UK Won’t Share Some Intelligence With U.S. Due to Strikes on Suspected Drug Vessels
The British think the strikes violate international law.
The United Kingdom will stop sharing intelligence with the U.S. regarding possible drug smuggling boats in the Caribbean, according to CNN.
The UK said it “does not want to be complicit in US military strikes and believes the attacks are illegal.”
The UK used to help the US identify these boats, sending any information to the Joint Interagency Task Force South in Florida. The Coast Guard would intercept these boats so they could stop and board the vessels, detain the crew, and seize any drugs.
The Trump administration started striking the boats in early September. I think the military has conducted 17 strikes, killing 76 people.
The British think the strikes violate international law.
President Donald Trump disagrees:
Before the US military began blowing up boats in September, countering illicit drug trafficking was handled by law enforcement and the US Coast Guard, Cartel members and drug smugglers were treated as criminals with due process rights — something the UK was happy to help with, the sources said.
But the Trump administration has argued that the US military can legally kill suspected traffickers because they pose an imminent threat to Americans and are “enemy combatants” who are in an “armed conflict” with the US, according to a memo sent by the administration to Congress. The Justice Department’s Office of Legal Counsel issued an opinion, which is still classified, reinforcing that argument, CNN has reported, and Trump has designated a number of drug cartels as “foreign terrorist groups.” The White House has said repeatedly that the administration’s actions “comply fully with the Law of Armed Conflict,” the area of international law that is designed to prevent attacks on civilians.
The military has targeted suspected drug boats in the Caribbean and the Eastern Pacific.
The latest one happened on Sunday in the Eastern Pacific. Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth said the operation took out six boats, killing six people.
The last one in the Caribbean took place on November 6.
In each post, Hegseth has said intelligence connected the boats to a Designated Terrorist Organization.
Hegseth also defends each strike in every announcement, insisting that U.S. intelligence confirms that all of these vessels are “involved in illicit narcotics smuggling.”
“These narco-terrorists are bringing drugs to our shores to poison Americans at home—and they will not succeed,” Hegseth wrote on November 1. “The Department will treat them EXACTLY how we treated Al-Qaeda. We will continue to track them, map them, hunt them, and kill them.”
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Isn’t the UK intelligence community now run by some invader bimbo? Did we expect anything different?
The UK is controlled by invaders. That “special relationship “ so often spoken of does not exist.
I should’ve said no longer exists.
That’s fur certain. I am em-bear-ust.
The whole situation gives one paws…
🐻
From the MI6 web site:
Blaise Metreweli is a career intelligence officer, having joined the Service in 1999. She has undertaken a range of roles across the Service, most recently Director General Technology and Innovation or ‘Q’. Blaise has spent most of her career in operational roles in the Middle East and Europe. She studied Anthropology at Pembroke College, Cambridge.
the dirty harry anti woke scripts just keep playing out how real they wer then
how real they are now
“records and personnel” is for aaaholes
And I would also expect the SAS now focuses on DEI. There’s no institution the left cannot corrupt and destroy. Because that’s actually their goal.
They are about due to be bailed out again, this time in WW3.
No, it isn’t. I don’t know what possible definition of “invader” could be stretched to include her.
I know I read something about this in the last two months, and I’m almost certain I read it here. I made a comment about not being able to trust any of the Five Eyes countries anymore. But I can’t find it, because the website’s own search feature doesn’t search comments, and Googles “site:” search feature works only sporadically on them. It was some high-up in the UK’s IC, or perhaps their equivalent of the Chairman of the Intelligence Committee, or someone else placed in enough of a catbird seat to allow her to “share” Trump’s ME strategies with the wrong side.
I still don’t know what you mean by “invader” in this context. Whoever it was that you were commenting on, in what way was that person an “invader”?
Was the person Blaise Metreweli, the head of MI6? If so, in what sense do you think she’s an “invader”?
A Muslim refugee, adoptee, whatever you want to call them.
I don’t know whether the person I remember reading about was the person you named or not. I attempted to search LI for the article I remember reading using the only two tools available and couldn’t find it.
