House Democrat Will Pen Resolution Clarifying Trump is a Two-Term President
Ah, yes. Keep showing us you cannot take a joke.
It’s already starting! President-elect Donald Trump can never tell a joke.
Rep. Dan Goldman (D-NY) wants to introduce a resolution reminding Trump that he can only serve two terms.
I cannot even with these people. Look at how The New York Times reported it (emphasis mine):
“I suspect I won’t be running again unless you say, ‘He’s so good we’ve got to figure something else out,’ ” Mr. Trump told Republicans, who appeared to take it as a joke.
One Democrat is moving quickly to make sure that cannot happen. Representative Dan Goldman of New York plans on Thursday to introduce a resolution clarifying that the Constitution’s two-term limit for presidents applies even if the terms are not consecutive. It asserts that the 22nd Amendment to the Constitution, which states that a person who has been elected president twice cannot run again, “applies to two terms in the aggregate” and leaves no loophole.
In other words, Mr. Trump — who served from 2017 to 2021 and is slated to assume the presidency again in January — could not seek another term in the future.
Mr. Goldman’s resolution, which was obtained by The New York Times, also reaffirms that the 22nd Amendment applies to Mr. Trump.
Because it is a joke, you morons.
Trump can never ever tell a joke, you guys. Never ever! The NYT has to weave some fear into the article, too:
But Mr. Goldman’s resolution is an early indication of how Democrats may try to hold Mr. Trump accountable and defend democratic institutions with Republicans headed toward full control of Congress and few guardrails remaining to rein him in. Introducing the measure allows Mr. Goldman to draw public attention to Mr. Trump’s statements, which he calls “anti-democratic and authoritarian.”
Mr. Trump’s comment on Wednesday was not the first time he has hinted that he might like to stay in the White House past his next term. In July, he told attendees of a conservative Christian event that they “won’t have to vote anymore” if he won the election, noting: “it’ll be fixed so good, you’re not going to have to vote.”
Well, here is me with some reality. It was a JOKE. This is already so old seeing these people freak out over a joke.
Stop clutching your freaking pearls. Grow up.
More than likely Trump makes these jokes because he knows it gets your undies in a twist.
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I’m so old I remember when Dems wanted to change the Constitution to allow Obama to run a third time (and old enough to remember Reps saying that for Reagan). Just because someone says something doesn’t mean one has to take it seriously
At the same time the Dems were all fawning over Communist China and wishing, out loud – very loud – that the US could be more like China so that Barky could do anything he wanted ,… which would have allowed Barky to be even more like his life-long political idol, Sukarno.
I’m old enough to remember when Obama’s mother married a married man. Apparently, Obama Sr. forgot to tell Stanley Ann that he’d never divorced his first wife in Kenya, who was raising their two children. Oh well.
He’s eating our pets.
I’m old enough to remember when president Obama ate a dog.
They were calling for W to resign so Obama could take over early.
Which was as insane and un-American as anything could possibly be. There was no process or consideration in America for anything of the sort to ever happen.
But the funniest part was that once Barky slithered into office he couldn’t get started because all of his cabinet picks were complete lunatics who couldn’t pass confirmation. The joke going around was “What’s the difference between Jesus and Obama? Jesus could build a cabinet.” Sadly, the GOP senators finally felt bad for him and started allowing awful nominations to go through, which was the start of America’s steep and swift decline.
Especially not the ramblings of a well known moron like Goldman.
Well, Obama ran Biden as a puppet to get 3 terms.
Obama already had his third term with Pedo Joe.
Obama has run 3 terms of the office of President. That’s why he stayed in DC and made sure Biden hired all his staff.
Not only is this silly, it plays right into Trump’s hands. “See the House voted down a resolution clarifying I can’t run again, therefore I can.”
The house *will* vote this down (because the GOP has a majority).
The nuance between “this is superfluous to the 25th amendment” and defeating the bill will be lost on a lot of people. But, the dems have shown themselves to be dumbasses.
