Deja Vu? Climate Study Hints at New Ice Age
The 1970s called, they want their climate panic back.
Legal Insurrection readers will recall that this summer I noted that every hot summer day was being reported as a climate apocalypse, with new phrases being created to generate clicks and panic.
Now that winter is coming, its time to retool the narrative. Climate scientists say a vital Atlantic current could falter within decades, an event they claim might spark a new ice age, according to a controversial new paper.
The apocalyptic predictions came as a result of a collaboration between researchers at the Institute of Oceanology of the Chinese Academy of Sciences (IOCAS) and the University of California, San Diego — weeks after one-time climate alarmist Bill Gates publicly downplayed the impact of temperature fluctuations on the planet.
Per the new findings, the at-risk current in question is the Atlantic Meridional Overturning Circulation or AMOC, a “conveyor belt of the ocean” that funnels warm water toward the ocean surface — from the tropics to the Northern Hemisphere.
This current, which includes the Gulf Stream that runs from the Gulf of Mexico to the US East Coast and across the Atlantic to Europe, helps maintain the mild climate of Europe, the UK, and the US East Coast.
The study stated that the source of this marine temperature regulator, the Greenland Ice sheet, is being thawed amid warming temperatures, causing meltwater runoff to leach into the North Atlantic — leading to stagnation.
The Gulf Stream is near collapse, scientists warn — inviting a new ice age and rising sea levels https://t.co/mtZqDdQwce pic.twitter.com/37bikEYbXU
— New York Post (@nypost) November 12, 2025
The paper is published as a Nature Briefing, in its the journal Communications Earth & Environment. To begin with, there are a couple of concerns I have outside of the actual analysis.
China and its scientists have a keen interested in promoting climate panic in the West, as they can then sell us solar panels and EV while they build coal plants. The author list raises by level of skepticism exponentially.
Furthermore, “Nature” is now experiencing a backlash by real scientists who are tired of touting ideology. Climate claims of this magnitude, projecting weather and currents decades into the future have of history….of being absolutely bogus. The brand has been damaged by DEI, and the effects are just starting to be seen.
Let’s turn to the paper for a few moments and review what the authors say about the AMOC collapse creating a new period of glaciation.
The researchers assert that mid-depth warming (1000–2000 meters below sea level) in the equatorial Atlantic is a clear sign that a major current called AMOC is slowing down, mainly due to “human-driven” climate change. They argue that surface temperatures in the ocean can be very noisy and affected by short-term local weather, making them unreliable for spotting long-term trends. By looking deeper, these scientists claim that found that sustained warming between 1000 and 2000 meters in the equatorial Atlantic and say its a much clearer signal of AMOC slowdown, since it’s less impacted by short-term variability.
The rest of the analysis relies on computer models.
It is theorized that the AMOC weakens or collapses, less heat reaches northern Europe and the Arctic, so winter temperatures can plunge several degrees, even as other parts of the world remain warm or get warmer. Colder conditions cause more sea ice to expand southward from the Arctic, reaching the coasts of northern Europe. Sea ice reflects sunlight instead of absorbing it, which amplifies cooling—this is called the “ice-albedo feedback”. As a result, the region loses more heat to space, and temperatures drop further.
Thus, a new ice age begins. It’s the 1970’s all over again.
Over the years, I’ve been told the following eco-disasters would destroy earth (in order): New Ice Age, Acid Rain, Ozone Hole, Global Warming, Global Weirding, Climate Change, New Ice Age. The solution for each was to give the UN more power, end capitalism, and expand government.
— Jon Gabriel (@exjon) November 12, 2025
Meteorologist Chris Martz has an analysis with data that refutes these claims.
No. No, it probably isn’t.
Let me explain. . .
One of the latest (and most persistent) climate scares is that the Atlantic Multidecadal Overturning Oscillation (AMOC) is on the verge of “collapse” in the coming decades. The implication of this would be that Europe is sent into… https://t.co/7Esp16EhbJ pic.twitter.com/g0VT6ZEiLM
— Chris Martz (@ChrisMartzWX) November 12, 2025
In a nutshell, the AMOC is stable and collapse is unlikely to happen quickly or without extraordinary conditions. For example, using air-sea heat flux as an indicator, another team of researchers found no evidence of AMOC weakening between 1963 and 2017. Many climate models only show an AMOC collapse if much more freshwater is added to the Atlantic than occurred even during massive past ice sheet melts, and such model collapses usually take several hundred years to appear.
