Biden Administration Considers Plan to Force Illegal Immigrants to Remain in Texas [UPDATE: Gov. Abbott Responds]
It is well known that Democrats have been trying for years to turn Texas blue. Is that what this is really all about?
The Biden administration is apparently considering a plan that would attempt to force illegal immigrants at the southern border to remain in Texas. This is actually being sold as a way to deport people who fail asylum screenings more easily.
This is amazing, and not in a good way.
NEW: LA Times' @Haleaziz with a scoop, reporting that the Biden administration is considering forcing some migrant families who cross the border illegally to remain in Texas, limiting their ability to travel within the US, as bipartisan criticism grows.https://t.co/b3qkwtWoIE
— Bill Melugin (@BillMelugin_) September 7, 2023
The Los Angeles Times reported:
Biden administration considers forcing migrant families to remain in Texas
The Biden administration is considering forcing some migrant families who enter the country without authorization to remain near the border in Texas while awaiting asylum screening, effectively limiting their ability to travel within the United States, three U.S. officials told The Times.
Administration officials have been considering the idea as a way to stem recent increases in the numbers of migrant families crossing the southern border, which reportedly reached an all-time high last month. Supporters of the remain-in-Texas idea, which has yet to be finalized, hope that it would help the administration advance its goals of quickly deporting families who fail initial asylum screenings and deterring other families from crossing in the first place.
But the proposal, which recalls President Reagan’s efforts to limit asylum seekers’ movements in the late 1980s, is likely to draw fierce opposition from immigrant rights groups and border-state officials. Since 2022, Texas Gov. Greg Abbott, a Republican, has bused thousands of migrants out of his state to Democrat-run cities such as Los Angeles, New York and Washington, D.C.
Does anyone believe this spin on this? Isn’t it more likely that the Biden administration is trying to relieve the pressure being put on them by Democrat mayors and governors in blue states that are now beginning to feel the pain of Biden’s border policy?
Is Biden finally building a wall?
He's gonna build a border wall. https://t.co/GnC6wszMHA pic.twitter.com/nF4ZQ3Jy84
— Jon Gabriel (@exjon) September 7, 2023
Haha, they’ve finally found a border worth enforcing. https://t.co/QKQc1pldqZ
— Mary Katharine Ham (@mkhammer) September 7, 2023
On top of this, a judge has just ordered Texas to remove their floating barrier in the Rio Grande.
Federal judge orders Texas to remove floating barriers aimed at deterring migrants on Rio Grande
A federal judge ordered Texas to remove floating barriers in the Rio Grande and barred the state from building new or placing additional buoys in the river, according to a Wednesday court filing, marking a victory for the Biden administration.
Judge David Alan Ezra ordered Texas to take down the barriers by September 15 at its own expense.
The border buoys have been a hot button immigration issue since they were deployed in the Rio Grande as part of Gov. Greg Abbott’s border security initiative known as Operation Lone Star. The Justice Department had sued the state of Texas in July claiming that the buoys were installed unlawfully and asking the judge to force the state to remove them.
It is well known that Democrats have been trying for years to turn Texas blue. Is that what this is really all about?
UPDATE
FS: Governor Abbott reacts to this shady plan.
Biden considers forcing migrant families to remain in Texas.
This scam was tried years ago & was shot down by a judge.
We will send Biden the same swift justice.
And, we will add even more buses of migrants to Washington D.C.https://t.co/732FdGZ8jB
— Greg Abbott (@GregAbbott_TX) September 8, 2023
Rather than securing border, Biden admin considers requiring million of illegal alien invaders to remain in Texas, which could utterly destroy the state. https://t.co/kH8CorC4Gj via @YahooNews
— Tom Fitton (@TomFitton) September 8, 2023
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Move the border fence to Oklahoma.
That would make them slaves if forced to stay. Dems never stray far from form.
“effectively limiting their ability to travel within the United States”
Legal research is needed on this, but there is a line of USSC cases holding that restraint on travel is a no-no.
Maybe for legal or natural born citizens, but for illegal aliens?
You act as if the Communists can tell the difference between the two
It would have to be checked. There are citizens, legal residents, legal visitors, and illegal visitors, and the decision could draw the line anywhere. After all, the “right to keep and bear arms” is limited to only the first category, despite the Declaration being quite clear that these things are rights of all men, not just right of citizens.
