LIVE: Will Senate finally bury the “Dead-on-Arrival” Impeachment Trial? (Update 2 – Democrats Capitulate, No Witnesses)
Mitch McConnell announces he will vote to acquit.
Today could be the day the Senate votes on whether to convict Donald Trump on the single Article of Impeachment for Incitement To Riot.
Mitch McConnell has announced he will vote to acquit.
McConnell says it was a “close call” but says impeachment is “primarily a tool of removal” and the Senate lacks jurisdiction . He says criminal conduct by a president in office can be prosecuted when the president is out of office pic.twitter.com/JGMTjCp2OL
— Burgess Everett (@burgessev) February 13, 2021
Democrats are seeking testimony from a congresswoman, and possibly other witnesses, regarding an alleged conversation between Trump and Kevin McCarthy that suppsedly took place during the riot.
On CNN right now: @jamiegangel reporting this new exchange from McCarthy's heated call with Trump during the insurrection:
Trump: “Well Kevin, I guess these people are more upset about the election than you are.”
McCarthy: “Who the f*** do you think you are talking to?”
— Abby D. Phillip (@abbydphillip) February 12, 2021
"We believe we've proven our case," Rep. Raskin says. But "we would like to subpoena Congresswoman Herrera [Beutler]." (!)
— Rick Klein (@rickklein) February 13, 2021
Trump’s counsel said if the Democrats want any witnesses, Trump wants at least 100 witnesses.
"We should close this case out today…" – Michael van der Veen pic.twitter.com/rFUBSGgF76
— Trump War Room (@TrumpWarRoom) February 13, 2021
Bring on the Witnesses
With all Democrats, plus Collins, Murkowski, Romney, and Sasse, Senate votes to call witnesses. Then Sen. Sullivan asks what the votes was on — One witness? More? Leahy cut him off. Will not answer.
— Byron York (@ByronYork) February 13, 2021
Because he wants the defense to have witnesses.
— Kathryn Watson (@kathrynw5) February 13, 2021
It appears Lindsay Graham changed his vote at the end to Yes for some procedural reason (we’ve seen this before, don’t claim to fully understand it, but only people who vote for a measure can invoke certain Senate rule procedures).
Senate vote to call witnesses is 55-45. (Lindsey Graham changed vote after originally voting no, probably for procedural reasons.)
— Byron York (@ByronYork) February 13, 2021
UPDATES
"It’s all perfectly bizarre to have this sudden surprise witness come up literally before closing arguments…in a normal court of law a judge would go absolutely ballistic…" – Jonathan Turley pic.twitter.com/5fwG1FnlYr
— Trump War Room (@TrumpWarRoom) February 13, 2021
News with @heatherscope @marianne_levine: That witness vote totally blindsided Senate Dems, who held a conference call at 9 a.m. and indicated they didn't think this would come up. House managers decided RIGHT before 10 a.m. to call that votehttps://t.co/AY5amvbAsr
— Burgess Everett (@burgessev) February 13, 2021
Thread: Chaos at the impeachment trial.
Dems had agreed to know witnesses, then House Managers changed their mind this morning.
Schumer blindsided. Pandemonium. They’re negotiating now to figure out next steps.
— Ted Cruz (@tedcruz) February 13, 2021
A) Graham: It is my firm belief that the House Managers are trying to investigate the case AFTER it was brought to the Senate. It is better for the country to go to a final vote.
However, if the body wants witnesses, I am going to insist we have multiple witnesses.
— Chad Pergram (@ChadPergram) February 13, 2021
Ted Cruz says Twitter erupted last night in outrage that witnesses weren't being called, which caused House Managers to upend their no-witnesses plan. Seems accurate; hilarious that this is the actual chronology of how the USA's fourth-ever impeachment trial is being conducted
— Michael Tracey (@mtracey) February 13, 2021
“Total, total shit show,” Joni Ernst says when I asked about her reaction to this, calling it “a tool of revenge” against Trump. Adds: “if they want to drag this out, we’ll drag it out. They won’t get their noms, they won’t get anything.”
— Emily Cochrane (@ESCochrane) February 13, 2021
BUT WAIT, THERE’S MORE
Democrats have capitulated. No witnesses. Instead, the Congresswoman’s statement will be read into the record.
