When will Dems unleash full “Palin treatment” on Carly Fiorina?
Just wait for it.
A good way to predict the future is to look at the past.
Using this approach, I have some predictions about what is likely to happen next in the campaign of my current favorite presidential aspirant: Carly Fiorina. To do so, I will look at what happened to Sarah Palin in the wake of her dynamic speech accepting the GOP nomination for Vice President.
Palin’s presentation was so energetic and moving that she instantly became a target of smears by progressives across the nation, particularly progressive feminists. Her hair, clothing, accent, and family were demeaned, degraded, and dismissed during the 2008 campaign season, and her humiliation is still not complete (e.g., Jon Stewart deriding the “folksy idioms” used by Palin during the Iowa Freedom Summit).
Fiornia just gave a brilliant performance and an amazing introduction to the American people…so let the mocking begin:
During Thursday’s undercard debate, former Hewlett-Packard CEO Carly Fiorina noted her business experience, which during her tenure saw the tech company’s revenue double to $90 billion.
Democrats, predictably, disagreed with her description of her experience, so they tweeted the following:
Fiorina says her business experience prepared her to be president. But under her “leadership,” HP stock fell 53%. pic.twitter.com/wISVdxDyu0
— The Democrats (@TheDemocrats) August 6, 2015
For those who weren’t watching the debate, Fiorina wore a pink suit. Of all the disbelief GIFs the Democrats could have chosen, they chose one of a small blonde girl in a pink jacket?
Had this been a tweet from the Republicans about Hillary Clinton, the phrase “war on women” certainly would have been attached. It should be no difference for the Democrats.
I am sure that there will be more banality, too. The review of her business history is fair game, and in all probability, she is poised to ably defend herself. However, I suspect that comparing her to a little girl is going to be rather ineffective.
On the plus side for Palin, she became an instant style icon following her speech. For example, many American women still want to figure out to get Palin’s hair:
And the fascination with Palin’s shoes is legendary.
So, I predict that the sales of pink suits will skyrocket in the wake of the GOP debate. I am personally planning to buy one. Fiorina oozed power, smarts, and class during the Fox News hosted event. Women who want to emulate her success will be inclined to copy her style.
Palin’s family was the focus of much sensational reporting. Who can forget the left’s psychotic obsession over Trig? More recently, a charity was targeted by IRS employee Lois Lerner because of Bristol Palin’s involvement.
The Senate Finance Committee released the results of its two-year investigation into the Internal Revenue Service’s targeting of conservative groups Wednesday, with revealing looks at Lerner’s emails.
One email, cited by Chairman Orrin Hatch as an “example of Lerner’s interest in conservative organizations,” asked whether the IRS should open an audit of Candie’s Foundation, which paid Palin $332,500 in compensation to be a celebrity spokesperson. Lerner was concerned that the salary figure could violate IRS rules against charitable groups being for the private benefit of individuals.
I hope Fiorina’s family is prepared for the onslaught.
Even though Fiorina is very different than Palin in many aspects, they are both dangerous to progressives. Fiornia is especially so right now, since she offers such a remarkable contrast to the dull, humorless, and style-challenged Hillary Clinton.
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Really, from a global perspective, Palin was treated the way most conservative candidates are.
There’s a Big Golden Book Of Collectivist Tactics, and they haven’t added a page since before Reagan. It looked a little different with Palin for a couple of reasons; they’d never gone full crazy against a woman, they’d never sunk to the depths they did, and Palin scared them spitless because she had a solid record as a reformer who worked with anybody, and was not a plantation-grown woman.
But it’s always about some variations on “he/she’s stupid”, “he/she is a war-monger”, “he/she wants to starve chilrens and g’ma”, “he/she is crazy”.
That’s all they got, and you’ll see it here.
Also they consider, “He or she is a devout Christian” to be a major insult.
But it isn’t just the women. That’s one reason we should let our young rising stars gain more experience before we throw them to the wolves. A record to point to, like Walker can, is a defense against the assault.
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Dan Quayle and Sarah Palin were early in their political careers, but the full-tilt attacks from being nominated as running mates effectively ended their political careers. Both continued to serve, but their national potential had been poisoned by the attacks.
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Fiorina’s been around the horn. Politics is rough business, but business is for money. They will try, but I doubt they can tarnish her in the same way.
Carly is far less vulnerable to the claims of being stupid than Palin because of both her age and her family background. Palin was not only young, she was from strictly middle class roots in a state most Americans see as as populated by bumpkins and Eskimos. Palin had also attended undistinguished schools.