Hence the absurdity of everything this regime does. If they’re illegal (unlawfully present) they shouldn’t be in this country in the first place.
What a laugh! By definition illegal immigrants don’t care about any laws about borders. Why should a law keeping them in Texas work… unless it is aimed at the government of Texas?
Keep in mind that that might have been true before the Biden era (or maybe the Obama era). Since then, there are a lot of people who came due to the realpolitik: they know that Biden welcomes them in, despite what the law says on paper, he’s waiving the law for them.
Better Idea, let the consequences fit the policies as Gutfield pointed out. You want open border live with he deportables, you want no bail crime the cops drop the bad guys off in your neighborhood.
I’ve got a crazy idea. Let’s force them to stay in Mexico. I know, I know. But remember I said it was crazy. On the other hand it might just be so crazy it could work.
Texas practically IS Mexico at this point.
One purpose of forcing them to stay in Texas is to intensify the burden on Texas. Sending some of them to NYC, IL, LA was a relief valve. The lefties want to cut that off.
Right answer.
This is a way to appease people like the NYC Mayor and others in blue states that are feeling the pressure now.
Punishing the red border states makes it a two’fer for them, two wins with one action.
I see an Abbott press release on the way: “You can’t even enforce your own border, I’ll be damned if you’ll enforce mine.”
Maybe they Mexico can fly the illegal immigrants directly to NYC.
“Sure, come on in. Everyone’s welcome….you just have to stay in Texas though.” – Joe Biden.
Progressives aren’t even bothering with the pretense of lawful behavior anymore.
Nope. Just ignore any of these lunatic, illegal immigration “plans and programs” emanating from the Biden regime and keep bussing the illegals to all those Sanctuary States & Sanctuary Cities. In fact, now is the time tyo double down and step up the bussing of illegal aliens. Keep the pressure on Chicago, New York City, Los Angeles and all the rest of the sanctimonious NIMBYs until the Biden regime agrees to a plan that will stop the illegal flow of aliens across the southern border and not just concentrates them in a few disfavored southern states.
Let’s Go Brandon! FJB!
A small distinction perhaps, but I think he’s not able to stop Texas from running buses. What he can do is tell migrants — with their extremely dicey legal status that he created by letting them sneak in — that they’ll be in trouble if they get on the buses.
It’s impudent. It takes a weird mind to think of this.
>>A small distinction perhaps, but I think he’s not able to stop Texas from running buses.
Want to bet? If you don’t remember the Biden regime just used a 124 years-old federal law (Rivers & Harbors Appropriation Act (1899)) to force Texas to remove the buoy barrier placed in the Rio Grande river. So I’m more than sure there is a building full of liberal democrat law interns scouring federal law for that one gotcha federal law that they can use to prevent Texas (or any other state) from shipping illegals across state lines. Guaranteed.
>>What he can do is tell migrants — with their extremely dicey legal status that he created by letting them sneak in — that they’ll be in trouble if they get on the buses.
Yes, the Biden regime could do that. But what difference does that make at this point. They are already here illegally. The Biden regime cannot keep track of all of them. Or even a small fraction of the illegals. So even if the illegals aren’t bussed they’re gonna end up spread across the country and the Biden regime will be none the wiser for it. Guaranteed.
If he can stop illegals from being shipped across state lines, Texas should be able to stop the flow of Californians at the NM border, right?
Why not? The current Secretary of Commerce stopped the flow of New Yorkers across the Rhode Island border when she was governor, during COVID, and nobody said boo. They don’t share a border, either.
“fierce opposition from immigrant rights groups and border-state officials. Since 2022,”
They are ILLEGAL ALIENS
NOT immigrant!!!!
The GOPe is so complacent. It is like they want this. Oh wait, they do.
Get rid of Abbott and bend over for Biden.
More than complacent they are using lawfare to get rid of the AG who soundly defeated Jeb Bush’s son in the last election and who is for secure borders and election integrity.
The fact that Bush could not be elected is no big deal. Who needs silly votes and democracy when you use lawfare to get rid of your political opponents.
I watched a bit of the impeachment trial. One of the Bush allies was testifying about going to the FBI to have Paxton investigated. After several attempts defense counsel got this toady to admit that they went to the FBI without ANY evidence of wrongdoing. They just felt he was probably doing something wrong. Of course, there is STILL no evidence produced of wrongdoing just promises of its coming.