Senate formally back. Herrera Beutler’s statement now being read into the record. Agreed to by counsel on both sides
— Chad Pergram (@ChadPergram) February 13, 2021
What an unbelievable cave by Democrats here.
They cleared the first witness vote — and then decided that they wouldn’t call witnesses.
— Jake Sherman (@JakeSherman) February 13, 2021
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So after all this, McConnell think Trump was guilty of criminal conduct?
What an absolute snake.
No, McConnell assures those who worry about Presidents getting away with crime in their last days in office haven’t a leg to stand on. President’s can be charged and prosecuted for any crime after leaving office.
No, or at least not unless you believe the NYT’s anonymous sources who claim that McConnell is saying that in private.
McConnell’s “close call” is on the Constitutional jurisdiction claim, not on the merits of the “incitement to insurrection” or whatever other insanities the Dems were ranting about.
His “Presidential criminal conduct” is a hypothetical. He’s dismissing the argument Dems have made that there would be no remedy for criminal conduct by a President if they can’t impeach him once he’s out of office.
I said it from the start.
Mitch ‘The Bitch’ McConnell was totally on board with convicting Trump to ensure he could never run again, convinced in his stupidity that the voters would come crawling back to the GOPe and beg for his leadership.
From the very start he’s been publicly supportive of them voting their ‘conscience’ on Trump.
He was actually stupid enough to think people were going to buy into this SHOCKING INSURRECTION AND VIOLENCE absolute bullshit that the Democrats have been peddling, and stupid enough to think that the Democrats had a shred of actual evidence.
The fact that he is JUST NOW confirming he’ll vote to acquit tells you everything.
THE ONLY REASON he’s voting to acquit is he’s finally seen just how pathetic the ‘case’ against Trump was, and he’s finally realized that he will get ABSOLUTELY NO COVER for a guilty vote.
This entire farce is a giant demonstration of how utterly disconnected the RINO GOPe leadership is, both from actual conservative voters, and from reality.
He “just now” announced that he’s voting to acquit, true.
But he voted weeks ago that the trial would be unconstitutional. And he voted that way again last week. And will be voting for acquittal on that same basis.
So it’s not like his position that the “trial” is an unconstitutional farce is a new one.
Mitch wiuld have been called as a witness to testify. He would have been asked about any interaction with the former Sgt. Arms in regards to capitol security on 1/6 and if they had a conversation what did he do after the conversatio
Well do bring them on since America is at rapt attention. Trump derangement gives way to Trump withdrawal.
PTSD….Post Trump Separation Disorder
What a Disaster.
I’m embarrassed today to be American. Both parties are problematic but you’d think some grown-up at the Dem Party would step in here and stop this train-wreck. Until now, I dismissed the rhetoric that said “Dem Party is Anti-America”. They are just proving it to be so. Pushing a trial that turns ALL procedure and law upside-down due purely to a political vendetta, not to mention an open-border policy , which I would call “insane” except that it would be an insult to crazy people.
If you do not like the results…change the rules. Continue until the desired results are achieved.
Wash, rinse, repeat
Warning to D’Rats: For they sow the wind, and they shall reap the whirlwind. Hosea 8:7
A kangaroo Congress.
Graham changed his vote because he realizes virtually all of the Congress and Senate can be subpoenaed. Imagine all those people under oath.
LAso I think they just shat on Biden’s STOU. They can’t conduct other business.
Do the Dem’s realize how disastrous this is for them. Imagine every day GOP Senators walk up to mikes and ask why are we doing this instead of COVID relief?
What if Leahy dies while this goes on? Will it continue forever– well until the next session in two years?
Obviously the D’s feel like the defense obliterated their case and embarrassed them badly. They can’t end on that note. The whole point is to damage Trump and he seems to be in a stronger position than before the shampeachment.
I think this is great news, the best news would be 2 years of this spectacle to hamper their plans of destroying the country. We must find a way to beat the fraud in 2022 though.
No the defence of Trump was absolutely terrible. It made very little sense. The videos were badly spliced together incoherent and totally out of context. And worse they were videos of senators were likely familiar with exactly what they were talking about. In other words it was pretty plain that it was crap. Additionally the 1st amendment argument really fell flat.
Nor were they able to challenge some of the new information such as Trump phoning to change the election result after finding out that Pence was being evacuated. Which leads to question of witnesses to determine or confirm that time line. It would appear that Trump was more concerned with over turning the election result than attempting to calm the situation.
