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Victor Davis Hanson Fact Checks Tucker’s ‘Historian’ on World War II and Churchill

Victor Davis Hanson Fact Checks Tucker’s ‘Historian’ on World War II and Churchill

“a guest historian named Darryl Cooper casually presented a surprising number of flawed theories”

https://youtu.be/gn9q7JEscqY

In cases of history, it is always wise to listen to Victor Davis Hanson. The man is a walking, talking encyclopedia.

Hanson writes at the Free Press:

Victor Davis Hanson: The Truth About World War II

In a recent and now widely seen Tucker Carlson interview, a guest historian named Darryl Cooper casually presented a surprising number of flawed theories about World War II. He focused his misstatements on the respective roles of Winston Churchill’s Britain and Adolf Hitler’s Germany—especially in matters of the treatment and fate of Russian prisoners, the Holocaust, the systematic slaughtering of Jews, strategic bombing, and the nature of Winston Churchill.

Because of the size of the audience Carlson introduced him to, and because of the gravity of Cooper’s falsehoods, his assertions deserve a response.

On the Treatment of Russian Prisoners

It is simply not true, as Cooper alleges, that Hitler’s Wehrmacht was completely surprised and unprepared for the mass capitulation of the Red Army and some two million Russian prisoners who fell into German hands in summer 1941.

The virtual extinction of these POWs in the first six months of the war was a natural consequence of a series of infamous and so-called “criminal orders” issued by Hitler in spring 1941 to be immediately implemented in his planned “war of extermination” in the East.

The edicts variously targeted for elimination prominent Soviet officials, intellectuals, Jews, and commissars. Just as importantly, Hitler exempted German soldiers from any criminal liability in what was expected to be the mass killing of Russians and Jews in general.

In Mein Kampf, during the lead-up to the war, and even through the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact years, Hitler had planned eventually to invade Russia, destroy the Soviet Union, put an end to what he called Jewish Bolshevism, and annex and then eventually resettle almost all of European Russia. In part he was encouraged by the German success in briefly absorbing much of Western Russia in late 1917 and early 1918.

Accordingly, Hitler and his planners envisioned a quick Russian campaign. Chief of the Army General Staff, General Franz Halder, believed that Operation Barbarossa, which began on June 22, 1941, had essentially been won in its first eleven days. Halder matter-of-factly wrote in his diary that the Russian population would have to be disposed of during that first winter to save Germans the effort of feeding and maintaining them.

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I am glad that he has done the debunking, but I will be blunt. He is not the first the second, the tenth, or even millionth historian to do so.

Anyone engaged in Holocaust denial at this point is not asking questions that a historian could answer they are just anti-Semites, who I think despise the United States, and western allies of the United States (i.e. Tucker Carlson and Daryl Cooper).

Proof? Dozens of historians did the same thing on youtube, youtube comments filled up with vitriolic condemnations of the historians instead of “thanks for answering my questions about the Holocaust”.

Political campaigns in the United States have for a hundred years known that the more you get someone to invest in you the harder it is for them to sever themselves from you.

Whatever you have invested in Tucker you are with an America hating anti-Semitic Holocaust denier at this point.

His take on the atomic bomb is “we should have killed ten million Japanese civilians, millions of Imperial Army and Navy Servicemen, and a Million American soldiers because I am pretending to be outraged about the use of the atomic bombs without mentioning the incomparably higher death toll without them because those millions of dead are just the invasion of Japan, Britain was finishing up in Burma and preparing further campaigns against the Imperial Japanese Army in the rest of Asia, and the Russians meeting the Japanese in China would have been a blood bath to”.

People returning to the Atomic Bomb aren’t always anti-Semitic but they are ALWAYS anti-American.

    Danny in reply to Danny. | September 7, 2024 at 4:53 pm

    I meant to say “Whatever you have invested in Tucker you are with an America hating anti-Semitic Holocaust denier at this point if you chose to continue that investment and remain in team Tucker Carlson.”

    Milhouse in reply to Danny. | September 7, 2024 at 5:44 pm

    Anyone engaged in Holocaust denial at this point is not asking questions that a historian could answer they are just anti-Semites,

    Well, not anyone, just almost anyone. Almost everyone who questions the Holocaust doesn’t really question it, they support it. They’re just lying when they say it happened; what they really believe is that it did happen and it was a good thing.

    But there are some very rare exceptions, people who are so skeptical they question everything they can’t personally verify, including but far from limited to the Holocaust.

    I was shocked when I first heard the late SEK3 question the Holocaust, because I knew him well enough to know that there wasn’t an antisemitic bone in his body. But someone took me aside and explained that he also didn’t accept the evidence that smoking causes cancer (and I’m talking about actual smoking here, not “second-hand smoking”). So his skepticism was genuine.

      The Gentle Grizzly in reply to Milhouse. | September 7, 2024 at 7:35 pm

      OK, I’ll bite: SEK3 is…?

