The GOP is intent on destroying itself. The GOP establishment hates the conservative base so much they are willing to drive them out of the party even if it means never winning an election again. Who was it who wrote, “Better to reign in Hell than serve in Heaven?”
You’re kidding, but there are actually some ironic parallels in his scathing poem, “On The New Forcers Of Conscience Under The Long Parliament,” with what’s happening in today’s Republican Party. http://faculty.history.wisc.edu/sommerville/367/367-milton.htm
I suspect that the politicians are beholden to their big campaign contributors and corporations, and these typically are giving money to both parties. They want their goodies and interests protected.
The problems that both Republicans and Democrats can identify are not necessarily dissimilar; it’s the proposed solutions that are dissimilar. Times have changed. Politicians are beholden to interests that are not aligned on all of the issues that affect the workers in the U.S. Most are corporations, but also not aligned are the vastly wealthy individuals whose financial investments are global, and who can live anywhere.
I have a friend from school, grew up middle class in Miami, who now owns a hedge fund. His “homes” include, among others, a city block in London, a house on Mustique, a house in Switzerland, a ranch in Australia, an apartment in Hong Kong, and his apartment in NYC for the few days a year he is in Manhattan. His point of view on the election? He simply doesn’t care. Doesn’t care if people are living in tents in Cleveland, whether Detroit remains polluted, what the social issues are, or whether the middle class is riddled with debt and beholden to the company store. Doesn’t really care where he lives. It’s only a matter of shifting investments. He wants the politician who will do him favors, and give his businesses goodies.
“Reducing government” to him means where (what country) from time to time has the least regulation, the lowest taxes, and incentives. He’s not even tied to any particular industry. But the saved capital is not necessarily going to be invested in a plant in the U.S. Could as easily be Nigeria or China. Global “corporations are people” in the same way. Romney.
There is a disjunct between on one hand, the land that is the United States, and the people who live on that land, and the government that is supposed to provide for and protect that land and those people — and those “1%” individuals, but mostly intangible “persons”, who live in a global ether, to whom it is largely irrelevant who is their labor force, what the standard of living is, and so forth. It is these interests have a stranglehold on the establishment politicians in both parties.
“We haven’t had time to do a real analysis of the Romney race in South Carolina, but once we break that down, there was some element of anti-Mormonism in that vote,” McCain asserted. “I’m not saying all of it, but there were elements there. There was nothing that Mitt Romney could have done.”
Sound familiar? He doesn’t yet have the facts but so what? SC voters must all be Cambridge MA cops acting stupidly.
McCain is totally senile and he has obviously sold his soul to the GOP establishment. I hope some day someone proves Megan McCain IS actually his daughter. That would almost be punishment enough…
Is this Harpootlian guy really this big of a moron? Because the GOP candidates are treating everybody the same, regardless of race, that that is racist behavior?
Evidently Republicans are now racists because they exist. But we knew that already…
Dick Harpootlian is an embarrassment to SC…..a real tinfoil hat wearer, full of conspiracy theories and not afraid to use the “new civility” language of the left. I think he is advised by Bret Bursey (google him up if you don’t know about our state treasure). I’m all for Harpootlian to keep it up, I’m trying to get all SC Democrats to agree with him, something that will kill them come reelection time.
So, Herman Cain endorses Newt. Hurray, yippee, seriously; nearly nirvana!
So, now my concern is how to get Newt, Herman, and Sarah together as one GOP ticket and since that’s not possible, two out of these three need to be on the ticket and personally, it doesn’t matter to me who’s in the top spot or who’s paired up with whom. But, these three are our Conservative flag bearers much more than Mitt; Mitt doesn’t even know which end of that standard to hold. Rick Santorum is a good man but IMAO he’s not quite there yet; give’em three or seven years and he can match up with Marco, Mitch, Jindal, or maybe even Perry on a second try.
Enough about St. Rick! He’s a self-serving little opportunist.
As a sitting Senator, Mr. Family/Pro-Life endorsed leftist/pro-abortion Arlen Specter in 2004 against pro-life Toomey, who probably would’ve won in the general. Huh? Newt’s Dede Scozzafava adventure doesn’t begin to compare: Specter became Senate Dem #60, clearing the way for Obamacare.
