NY Times Op-Ed Reveals Endgame of Border Crisis: Let Illegals Vote
“it’s time for Democrats to radically expand the electorate”
In a little over six months, the Biden administration has allowed hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants to flow across America’s southern border. Many conservatives have suggested that this is nothing more than a cynical attempt to change America’s electorate by creating more Democrat voters.
A writer for the New York Times just seemed to confirm that this was the endgame all along.
The NY Times piece is behind a paywall, but Phil Shiver of The Blaze has posted some excerpts:
Liberal journalist: There is ‘no good reason’ only citizens can vote
A guest columnist for the New York Times argued this week that “there is no good reason you should have to be a citizen to vote.”
According to the Times, the essay is “part of a series exploring bold ideas to revitalize and renew the American experiment.”
Atossa Araxia Abrahamian, a New York-based progressive journalist and former senior editor of the Nation, claimed in an opinion piece Wednesday that “it’s time for Democrats to radically expand the electorate.”
How? First by granting permanent legal residents the right to vote. Why? Because, according to Abrahamian, they contribute as much to the country as any natural-born citizen.
“Nearly 15 million people living legally in the United States, most of whom contribute as much as any natural-born American to this country’s civic, cultural and economic life, don’t have a say in matters of politics and policy because we — resident foreign nationals, or ‘aliens’ as we are sometimes called — cannot vote,” Abrahamian wrote.
Talk about saying the quiet part out loud.
For @nytopinion I wrote about how the U.S should let aliens (the friendly human kind) vote 👽🇺🇸 https://t.co/HesOgmEv4k
— Atossa Araxia Abrahamian (@atossaaraxia) July 29, 2021
Carmine Sabia of the Conservative Brief has more:
It sounds like a good faith argument from someone who just wants the right to vote in a nation where he resides and pays taxes.
But then you have to read just one paragraph farther to comprehend what it is that Abrahamian actually wants.
“Considering the Supreme Court’s recent decision undermining voting rights, and Republicans’ efforts to suppress, redistrict and manipulate their way to electoral security, it’s time for Democrats to radically expand the electorate. Proposing federal legislation to give millions of young people and essential workers a clear road to citizenship is a good start. But there’s another measure that lawmakers both in Washington and state capitals should put in place: lifting voting restrictions on legal residents who aren’t citizens — people with green cards, people here on work visas, and those who arrived in the country as children and are still waiting for permanent papers,” the writer said.
And there it is.
Make no mistake. There are Democrats in Washington who agree with this.
— Stephen L. Miller (@redsteeze) July 29, 2021
There Is No Good Reason You Should Have to Be a Citizen to Vote
"I hope that Democrats seize their chance, and realize the power and the enthusiasm of their potential constituents."
Talk about giving away the game!!https://t.co/Tqq3ZnfVhg
— Jeryl Bier (@JerylBier) July 29, 2021
Rush was right. Again. https://t.co/4A5tfq4NI5
— Saint Bellum (@saintbellumHQ) July 29, 2021
Keep this in mind the next time someone on the left claims that the idea of replacing the American electorate is a conspiracy theory.
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Next the NYT will be calling for voting booths in all countries. NYT will call for 8 billion ballots to be mailed out to the citizens of the world.
We all knew this game.
Doesn’t this prove the NYT is anti-American?
We knew that in the 1960s
There isn’t any good reason you don’t need to be a citizen to vote
There, fixed it
There’s a very good reason you need to be a citizen to vote, that whole Constitution thing.
What constitution thing? Have you ever even read the constitution? I doubt it.
Why not just do mail in ballots from Mexico? Open up a factory in Mexico City and make sure every Mexican gets 10 ballots. Print up a few extra for dead Mexicans.
““Nearly 15 million people living legally in the United States”
Argument based on bald faced lie, we have far more than 15 million ILLEGALs..
Lies of omission, Reproductive rate runs about 3.5 children per generation. Hispanic crime is far higher than our average, but not as high as black Americans. These factors multiply the impact of illegals.
“Reproductive rate runs about 3.5 children per generation.”
Wow!! That’s a lot of potential candidates for president of the U.S. with an overwhelming number of potential votes. I’m pretty sure one of them is being groomed for the job right now, probably by the same organization that groomed Obama.