Carly is from a vastly different background. Her father taught at several noted law schools- University of Texas, Cornell and Stanford -before becoming Dean of Duke. He also served as an Deputy Attorney General and on the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals. Her mother was an artist. Carly herself received her BA from Stanford, was admitted to UCLA law school and has a Master’s in Management from the Sloan School at MIT. Because of her parents’ several relocations and sabbatical years she traveled a lot while growing up. For a while she attended the Channing School in London. One of the several high schools she attended was in Ghana.
I suspect what the left will focus on is to label her as mean because of the firings after the HP-Compaq merger and out of touch because od her wealth and because she is strongly pro-life.
Don’t forget: He/she is mean/hater/phobe.
The left will of course go after Fiorina once she crosses 5%. The question of her survival will hinge on whether the GOPe go after her too, in defense of Jeb!, whom I call Mr. Zzzzzzz, and Kasich, Mr. Zzzzzz’s designated VP.
I suspect we have reached the point were no major party will have a ticket consisting of two straight, white males again. It is not necessary to pick a VP from the candidate list, but if it is obvious that Clinton will be the Dem candidate, Fiorina is the perfect anti-Palin.
The Donald will have to use: ‘you could see there was
blood coming out of her eyesear wax coming out of her ears, …Eh, Donnie?Fiorina impressed a hell of a lot of folks, in her debut as a candidate, however her leadership at HP will come into play.
Fiorina, when interviewed by Phillip Klein of American Spectator, said that, had she been a Senator, she would have voted for Sonia Sotomayor for the Supreme Court. In that case, I could not ever, under any circumstances, vote for Fiorina.
Well, if she’s president she can nominate SC candidates, but the Senate approves. The exposure she’s getting this year can only improve her chances of running for the Senate again and quite possibly winning. Fiorina was born in Texas. If Ted Cruz goes to the WH, he leaves an open Senate seat behind him. Better to put her in the WH, lol.
“running for the Senate again and quite possibly winning”
Uh, Henry, she’s from California. No way, ever. At least not before the damn state slides into the Pacific.
Should finish reading, you are suggesting she move to Texas and run for the vacant senate seat left by President Cruz?
Stranger things have happened. Like US Senator Hillary Clinton (NY).
More a thought than a prediction, a exercise in logic, in reply to userpen’s fear of a President Fiorina putting a lib on the SC. She could only nominate and might have more power over who goes/doesn’t go to the SC as a senator.
Fiorina is very much different than Palin. And I liked Palin a lot. Fiorina has an amazing command of the facts both in quantity, depth and speed of recall. Her mouth is so fast I haven’t seen anybody shut her down yet. Of course, the mouth is connected to the mind. I think she is significantly more intelligent than Palin. She answers questions directly and the only shifting, if any, is to concentrate on her point of view on a subject. She is a bit warmer than Palin and it seems natural, She has a more highly developed sense of humor than Palin. Fiorina will be harder to mess with especially face to face. They will have to snipe at her from the media. If she gets the nod she will eat Hillary. Clinton is often halting and slow in her speech. I think Carly thinks twice as fast as Clinton. And Clinton’s record is non stop fodder. Fiorina will get out in front early and Hillary will be on the ropes almost immediately. At the end of the first debate Hillary will be down for the count. I have watched many Fiorina speeches and interviews and, of course, I have observed Hillary since 1992. The outcome is so obvious. It may become obvious to Hillary’s team and they may refuse to debate. They may decide that a failure to engage is less costly than a total wipe out.
Carly with the nomination completely negates the Dem war on women meme. She has a humble background that can be viewed favorably by most American women. Women comprise 54% of voters and I think that as many as 10% or more would vote for Hillary just because she’s a woman. Just like with Obama for blacks. And face it, it’s probably time for a woman president. We got them this far so that they’re getting into combat units and pretty much do any kind of job men do including executive positions so perhaps it’s time to go all the way and make one President. But not Hillary. Even the toughest of men could vote for Carly for the simple reason that she is the toughest of women.
“Carly with the nomination completely negates the Dem war on women meme”
Hardly. It didn’t for Palin, why would you expect it to for Fiorina?
The DNC statement about HP stock betrays their ignorance of finance and business.
The stock split two-for-one during her tenure.
Math be hard, yo?
Wrong.
Fiorina destroyed thousands of American engineering careers. You support that, you are a traitor and should be swinging by the neck.
Madness. Well, and complete economic ignorance.
Good Collectivist, though.
No.