Santorum won’t win. He’s around 10% everywhere. Iowa was a fluke because of the anti-Newt takedown job. But Santorum won’t get out to stop splitting the conservative vote. Ego, bad judgment, buy-off…?
Everyone makes a few decisions in life that have enormous consequences. In public office, consequences are magnified. Elected officials should LIVE for those moments, to make the right choice. If they don’t it should destroy their careers.
Santorum made a terrible error, with grave consequences for his party, for conservatism, for the pro-life movement, for the nation.
Analogy: a general blunders by getting talked into a strategy he hates–and loses a huge battle, with horrific consequences. He gets a second chance, and gravely harms his side AGAIN by refusing to combine his small force with a larger unit that can win decisively–he wants to show the world he can do it, darn it!
I used to love Santorum until the Specter debacle, and his current selfishness just reinforces that.
OK, I’m done. If you still like Santorum, go for it.
I respect your opinion. I gave up on Bush at TARP. That was the obvious turning point in his career as far as I was concerned. I wanted to take back both my votes for him at that point.
I don’t know if Santorum’s endorsement of Specter is the same order of magnitude thought it was almost certainly the worst decision he has ever made, and it did make a huge difference in the debacle that unfolded since Obama was elected. But frankly, I suspect another senator would have folded if Specter hadn’t been there.
Professor: How many psychiatrists are required to change (or save) a light bulb? Just one, but it really has to want to change. What makes you think the Republican Party wants to be saved, and they want you to save it? Don’t forget the first rule of lifesaving: the life you save may be your own.
This is clearly a schism between the elite haves and conservatives who work. Once again we see those lucky enough to be given tree houses to play in making sure others don’t get to climb the ladder.
My brother once observed to me that fat people at the buffet weren’t so much interested in getting things to eat, as they were in depriving others of the good things to eat. Buffet et al have made their fortunes, their willing to have the rules changed so others can’t as well.
Professor, a caller to the RedEye radio show tonight made an astute observation. Every single person that has endorsed Mitt Romney has been a party to increasing our national debt to 15 trillion dollars. Every single person who endorsed Newt…..was not. Things that make you go hmmmmm.
I have to laugh at that: a Democrat in the South, leading the party of secession, calling the Republican party raaaaacist because they are not “reaching out enough” – and holding a debate on MLK day….just like the Democrats did in 2008!!
Rich, and ripe, if O’Reilly was as low as Ed Schultz, Al Sharpton, etc., who would have gone there and called the guest raaaacist.
I find it ironic, in light of all the (mostly Dem) attacks on Newt about the “foodstamp president”=raaaaacist, that the only exception to his faux accusation is Newt. 😉
Hmmmm, thought just occured to me. nasty as it is, I will say this….the husband of a SC house of representatives member sent out Christmas cards a few years ago with the photo of a dead black man on the front and inside is said something to the effect of “hope you get what you want for christmas”. Yes, he and his wife have the big D beside their name, and gush over D Harpootlian. hmmm………………
You cannot be serious……..someone in this day and age did that – and it didn’t get any media attention?
Of course, it was sent by a member of the protected party, the party of MSM choice, which explains so much. And a state rep, so less national “merit” from the biased lame stream media’s perspective.
I’m trying to get my hands on one, will scan and post link when I do. Funny thing is, This guy is on county council, has wanted to be a political player for the longest time and is constantly telling me that people like me have no place in politics….typical elitist train of thought. I emailed a friend to see if he had a copy, he already senses that there is malfeasance afoot and backpedaled on the issue. tough cookies for him, as my father had a copy and it is probably still floating around his shop somewhere.
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The GOP is intent on destroying itself. The GOP establishment hates the conservative base so much they are willing to drive them out of the party even if it means never winning an election again. Who was it who wrote, “Better to reign in Hell than serve in Heaven?”
Milton. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradise_Lost.
Was he a RINO?
You’re kidding, but there are actually some ironic parallels in his scathing poem, “On The New Forcers Of Conscience Under The Long Parliament,” with what’s happening in today’s Republican Party.
http://faculty.history.wisc.edu/sommerville/367/367-milton.htm
Wait, are you saying Milton was a RION?
I suspect that the politicians are beholden to their big campaign contributors and corporations, and these typically are giving money to both parties. They want their goodies and interests protected.