That’s what academics refer to as “horsepuckey”. Usually when Leftists are caught on their glaring hypocrisy with damning statements they made in public, the lame context of bUt CoNtExT!!! rears its tired, wrinkly old head. Bad splicing? That’s what you’re going with here?
The allegations of a phonecall to change the election result has neither jack nor squat to do with “inciting violence”. Your take here is garbage tier.
You probably should write “It made very little sense to me,” which may be a true statement. As you left the last two key words out, you’re just wrong.
It was not “badly spliced together”, it was a supercut demonstrating that every single one of the Democrat senators had used the exact same “fighting” language on multiple occasions. Of course, since Democrats apparently have no shame, that will not lead any of those to reconsider, but the wobbly Republicans know they have used the exact same language themselves and could have been exposed as hypocrites as well. The defense is not aiming to convince you.
I’ll just point out that that “absolutely terrible” defense sent the House managers into a tailspin that had them suddenly making an absurd witness request.
How so? Care to elaborate?
New information? You are kidding, aren’t you? First of all, that has no bearing on the one count the House in its haste has impeached Trump on, in other words, it is irrelevant. Additionally, it is the burden of the prosecution to provide proof. They haven’t. And they seem to think that stipulating that the witness would say something is the same as stipulating that the content of the hearsay the prosecution wants to introduce is true. But, again, it is irrelevant to the one charge the House has made.
But I am sure the Washington Post, New York Times, and CNN all agree with you. But just as Mr Manager Raskin claiming they made an unrefutable case doesn’t make it so, the media that have decided to operate untethered from the truth claiming the same does not add any truth to the claim.
“” “” Additionally the 1st amendment argument really fell flat.””
How so? Care to elaborate?””
Simple. In troll world, free speech only applies to the left
Cat Loving Karen (mark311) has spoken. Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!
mark troll workin’ hard for his ramen today
Correct. Keep this up and they will get buried. The level of fraud that would be necessary to assure they win the mid-terms will be such that it would be apparent to a blind pocket gopher. But they will have choices: don’t cheat and lose; cheat enough to not make it look like a Republican landslide; or cheat enough to win and get caught doing it.
Not to be a wet blanket, but they cheated hard enough to get caught this time, and they still got away with it.
Witnesses? The defense doesn’t need to call any, and the House clearly has waved the right to call witnesses by never conducting an investigation in the first place.
Of course,
• Senators Susan Collins of Maine,
• Mitt Romney of Utah,
• Lisa Murkowski of Alaska,
• Ben Sasse of Nebraska, and
• Lindsey Graham of South Carolina
join the lockstep Democrats to vote for witnesses. What Graham is thinking is beyond me. He has voted that the procedure is unconstitutional, so his vote to acquit should be fixed.
One should assume that now that the Senate has voted to have evidence introduced the House managers are required to bring the pseudo-witnesses they let speak in their deceptively edited videos or through reading claims of “I heard a voice in my head commanding me to attack the Capitol. It was the voice of Trump” as they need to prove that anyone actually was incited, not hear some Rino congress critter offering triple or quadruple hearsay.
Unbelievable that they really want to extend this farce.
But then again, any fantasy roleplaying game nerd knows that the undead are difficult to kill…
As I understand it the only witness being considered is a GOP congress women to confirm the timing of trump’s phone call to McCarthy
That I cannot believe. Are you sure? The timing of a phone call the content of which is unknown and that was uncontestedly made after the Capitol building was attacked and, if it was indeed with President Trump, obviously after the speech that the Article of Impeachment alleges is the “incitement”?
What possible probative value for any relevant fact could the timing of such a call have?
Well the phone call log is recorded as for the content that’s already known Trump told McCarthy, “Well, Kevin, I guess these people are more upset about the election than you are.” and that’s at least close, timing wise, to when the capitol building was being over run.
The article has been updated, this congress women in question has issued a statement or something
That is not “known,” it barely rises to the level of rumor. But I grant you that it is not less reliable than any other facts the House introduced purporting to “connect” the dots.
Haaaaaaaa, Karen concern that Kevin got his feeling hurt.