A Republican should introduce a resolution saying Joe Biden is a 1-term president and Hillary and Kamala are zero-term presidents.
The only person to ever violate the norm set by George Washington was a Democrat. If it wasn’t for him we wouldn’t even have that amendment.
Not really true. Washington did not set a norm for retirement after two terms. He retired because he wanted to, and the only norm he meant to set was that it’s OK for a president to retire when he’s ready to do so, and it should be regarded as a normal thing. At the time it wasn’t normal, so he had to make a point of it.
Nor is it true that FDR was the first to attempt a third term. He was just the first who succeeded. Several previous second-term presidents sought their party’s nomination a third time, but lost. Teddy Roosevelt didn’t take no for an answer and ran an independent campaign, splitting the Republican vote and giving us probably the worst president ever.
If you were a journo for the Manchester Union Leader during the Eisenhower administration and wrote that, I’d allow it. But not having lived through the last eight administrations.
How has that experience changed historical facts? How has it retroactively changed Washington’s intentions, or the purely factual question of whether FDR’s attempt to run a third time was somehow in violation of some sacred principle, just because he was actually popular enough to win?
Actually, Washington set a norm by voluntarily stepping down and relinquishing the Office. This was very unusual and stunned King George.
Yes, as I literally just said: “the only norm he meant to set was that it’s OK for a president to retire when he’s ready to do so, and it should be regarded as a normal thing. At the time it wasn’t normal, so he had to make a point of it.”
It was the idea that he was just a regular citizen elected to run the country for a while. And, yes, that stunned the monarchs of the world.
Yet you wanted Clinton and Obama to serve longer.
Were Goldman’s pants wet when he offered the resolution?
I think his name should be “Dan “Fools” Goldman.”
He has consistently been a total ass.
The 22nd amendment is an interesting beast. It’s the only COnstitutional amendment written because of the actions of a single person, to stop anyone in the future from trying to be as selfish and power-hungry and out-of-control as that one person … a person so dangerous and so much in opposition to the spirit and long-held tradition of America that this amendment had to be written and passed pretty much while they were still throwing dirt on his coffin!
And yet … public school students never seem to learn that this was the real lasting legacy of the Dems’ beloved tyrant, FDR, a Constitutional amendment written solely to stop anyone from being like him, again. Yet he is the President the Dems most look up to and want to emulate. It’s kind of funny, really.
See my reply to Martin.
Explain how the 22nd amendment came right after FDR died and, as you seem to claim, was not done to because of FDR.
I mean … seriously.
Huh?! How could you possibly have concluded that that was anything like my claim? Of course the 22nd was a reaction to FDR. But it is simply not true that his decision to run a 3rd and then a 4th time was ” selfish and power-hungry and out-of-control”, or “in opposition to the spirit and long-held tradition of America”. There was never any such long-held tradition, and Washington certainly never intended to start one.
Wrong. Washington most certainly intended to start a tradition of voluntarily leaving office after a short time to return to the private sector. This has continued in the form of Presidents leaving DC and returning home after the next President is sworn in. This over 200yr tradition was broken by Obama who wanted to run the government again and has by installing his people around Biden.
“Washington most certainly intended to start a tradition of voluntarily leaving office after a short time to return to the private sector.”
No, he didn’t. The only “tradition”, if you want to call it that, that he intended to start, was that after a president has served as many terms as both he and the voters want him to, and he wants to retire, it’s OK. He doesn’t have to keep running and running, just because it’s the expected thing.
So when his term was ending, and on contemplating a third term he found he really didn’t want one, he announced that he would not be a candidate at the next election, and everyone’s startled reaction was “Can he do that? Hmm, I guess he can”.
You know it’s a troll, right?
A troll whose sole purpose is to dispirit and demoralize.
It’s utterly spastic right now because it’s masters lost.
You know it’s literally a demon from Hell, which never ever tells the truth, about anything, right?
ThePOP is correct. The amendment was written and passed in response to FDR, and no other president.
