Several Injured After Delta Plane Flips Over Upon Landing in Toronto
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Several Injured After Delta Plane Flips Over Upon Landing in Toronto

Several Injured After Delta Plane Flips Over Upon Landing in Toronto

The flight came in from Minneapolis, MN, with 76 passengers and four crew members.

A Delta plane crashed and flipped over at Toronto Pearson International Airport. The incident injured at least 15 people, including one child.

The flight came in from Minneapolis, MN, with 76 passengers and four crew members. The airport canceled all arrivals and departures for now.

Of course, even though the FAA doesn’t have jurisdiction in Canada, the media wasted no time to blame President Donald Trump and Elon Musk:

NBC’s Tom Costello ties Donald Trump, @ElonMusk, and @DOGE to the Delta Airlines crash in Toronto, Canada: “[T]his is going yet again raised a concern about FAA staffing — air traffic control staffing. Now, this is a Canadian air traffic control tower and this is under Canadian authority once it crosses the border. And yet, as you know, there has been this talk about maybe staff cuts at the FAA as a part of President Trump’s effort to trim down the federal workforce. And yet, as you also know, the FAA has been complaining for years that they are understaffed in critical job positions, especially air traffic control. I was having a conversation with somebody today about whether air traffic control and Americans being affected by the staff cuts so far not to their knowledge and yet other positions related to maintaining critical equipment appeared to have been cut, so this is going to feed into all of these recent incidents and the safety of — of the total air traffic system is going to be very much a part of the conversation as we go forward, at least on the side of the country of the border, I should say.”

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Comments

Sounds like pilot error.

    alaskabob in reply to Tim1911. | February 17, 2025 at 5:51 pm

    Winds 23, gusts to 33. Sometimes, no time to react. Will have to see… but wing strike might be reason.

      Mauiobserver in reply to alaskabob. | February 17, 2025 at 6:26 pm

      Would be an issue if it was a crosswind. Not enough information yet. If there was a crosswind of 23 to 33 combined with some ice or snow on the runway that would definitely present a challenge.

        Charles Martel in reply to Mauiobserver. | February 17, 2025 at 7:57 pm

        Regardless, it is the PILOT’s job and responsibility to assess whether or not to land. I’m a long-ago private pilot and I have aborted landings due to weather.

        The PILOT is responsible for determining if it is safe to land. Pilots are human. This one chose poorly.

          Mauiobserver in reply to Charles Martel. | February 17, 2025 at 10:47 pm

          I have a commercial ticket, multi engine and instrument ratings. I don’t have any more information than what I have seen on the news. Yes, Charles perhaps the pilot should have aborted but in my opinion, we don’t have enough information yet to make that determination.

          It may well be that the aircraft touched down in good shape on the center line and then lost control on roll out.. Having landed in heavy crosswinds on icy runways though conditions would have contributed to control issues if they were present.

          I strongly suspect that more clarification will come by the end of the week.

        alaskabob in reply to Mauiobserver. | February 17, 2025 at 8:21 pm

        Winds 270. 40 degree crosswind component. Doesn’t mean a rogue gust couldn’t get them. Video shows nasty windy day….

        Landing AC unlikely to have ice accretions, but not impossible
        X wind component is key
        I taught x-wind control 200 feet above Anchorage international x-wind runway
        combo crab and slip.
        Didn’t go below 200 but able to track centerline with the occasional moderate bump while 747 report severe turbulence

      Kreemerz in reply to alaskabob. | February 19, 2025 at 7:43 am

      All are conditions that pilots are used to dealing with. Not extreme, even for a CRJ.

      Interesting how silent they’re being about the identities of the crew

Or maybe wind shear.

    Kreemerz in reply to Petrushka. | February 19, 2025 at 7:44 am

    All are conditions that pilots are used to dealing with. Not extreme, even for a CRJ.

    Interesting how silent they’re being about the identities of the crew

“Swalwell declares ‘all crashes are Trump’s fault’ as he doubles down on plane disaster blame game.”

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/swalwell-faces-social-media-backlash-post-tying-trump-georgia-small-plane-crash

He will use this incident as proof.

Gay North Dakota… 🙂

” the media wasted no time to blame President Donald Trump and Elon Musk:”

“Right here in River City —
Trouble with a capital “T” /
And that rhymes with “P” /
And that stands for pool!”

I’m not sure which is more ludicrous — the chain of one-sided paranoid suppositions they rely on as “evidence,” or that even stipulating all that nonsense they still can’t make a better case than a big, heaping bowl of Kamala word salad.

For some time, maybe a few years, we have to wonder if this was due to Affirmative or DEI. Eventually most incompetents will be removed.

If there’s a human at fault, logically none of Trumps actions can factor in.

Not only is the airport in question in Canada ergo not under FAA control, but if it were an FAA airport it’s Biden’s FAA that caused a shortage of qualified USA air controllers by only hiring air controllers from desired DEI minorities.