However, the hysteria is beginning. Iceland has already designated this theoretical scenario a national security threat.
Iceland has designated this the potential collapse of a major Atlantic Ocean current system a national security concern and an existential threat, enabling its government to strategize for worst-case scenarios, the country’s climate minister told Reuters.
The Atlantic Meridional Overturning Circulation, or AMOC, current brings warm water from the tropics northward toward the Arctic, and the flow of warm water helps keep Europe’s winters mild.
Iceland has declared threat to Atlantic Ocean current a national security risk, a potential collapse of which could trigger a modern-day ice age, with winter temperatures across Northern Europe plummeting to new cold extremes https://t.co/33MOWrq2aS pic.twitter.com/ZhPgbGpWze
— Reuters (@Reuters) November 12, 2025
If globalist bureaucrats and their media minions can’t stoke fear about heat waves, then it’s time to stoke them about snow and ice…in time for winter.
AMOC fear-mongering is again in the news since hurricane season is no longer a climate alarmist talking point. There is no data showing the AMOC ever collapsed, plus snazzy graphs of AMOC forecasts are as useless as Al Gore’s award winning forecasts. https://t.co/TuAc0aZaHV pic.twitter.com/yNxtU4WwHN
— John Shewchuk (@_ClimateCraze) November 8, 2025
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Time to dust off that old Newsweek cover.
So you mean Al Gore was wrong about the polar bears ? Hmmm ; should he return the Oscar he won for his power point presentation?
Al Gore should go join Lesley and sing “It’s my party and I’ll cry if I want to.”
Even more ironically, the Gore family wealth was sourced, in part, from coal mines in Tennessee. Al Gore is a privileged man who once having achieved fame and fortune actively sought to limit others from fortune, if not fame, through his over-the-top public angst over global warming.
Let’s not forget the Gore family connection to tobacco.
Don’t even need to read it to know I won’t trust it.
It’s from China and Left Coast US version of China.
It’s also curious that both are on coasts that don’t border the ocean for the current they are targeting. That doesn’t necessarily mean it’s a disqualifier, but you would expect at least one monitoring body in the area to be in on this.
Let the Europeans freeze in the dark. Just saying.
One struggle down, The ecological struggle, the feminist struggle, the decolonial struggle, the environmental struggle, the anti-imperialist struggle, the anti-capitalist struggle, and the death of man.
I know what’s causing this: fossil fuels/CO2. They’re magical, they can do anything.
If climate “science” was,really a science and testable, I might be somewhat concerned. Unfortunately, it has degenerated into a religious cult led by charlatans and grifters. Consequently, I tend to dismiss all such dire warnings.
When in danger
When in doubt
Run in circles
Scream and shout
Seems like the logic for a lot of ‘climate experts’
The AMO runs in 60-70 years cycles which has been known since fisherman discovered it in the mid 1700’s. Any study that downplays the 60-70 year cycle is junk alarmist science.
Everything about climate “science” is junk.
Not everything about climate science is junk, though a significant portions of climate science is junk.
You mean the cooling as predicted from solar cycles that will switch back to warming in a few decades?
No, this isn’t the 70s “ice age” prediction all over again. This is a new wrinkle: The world is cooling because of the warming! (And, of course, it’s all our fault)
The crazy never stops.
Exactly right.
“We all gonna freeze to death cuz we is melting Iceland!”
Never understood why “granite ice cubes” never caught on.
Maybe it was a radon issue.
The climatistas have probably come to the realization the glacial period occur on 125K cycles, and we are at the end of the current interglacial.
All “global warming” could do is forestall that…
So sea levels were approximately 100 meters lower than today during the last ice age. Please explain to me why sea levels would rise during a new ice age. Utter rubbish.
paraphrasing star trek
Space the final frontier
Science the final frontier – at least for climate scientists and alarmists.
Well, the current scam ain’t working no more, recycle an old one. Everything old is New Again
They might as well reprint their articles from the 1820s when they started this detritus.