Disliking what Fiorina did to HP does not make one a “collectivist.” There is more to a company than stock price; many conservatives value long-term thinking and planning over a short-term spectacle.
No. Being a long-standing Collectivist troll makes one a “Collectivist”.
Being an economic imbecile who posts repeatedly about BSD MBAs who grind the faces of worker as a talisman for anyone in management makes one a Collective troll.
Or do you endorse his bullshit?
The stock decline included splits … duh. If you’re going to mock someone on math, it’s good to be right. Any basic stock chart will include adjustments for splits.
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Faboutlaws, totally agree. As long as Carly is in the running, she will remind the electorate what a competent female contender looks like. I must admit, I wasn’t impressed with her campaign in California. I think she’s really upped her game.
Plus, don’t forget that Palin wrote a couple of reminders on her palm with a ballpoint vs. using a teleprompter. The MSM pointed to that as an example of her being a backwoods dimwit (vs. their favorite alumni from Harvard, that big-time looser Obama).
You are absolutely right. The Clinton must now try to destroy her because she is recognized as a real threat. So prepare for everything you ave come to expect from the Clintons –and more. The lies, baseless attacks, rumors, innuendo, .. the Clinton dogs of war will be unleashed. This is who they are.
When will the Carly is a C**t T-shirts come out?
If they try to paint her as stupid I can’t wait for the retort that just like Chelsea Clinton, Carly majored in History at Stanford.
When will Dems unleash full “Palin treatment” on Carly Fiorina?
Just before the GOP Establishment does, would be my guess.
Carly Fiorina is a breakout “DC Outsider,” and in for pummeling including in sexual ways, like a pinata wearing lipstick.
Most people would not use such tactics but political operatives in the media, academia, entertainment, and politics feel few reservations or compunctions.
As I recall, Palinizing her in her CA Senate run was par for the course, besides just saying she’s a Republican over and over (which to most CA voters is anathema).
She is strong, and I’m glad she is getting more attention.
And, more scrutiny. She is a moderate – and that needs to be given more light.
I agree Marie.
Fiorina is moderate in some ways & conservative in others.
This is national, not blue-state, politics so we will see what happens.
Collopswaddle. Palin has what Fiorina lacks: a proven and lengthy record of achievement. Plus, she’s a solid Christian. Fiorina with her highly favorable view of Islam is not so done I want to vote for. http://gatesofvienna.net/2015/08/what-did-carly-fiorina-really-say-about-islam-after-9-11/. Who needs another won’t say Islamic terrorism I. The WH?
Before this, I liked Fiorina. Now that I’ve begun digging up her record, I don’t much care for what I see. Palin believes what she says. Fiorina, I don’t know. If she believes what she says about Islam and other issues, she’s a lunatic.
The speech she gave on islam was a few weeks after 9-11. It was not a whole lot different than that made by President Bush. Lots of people thought that way at the time. In the present she talks about islamic terrorism being the major foreign policy issue. What she needs to do is to engage Robert Spencer from Jihad Watch as an adviser. If so, she will never make a mistake about islam again. You will never find anybody more forthright and honest than him on the subject. I have been reading Jihad Watch since 2006 and I have a good feeling about him, he has never been caught in a lie about islam. I think that Spencer would look at her and say she is a person he could support. This is based on hundreds, if not thousands of articles he has written. I think Carley gets the point about islam now. You can’t look at something from 14 years ago and project it to the present.
In a *just* society, Fiorina would be swinging by the neck from a lamppost, pour encourager les autres.
Why is it every writer and nearly all commentors miss the point. Politics is not about Brains, though Palin has PROVEN to millions she is just fine in this department. Obviously those who believe they went to the RIGHT school are smarter than everyone else, and nothing else matters. Well of course other things matter.
Its called adulthood. How many people in public life that have had the very best educations and come off as morons, jerks, or just believe in things that just plain wrong. Politics is about connecting with people, not because you share a similar background (bumpkins and eskimos – not too prejudice?), but because they TRUST that person.
One of the reasons Palin was picked by McCain is because of the Honesty & Integrity Palin earned as Gov. of Alaska. This is why she had astronomical approval numbers (over 90%). Carly Fiorina has not earned those numbers, nor the trust that Sarah Palin has and therefore not the popularity. Is she smarter than Palin? Maybe!, but Palin has done things Fiorina hasn’t.
She has taken on her own political Party, and is leading a Conservative reawakening to take back the Republican Party and is succeeding. This is why the Republican leadership have never liked her (before she ever became Gov.) and it wasn’t the LEFT that took Sarah Palin down. It was within her own Party, and within FoxNews.