Both countries are at war with third world invaders.
The difference is Trump knows it while the UK surrenders to Momammed Mcrapey-stabby-fugee.s
The UK has long since passed the tipping point of non-native, non-citizen residents. It is a conquered country.
Per Michael Savage…no borders, no culture, no language…. no country Also one cannot have a welfare state and open borders. The goal of the EU was to dissolve nationhood. Instead they dissolved themselves.
Right, because blatant violation of our sovereignty by smuggling illegal drugs into our country doesn’t violate international law.
Tell me, UK ‘experts’, who is responsible for enforcing this ‘international law’.
The ICC is a joke that spends 90% of its time trying to screw Israel.
well spoken
Lyndon LaRouche (back in the 1980s) claimed that QE II was the biggest drug dealer in the world. Everyone scoffed at that. Now formerly Great Britain has gone and makes me go hmmmm . . .
Great Britain is still as great as it always was. 80,823 sq mi. The UK going to the dogs politically doesn’t change the island’s area.
Kansas? Well, it’s good, but it’s not Great.
We really need to reevaluate all out relationships with our former best buds.
I think we also need to cancel the leases on all of the ballistic missile warheads that we have leased to them.
Be a real shame for them if we were to moderate our cooperation based on speculative garbage.
Looking at “The Five Eyes”….. UK, Canada, and New Zealand are untrustworthy and Australia is suspect. The CommonWorthless is firmly in the Caliphate Zone.
Which is why we shouldnt help Australia build nuke subs. We shouldn;t help SK either. They play footsie with the chinese. (withdraw our 35K troops too).
agree except
keep the troops there dont withdraw them
The “k” in U.K.
now stands for mayor Khan
the takeover of the west is in the middle innings
the foundation is set and wont be broken,,,,well, not by legislative means anyways
The USA has a titular ( yeah,, I chuckled too) government at the federal level
as the locals ( big blue cities) have already been overrun by their prisoners set free by decree ….
bringing harm is the REAL violation of law as being done to the citizens by the terrororgs
but of course…..lefty must allow their criminals to have the upper hand as we are set up to fail as the law abiding citizens..
all wars are ironic as the peaceful people must rise up and do violence to those who only know violence
they want you to believe the charlie kirk murder is somehow an isolated incident …trump an isolated incident……street crimes ..just beefs between rival gangs…nothing for you to worry about…….as in true criminal justice reform as in sentencing the criminals to decades if not the death penalty itself
the “great” bbc had to admit,,,when caught…that they doctored the trump speech regarding jan 6
and whats the punishment ?????
nothing to lefty but a devastated western europe/usa in shambles
covid19 = illegal immigration surge = totalitarian overtaking of judeo christian agenda
f the pope
f the leftists who have made this possible
and f the gop rinos who are against the department of war as we are under attack non stop
maga
Willful blindness infects all liberals.
Is it polite to say in good company that if the same tactics were used 10 years ago against migrant boats the UK wouldn’t be in the mess they’re in right now?
Don’t need a boat. Can use the chunnel.
they wanted the mess
not the good people but lefty knows how to takeover the land
and since patriots back down with the specter of racism /loss of jobs etc being in your path
they waited for the right wing gov to do something so they knew they’d have the physical backing
but just like the usa
thats allll crumbled ….thank a rino for that
The real question is whether MI6 contributes anything of worth regarding drugs in the Caribbean. They abandon trying to operate there in the 60s and the Caymans drug money laundering effort in early 2000s was a bungling fiasco.
Looks like another Keir Starmer chest thumping to gain street cred against Trump and divert attention to the Chinese spying within the UK.
(https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/keir-starmer-china-government-mi5-chinese-b2846730.html#)
Starmers “worry” about the chinese is that the local muss might be set off by any dealings with the chinese that could usurp the muss power surge in the uk
Just a theoretical here.
Here in this country, when a state or local government refuses to help the Federal authorities enforce criminal statutes [drugs, hostile foreign invaders, etc.] there are more than a few in the law enforcement world who wonder who in those state and local governments could be profiting from that lack of enforcement. Would it not be reasonable for Americans to wonder something similar about signatories of international treaties concerning international illegal drug smuggling and/or terrorism?