The Bush crime team is actually worse than the Bidens since they are responsible for thousands of Americans needlessly killed and maimed and hundreds of thousands of people in Iraqis.
From all indications, Paxton is going to avoid conviction, but this still points out a huge schism in the Texas Republican Party that has frustrated conservatives for years. We have the same problem the national GOP has – certain “moderate” districts keep sending “moderate” reps to the legislature and they’ve maintained control of the process, in conjunction with Democrats.
Yep when conservative voters were joined by blue collar Democrats to elect Reagan the establishment saddled him with HW Bush and of course the Dems still held the house which they had from 1932 till 1994 except for one brief period.
In 2010 the regular people scared the hell of the party machine when the Tea Party fueled massive GOP wins in Congress and State Legislatures.
The party went into full attack to crush the deplorables and were totally shocked by Trump’s victory in 2016. Since then they have joined with the Dems to restore control of the government to those loyal to the new world order and will use lawfare, election rigging or any other under handed device to regain and retain power.
And murder, don’t forget the murder…
They are not moderates
They are democrats faking they are republicans
You DO understand the reason for the parentheses, right?
Quotes, not parentheses. It’s late.
So stupid. Why call yourself a sanctuary anything if you keep a “wall” up keeping sanctuary seekers out? The optics fool no one.
It’s way past time someone told this insane tyrant NO.
He’s been told no several times.
What is needed is someone to force no upon him (and the cabal that actually runs things).
Hmmmm. Perhaps the Dementia in Chief has forgotten the 10th Amendment. Additionally, once here, Biden’s Bunglers lose track of them anyway. Thus, he doesn’t know who or where they are.
Also, if they are free to roam until their court date in 2079, how is he planning to keep them from crossing the state borders?
So, if you want to keep them in Texas, put the illegal invaders onto Military Installations. The local towns don’t need them or want them.
Even Hispanics don’t want them in their neighborhoods.
Neither do the military folk.
I am glad you caught my tongue in cheek remark about military installations. We definitely don’t want them.
And they would complain that it feels like jail
Can Biden actually do this? Can he tell someone in Texas not to cross a state line? It’s interesting that Reagan did something like this, the guy who approved the last illegal alien amnesty. How did he justify it legally?
If the president prevents Texas from defending their own southern border (with Mexico) via federal preemption, and then also seizes control over their borders with Louisiana, Arkansas, Oklahoma and New Mexico, what is the meaning of statehood?
Arguably, they’ve pushed Texas into de facto secession. If they can’t/won’t do the one big thing the Constitution says the states give up for entry in the Union….
Given how this administration has really gone out of its way to screw Texas, I think it will be interesting to see how Ted Cruz does next year in his reelection bid. In 2018, he won against Beto O’Rourke in an election that was WAY too close, winning by only 2-points. In fact, exist polling showed that Cruz actually lost the native-Texan vote to Beto. If it weren’t for so many conservative Americans moving to Texas to live in a nominally conservative state, Texas would have already turned blue. We’ll see how this border insanity hurts (or God-forbid helps) Democrats in Texas.
So the American border has less integrity than the Texas border? Get real.
Even if Biden can’t do this, or it’s very arguable, all he has to do is scare the migrants so they won’t voluntarily get on buses. This is lawfare against Texas via the migrants that he ships into Texas across its border with Mexico.
“” a judge has just ordered Texas to remove their floating barrier in the Rio Grande.””
Apparently the 5th Circuit has granted an emergency stay.
Time for a 100 bus “migrant” caravan from DFW to Boston.
When something works, double down.
Rehoboth Beach in Delaware.
No. I would immediately place each and every illegal immigrant on a bus for D.C. I would have ten thousand busses lined up, ready to go. And then another ten thousand. Allow the District of Columbia to house, feed, and clothe a million illegals. Let Biden suffer the political consequences of his failure to uphold the laws of this nation.
The Left is doing everything it can to trigger a civil war.
To address the questions whether the executive can prohibit residents from crossing state lines, the answer is a resounding “No”.
But that is not really the question. It is already constitutionally mandated that the executive must faithfully execute federal law, to which he must swear during inauguration.
But this administration is already ignoring federal law, and in fact is actively and purposefully violating it with his wholesale nullification of immigration law, law that has been on the books for decades.
