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Starliner Crew’s 8 Day Trip to ISS May Morph Into 8 Month Stay

Starliner Crew’s 8 Day Trip to ISS May Morph Into 8 Month Stay

I will look forward to reporting on the successful return of the Starliner crew…maybe in time for Valentine’s Day.

The last time we checked on the status of the Boeing Starliner, the National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA) weighed the possibility of using the SpaceX Dragon craft to return the two astronauts from the International Space Station (ISS).

That possibility is looking more like a possibility. Therefore, Butch Wilmore and Suni Williams are looking at their 8-day trip morphing into a 8-month excursion.

The two astronauts who have already been stuck in space for more than 60 days may have to wait until early 2025 before they can return to Earth — following a trip to the International Space Station that was supposed to last just eight days.

NASA also acknowledged that the astronauts, who arrived on the maiden voyage of the Boeing Starliner spacecraft, may have to be rescued by the rival SpaceX CrewDragon, though that vessel won’t be ready until February.

On Wednesday, NASA announced another delay in bringing home Butch Wilmore and Suni Williams during a news conference, with the agency saying it’s now looking more closely at an alternative plan utilizing SpaceX’s Crew-9 mission.

If tests in the coming weeks suggest that making the trip home on Starliner proves too risky, Steve Stich, NASA’s Commercial Crew Program manager, said Wilmore and Williams would have no choice but to hop on Crew-9’s return flight in February 2025.

The decision is not final, but there have been rumblings from the NASA team about Boeing. A lot of trust has been lost, and goodwill has been squandered.

While Boeing has long been one of NASA’s most trusted partners, the space agency’s confidence in the company has languished, according to a person familiar with the thinking of NASA’s leadership.

“They just don’t trust Boeing anymore,” said the person, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak publicly. “There’s been lots of times when they said, ‘This is good,’ and it turns out not to be good.”

If NASA abandons Starliner for the return mission and use SpaceX’s Dragon as a rescue craft, it would be another humiliating blow for Boeing. The company’s commercial airliner program has been reeling since fatal 737 Max disasters in 2018 and 2019, and assembly problems have been exposed by an incident this January, when a door panel blew off during an Alaska Airlines flight.

Adding more complexity to an already complex situation, the Starliner undocking software must be rewritten because the crew will likely no longer be onboard when the craft next detaches from the ISS.

Although the capability to undock without a crew exists within the flight software on Starliner, it is currently configured for crew operations. That is, during the process of undocking and moving away from the space station, the flight software takes certain actions, and the crew takes certain actions. This configuration change toward integrated operations between software and crew was made after the previous autonomous flight of Starliner in 2022 that flew to the space station and back.

“Essentially, what we’re asking the team is to go back two years in time and resurrect the software parameters that are required to give automatic responses to breakouts near the ISS should we have problem in close to ISS, which the software now allows them to do manually,” [Steve Stich, NASA Commercial Crew program manager] said. “The team is always updating these mission data loads as different things change.”

No work has been done on the autonomous software package since the flight in 2022. Ars reported it would take about four weeks to complete testing of this configuration change, and Stich confirmed this.

In his recent Substack, Glenn Reynolds reviews the institutional competence crisis, summarizing that when nobody’s life or livelihood is on the line, systems get “soggy.”

The Secret Service, whose failures in securing Trump’s Butler, PA speech are legendary and frankly hard to believe at this point, is one example. (Nor is the Butler event the Secret Service’s first embarrassment.)

The Navy, whose ships keep colliding and catching fire.

Major software vendor Crowdstrike, whose botched update shut down major computer systems around the world.

The United States government, which built entire floating harbors to support the D-Day invasion in Europe, but couldn’t build a workable floating pier in Gaza.

Hopefully, competence in all the systems will be restored sooner rather than later. I look forward to reporting on the successful return of the Starliner crew—maybe in time for Valentine’s Day.

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Comments

E Howard Hunt | August 8, 2024 at 9:16 am

Netflix has time to release a new series before the rescue- Gilligan’s Space Station.

MoeHowardwasright | August 8, 2024 at 9:32 am

What do you expect from Boeing, competency? They are a joke and produce products with almost zero quality control. FKH

I remember reading somewhere that there is a law that if the US sends astronauts into space there has to be an American recovery vehicle to retrieve them?

Also, can you say space babies?

The Gentle Grizzly | August 8, 2024 at 9:42 am

20th century: “When the last Airbus/Boeing airliner is flown to the scrapper, the crew will come home in a DC-9.”
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21st century ” “When the Boeing Starliner is abandoned in orbit, the crew will come home in a Space-X Crew-Dragon.”

Morning Sunshine | August 8, 2024 at 9:46 am

why am I having this song run through my head at the headline?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfSLuEj99d0

“but to hop on Crew-9’s return flight in February 2025.”
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Not quite as easy as “hop on”….their Boeing space suits are not compatible with Space_X Crew-Dragon. Don’t think Space-X suits are “off the rack”, so how will new suits be configured with the wearers in space?

The United States government, which built entire floating harbors to support the D-Day invasion in Europe, but couldn’t build a workable floating pier in Gaza.

The US government has never been a model of efficiency, but in the past it was still able to accomplish major objectives: win WWII, build Hoover Dam, land men on the Moon. None of those things could be accomplished with the current elected officials and the bureaucracy. About the only thing the US government does well is spy on and punish its own citizens.

This should not surprise us. The US is morphing into a Communist dictatorship, which means we get all of the “benefits” of a Communist system: terror mixed with grotesque incompetence.

Boeing Starliner crew’s six-day mission, now extended perhaps into 2025, is giving off real Gilligan’s Island vibe.

… a six-day mission …

destroycommunism | August 8, 2024 at 10:49 am

dei = doom

I hope Boeing is paying them overtime, and double on holidays.

The ship does not have the ability to return to earth automatically? What were they planning, bringing it down by manual steering?

    PrincetonAl in reply to geronl. | August 8, 2024 at 10:02 pm

    It did – they did an unmanned trip using it – but they turned it off for this trip for the crew to pilot it.

    Another brilliant move.

If it’s Boeing, they might be going, but they ain’t coming back.

Actually, the statement that the US built entire floating harbors to support the D-Day invasion needs qualifying. I remember reading that the big concrete boxes that were floated to the D-day area to form breakwaters were Churchill’s idea and built in Scotland, but once installed they didn’t last any longer than the Gaza pier. Like that one, rough weather destroyed them.