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Fires Destroy Ballot Boxes in Portland, Phoenix, and Vancouver, WA

Fires Destroy Ballot Boxes in Portland, Phoenix, and Vancouver, WA

Someone set off an incendiary device in the Portland dropoff ballot box.

In a span of a week, fires have destroyed dropoff ballot boxes in Portland, OR, Phoenix, AZ, and Vancouver, WA.

Vancouver, WA

On Monday morning, heavy smoke emerged from a dropoff ballot box in Vancouver, WA.

It just happened a few hours ago, so we don’t have much information to share. From KATU:

Multiple police units were in the area, and the ballot box was cordoned off by police tape as it continued to smoke.

Around 6:30 a.m., KATU captured footage of first responders releasing a pile of actively burning ballots onto the ground, which continued to smoulder and smoke heavily even after the flames were put out.

The Clark County auditor told us that the last ballot pickup at that location was 8 a.m. Sunday. Hundreds of ballots were inside at the time of the burning, and KATU was told there are maybe only a few that can be saved.

Phoenix, AZ

Police arrested a person in connection with a burning mailbox that contained many mailed-in ballots in Phoenix, AZ, “for an outstanding and unrelated arrest warrant.” From USA Today:

Dieter Klofkorn, 35, is accused of igniting a fire in a mailbox at a U.S. Postal Office in the area of 7th Avenue and Indian School Road around 1 a.m., Phoenix police said in a news release.

The Phoenix Fire Department’s Arson Investigation Taskforce was contacted and assumed the investigation, according to police. The scene was processed, including finding nearby surveillance footage.

Phoenix Fire Capt. Rob McDade confirmed to NBC News and AZFamily that 20 electoral ballots were damaged, along with additional mail.

Klofhorn told police “that he ‘wanted to be arrested and that his actions were not politically motivated and not related to anything involving the upcoming election.'”

Portland, OR

Portland police began an investigation after someone set off an incendiary device in a dropoff ballot box.

From KATU:

On Oc. 28, at approximately 3:30 a.m., officers were sent to reports of a fire at a ballot box located in the 1000 block of Southeast Morrison Street.

By the time officers arrived, security personnel in the area had already extinguished the fire.

Investigators say an incendiary device had been placed inside the ballot box, igniting the fire.

The Portland Police Bureau’s Explosive Disposal Unit responded to the scene and successfully cleared the device.

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Comments

destroycommunism | October 28, 2024 at 11:34 am

so they’ll have the dems “revote” but still count the original ballots

nice trifckery from the letists

    Dolce Far Niente in reply to destroycommunism. | October 28, 2024 at 12:03 pm

    Portland; all dem votes anyway

    Phoenix; likely 75% dem votes anyway

    Vancouver; bedroom community for Portland, so…

      destroycommunism in reply to Dolce Far Niente. | October 28, 2024 at 1:22 pm

      yeah but by allowing them to have an excuse to revote and double up on the

      popular vote figures

      so they can continue their attacks on the electoral colleges

        henrybowman in reply to destroycommunism. | October 28, 2024 at 1:40 pm

        In Arizona, mailed ballots are tracked by the state online. Anybody can sign in to the Recorder’s website and have his early ballot tracked. Anybody who used that mailbox should be able to do this and within four days, if it doesn’t say they have at least received the ballot, they can apply to revote. If they don’t care enough to check the status of their ballot, I don’t believe the state is going to volunteer to offer them a do-over. Especially since you can also set up your “account” to get automatic email and texts every time your ballot clears a processing step (received, validated, counted). Arizona is one of the most on-line states I have ever encountered.

          henrybowman in reply to henrybowman. | October 28, 2024 at 1:42 pm

          To clarify, by “mailed ballots,” I mean mailed OUT ahead of time, regardless of whether you mail it back in, put it in a drop box, or bring it by hand to a manned early-voting location. I’ve done the latter two types of returns this year for the primaries and the general, and received the same online notifications for both.

          tbonesays in reply to henrybowman. | October 28, 2024 at 4:43 pm

          Funny, I just received a letter about my AZ state taxes that said I could pay them at a website that does not exist.

          destroycommunism in reply to henrybowman. | October 28, 2024 at 6:43 pm

          since I see that there are no more safeguards

          its lawlessness now

          henrybowman in reply to henrybowman. | October 29, 2024 at 3:12 am

          “Funny, I just received a letter about my AZ state taxes that said I could pay them at a website that does not exist.”
          Maybe it’s a phish. The website is aztaxes.gov. What did your letter say?

        Dolce Far Niente in reply to destroycommunism. | October 28, 2024 at 2:20 pm

        There is no chance that OR and WA will vote any way but blue. The size of the vote totals is immaterial

        And even if those boxes were stuffed, we’re only talking about a few hundred votes.