Also, you mentioned that other two-term presidents attempted to become three-term presidents, and that FDR was the only such president to succeed. But that was not the end of the story. As the only three-term president, he then ran again being the only three-term POTUS to run for a fourth term and the only person to ever be a four-term POTUS. FDR went well beyond what anyone else had ever attempted, because he was in a unique position to make the attempt. It was his success in demolishing the “norm” the resulted in the 22nd Amendment’s enforcement of the norm by law.
Someday I would like to understand how this amendment was passed so quickly and decisively in a country in which the target was so beloved of the hoi polloi as to have been popularly elected four times.
FDR wasn’t the target. He was already dead. The targets were other politicians whom their rivals worried might repeat his triumph. The amendment was passed by politicians who didn’t want any of their rivals to establish such a power base.
Plus the news of his death came as a shock to the public, since the news industry had censored the truth about his health. Many people didn’t want to be left in such a situation again, where a dying president is used to pull a bait and switch on them.
Of course it was passed in reaction to FDR. I never suggested otherwise.
And of course FDR was the only one to run for a fourth term, since it was physically impossible for anyone else ever to have done so. To run for a fourth term you must first be serving a third term, and every president before FDR who tried that failed. That doesn’t mean they wouldn’t have tried for a fourth had they succeeded.
The fact is there was never any “norm”. It didn’t exist. But generally presidents after two terms are so run down that they don’t even want a third, and those who do want one are generally at a low in their popularity. Reagan was popular enough at the end of his 2nd term that he could have been elected a third time if it were possible, but he wouldn’t have run anyway because of his health. Clinton and 0bama would probably have run again and been elected had the 22nd not existed, so it’s a good thing it does. But historically that’s an unusual situation.
Here’s the real joke:
“Introducing the measure allows Mr. Goldman to draw public attention to Mr. Trump’s statements, which he calls “anti-democratic and authoritarian.”
Pot. Kettle. Black.
Aha!! This is the guy who had the FDA force the recall of butter which didn’t have “CONTAINS: MILK” printed on it.
Democrats always need new hoaxes to scare their voter base.
Two things; one it is Goldman who is doing this so that means it isn’t important and two, Trump should make an obvious joke every single day to drive the weak-minded mad. Remember the “Russia, where are the 30,000 Hillary missing emails”? The left still uses that line as serious evidence of Trump and Putin colluding.
Technically, this is already the third time Trump has been elected to the Presidency.
Technically, you’re right.
No, it isn’t. What happened in November is irrelevant; that’s not when the president is elected. The president is elected in December, and the votes are counted in January. Even if Trump “won” in November 2020, when the presidential election was held in December 2020 Biden got a majority of the 538 votes cast, so he is the person who was elected.
I understand the electoral college and all the accompanying details. I also knew that some dipshit would come along and write something stupid like you just did.
It was a friggin joke, you blithering idiot. What the hell is wrong with you?
He has to constantly correct everyone to prove his massive intellect. He is that know it all in grade school everyone disliked.
If the 2016 election was stolen then Trump wasn’t really POTUS. See you in 2028 😉
Goldman is so stupid I remain unconvinced he is able to even COUNT to two.
That’s why he wants it written down. 😉
Leftists never recognize jokes because none of them has a sense of humor; they literally do not know what a joke is.
Dems are a bad joke.
Rep. Dan Goldman strikes me as the kind of guy who keeps all the lights on in his house. He is definitely a “MORE ON” kind of guy.
One thing I like about Trump is that he actually has a sense of humor. Not my kind of humor–Reagan was far better–but he has one.
Last time either Biden or Harris told a joke? (Yes, I know they both can be described as “a joke”)
Democrats in the House are also set to introduce another resolution confirming that water is indeed wet.
If they had admitted that they stole the 2020 election, and that he was actually elected (for the second time) in 2020, they could have kept him off the ballot in every state. But it only says he can’t be elected, not that he can’t serve.
No. As I just wrote above, regardless of whether Trump “won” in November 2020, he was not elected president, because that happens in December.
Good god, Milhouse.