The problems that both Republicans and Democrats can identify are not necessarily dissimilar; it’s the proposed solutions that are dissimilar. Times have changed. Politicians are beholden to interests that are not aligned on all of the issues that affect the workers in the U.S. Most are corporations, but also not aligned are the vastly wealthy individuals whose financial investments are global, and who can live anywhere.
I have a friend from school, grew up middle class in Miami, who now owns a hedge fund. His “homes” include, among others, a city block in London, a house on Mustique, a house in Switzerland, a ranch in Australia, an apartment in Hong Kong, and his apartment in NYC for the few days a year he is in Manhattan. His point of view on the election? He simply doesn’t care. Doesn’t care if people are living in tents in Cleveland, whether Detroit remains polluted, what the social issues are, or whether the middle class is riddled with debt and beholden to the company store. Doesn’t really care where he lives. It’s only a matter of shifting investments. He wants the politician who will do him favors, and give his businesses goodies.
“Reducing government” to him means where (what country) from time to time has the least regulation, the lowest taxes, and incentives. He’s not even tied to any particular industry. But the saved capital is not necessarily going to be invested in a plant in the U.S. Could as easily be Nigeria or China. Global “corporations are people” in the same way. Romney.
There is a disjunct between on one hand, the land that is the United States, and the people who live on that land, and the government that is supposed to provide for and protect that land and those people — and those “1%” individuals, but mostly intangible “persons”, who live in a global ether, to whom it is largely irrelevant who is their labor force, what the standard of living is, and so forth. It is these interests have a stranglehold on the establishment politicians in both parties.
Here is Juan McAmnesty stating that Romney lost in SC because SC voters are anti-Mormon bigots.
http://hotair.com/archives/2012/01/28/mccain-lets-face-it-anti-mormonism-probably-played-a-role-in-romneys-south-carolina-loss/
I think his statement below was written by Obama:
“We haven’t had time to do a real analysis of the Romney race in South Carolina, but once we break that down, there was some element of anti-Mormonism in that vote,” McCain asserted. “I’m not saying all of it, but there were elements there. There was nothing that Mitt Romney could have done.”
Sound familiar? He doesn’t yet have the facts but so what? SC voters must all be Cambridge MA cops acting stupidly.
McCain is totally senile and he has obviously sold his soul to the GOP establishment. I hope some day someone proves Megan McCain IS actually his daughter. That would almost be punishment enough…
This just in. Herman Cain endorses Newt.
I was a big Cain fan. Will this be enough to make me reconsider Newt?
I give up. You tell us.
Is this Harpootlian guy really this big of a moron? Because the GOP candidates are treating everybody the same, regardless of race, that that is racist behavior?
Evidently Republicans are now racists because they exist. But we knew that already…
Dick Harpootlian is an embarrassment to SC…..a real tinfoil hat wearer, full of conspiracy theories and not afraid to use the “new civility” language of the left. I think he is advised by Bret Bursey (google him up if you don’t know about our state treasure). I’m all for Harpootlian to keep it up, I’m trying to get all SC Democrats to agree with him, something that will kill them come reelection time.
So, Herman Cain endorses Newt. Hurray, yippee, seriously; nearly nirvana!
So, now my concern is how to get Newt, Herman, and Sarah together as one GOP ticket and since that’s not possible, two out of these three need to be on the ticket and personally, it doesn’t matter to me who’s in the top spot or who’s paired up with whom. But, these three are our Conservative flag bearers much more than Mitt; Mitt doesn’t even know which end of that standard to hold. Rick Santorum is a good man but IMAO he’s not quite there yet; give’em three or seven years and he can match up with Marco, Mitch, Jindal, or maybe even Perry on a second try.
Hey, I still like Santorum more than Newt! Don’t talk bad about Rick…
Enough about St. Rick! He’s a self-serving little opportunist.
As a sitting Senator, Mr. Family/Pro-Life endorsed leftist/pro-abortion Arlen Specter in 2004 against pro-life Toomey, who probably would’ve won in the general. Huh? Newt’s Dede Scozzafava adventure doesn’t begin to compare: Specter became Senate Dem #60, clearing the way for Obamacare.
Santorum won’t win. He’s around 10% everywhere. Iowa was a fluke because of the anti-Newt takedown job. But Santorum won’t get out to stop splitting the conservative vote. Ego, bad judgment, buy-off…?