Fiorina doesn’t offer that challenge, so she gets highly spoken of within the GOP, but where is her voting base? She respected within the ‘NY to Washington Corridor’, but until she is taken SERIOUSLY, she will avoid the Palin Treatment.
The attacks Palin suffered originated within McCain’s campaign. FoxNews allowed that narrative to be expanded with “Anonymous Sources” on Bill O’Reilly’s show. Palin was abigger threat within the GOp she was ever to the LEFT. However, one reading of the book ‘Game Change’ and you will understand how threatened the Obama Team felt about her: “The Palin Effect’.
The attacks came before her successful Convention Speech, because the LEFT knew who she was, and how popular she had become in Alaska. What is Palin and her daughter had Abortions and never told anyone? Would she still be considered ‘White Trash’? Amazing how backwards our nation has become. No what happened was the exposure of how deeply prejudice our nation has become, and not by race, but by a division of if someone had gone to the ‘right’ schools. That’s right you are dismissed at the age of 18 in the ‘NY to Washington’ if you chose the wrong school. What you accomplish over the next 30 years means nothing. That is just hating for the sake of hating,
So, though I like Carly Fiorina, I am going to give all of you who are not aware, what will be the first NASTY attack on Carly, if she challenges the LEFT. HER DAUGHTER COMMITTED SUICIDE!!!!!
Now of course that is not the entire true story, but your never going to get the details of the story unless you do your own homework. You will get the surface attack, and the blogs will be full of, “As CARLY travel the world, she ignore her daughters pain and she killed herself.” The true story is not quite that bad, but you will hear about it, if Carly gains grown.
There was definitely an unreliable jerk in the McCain camp, but you are so wrong to think the attacks originated with Fox. Maybe you saw reporting of them on Fox, but I was evading the Washington post as well as other sources. It was full court press from the left, unrelenting, nasty, and often baseless.
“”evading”? for “reading”? I hate “help” with my typing.
It’s alright. I evade the Washington Post myself. :-{)}}
One of the attacks (as we see here at LI even) is on her time at HP. Carly has experience, and it seems she was brought in by the board to implement her ATT way (she came from success at ATT & Lucent), but that didn’t go over very well with the US tech workers. But in managing costs, outsourcing labor and using H1B visas was the trend, and an obligation to the shareholder in some respects.
Some here blame the Compaq merger on her, and say it was a disaster. 49% of shareholders and son of Hewlett were against it but it won approval. She now uses those increased sales to demonstrate her success, but that came at great cost, and profits did not improve. The share price reflects that, but she defends the share price as being during the great tech depression … fair enough but HP declined more than others. The acquisition was an expensive part of that decline, which perhaps yielded future benefits.
Carly fends off the worst of the claims with a barrage of stats, but I think most fair is that the board hired her to go to the ATT way, and that was not a roaring success, mostly a failure. But she clearly gained broad experience and is a very competent person.
We mostly have to listen to what she is “selling” now, and in time I want to see what she has done the last ten years more than what she did at HP. I don’t care for her “I started as a secretary” line much, since that seemed like a job while she was in school, and her upbringing and father’s prominence surely afforded her more open doors than most secretaries have, but at least she did the job.
As long as Carly can “bring it”, that is what counts. Her father no doubt built a lot of her abilities into her, which doesn’t make her better or worse than Palin, but makes her more polished for this role.
this seems like an objective review of her HP time
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carly_Fiorina#Hewlett-Packard_.28HP.29
Blaming a company’s performance on one CEO is often (not always) a fool’s errand. There are just WAY too many very complex variables to make that kind of allegation with any verity.
Also, noting someone is a very facile and glib speaker is not the same as evaluating their intelligence. And especially not their wisdom or common sense. I was comparing Fiorina with Cruz the other day, and noted that Cruz is much more halting in his speech patterns.
Calvin Coolidge was perhaps the very icon of a Conservative president in terms of what he DID. He was NOT a “great communicator”, and seems to have actually shunned the limelight that so many politicians hunger for.
Now, certainly not for the better, IMNHO, Presidents are expected to be at least good speech-a-fiers. But that simply cannot be the prime quality we look for. Core VALUES are what I think most important.
I am coming to think that Fiorina should be offered a V-P slot, but I’m open to having her show me some of her core values that would convince me she’s who we need now in the Oval Office.
The progressive fascist party only exists because of women and minorities. They have to destroy all conservative women and minorities and their is nothing that they won’t stoop to. Just look how they attacked Palin’s baby. They have a lot in common with their predecessors the KKK.