Just hire my wife. She’ll find a way to set the temperature of the Greenland Ice Sheet to whatever makes her happy.
Hah! I married her sister.
It’d a shame ‘science ‘ has shot themselves in the foot before.
Ice ages come and ice ages go, some freeze the Thames in winter, some put a mile of ice on top of the Great lakes.
The muslim invasion of Europe will stop if it gets too cold for them. Maybe it will even cause them to go back to their own countries
The cold weather hasn’t slowed the muslim invasion in minnesota or maine.
Just saying…
This isn’t new. They’ve tried pushing this exact one before.
The Gulf Steam is still a constant 72 degrees as it passes Florida. The Pacific current that passes from North to South along the coasts of Alaska and the West Coast is still a constant 60 degrees. (I’m pulling that one from the memory bank might be a few degrees warmer or cooler). My question is why are none of the other ocean currents aren’t studied? Where are the predictions of doom for those currents?
This will also cause the collapse of the Bermuda Triangle. I have determined by looking at the map that the AMOC is the controlling factor of the BT. I have also determined it is what it is at the end of the day.
I never realized paranormal phenomena were temperature related. Who knew.
I wish it were the 1970’s again. The other day my kid wanted a peanut butter and jelly sandwich so I stopped to pick up a loaf of bread, a jar of peanut butter and a jar of jelly. Handed the cashier a twenty and watched in dismay as I got back four dollars and change.
The cost of the basic necessities is the real crisis, not whether there’s going to be an extra day of summer (or winter) a hundred years from now.
If this does occur (incredibly unlikely) humanity will adapt just as we have done in and since the Pleistocene epoch.
To paraphrase Al Gore’s warning about ManBearPig from South Park, this sounds super serial.
the raw power of AMOC is orders of magnitude greater than all human power production combined
nothing we do to the atmosphere can affect it
no one really knows for sure why the oceans have warmed since LIA but the answer is probably something even larger, like mantle plumes
it’s also quite likely modern CO2 levels are mainly due to the post-LIA ocean warming, as the ocean contains orders of magnitude more carbon and the paleo record clearly shows warming oceans raise CO2
tails don’t wag dogs
the weather changes….news flash!!
lefty conspires allll day long on how to separate the good people from their money/power
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When I first began flying as an airline pilot in the late 60s, I flew mostly up and down the East Coast from Miami to NYC. In the early 70s, the Chesapeak Bay froze from Norfolk to Baltimore and the North East was solid white! They had to imploy ice breakers to reach the harbor in Baltimore from the Atlantic. All the msm was warning that an ice age was imminent. Then the loons came up with global warming and climate change caused by a natrual product of our atmosphere. Now they have abandoned that silly idea and are set to scare little children about freezing to death.
I took an elective course during getting my Engineering degree that stuck with me since the 70s. The professor explained what was called then “Physical Geography” and would be today the Climate and Earth. She was an expert on the sea, oil drilling, and weather.
She pointed out history of temperature readings, where they were and where they are missing across the globe, what has changed in the years as the temp readings have changed at the locations (urban areas became more concrete, airports had jets affecting the readings), missing areas such as in forests and jungles. Missing readings in oceans. Plus history of weather events being shaped by media as population growth affects todays thoughts.
I realized that what I heard from the media and politicians after that I could never believe it. I would always have to research what was happening and look at the past. My wife who I met in college always calls my too logical due to being an Engineer but people need to realize that most times they are being lied to.
AI knows all, right?
I did a simple Google search for when the next ice age is expected to start and AI confidently informed me not for 100k years because, Gorebal warming, delaying the expected cycle by 90k years. So, yay for Gorebal warming?
Summary by Paula:
a. It could be the globe is warming
b. It could be the globe is cooling
c. It could be something else
d. Nobody knows for sure
This is why they now call it manmade climate change so to cover all bases and all possible climates.
I’ve seen this movie before … literally
This is the plot of “The Day After Tomorrow”
The real danger of climate change has nothing to do with climate. It’s giving government the power to fight climate change as it will destroy our economy and turn our government into a fascist tyranny. Just like that created by the communist party in the USSR.
Greens are nothing but Reds in leeks’ clothing.