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Treasury Sec. Yellen Worried About Fiscal Sustainability, ‘Sorry’ She Didn’t Do More on Deficit

Treasury Sec. Yellen Worried About Fiscal Sustainability, ‘Sorry’ She Didn’t Do More on Deficit

“I am sorry that we haven’t made more progress. I believe that the deficit needs to be brought down, especially now that we’re in an environment of higher interest rates.”

According to the Treasury Department’s real-time debt clock, as of noon on December 12, the U.S. national debt stood at $36,163,442,396,226. This amount is $8.4 trillion higher than when President Joe Biden assumed the presidency in January 2021.

Speaking at The Wall Street Journal’s CEO Summit on Tuesday, Biden’s outgoing Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen said:

WSJ: One not-so-great aspect of the legacy you and President Biden leave behind is a very large budget deficit, roughly 6% of GDP. Are you sorry you couldn’t make any progress on that, and how much of a risk does that pose to the economy?

YELLEN: I am concerned about fiscal sustainability, and I am sorry that we haven’t made more progress. I believe that the deficit needs to be brought down, especially now that we’re in an environment of higher interest rates. Over the past year, the interest cost of the debt has increased by several hundred billion. It’s one of the largest items responsible for the increase in the budget deficit, so we do need to bring it down.

The federal funds rate hovered near zero when Biden took office, and managing our debt was sustainable. Still, every economist knew the party (0% interest rates) couldn’t last forever. No economy stays the same. It was inevitable that rates would increase and with it the cost of servicing our growing national debt.

But after the Biden administration’s reckless spending drove inflation to its highest levels in 40 years, the Federal Reserve’s Open Market Committee was forced to take drastic action. Between March 2022 and July 2023, the committee raised the federal funds target rate by 525 basis points, dramatically escalating the amount the U.S. government owes on its debt and exploding the budget deficit.

Even though Yellen once argued that inflation was transitory before it spiked to 9%, she is an intelligent woman who appears to understand the very straightforward relationship between government overspending, inflation, and interest rates.

[Note: At the time of Yellen’s testimony, the federal funds rate was at 4.58%. The committee was close to the end of their tightening cycle.]

In the exchange below from a March 2023 Senate hearing, Sen. John Kennedy (R-LA) asked her, “So $51 trillion of debt, up from $33 trillion doesn’t bother you?”

She replied, “I think the path that’s set out in the president’s budget is fiscally sustainable.”

He then asked, “How much debt is too much?” Well, she didn’t quite understand what he meant.

Kennedy rephrased his question, “What debt as a percentage of our GDP is too much?”

She explained that it depended on where interest rates are and they have been extremely low.

Finally, she said that the current budget that showed the national debt at 109% of GDP was “quite reasonable in historic terms.”

Well, the rainy day is here. While it’s difficult to find the exact amount the U.S. pays annually on interest, finance website ZeroHedge currently pegs the number at nearly $1.2 trillion, making it “the second largest government outlay surpassing defense and health spending, and is just one debt crisis and/or interest rate spike away from exceeding Social Security spending as the largest government outlay for the world’s most indebted government.”

ZeroHedge can’t be too far off, because a September report from CNBC reports that the government had spent “$1.049 trillion on debt service, up 30% from the same period a year ago.”

CNBC added that, “the U.S. budget deficit surged in August, edging closer to $2 trillion for the full year.”

President-elect Donald Trump has nominated veteran hedge fund manager Scott Bessent to replace Yellen as Treasury Secretary. Bessent comes to the job with strong real world experience in the economy, which is a vast improvement over Yellen who has spent her entire life in government and academia.


Elizabeth writes commentary for The Washington Examiner. She is an academy fellow at The Heritage Foundation and a member of the Editorial Board at The Sixteenth Council, a London think tank. Please follow Elizabeth on X or LinkedIn.

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979AggHokie | December 12, 2024 at 7:52 pm

Time for the real adults in the room, to show some fiscal responsibility.

Do y0ur thing, DOGE

I don’t understand the problem with being in an environment of higher interest rates when they are transitory. /sarc

Too busy giving American taxpayers money away

By the hundreds of billions and trillions

It’s just insane we haven’t burnt the town down

In past times, people stood up tyrants….1776 comes to mind


 
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Peter Moss | December 12, 2024 at 8:22 pm

I got an undergraduate degree in agricultural economics forty plus years ago and I am dead certain I could have done a better job than this woman working one day a week stoned and drunk trying to get over my frontal lobotomy.

Incompetent doesn’t even come close to describing Yellen.

This incompetent DOPE (who sounds “slow” when speaking) couldn’t manage a dog walker.

Reminder: the GOPe losers that are “very concerned” about Pete Hegseth had no problem voting to confirm this little bridge troll. It was 85-15.

So principled!

https://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_votes/vote1171/vote_117_1_00006.htm?congress=117&session=1&vote=00006


 
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Ironclaw | December 12, 2024 at 9:22 pm

I’m irritated about the increase in the deficit, obviously. I’m even more irritated about what retarded communist garbage they spend it on


 
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TrickyRicky | December 12, 2024 at 9:57 pm

“she is an intelligent woman who appears to understand the very straightforward relationship between government overspending, inflation, and interest rates.”

I beg to differ.

ARREST Yellen NOW.

” Sorry ” seems to be a lonely word.

IMO experience only in government and acedemia should be disqualifying for any senior position.


 
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jamesleeiv | December 13, 2024 at 5:48 am

What a hack.

The regime she was part of did quite a lot on the deficit, they enlarged the hell out of it!


 
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rhhardin | December 13, 2024 at 6:20 am

The deficit isn’t in the Fed’s control. That’s Congress and the idiot voters. Then there’s idiot scapegoating in the form of clickbaiting.


 
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Ironclaw | December 13, 2024 at 6:35 am

She failed on financial sustainability as well.

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