s families in the eye, so he knowingly spent their lives in order to get Shavit back. Well, now that has come to bite him in the bum.

Re: Those who insist that all Moslems are our enemies, Daniel Pipes, who is an actual expert on the subject, says only about 20% are; the other 80% are not our enemies, but we could make them our enemies if we do stupid things like threaten to nuke Mecca.

Also remember that Netanyahu repeatedly voted for the disastrous withdrawal from the Gaza Strip, and the expulsion of 10,000 Jews from their homes purely because they were Jewish — something that if any other country did would be regarded as a flagrant breach of human rights — until the very last minute, when it had been finally approved and no further vote was needed; only after that did he make a huge show of resigning from Sharon’s government in protest, trying to have it both way. He shares responsibility for everything that has resulted from that decision, including this.

Capitalist-Dad | October 10, 2023 at 9:14 am

Seems like a terrorist thing to do. Yet, state media (ABC, NBC, CBS, PBS, MSNBC, and even Fox News) refers to the Palestinian filth as militants, the mob, and similar soft euphemisms.