During President Trump’s last term in office I joked with my friend how the president at night likes to shine his flashlight into the hen house from time to time. Good to see that has not changed.
What about the constitutional provisions that said Obama was ineligible? Those were ignored, so let’s ignore this too if it comes to it.
There are no such provisions. Anyone who claims there are is a crackpot.
Natural born citizen is required by the constitution. Obama’s fake birth certificate is convincing proof he isn’t, otherwise he would not have faked it. Those are facts. Maybe “malinformation” i.e. facts you don’t like. But who are you to decide who is a crackpot.
The birth certificate is not fake. There is not a shred of evidence that it’s fake and plenty of evidence that it isn’t. Arpaio is indeed a crackpot.
Layers in the pdf. “Not a shred of evidence” lol there’s convincing evidence.
Those “layers” are easy to reproduce with any document. They’re what naturally happens when you scan a document with OCR turned on, and then export a PDF.
Good thing he comes from money–he’s too stupid to earn an honest living
Only an idiot like Goldman would hear that, and leap to the bizarre conclusion that Trump thinks presidents are only limited to two consecutive terms. Even if you don’t think it was a total joke, the obvious meaning is that it’s possible — though extremely unlikely — that he’ll be so popular at the end of his 2nd term, and in such good physical and mental health, that 2/3 of each house and 38 state legislatures will vote to amend the constitution for him. And there’s nothing wrong with pointing that possibility out, though of course there’s no way anyone expects it to happen.
That’s an even more bizarre leap. No, I don’t think it was a joke. But only a paranoid person who already hates Trump and is willing to read weird things into his every statement could conclude that he meant he would stay in office.
When he said that he was fully aware that there will be another presidential election in 2028, and he has not the slightest notion of preventing that, even if he could. He meant exactly what he said; that after four years of him in charge things would be so good that his audience could afford not to vote any more. Remember he was addressing reluctant voters; people who never vote, who hate voting, but he was urging them to put aside their qualms and come out to vote just this one time, because the stakes were so high. So he assured them that he wouldn’t be coming back to them in four years asking them to do it again. Once the stakes are lower Republicans can afford to do without their votes.
In Switzerland the federal government has so little power over people’s daily lives that most people have no idea who the president is. They just don’t care enough to pay attention. And ideally that’s how it should be everywhere. Government should have so little power to harm us that most of us don’t bother voting. “Let whoever wants the job most win; the constitution will ensure that he won’t be able to do anything seriously wrong.”
We had that once, too. The Federalist Papers pointing out that they were proposing a FEDERAL government, not a NATIONAL government. Look how it turned out. You can’t beat psychopathy and you can’t beat entropy.
Not true. The Federalist routinely refers to it as a national government, and to Congress as a national legislature. See ## 2, 3, 4, 11, 12, 13, 15, and I stopped searching after that.
The distinction he’s making – even if it isn’t literally true in terms of the English words used – is absolutely correct. It was not supposed to make us anything more than a federation of still sovereign states. But not a confederation, which was significantly weaker. But also not a single nation where the states were merely administrative divisions.
Unfortunately, between Lincoln and FDR, that concept was thoroughly beaten down by the 1960s. To talk about why and how would be a large essay unto itself. But it’s true.
Then you should support Trump’s downsizing of government and his aggressively going after the big-government left, who will not leave voluntarily ever but they must leave if we are to have freedom.
Of course I support it. I’m just afraid he won’t follow through with it. But if he does more power to him.
The problem is the Constitution doesn’t have any power to stop that. The Constitution – like all laws, contracts, and treaties – can’t hold anyone to account. No, those things require either 1) people who all follow the rules, or 2) people who are willing to kick the ho-hos out of those who violate it. We can never have 1 on a large scale*, because of human nature. So we must rely on 2 – and the people have been steadily corrupted over the last century plus.
We have to get them back to where they will hold folks accountable. Hopefully this shift to Trump reflects some of that, but we still need to get out and evangelize the people back into an electorate that knows and loves the Constitution.
(* I don’t consider Switzerland to be “large-scale.”)