Yet another reason for requiring in person voting.

    RITaxpayer in reply to CommoChief. | October 28, 2024 at 12:22 pm

    I agree 100%

    navyvet in reply to CommoChief. | October 28, 2024 at 1:07 pm

    I voted in person today. A very pleasant experience. No lines, a quick in and out. Why you would trust your vote to the mail or a drop-off box is puzzling to me.

    And, yes, my voter registration status was verified prior to receiving my ballot. No bogus votes in Florida. Thank you, Mr. DeSantis.

      henrybowman in reply to navyvet. | October 28, 2024 at 1:35 pm

      Out here in the stix, I was forced to use a drop box, but it was inside Town Hall at a location that is locked up when it isn’t actively manned (utility payments, etc.), so I had no qualms.

      So the Phoenix guy torched a mailbox, not a drop box, which had a few ballots in it, and was in a deep blue section of Phoenix. I believe him when he says it wasn’t politically motivated, because if it was, it was the most half-assed election vandalism possible.

      SeiteiSouther in reply to navyvet. | October 28, 2024 at 1:39 pm

      I participated in early voting on Saturday with my wife. It took us all of 5 minutes and there was a good amount of people there. I took early voting because I have a trial running next week and didn’t want to wait in line day of.

      Whatever happens, I’m glad I did my small part.

      LeftWingLock in reply to navyvet. | October 28, 2024 at 1:47 pm

      Drop boxes are there to make life convenient for people who want to vote 30 or 40 times.

      The Gentle Grizzly in reply to navyvet. | October 28, 2024 at 3:58 pm

      I’m trying to vote early here in NE TN, but the local voting hall is and has been jammed with people.

      txvet2 in reply to navyvet. | October 28, 2024 at 4:59 pm

      I drove by the early voting location yesterday to see how big the crowd was. To my shock, the parking lot was mostly empty so I went on in. No line. I walked straight to the registration table, signed in and voted. By the time I was done, there was a full house and about another 10 people in line. Timing is everything.

    sfharding in reply to CommoChief. | October 28, 2024 at 7:23 pm

    And that’s the relevant point. All this other nonsense about whether it was a blue site or not many ballots is nonsense, it’s conjecture, and it is dangerous. We should not accept anything less than in person voting, paper ballots, and voter ID.

This is the best tactic to ensure in person voting. If these boxes were ignited around the country, that is.

    Dimsdale in reply to Halcyon Daze. | October 28, 2024 at 12:58 pm

    Or, if they insist on them, put them in police stations, or, as may be more appropriate, fire stations.

    Problem solved. They are open 24 hours, and the cops/fire can keep an eye on them.

    It would discourage dumping, so the Dems will fight it, unnaturally. How many illegals are going to stroll into a police station too?

    Win-win.

      murkyv in reply to Dimsdale. | October 29, 2024 at 3:38 am

      Firestations are where a lot of rural communities hold elections

      Seems like a good place for a drop box

      (We don’t have that option in Indiana. Only absentee or in person, ID in hand)

It sounds as if the incident in Phoenix wasn’t actually targeting ballots, so that leaves us with two targeted arsons, one in Portland, the other in Vancouver.

So the question is, why target *those* places, of all places, for electoral shenanigans? They’re going to go blue, they’re going to go deep, deep blue, it doesn’t matter if you burn 50 ballots or 50 thousand.

The only workable theory I have is that it really has nothing to do with flipping the vote. It’s just happening in deep blue areas because that’s where the crazy people who embrace political violence live, and they’re not inclined to drive long distances or think through strategy very deeply.

Dolce Far Niente | October 28, 2024 at 12:05 pm

So instead of a Reichstag fire, it will be a Ballot Box conflagration?

There is simply no way to secure these ballot drop boxes. They should be illegal. They’re mainly just a drop-off location for Dim ballot harvesting schemes (aka cheating)

All voting should be in-person with incredibly rare exceptions, only granted in situations where it is truly necessary, such as military on over-seas deployment or a bed-ridden voter.

    henrybowman in reply to Paul. | October 28, 2024 at 1:46 pm

    This means getting rid of “early voting” for both sides. Well, I’m game, but it’ll never happen.

      I would prefer no early voting but in person doesn’t require no early voting. It only requires no drop boxes and only an in person locations manned at all time. To be secure it would necessarily need to have a multi party staff but that would still allow early voting.

        Dolce Far Niente in reply to Martin. | October 28, 2024 at 4:39 pm

        Police stations and fire stations would be the ideal places if you insist on dropboxes.