No, it is not a lie. She is talking about legal aliens, so the number of illegal ones is irrelevant. Whether legal aliens, who work and pay taxes and have to obey the law, should be allowed to vote, is a serious question that ought to be considered some time, but not now. The urgent need now is not to expand the franchise but to contract it. We have too many people voting, not too few. But when and if there is a serious move to restrict the franchise, in sensible and fair ways, to exclude citizens who ought not to be allowed to vote, that will be the time to consider whether it might perhaps also be relaxed a little for some subset of aliens who have earned the privilege of voting.
(The strongest argument against such a relaxation is that there’s no need for it. If a legal alien wants to vote, all they need to do is become naturalized. If they choose not to do that, they’re demonstrating that they don’t care about voting, so there’s no harm in not letting them.)
“”If a legal alien wants to vote, all they need to do is become naturalized.””
Apparently, all they have to do is fill out a mail-in ballot.
Not true. Aliens are not supposed to receive ballots, and generally they aren’t. Certainly no state is sending them ballots on purpose.
“Generally” being the weasel word that admits you’re wrong without admitting you’re wrong. Some jurisdictions shotgunned ballots to all eligible voters. It was well documented that many were mailed to people who were dead or had moved. Plus, of course, there are allegations in some states that more ballots were returned than were mailed out. There was apparently little or no effort to determine whether those mail-in ballots were from legal voters. Anyway, the remark was made in jest. I know how that confuses you.
Actually, some states are. In particular, in the last election some states (Nevada, I’m sure there were more) were sending out ballots to blanket entire zip codes. So yes, I guarantee a bunch of those ballots were received by people ineligible to vote, including legal resident aliens and felons.
“Generally” simply acknowledges that there are aliens who have illegally registered to vote, and if the state is not aware that a voter’s registration is invalid then it will obviously allow them to vote. If they apply for a ballot they will be issued one, and in those few states that mailed out ballots without being asked, any fraudulently registered voters would have received one.
Plus, of course, there are allegations in some states that more ballots were returned than were mailed out.
There are all kinds of stupid allegations. Anyone can make an allegation, no matter how ridiculous. There is no basis for supposing any state received more ballots than it issued, let alone that it accepted and counted such ballots. As far as I know, in every state, every ballot received is matched to a registered voter, and (in the vast majority of states that require applications for postal ballots) to an application.
Actually, some states are. In particular, in the last election some states (Nevada, I’m sure there were more) were sending out ballots to blanket entire zip codes.
No, that did not happen. Not in Nevada, and not in any other state. I don’t know where you heard such nonsense. In Nevada, and a handful of other states, ballots were mailed to all registered, active voters. Not to anyone else. Of course in every state there are people who register falsely to vote, perhaps multiple times, and it’s very difficult to identify them; that’s a general problem, not related to this election.
If you want that, amend the Constitution or shut up.
WTF? You idiot. Why on earth would you need to amend the constitution, either to expand the franchise or to contract it, unless you want to contract it in ways that the constitution currently forbids. As it happens I would like to amend the constitution by repealing the 24th amendment, but I didn’t say anything about that in my comment. What else would require an amendment?
If she was talking about legal, then why open the border? They damn well are talking about the impact of all those illegals.
That is an outright lie. Read her words. She is explicitly talking about legal aliens. What she would like to do is irrelevant; we are discussing her written article, not her secret thoughts. And the argument she makes in her written article is entirely about legal aliens.
I am talking about their end game, she knows the end game. What she says does not matter.
Whose “end game”? The author is not part of a “they”. She is making her own proposal, and any criticism must be based on its own terms. She is proposing that legal aliens be allowed to vote.
You are correct that there are likely far more than 15 million illegal aliens in the US. Hell, we just added over one million under Quid Pro Joe.
But – given that the sentence stipulates legal residents (“…living legally in the United States), it is not a lie as it excluded illegal aliens from the count. As Rush often said “Words mean things.”
China and Russia are definitely getting a good laugh at the insanity that has overtaken America.
Does he propose to also make them eligible for Selective Service?
If we went to war with Mexico, who side would they be on? Hmm?
Alien residents are already required to register, and when we had a draft they were subject to it.
Let’s stop kidding oursevles….. illegals are already voting in many jurisdictions. And are being allowed to by the Dims.