That may be one of Santorum’s worst decisions ever. Can’t argue that. But that one terrible decision doesn’t define Santorum’s whole life…
Everyone makes a few decisions in life that have enormous consequences. In public office, consequences are magnified. Elected officials should LIVE for those moments, to make the right choice. If they don’t it should destroy their careers.
Santorum made a terrible error, with grave consequences for his party, for conservatism, for the pro-life movement, for the nation.
Analogy: a general blunders by getting talked into a strategy he hates–and loses a huge battle, with horrific consequences. He gets a second chance, and gravely harms his side AGAIN by refusing to combine his small force with a larger unit that can win decisively–he wants to show the world he can do it, darn it!
I used to love Santorum until the Specter debacle, and his current selfishness just reinforces that.
OK, I’m done. If you still like Santorum, go for it.
I respect your opinion. I gave up on Bush at TARP. That was the obvious turning point in his career as far as I was concerned. I wanted to take back both my votes for him at that point.
I don’t know if Santorum’s endorsement of Specter is the same order of magnitude thought it was almost certainly the worst decision he has ever made, and it did make a huge difference in the debacle that unfolded since Obama was elected. But frankly, I suspect another senator would have folded if Specter hadn’t been there.
Just my two cents…
Here is a music video that sums up “What it means to be a TEA party republican in the shadow of the REPUBLICAN PARTY INFRASTRUCTURE”.
http://youtu.be/EAchKt2xjsw
Professor: How many psychiatrists are required to change (or save) a light bulb? Just one, but it really has to want to change. What makes you think the Republican Party wants to be saved, and they want you to save it? Don’t forget the first rule of lifesaving: the life you save may be your own.
This is clearly a schism between the elite haves and conservatives who work. Once again we see those lucky enough to be given tree houses to play in making sure others don’t get to climb the ladder.
My brother once observed to me that fat people at the buffet weren’t so much interested in getting things to eat, as they were in depriving others of the good things to eat. Buffet et al have made their fortunes, their willing to have the rules changed so others can’t as well.
Brilliant!
Of course, I’m hardly objective. I think that, too.
First realized it when I found out almost every job relocation tax writeoff had been eliminated.
All right, you dirty little peasants: stay in your places, and if you dare try to be mobile…we’ll make you PAY!
Professor, a caller to the RedEye radio show tonight made an astute observation. Every single person that has endorsed Mitt Romney has been a party to increasing our national debt to 15 trillion dollars. Every single person who endorsed Newt…..was not. Things that make you go hmmmmm.
@ 4:06 in the vid, this buffoon calls Rick “Santiorium.” What a mindless party hack this Harpootlian guy is.
I have to laugh at that: a Democrat in the South, leading the party of secession, calling the Republican party raaaaacist because they are not “reaching out enough” – and holding a debate on MLK day….just like the Democrats did in 2008!!
Rich, and ripe, if O’Reilly was as low as Ed Schultz, Al Sharpton, etc., who would have gone there and called the guest raaaacist.
I find it ironic, in light of all the (mostly Dem) attacks on Newt about the “foodstamp president”=raaaaacist, that the only exception to his faux accusation is Newt. 😉
Hmmmm, thought just occured to me. nasty as it is, I will say this….the husband of a SC house of representatives member sent out Christmas cards a few years ago with the photo of a dead black man on the front and inside is said something to the effect of “hope you get what you want for christmas”. Yes, he and his wife have the big D beside their name, and gush over D Harpootlian. hmmm………………
You cannot be serious……..someone in this day and age did that – and it didn’t get any media attention?
Of course, it was sent by a member of the protected party, the party of MSM choice, which explains so much. And a state rep, so less national “merit” from the biased lame stream media’s perspective.
Name? Link? More info, please.
I’m trying to get my hands on one, will scan and post link when I do. Funny thing is, This guy is on county council, has wanted to be a political player for the longest time and is constantly telling me that people like me have no place in politics….typical elitist train of thought. I emailed a friend to see if he had a copy, he already senses that there is malfeasance afoot and backpedaled on the issue. tough cookies for him, as my father had a copy and it is probably still floating around his shop somewhere.
Good to see the Card Game back, Professor! I’ve missed it!! 😀