He could continue on his illegal path by forcing illegal aliens to remain in TX, but there is no enforcement mechanism. The ankle bracelets only keep subjects in control by virtue of their respect for authority. Ask any janitor for the Greyhound Bus line; they will tell you that they sweep up broken ankle bracelets from their bathrooms all the time.
The aliens/probationers/ankle bracelet wearers go buy a ticket, wait until 10 minutes before the bus leaves, go into the bathroom and cut off their ankle monitor, get on the bus, and they are in the wind.
The only thing of value that Biden might accomplish with his unconstitutional order is to steel the resolve of Texans to get the heck out of the Union. If they make a substantive effort, I will move there.
Erronius
I thought you said you’re not a lawyer. I’m only playing but hope you are right.
>>To address the questions whether the executive can prohibit residents from crossing state lines, the answer is a resounding “No”.<<
Two words. Federal Court. If the Executive is told it doesn't have the authority to prohibit residents from crossing state lines they'll simply find a compliant democrat federal judge in whatever district necessary to make the appropriate legal decisions giving Biden the authority to do just that. And if you doubt that just remember that the Biden regime just used a 124 years-old federal law (Rivers & Harbors Appropriation Act (1899)) to force the state of Texas to remove they buoy barrier from the middle of the Rio Grande river. If they can do that then nothing is legally safe from the democrats. They can do whatever they wish with impunity.
They spelled “Mexico” wrong.
Two thumbs up.
Wanna put a stop to all this?
Just infiltrate the various caravans and groupings of illegals with people carrying Trump signs.
I guess the person giving the Thumbs Down doesn’t realize that if the Biden administration came to believe that Trump supporters were entering the country, it would do its best to try to stop the flow of illegals.
Supply them with “Trump 2024” t-shirts. The Democrats will have Antifa down on the border cracking heads.
If the Biden administration can’t stop illegals from crossing Texas’ southern border, how can it stop them crossing Texas’ northern border?
And if they can stop illegals at Texas’ northern border it becomes obvious they could stop them at Texas’ southern border but don’t want to.
The Dem party is all about inclusiveness, correct?
Why are they only trying to stop “families”? Why not single men or pregnant women?
Seems terribly exclusive to me.
As far as I’m aware the pedophile in Chief has no authority to limit travel inside the United States
In a country with not rule of law, and no functioning Constitution that limits the actions of the Executive Branch in its actions; authority is what they seize.
Subotai Bahadur
Texas is a theocratic right wing hell hole. If this happens Biden should be impeached for forcing migrants that just want a better life to stay in a place literally worse than they left. To deny migrants the ability to move to a leftist utopia like Chicago, New York, Martha’s Vineyard, etc. is racist and a crime against humanity.
Somebody (well, everybody) seems to have forgotten those gates in Arizona that they welded open. If the path through Texas closes, it’ll just push more traffic that way.
Why not intern in Delaware ?
If only the Biden Administration would consider a plan to force Biden to Remain in his basement.
I have one. It involves a Letourneau L-2350.
I like it.
Expanding on something GWB said this act, if it happens, is probably more of a forced expulsion than a forced secession. With a fecal pot load of implications.
National sovereignty is defined by, begins at, and ends at, international borders. By attempting to defend the non-border states from invasion by hostile foreign nationals by the specific act of redrawing the real, functional, international border at the northern border of those states being currently invaded functionally removes those states from US sovereignty and simultaneously from the requirement of obeying US law. The sovereign border where US law runs and is imposed on both citizen and foreigner becomes that new northern border. The states currently being invaded through/from Mexico would be being expelled from the Union and their obligations to the government in the District of Columbia would be limited to those which can be enforced by military gun muzzles, bayonets, and fiduciary theft.
In the absence of a functioning national government in those former states of the United States, they would have the choice of accepting the rule of an existing national sovereignty [ not likely but possible] or becoming sovereign themselves either singly or in collusion with others in the same boat.
Does this sound vaguely, historically and geopolitically familiar? Even within living memory. There is a Eurasian empire that collapsed several decades ago. Its subsidiary units, styled republics, became legally and functionally independent and sovereign. One of them is now literally at war with an attempt by the former imperial power to reconstitute itself. In the course of that conflict, the republic fighting for survival has found that one of the worse mistakes that it made upon independence was to believe in the honesty and integrity of the former imperial power. Believing in that, and that foreign guarantees would protect them, they returned the empire’s tactical and strategic weaponry in their possession. If in fact there does come to be a swathe of independent and sovereign territory made up of former members of the United States, I rather suspect they will not make the same mistake, nor will they trust in the word of the former United States.
