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Putin Makes it Easier for Russia to Use Nuclear Weapons When Attacked

Putin Makes it Easier for Russia to Use Nuclear Weapons When Attacked

Putin signed a new nuclear doctrine after President Joe Biden allowed Ukraine to use American-supplied longer-range missiles to hit inside Russia.

Russian Dictator President Vladimir Putin signed a new nuclear doctrine after President Joe Biden allowed Ukraine to use American-supplied longer-range missiles to hit inside Russia.

The new doctrine states “that a conventional attack on Russia by any nation that is supported by a nuclear power will be considered a joint attack on his country.”

Yup:

The signing of the doctrine, which says that any massive aerial attack on Russia could trigger a nuclear response, demonstrates Putin’s readiness to tap the country’s nuclear arsenal to force the West to back down as Moscow presses a slow-moving offensive in Ukraine.

Asked whether the updated doctrine was deliberately issued on the heels of Biden’s decision, Kremlin spokesperson Dmitry Peskov said the document was published “in a timely manner” and that Putin instructed the government to update it earlier this year so that it is “in line with the current situation.”

Putin first announced changes in the nuclear doctrine in September, when he chaired a meeting discussing the proposed revisions.

Moscow claimed Ukraine fired the first of those missiles this morning:

Moscow says Ukrainian forces have taken advantage of President Biden’s green light and launched 6 U.S.-made ATACMS (Army Tactical Missile Systems) into Russian territory Tuesday.

Russia says it shot down five of the missiles and damaged the sixth. It added that debris landed in the area of a Russian military facility, but that no casualties or damage beyond a small fire.

Ukraine did not immediately confirm the use of ATACMS on Tuesday, but officials did announce an attack on a military facility in Russia’s Bryansk region, the same region where Moscow says the missiles fell.

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This has pretty much always been part of their doctrine–going back to the 70s and 80s.

It’s going to be a long two months til Jan 20.

    NotCoach in reply to jimincalif. | November 19, 2024 at 9:39 am

    On January 20th, 1981 the Iranian hostages were released. Eighteen minutes after Reagan was inaugurated.

      DaveGinOly in reply to NotCoach. | November 19, 2024 at 2:19 pm

      I recall that clearly. I was living in Providence, RI at the time, and when it was announced that the hostages had cleared Iranian airspace, a local rock station marked the occasion by playing the Rolling Stones’ “You Cant’ Always Get What You Want.”

      Milhouse in reply to NotCoach. | November 19, 2024 at 5:41 pm

      And to this day Democrats claim, without any evidence at all, that they were ready to do so before the election, but Reagan/Bush asked them to hold off until Carter was out of office.

Putin ‘ fires’ 10K N. Korean troops into Ukraine. Ukraine responds with American missiles. Putin can pack up and leave Ukraine and send the NORK troops home. It’s over..

    NotCoach in reply to Whitewall. | November 19, 2024 at 9:48 am

    I saw somewhere that the NORKs, having access to unrestricted internet for the first time, just wanted to watch pron all day.

    Putin is the one wearing “the white hat.”

    The west is bat shit crazy funding this mass slaughter and destruction of Ukraine.

    Remember, the west promised not to expand Nato in exchange for Russian removing its troops.

    Putin is defending Mother Russia.

    CommoChief in reply to Whitewall. | November 19, 2024 at 1:11 pm

    The Russians are winning. They accomplished most of their strategic goal to conquer the Donbas region and establish a secure east flank for Crimea. I don’t see them handing over those gains and going home. Whatever else occurs with a 2nd Trump admin the pre invasion borders of Ukraine ain’t going back to where they were.

      Evil Otto in reply to CommoChief. | November 19, 2024 at 3:51 pm

      Russia’s “strategic goal” was always to conquer all of Ukraine. They failed. Putin may now pretend that his whole reason for invasion was to grab those, but it’s not true. They’ll be, at best, consolation prizes won at the cost of tens of thousands of Russian lives.

      In the meantime Finland and Sweden have joined NATO. Well done, Vlad.

“Moscow says Ukrainian forces have taken advantage of President Biden’s green light….”

Ha ha. The senile bed-wetter in the White House doesn’t even know what a green light is.

    Idonttweet in reply to Paula. | November 19, 2024 at 12:44 pm

    I don’t think it’s unreasonable to ask the administration if they are intentionally trying to trigger WWIII and drag America into it, just so they can leave an even bigger pile of sh*t for Trump to deal with. I still want to know who is making these decisions, approving these actions and blaming them on Biden.

Time for Americans to take cognizance of Russia’s Perimeter System, also known as “Dead Hand.” There is a book by that name and a Wikipedia entry. It’s and automatic or semi-automatic system nuclear response system similar but not identical to the “doomsday machine” in the film “Dr. Strangelove. Dead Hand originated in the 1980s by the Soviet Union out of fear that the US would decapitate the Soviet leadership with preemptive First Strike. A not unreasonable fear. See Fred Kaplan’s book, “The Bomb.” Yes the Pentagon had plans for a preemptive strike on the Soviet Union. There is a whole literature on this subject for the curious. Not clear if there is any humans in the Dead Hand response loop.

I’m sure under current conditions Dead Hand is active and contributes to instability. There are some in our State Department unaware of Dead Hand. Ask your Senator if he knows about it. Yikes some journalist should ask the chairman of the Joints Chiefs.

How would we feel if an adversarial country had offensive missiles in Mexico? Well we know, see the 1962 Cuban Missile Crisis. This is a vast subject. Americans should be very concerned.