You lost mark troll, get over it, you can cry into your ramen now
A discussion that apparently was reported by a news source, and which is denied by everyone else. It is Fake News again. On the other hand, Trump’s offer for thousands of security personnel to Pelosi and company has multiple witnesses.
Seems like Graham changed his vote to “yea” to underscore that if that floodgate is opened, it is a floodgate that is opened. While I don’t think that it was necessary to vote for opening this farce for an evidence collection phase, I cannot really argue with Graham’s reasoning.
The four others though. Insanity.
I’ve seen comments elsewhere indicating that Graham’s move was to give him a leg up later for use of an obscure Senate rule that can only be invoked by someone who supported the calling of witnesses. What that rule is and what advantage it would give was unknown to those making the comment.
Motion to reconsider. It can only be moved by someone who supported the original motion. So it’s common for one opponent of a winning motion to change his vote at the last minute, so if he later gets an opportunity to sink it he will be able to.
D’uh. You’re right, of course.
Should have thought of that. It does explain why Graham changed his vote to keep that option open.
Good catch.
Democrats will rue this day. If they get to call Pelosi as a witness, perhaps the question of did she take her Aricept today will come up. She can be asked why she turned down additional help for the Capitol police? What did she know about ANTIFA’s plans for the day and when did she know it? They opened a Pandora’s basket here.
As Wild Bill Hickock said to blood-hungry gawkers after he killed a man in a classic Western gunfight, I say to people who voted for these D’Rat scoundrels: “Are you satisfied?”
What? Pelosi didn’t make the decision to withhold support to the capitol police and so far only a single anti fa person has been identified within the capitol building. The remainder, that is 100’s, of protestors were most definitely Trump supporters.
Bla bla bla, mark troll frantically shoveling
there are reports out there that the sgt of arms of both the house and senate were aware that extra security was needed a few days ahead of time. Those two report to the speakers, the capitol board has three members and two have to vote yes to make the request for more security. It is likely the capitol police chief, both speakers, both sgt of arms , fbi and pentagon people would have been under a subpeona.
This could have easily dragged out multiple months.
Bull. You leftists are like cockroaches – where there’s one, there are a lot more. Check that – you leftists ARE cockroaches.
Yes, she did.
What a clown show. I hope they get both Pelosi and Bow-wowser on the stand. It is highly doubtful they will tell the truth because it reveal what low lives that they truly are.
Again to quote, this time, the Sainted Myron Cope: “Yoy and double-yoy, What a debacle!”
Yes, they hope that trial by press will still be a viable choice. This is the Katrina maneuver, and so many more, and Bush, too, was precedent.
Which audience is the Republican members playing too? Every present move strips away chunks of the yuge voter base they had under Trump. This is Russian roulette with 5 of 6 chambers loaded. The GOP is now the true Surrender Monkeys of the world. Even France knows better.
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What did they know and when did they know it?
THEY ARE GOING TO CALL a lot more than those 2. Harris is definatly on the list for posting bail for rioters. Biden for threatening Trump. And more and more and more.
Get Harris and Biden on record testifying under oath that there was no election fraud.
Damn, this could last past the first 100 days.
I hope that Trumps team makes the point that people become incensed when they and their elected sitting president of the United States are censored, scrubbed, erased from all media, specifically having their 1a rights violated by unelected media oligarchs working for the interests of those who committed proven voting fraud.
The proof of voter fraud is available. Physically recounted votes showed that the machines flipped thousands of votes from Trump to Biden in the counties audited. Watch the video.
A valid election didn’t happen and it won’t until the censorship ends and ithe details of the fraud are exposed by nationwide audits bringing ALL the guilty to justice.
http://www.worldviewweekend.com/tv/video/absolute-proof-exposing-election-fraud-and-theft-america-enemies-foreign-and-domestic
No, the proof does not exist. And I’m not about to watch a two-hour video with the names of certified lunatics on the cover, just so I can confirm what I already know, that they’re full of sh*t.
Actually proof of election law violations does exist. It has been well documented, both through witness statements and video evidence. There is substantial circumstantial evidence that actual vote fraud occurred, both electronic, video and witness statements. The only reason why no entity in a position of authority will investigate the allegations, is because it would more than likely produce substantial proof of vote fraud, which would make it impossible for people to make the statement that no proof of vote fraud exists.
If the same level of reasonable suspicion existed around an armed robbery, LE would be all over it. Wo, why no investigations, of any consequences in what could be the biggest criminal case in US history?