Yeah, anyone could vote, and to reduce the stress on everyone, just mail ballots to those who ask for them, regardless of what country they’re from. That way the Taliban could have their say without the difficulty of actually immigrating. Actually I object to paying the postage for that though.
Here in Slovakia I have my dogs, cat, and horses all registered as Dims in 6 States so far…..
What about the flip side of the argument? Would AAA write an editorial (or at least support) the idea of American expats voting in the elections of the countries they are legal residing in? Shouldn’t all countries “enjoy” the benefits of non-citizens voting?
I ran across an excellent rebuttal to AAA’s argument (can’t find the link). She has resided in the US for quite some time, but has never bothered to become a naturalized citizen herself (and obtain the right to vote). As a legal US resident she can leave the US and return to her country, and the US cannot later compel her to return. She can earn money working while living overseas, and the US can’t tax those earnings the way they can US citizens. Like any legal US resident she can’t be drafted into the US military.
She can’t currently be drafted, because there is no draft. When there was one she would have been exempt because she’s a woman. But being an alien would not have exempted her.
The US can’t compel citizens living abroad to return.
That the US taxes its citizens living abroad is an extreme anomaly. No other country in the world does that, or regards it as legitimate.
And yes, of course she would support other countries allowing resident aliens to vote. Why on earth do you imagine she wouldn’t?
I’m still a US citizen and can vote in local elections and regional elections all the way to Governor, here in Slovakia. My cat, dogs and horses are now registered as Dims in 6 US States.
I’m wondering how well this will play with minority voters; especially black voters. It sends a signal that citizens of another country are more important, and if given the vote, they would vote for their interests. Given the large number if illegals in the US, this could easily impact other minorities negatively.
Afterall, they aren’t US citizens so voting for the best interests of the US and her citizens isn’t really a priority for them.
Others have pointed out elsewhere that there is little love lost between the brown and black brothers
What evidence is there that blacks care? They vote 95% Democrat while the Democrats have destroyed their job base by importing Mexicans to do those jobs instead. Blacks, if they had an ounce of economic sanity, would vote against the Democrats.
They probably voted by a million in 2020, wtf should foreigners pick our goverment? I bet not 1 country on the planet let’s foreigners vote in their elections.
Wrong. I can legally vote in local and regional elections up to Zupan (Governor).
Extend the the franchise to non Citizens? No. Wave another ‘this is the last time amnesty wand’ like 1986? No
Of course if the Rona is as bad as we are told and we need masks and vax and booster vax and semi lock down then maybe we should halt illegal immigration until the pandemic is concluded?
Maybe transportation of people who were not tested and then held and retested (remember about the incubation period) throughout the interior of the Nation isn’t a wise policy?
Since the administration is handing covid positive illegals over to catholic charities and those charities then place them unrestrained into hotels within communities whose leaders are not even told about this, perhaps the Rona isn’t really as bad as we are told?
Surely the Biden administration wouldn’t knowingly place the American People in jeopardy to serve a partisan political purpose? (Sarcasm)
Either the kids who are for all practical purposes unaffected by Rona need masks and we might not have school in the fall due to severity of Rona OR the open boarder agenda is putting lives at risk.
It can’t be both. Either Rona is super serious or it’s no big deal. Pick one and live with the political consequences.
The vile Dhimmi-crats “end-game” with regard to illegal aliens has been obvious for decades, to any person possessing a scintilla of awareness and common sense. Expanding their political power and expanding federal power and spending are always the Dhimmi-crats overarching goals. Flooding the country with illegal aliens is but the easiest means of achieving these goals.
So, it will now come down to people showing or being measured by how much they contribute to our “society” (whatever that is — is that all people in the world now?) that finally determines if you should or should not be a USA citizen? How will this be done and by who?
Likewise, there is no good reason you should have to have an account to make a withdrawal.
According to Wikipedia, the author has citizenship in Switzerland, Canada, and Iran. Once I am allowed to vote in those three countries, I’ll be willing to talk.
There are several countries that allow aliens to vote in local and regional elections. I know of none that allow it in national elections.
In the early days of the republic there were some states that allowed alien residents to vote.
When the USA had a draft, it applied equally to citizens and aliens. I don’t know how so many people seem to think aliens were exempt.