      Milhouse in reply to Milhouse. | September 7, 2024 at 11:29 pm

      Of course I meant to write that they’re just lying when they say it didn’t happen.

      Danny in reply to Milhouse. | September 8, 2024 at 2:26 am

      How well did you really know him? Even if he was perfectly nice to Jews in his life a lot of anti-Semites rationalize their hating “The Jews” or have an “anti-Semitism present company excluded” rule.

      I have a very hard time thinking a board member on a company that has anti-Semitism as the only reason to exist isn’t anti-Semitic (i.e. it isn’t just Holocaust denial, promoting the lie that Leo Frank was guilty is also very important to them).

        Milhouse in reply to Danny. | September 8, 2024 at 7:05 am

        I didn’t know him super well, but I got no vibes at all, and he had a lot of Jewish friends. Also, if I recall correctly he supported Israel, which is not common for those kind of people. So I think he was just into believing the opposite of whatever the “consensus of authorities” tells us to believe.

          Danny in reply to Milhouse. | September 8, 2024 at 5:19 pm

          He seems like someone who was extremely mentally unstable to me who didn’t know what to think because of the people he hung out with. I say that after looking up more about him.

          One exception however more or less just confirms the rule.

          Milhouse in reply to Milhouse. | September 9, 2024 at 12:19 am

          I would disagree with “mentally unstable”, but he was certainly different, and very much an exception, not just to this rule but to many rules.

          As I wrote above, almost anyone who claims not to believe the Holocaust happened is lying; they do believe it, and wish it hadn’t been stopped in the middle. In the case of the “Palestinians” they were Germany’s allies in WW2 and are still trying to complete the job.

          People who genuinely question whether it happened are very rare, because the evidence is so overwhelming. Just as people who genuinely believe in a flat earth (most “flat earthers” are just participating in an elaborate joke).

I admit that I have not listened to this particular interview, and probably won’t. But I listened to most of the Andrew Tate interview. Tate started out so reasonable, I was with him, until he started talking about Romania, and something just didn’t seem right. Tucker had asked something along the lines of what was his response to accusations of sex trafficking in Romania, and then I started hearing how great Romania is, blah-blah-blah. I became uncomfortable listening to him, so I looked him up online, and, yeah, there was a lot to be uncomfortable about. Quite a chameleon. But that is the point of Tucker’s interviewing style. Keep ’em talking, let them hang themselves.

That, gentlemen, is what I think the point of free speech is. A bad actor will inadvertently reveal himself. Poor ideas will flounder. Just keep ’em talking.

    Danny in reply to CincyJan. | September 8, 2024 at 2:37 am

    That simply isn’t true, Tucker does the softball uncritical interview with people he loves and harsh unforgiving heavy interruption and laughing at and pushback (including calling them liars as they are speaking) with people he doesn’t like or isn’t promoting.

    Tucker also uses facial expression to let his audience know if he loves or hates what his guest says. His facial expression was positive towards the Holocaust denier after lying to his audience by introducing him as an honest historian (he is neither a historian nor is he honest).

    I am glad that despite Tucker being an uncritical supporter of Andrew Tate and trying to promote a man with a “Pimping Hoes Degree” course young men have to pay top dollar for that involves him teaching them to abuse teenage girls you managed to see through Tate, but remember his friendly interview style to Mike Pence at the presidential debate?

    Tucker is a vile human being plain and simple. Everything you are getting from him you could get somewhere else without promotion of Andrew Tate, or Holocaust Denial, or Alien Conspiracy Theories, or condemnation of the United States as a political entity.

      CincyJan in reply to Danny. | September 8, 2024 at 11:21 am

      I listened to Tucker regularly on Fox News, and I valued his opinion. I categorily disagree with your assessment. Tucker is certainly not a “vile human being.” He’s never put a baby in an ovej t0 roast or dismembered a kitten. I stand by my assessment that Tucker lets the interview subject talk and talk and talk, until he reveals himself. This is free speech. It’s the purpose of free speech and the value of it.

        Milhouse in reply to CincyJan. | September 8, 2024 at 4:32 pm

        He’s never put a baby in an oven t0 roast, but he’s OK with the people who did.

          CincyJan in reply to Milhouse. | September 8, 2024 at 11:07 pm

          I am shocked you would make such a statement.

          Milhouse in reply to Milhouse. | September 9, 2024 at 12:14 am

          Why are you shocked? It’s literally true. He’s made it clear he’s OK with Hamas and with the Holocaust, and that is just not OK.

          CincyJan in reply to Milhouse. | September 9, 2024 at 1:02 am

          Ridiculouis. That is an idiotic assertion. And, in answer to your comment below to my reply to Danny, my reasoning is in my prior posts. I owe Danny squat. I don’t have to listen to his recommended You Tubes, I don’t have to read what he says I should, I don’t take homework assignments. And, frankly, I had thought you more intelligent than this last assertion of yours. It’s just silly.

          Milhouse in reply to Milhouse. | September 9, 2024 at 9:35 am

          Far from an idiotic assertion, it’s the literal truth.