Hmmm.
Subotai Bahadur
There’s a phrase for this… Cui bono is a Latin phrase that means “who benefits?”, and is used to suggest that there’s a high probability that those responsible for a certain event are the ones who stand to gain from it.
Having been in the Navy intel biz for 25 years, I don’t think not having UK intel will make a damn bit of difference.
There is no such thing as international law.
There are “agreements”, but no overarching judicial framework that we acknowledge. And for good reason.
And we should not be sharing any intel with totalitarian governments.
That has always been the American view. The UK has always disagreed. So it’s no surprise that the UK would be worried about infringing this “international law” while the USA doesn’t care. The UK regards it as binding, the USA doesn’t, it’s as simple as that.
A lot of that is because the USA has refused to become a signatory to all the virtue-signaling treaties that the Euros hold dear. The Paris Accords, the UN Small Arms Treaty… hell, we haven’t even adopted the Hague Convention! (We did adopt the Geneva Convention, tho.)
This difference in perspective dates back to long before that. Indeed it may be that you’ve put the cart before the horse, and the UK’s willingness to sign all these stupid things may be the result of its view that “international law” is binding anyway, so it doesn’t hurt to sign, while the USA, which has always denied that there is such a thing as binding international law that isn’t based on treaties that a nation has voluntarily signed, is therefore reluctant to sign such things and thus bind itself to them.
The difference dates way back to when the British felt their naval might made THEM INTERNATIONAL LAW. They still think they are that relevant.
The UK is a Muslim nation now so we should stop shaing ANYTHING with them!
I bet we’re reading their intelligence before they do.
British intelligence is a pop-up book.
“Where in The World Are Carmen And Diego?”
After all the evil shenanigans the English have taken part in over the years, the bridge that’s too far for them is killing drug dealers?
As demonstrably unintelligent as the UK is these days, they should hoard that last remaining brain cell.
As I remember, UK intelligence helped establish the Russia Collusion hoax.
With friends like that …
helped establish? Hah???!!! They created the whole thing out o whole cloth, on demand by corrupt Yank operatives, KNOWING what it was all about. Eyes wde open, empty hands eagerly waiting to be loaded up.
Past time to stop pretending any other Nation is our friend. They ain’t, we just temporarily share one or more common interests. The rest of world largely either hates us, is jealous/resentful of us, wants to destroy us or to subjugate us. We don’t have permanent friends/allies only permanent interests. When our interests diverge from those of our ‘friends/allies’ they will drop us like a rock. See the protectionist trade policies of our closest ‘friends and allies’ who established very harmful tariff and non tariff trade barriers that harm US workers, US businesses and the US economy.
To be the truthful all nations don’t have friends just common interests. You never know when a change of government will change the relationship.
This is why people who are read into high clearances are warned that sharing intel with our “friends” is just as criminal as sharing it with our “rivals.” EVERY other country is shaking with one hand while screwing you with the other hand.
If anybody could be bothered to take the time to look back in history, they would find that the U.S. Military, esp. the Navy, has long been used for such efforts. Even as far back as the days of the Barbary coast pirates, the Navy would go out and look for them, and sink their ships. One can then fast forward and see other times when the Navy was used in what could be termed as ‘Search and Destroy’ missions to take out various threats on different levels that the President felt were a danger to this country, and it’s people. The only reason that the U.K. or any other country has anything to say about this is pure TDS. If it were ANY other President, there would not be so much as a peep.
The UK has intelligence? The country that is jailing their own citizens for practicing free speech? F them.
So the Limeys are all knicker-beknotted over some 97 drug smuggler deaths? Awwwww, let’s all have a group whinge…….
Someone tell them about the 100,000 Yank deaths due to the drugs that made it across the Carribean to our shores.
Well, it turns out this story is false. Or at least so Rubio says, and he’s more likely to be telling the truth than CNN is.
If true, we don’t actually need it. We have the most sophisticated intelligence gathering in the world.