Moreover if a pilot error is a factor, Delta like most major US corporations has drunk the (Biden era) DEI koolaid and been undoubtedly hiring/promoting on the basis of skin tone or gender as opposed to proficiency and/or experience.

I am interested in HTH the plane seems to have lost its wings and HTH it managed to flip over. Seeing as this was Canada in the middle of extreme winter weather I can’t help but suspect landing strip conditions somehow factored in. With no deaths reported whatever happened must have happened while the plane was OTG and not still in the air I would think.

Think about this for a moment…

If this crash had occurred in 1970 you wouldn’t likely have known about it until Walter Cronkite told you about it at 6:30 PM and you would have believed every word he said without question.

Today, Cronkite is recognized for the fraud that he was and CBS has no credibility whatsoever. And if you want knowledgeable insight into a disaster, there are subject matter experts on YouTube, etc that will explain and teach you what you need to know.

For this accident, I’d recommend the Blancolirio channel on YouTube (a 777 pilot). Doubtless he’ll have a video up in a day or so and his coverage of the DCA accident has been excellent.

No video that I’ve seen. I’d have to guess they clipped a wingtip which spun the plane around probably and took off the wing, enabling it to roll over. A large plane on its back is hard to explain any other way.

No high impact forces so it’s all sliding and turning.

    There is video out now.
    It looks to me like there WAS a hard landing. The pilot was doing an OK job of countering the gusts, then he prangs it onto the runway. The right wing disconnects from the plane and a fireball erupts. The plane now rolls over on its back (and loses its left wing) and halts in fairly short order.

    It’s understandable why that one was so survivable, compared to it flipping over at wing-length.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair | February 17, 2025 at 9:08 pm

This looks to be the work of a really sh*tty pilot. It could be a 400 pound tr@ns with 3 legs and 1 arm … something like that. But, whatever it is, it’s clear that the most likely reason is that the pilot could not fly. Came in tilted 30 degrees and the wing smashed into the ground, tearing off. From there, the half-twist to finish on its back was just a bit of showing off.

Now … if it had been a Boeing I might have suspected that the wing came off all on its own, but since it wasn’t Boeing I have to assume that it was just a pilot who should have never been flying.

I have never seen a plane land and turn upside down. Not in all my years.

What is really weird is that there doesn’t seem to be any live video of the plane landing. How is that even possible?? No video, at all? I would think that, given how cheap cameras and storage is, that airports would have constant video of every runway and all take-offs and landings. I mean …. WTFF??

I love how some idiot leftists on NBC tried to blame Trump. I guess they think that Canada has already become the 51st state!

ThePrimordialOrderedPair | February 18, 2025 at 5:01 am

There is finally a surveillance video of the jet crashing. Actually, it seems more to be someone filming it but it can’t be any sort of cell phone that was produced in the last 15 years … More like a guy with an old VHS camera. The voice on it sounds Indian (dot). What is up with Canada??

The TDS media attempting to link an aircraft overturning on a Canadian runway to the reform efforts of the Trump administration is Cray Cray.

    rhhardin in reply to CommoChief. | February 18, 2025 at 6:19 am

    Whatever happened to Cray? I had a Cray XMP24 to myself for a few years, back when coding was fun, for me anyway. Probaby, like IBM, failed to see the oncoming overwhelming advance of the PC.

      ThePrimordialOrderedPair in reply to rhhardin. | February 18, 2025 at 6:38 am

      I seem to remember Cray starting to disappear in mentions after the advent of Thinking Machines and their development of the first(?) massively parallel supercomputer. I might be mistaken but I think Cray was caught on the wrong side of that design path … I’m probably mistaken on that but that was the impression I had years ago.

      Of course, when Seymour Cray died that couldn’t have helped anything.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair | February 18, 2025 at 8:03 am

Here is clean, decent video of the crash.

Worst pilot ever?

    No. I would need to see all of the relevant data on wind and the aircraft speed and descent rate to speak better on it. But if the wind dropped precipitously it would explain what appears to be a hard landing.

    I am a bit surprised that Delta would simply fly into a bad wind situation. (They are the reason for all the doppler radars around airports, reporting microbursts and such, after the crash short of the runway at DFW 20+ years ago.)

First, seriously: As a student pilot who never soloed, there is no way I’d ever be out in that kind of insane weather with crosswinds….again. (Yes, I was young and stupid back then)

Second, with humor: How do we know this aircraft didn’t identify as an Australian airplane?

    ThePrimordialOrderedPair in reply to georgfelis. | February 18, 2025 at 8:57 am

    I flew out of Denver in a small plane (about 40 passengers) in conditions much worse than that. And it was a routine flight, from what I understood. That was back in the 80s. A blizzard. But they didn’t bat an eye out there.

While the media was so quick to blame Trump, let’s hope they continued to get punked and made to look stupid by the Som Tin Wong intern.