          ThePrimordialOrderedPair in reply to Dolce Far Niente. | October 28, 2024 at 4:55 pm

          I insist on NO DROPBOXES. No ballot can be trusted that is not personally handed to an official in an official setting where it is immediately put under safe custody.

          I went to vote early in PA. It was at the local courthouse and i figured that it would be normal, in-person voting, either with a machine or with ballots collected individually … I waited almost an hour in a very slow-moving line to finally find out that all they were doing was handing people ballots outside (in the line) and then, when the people filled them out, putting those ballots in the outdoor dropbox by the courthouse side. I was incensed. That was a complete sham. I left and will vote on election day, even though I take the risk of them pulling dem voting crimes by not providing enough ballots or other tactics.

          This is all so pathetic. Elections need to be made normal and in-person and on one day and the people responsible for all of this insanity in the present day “procedures”, fit for fraud, need to be charged with any of a litany of crimes that any creative prosecutor could easily come up with.

        txvet2 in reply to Martin. | October 28, 2024 at 5:06 pm

        If you don’t like early voting, it would tend to indicate that you don’t mind standing in line for a couple of hours. If it’s done the way it is here, in person early voting is tightly controlled, thoroughly documented and (outside of Houston and some parts of Dallas) pretty much fraud proof. It also gives you the opportunity to confirm that your vote has been logged.

      CommoChief in reply to henrybowman. | October 28, 2024 at 6:02 pm

      TX has early in person voting and it works just like election day.

        midge.hammer in reply to CommoChief. | October 29, 2024 at 4:59 pm

        With the notable exception that they’re counted via Dominion machines, GA early voting is the same. I am not sure what the status is regarding unmanned, 24-hr. accessible, outdoor dropboxes this go-round. I know they were used in 2020. I believe we put the kibosh on that bullshit since.

Seems like a rather potent argument for in-person voting

Nothing to see here, folks. Move along.

Court records showed Klofkorn pleaded guilty to a drug paraphernalia charge in 2023.

Klofkorn pleaded guilty to an aggravated assault charge in 2018. The Republic reported that Klofkorn, then 29, attempted to grab a Surprise police officer’s gun and was tackled by construction workers who observed the incident.

    henrybowman in reply to Tiki. | October 28, 2024 at 1:52 pm

    “Surprise!”
    It’s really fun to live practically next door to a small city called Surprise. (DW and I refer to it as the “edge of civilization,” as it’s the closest place to us that has box and home-improvement stores and non-fast-food chain restaurants.)
    The cop cars all say, “Surprise, police!” (Punctuation added.)
    The local senior limo-bus company is named “To My Surprise.”
    I was curious who would name a city Surprise and why. All the sources say is that the original town was named after Surprise, Kansas. But nowhere on the web is there an explanation of why THEY named THEIR town Surprise. 😡

      But nowhere on the web is there an explanation of why THEY named THEIR town Surprise.
      Then it wouldn’t be a surprise any more.

      CommoChief in reply to henrybowman. | October 28, 2024 at 6:06 pm

      Isn’t that town the place the Mayor had the Police drag out and arrest a woman during the public comment period for speaking critically of raising the salary of the city attorney? I believe the website named ‘The Civil Rights Lawyer’ posted that video.

      It’s a surname!

Vancouver/Portland = antifa

ThePrimordialOrderedPair | October 28, 2024 at 12:57 pm

There should never have been any “drop-off ballot boxes” to begin with. The idea is ridiculous and as stupid as any idea ever … except for those who like fraudulent elections, in which case drop-off ballot boxes are the perfect tool.

Mail-in ballots are a ridiculous offense to our intelligence and should never be allowed if anyone cared about election integrity, at all, but drop-off ballot boxes are 4 orders of magnitude worse.

Everyone who pushed mail-in ballots or ballot boxes on us is part of a massive election fraud conspiracy and really should be held liable and punished for it.

E Howard Hunt | October 28, 2024 at 1:01 pm

Nothing to worry about here. Burning this layer of ballots provides a nutrient rich environment to bring in a bumper ballot harvesting crop.

I recommend voting early if you do not want to wait for a very long time on Election Day. I voted today in NJ and it was packed and well run. They said there were huge lines over the weekend.

I voted on our first day of early voting, which was a Saturday. By the time the polling place opened at 9am, the line was from the door to the curb and wrapped around the parking lot. Even at that, they had obviously practiced and were prepared, the whole process took maybe 20 minutes and I wasn’t at the head of the line. Will it matter? Probably not, Trump will win here anyhow and that’s already a known quantity.

destroycommunism | October 28, 2024 at 1:25 pm

white males who dont appear to need a tampon?

ballot discarded

Not saying I condone, but…..

Is someone concerned the voting isn’t going their way? Hmmmm?

But dems promised that elections were secure??