I’m looking forward to the Water Buffalo guy
But, I really thought he was a deer!
Well now, if the Republicans can drag out this impeachment for two years, they will block all of Impostor Joe’s legislation, and with a little effort, they can block it for his full four year term.
Just imagine, congress blocking all of the President’s legislation while they attempt to convict the President.
We need to know why Pelosi didn’t reinforce the Capitol Police? We also need to know how long the Army of the Potomac intends to occupy Wash. DC? If Wash. DC were granted statehood, could the governor interfere with the Army of Occupation?
Gosh, imagine all the evil our governmenteers could wreak with this impeachment.
D.C. statehood ain’t gonna happen. What remains of the District was ceded to Congress for its use as the seat of the federal government. Once that use is given up, the territory must revert to the state (Maryland) that made the cession. (This is how it worked when Congress surrendered that portion of the District that had been ceded by Virginia.)
Once this occurs, the purpose of the exercise will be fulfilled – District residents will become Maryland citizens overnight and will have the representation in Congress that statehood is meant to provide.
The last thing they want is to set a modern precedent of allowing a state to voluntarily split off a portion of itself for the creation of a new state because then other states could do the same in a battle to control the Senate. It will also be extremely difficult to do because the raison d’être (congressional representation) for the District’s surrender will have already been accomplished.
I would not rule anything out.
Says who? There’s nothing in the constitution that says so. Congress chose to give the VA section back to VA. It doesn’t have to do the same for MD if it doesn’t want to. Though doing so would be a good solution to the problem of representation.
States can’t do that; only the congress can, with the relevant state’s consent.
I’m no political scientist, but the Democrats backing away from witnesses on the stand tells me they don’t want something to be known.
Well played, Graham…now, keep it up for the next 5 years and 10 months.
I’m still hoping for the Trump lawyers to break out the diarrhea and fart jokes on the floor of the Senate. Nothing would be more appropriate.
It’s over. No witnesses>
Closing arguments now for up to four hours. Acquittal vote afterwards
Good thing President Trump got Van Der Veen in there to put a professional presentation on the clown show
First day was brutal
I was so looking forward to Buffalo horn man
Maybe Greg Gutfeld can have him on his show
What? It’s going to be over? But we have armed soldiers in the streets and everything! The least these Senators can do is continue swimming like one leg ducks for a while longer!
Once Ted Cruz mentioned that old Nancy was gonna be called, her staff realised that testimony under oath is exempt from the speech and debate clause she and the swamp hides under. We have seen how easy it is to prove perjury. Honest mistakes or not. Just ask roger stone or George P.
Not watched a second and worked all day until now sounds like a circle firing squad.
“McConnell says it was a “close call”…”
Screw you, McConnell. What a jackass!
Van Der Veen is an excellent trial lawyer.
Trump’s lawyers threatened to call Miss Nancy and DC Mayor to testify about preparations before Jan 6. Guess the Dem’s weren’t sure that Miss Nancy and DC mayor would lie under oath and might say something that goes against the narrative.
Maybe they would even have been asked: Who killed Ashli Babbitt?
Sen Toomie voted guilty,
Never forget the names
Seven Senate Republicans voted to convict Trump of inciting an insurrection, including Sens.
Richard Burr (R-NC),
Bill Cassidy (R-LA),
Susan Collins (R-ME),
Lisa Murkowski (R-AK),
Mitt Romney (R-UT),
Ben Sasse (R-NE),
Pat Toomey (R-PA).
These will live in infamy. They wanted to convict against clearest evidence that there was no incitement, against the prohibition of the First Amendment for Congress to attach any punishment to protected speech, solely on the basis of their hatred. If these people had any honor they would resign.
But I wouldn’t hold my breath.
Is Toomey and Cassidy… hmmm
All of them need to hear from us LOUD and CLEAR
My heart breaks for President Trump and his family. This is an absolutely vile, evil thing that they are enduring.
I absolutely loathe the jackals in DC.
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We are a broken country. I am seething just under the surface.
Anything else I say will get me banned.
Mitch McConnell is now calling for Trump to be prosecuted as a private citizen “for everything he did while in office”
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PDT can be arrested for record unemployment, roaring economy, mid east percent deal, no wars, etc?