Now I am not a lawyer, nor do I play one on TV [if you remember that line it proves your advanced age]. I will admit that for a while in college I was pre-Law [when I switched from engineering, the university gave me a bunch of tests and as a sophomore engineering student I scored in the top 10% of first year law school students] but everybody does crazy things in their college days. I am a student of history, and political science, and have a career’s worth of practical knowledge of dealing with criminals and politicians.
There may be a touch of both sarcasm and exaggeration in the above, but I use it to try to draw any real legal minds into discussing this situation and possible resulting scenarios.
Subotai Bahadur
Actually, the territory Putin wants from Ukraine was Russian territory (occupied by Russians, who speak Russian) that was granted to Ukraine by Stalin. It was never historically part of Ukraine. (Indeed, most of today’s Ukraine was never historically Ukrainian.) Putin just wants it back. The only reason for it remaining part of Ukraine was Ukraine’s membership in the USSR. That federation no longer exists, therefore the reason for permitting Ukraine to administer the territory no longer exists.
That territory is settled by Russians because Stalin resettled them there and is not historically Russian.
My point is that the invasion of Ukraine is not Putin attempting to reconstitute the USSR.
Yes, it is. He also threatens the Baltic countries, Finland, and Poland and Belarus is a puppet.
There’s a Russian cultural impulse to push their borders out to the next people over, out of paranoia they’re going to be invaded. Then they settle Russians in those territories, rinse, and repeat. It’s been their behavior since the tsars.
Just in passing then, Texas was historically Mexican and a significant portion of the population is Mexican in ancestry. Would that justify an invasion by the Mexican army of Texas to reclaim it?
Mind you, I am not saying that Zelensky in the Ukraine is any sort of equivalent to Washington or Jefferson. I more than passing expect that he is an [insert adjectives] orifice. He is involved with both Hunter and Joe Biden. That is not a positive character reference. Basic rule for any nation sovereignty is the defense of the territory of that sovereignty. Which is what he is doing. If in the aftermath of all this, assuming an aftermath, there is an agreement that turns the Russian populated areas over to Russia, so be it.
Another little detail. Kiev was founded and became a principality in 882 led by Norse river traders/sailors called the Rus. It was/is referred to as Kievan Rus. Moscow was founded in 1263 by Prince Daniel of Vladimir-Suzdal, which itself was a principality subordinate to Kievan Rus. Moscow’s rise came after the conquest of all Russian territory by the Mongols in 1238. To put it bluntly, the princes of Moscow were better at betraying their fellow Russians for the benefit of the Mongols than any other Russian principality. But they all look back to Kiev as their civilizational source. What it comes down to is the human constant, brute force to determine who is in charge.
Subotai Bahadur
Just what do you think this invasion is, if not an attempt to reclaim former Mexican territory? Mexican politicians in Spanish-language media are quite open about this intention, as are groups in the US like La Raza.
It’s not justification. It’s a reason, whether we agree with it or not. My point is that Putin isn’t attempting to recreate the USSR. Territorially, his objectives are limited. Politically, his objective is to discourage the admission of Ukraine into NATO/discourage Ukraine from joining NATO.
Whoever told you Putin doesn’t want to recreate the Russian Empire lied to you.
Some of his allies want Alaska back.
Mexico did invade the infant Republic of Texas and were ultimately defeated very decisively at the battle of San Jacinto.
So we have an open border along Texas’ border with Mexico but they want to build one on the north side of Texas and any state it abuts. If they can’t enforce the first one, what makes them think they can enforce the second one?
Let me get this straight (am I still allowed to use that term?). If illegals voluntarily get on buses so Gov. Abbott can ship them elsewhere, that’s “kidnapping.” But if Biden restricts the travel of illegals so that they can’t leave Texas (or any other state of entry), that’s OK? I thought the unlawful of restriction of a person’s movement against their will was one of the definitions of “kidnapping”.
Not a new problem.
Terrorism committed by leftists is described as resistance; insurrection as liberation; genocide as purification.
Kidnapping? Pish tosh.
Yes, obviously.