          And Danny posted evidence of how Carlson treats guests he disagrees with. He does not behave as you claimed, giving them rope to hang themselves. He makes his disagreement very clear. And in this case he didn’t, because he agrees with the nazi guest. Which makes him a nazi too.

        Danny in reply to CincyJan. | September 8, 2024 at 5:18 pm

        Here is Tucker blowing up at a historian for disagreeing with him

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_nFI2Zb7qE

        The vile nazi you are fully supporting right now on grounds that he provides you identical commentary to what hundreds if not thousands of conservative podcasters who aren’t nazis do was purely supportive of the Holocaust denier on his show.

        However as I did with almost no effort anyone he doesn’t agree with is handled very roughly by Tucker.

        Tucker can’t even handle people questioning if Mexico is a hostile enemy.

        The fact that he has a trademark hostile disgusted face to use on non-agreeing people speaks for itself.

        I am not speaking out against hostile interviews or obnoxiousness from journalists, merely pointing out the sheer dishonesty someone has to do to claim it is just Tucker’s style.

        Think it is Tucker’s style just watch how accommodating he is with someone he doesn’t agree with which should be easy because I posted a video example here.

          CincyJan in reply to Danny. | September 8, 2024 at 11:10 pm

          I have no respect for an idiot who would call Tucker Carlson a “vile Nazi.” You are judgmental and stubborn and I have no respect for your opinion. Period.

          Milhouse in reply to Danny. | September 9, 2024 at 12:15 am

          Cincy, you haven’t given any reasons to believe that it’s not true.

          tbonesays in reply to Danny. | September 9, 2024 at 4:37 am

          Danny; facial expressions? That’s all you got?

          Danny in reply to Danny. | September 9, 2024 at 8:29 am

          TBONES YOU LYING ASSHOLE NAZI ASSHOLE!!!!!!

          I LITERALLY LINKED FOOTAGE TO TUCKER INTERUPTING A GUEST

          I literally linked to video footage of how Tucker deals with people who he doesn’t agree with.

          The facial disrespect by the way is significant because it contrasts with his eagerness with Holocaust denial.

          The fact that you read the end but not the start of the post….no you read it all and could have clicked the fucking link, and I think you did and you did see how Tucker interrupted and insulted the leftwing historian for thinking Fox is part of the reason why taxes for billionaires isn’t higher and that Tucker is part of the global elite (wow can’t handle someone saying you the heir to a fortune of hundreds of millions who are worth millions and benefitted from upper class upbringing is an elite or that Fox opposes higher taxes?)

          I have no respect for goose stepping nazis or their apologists and that includes you.

        Danny in reply to CincyJan. | September 9, 2024 at 8:35 am

        Cincy worshipping a human being is a surefire way to go straight to hell when you die. I just proved Tucker engaged in Holocaust denial by showing what he does when a guest is either offensive to him or disagrees with him. I posted an interview that shows how he deals with people he disagrees with or he doesn’t like.

        He literally supports people who actually did put babies in ovens both the Nazi Holocaust and Hamas’ October 7th.

        He is promoting a man who pretends to be a historian (he isn’t) and is promoting Holocaust denial.

        If that doesn’t make him a vile Nazi neither is Hitler a Nazi.

        You are an evil person and you are defending actual Nazism.

        If you have a question about the Holocaust you do have to go see if Historians have answered it (there is a 100% chance they have).

        The fact you are turning to Tucker Carlson to deny it…..

        This is not a freedom of speech issue by stance on free speech is everyone including goose stepping neo-Nazis like Tucker Carlson and yourself get to say what they wish in the public square, and the United States Government should regulate social medias as utilities to guarantee that free speech the way they do other public places.

        This is a free speech issue if I said Tucker should be arrested for speaking.

        The fact that you are fine with Holocaust denial, and worship Tucker ….. hope you like heat you will get a lot of it when you die but you will get to ask Adolph Hitler if it was true.

        BigRosieGreenbaum in reply to CincyJan. | September 9, 2024 at 10:44 am

        He doesn’t need to roast up babies to be vile. I don’t know what his problem is with Jews, but they seem to occupy a significant portion of his mind in a bad way. He goes out of his way to make claims that Jews, Jews in charge, suppress Christians from practicing their religion. Then he has Mr. holocaust denier on his show and tries to present him as a really super smart and an honest historian. Notice the use of the word honest. Anyway, I lean toward him being a straight up anti semite, with some underlying mental health problems, as opposed to someone just trying to stir the pot with old tired worn out crap for popularity. Maybe one day he’ll show us on his money belt where the bad Jew took advantage of him.

      Danny in reply to Danny. | September 9, 2024 at 8:24 am

      tbones

A quote from Robert Spencer of PJ Media: “Darryl Cooper was making not-so-subtle points about today’s political scene, and how certain controversial issues should be approached.” In other words, Spencer claims Cooper was publicizing an apologia for current leftist tactics. At least someone gave the interview some serious thought! VDH excepted, of course.