    NotCoach in reply to oden. | November 19, 2024 at 10:26 am

    Plans are not the same thing as action. We have/had plans for the invasion of every single country in the world. It is an academic and military exercise in preparedness, not an intention to actually invade.

      ahad haamoratsim in reply to NotCoach. | November 19, 2024 at 11:44 am

      I just finished reading Daniel Silva’s novel, The Collector, that revolves around a Russian security directive to turn those plans into action by making a false flag low yield nuclear attack on a small Russian town near the Ukrainian border Gabriel Allon, now retired, stumbles across the plan while investigating a stolen painting.

      Spooky to come across this news report after reading the novel.

      Virginia42 in reply to NotCoach. | November 19, 2024 at 1:02 pm

      You’re assuming the Russians know that.

        They do. Anyone in the world who is paying attention knows that.

          Virginia42 in reply to GWB. | November 19, 2024 at 3:17 pm

          No, they do not. “Mirror imaging” your/our beliefs and knowledge about war plans doesn’t mean everyone else does. And we had first strike plans during the Cold War. We even trained for them. There was never a gaurantee we wouldn’t use them, though it was (to us) unlikely.

        henrybowman in reply to Virginia42. | November 19, 2024 at 1:24 pm

        I know that, so there’s no reason the Russians shouldn’t. The doctrine is called Threat. It considers the possibility that even your strongest ally will snap and become your enemy, so you have to have plans on tap for war with anybody. It’s why allies continue to spy on each other. Trust me, they know about it.

    DaveGinOly in reply to oden. | November 19, 2024 at 2:32 pm

    “How would we feel if an adversarial country had offensive missiles in Mexico?”

    I understand what you mean, but the US didn’t invade Mexico. And although we and NATO poked the bear (and are therefore responsible for the Russian response), Russia is still an invader (as much as I understand and have sympathy for their position, being very well-read on the Great Patriotic War, which still guides much Russian doctrine and international policy). As the invader, Putin should put on his big-boy pants and realize you can’t attack a neighbor and not expect to suffer strikes in retaliation for your aggression. This includes strikes with weapons provided by other opponents.

    If he wants to take this out on someone, he can nuke a city in Ukraine. Ukraine is not blameless here for making nice with NATO and provoking Russia’s attack. (Yes, I know about the Maidan color revolution. But a people are ultimately responsible for the government they have. If their government puts them in danger, it’s their responsibility to remove that government if they don’t approve. Interestingly, our government’s administration has already been effectively removed, but still managed to put us in danger before actually exiting.)

      henrybowman in reply to DaveGinOly. | November 20, 2024 at 4:57 am

      “I understand what you mean, but the US didn’t invade Mexico.”
      You’re putting the cart before the horse here. The US promised that Ukraine would not be offered NATO membership. Because if it were a NATO member, there would be NATO arms there. And that’s before anybody invades anybody. Then the US was on the brink of breaking that promise. That makes Ukraine perfectly analogous to Cuba (or Mexico in the suggested example), except that Putin caught on to the plot sooner than we did,
      And, by the by, in the case of Cuba, we DID invade them first,.. which, if anything, added to their justification

The adults being back in charge cant happen soon enough!

Dolce Far Niente | November 19, 2024 at 11:00 am

NATO appears deaf, dumb and blind when it comes to the dangers of their proxy war against Russia.

And for what gain? They might fantasize about seeing Russia weak and under the control of EU oligarchs, but expending the largest portion of EU and American munitions + a mountain of Ukie dead is not a credible path to that goal.

The money-laundering portion of this war has been highly successful, however, and because this gravy train will end with Trump’s inauguration NATO will do its best to hamstring any peaceful resolutions.

    A thoroughly-wrecked Ukraine will result in billions of dollars in contracts to rebuild the country, mostly paid for by US taxpayers, no doubt. Ukraine hasn’t reached that “thoroughly-wrecked” threshold, so they’re playing to have Putin destroy more of the country in retaliation for using the US missiles to strike Russia.

Putin is blowing smoke for domestic consumption,….he ain’t gonna nuke anything, except his political career

    The_Mew_Cat in reply to MarkS. | November 19, 2024 at 12:20 pm

    Not so sure about that. If the Uke troops are concentrated enough on a battlefield, he might nuke them. I am actually mystified why he hasn’t used more thermobarics? Maybe the delivery systems are too susceptible to air defenses?

      Evil Otto in reply to The_Mew_Cat. | November 19, 2024 at 3:55 pm

      If he was going to nuke Ukraine he would have already done it. The war’s in a stalemate now, and it’s likely Trump will work out a peace deal that both sides hate but can live with. But if Vlad uses nukes all bets are off. No chance of a deal, the entire world outside of a couple miserable shitholes turn on him. His economy collapses with crippling sanctions even if no one retaliates, something that’s by no means guaranteed.

    Paula in reply to MarkS. | November 19, 2024 at 12:41 pm

    Sweden and Finland are telling their citizens to prepare for nuclear war.

      healthguyfsu in reply to Paula. | November 20, 2024 at 4:34 am

      Because they sure as hell won;t be paying anything.

      When asked theyll whine and say what about rest of EU. Rest of EU will say hmmm hea that;s trye we have a our hands full with Israel

Biden and Trump meet and make happy talk while Obama’s fifth columnists launch a diplomatic end run scorched earth gambit.

Macron is backing the gambit saying it’s good policy.

Trump needs to speed armistice negotiations.

Trump should take a lesson here. Putin just formally signed a document giving himself permission to use his own nukes, That’s how it’s done. If Trump had only formally signed a document giving himself permission to use his own powers of declassification, he could have saved himself a shitload of grief.