JD Vance: ‘When Tim Walz was Asked by His Country to go to Iraq He Dropped Out of the Army’
“Well I wonder, Tim Walz, when were you ever in war? What was this weapon that you carried into war, given that you abandoned your unit right before they went to Iraq?”
A reporter asked Republican VP candidate Sen. JD Vance about presumptive Democrat VP candidate Gov. Tim Walz’s military record.
A clip has been going around of Walz saying he wanted to ban guns that he used in combat.
Except..he never faced combat. He quit before his battalion left for Iraq.
Well, Vance, a man who actually served in combat, had some harsh words for Walz:
VANCE: “Again, if you guys ever get an opportunity to ask Tim Walz or Kamala Harris some questions, he made this interesting comment that the Kamala Harris campaign put out there, and I bet they’re regretting they put it out there now because he said that we — and he was making a point about gun control — he said, we shouldn’t allow weapons that I used in war to be on America’s streets. Well, I wonder Tim Walz, when were you ever in war? When was this — what was this weapon that you carried into war, given that you abandoned your unit right before they went to Iraq and he has not spent a day in a combat zone? What bothers me about Tim Walz is the stolen valor garbage. Do not pretend to be something that you’re not. And if he wants to criticize me for getting an Ivy league education, I’m proud of the fact that my mamaw supported me, that I was able to make something of myself. I’d be ashamed if I was him and I lied about my military service like he did.”
You know what really bothers me about Tim Walz?
When the US Marine Corps asked me to go to Iraq to serve my country, I did it.
When Tim Walz was asked by his country to go to Iraq, he dropped out of the Army and allowed his unit to go without him. I think that's shameful. pic.twitter.com/Dq9xjn4R51
— JD Vance (@JDVance) August 7, 2024
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Walz or Shapiro?
The left ALWAYS chooses the Reich.
Mawmaw
But he’s right and should pound this at every interview, ads, rally
And Tim Walz , Mr 100%
Kamala Running Mate Tim Walz Received Perfect Rating from Iran Lobby.
Governor Tim Walz (D-MN), tapped by Kamala Harris on Tuesday as her 2024 running mate, is the latest figure with concerning ties to Iran to enter the Democratic presidential nominee’s orbit. The dark horse vice presidential nominee attained a perfect rating from the Iran lobby while serving in Congress from 2007 until winning the Minnesota governorship in 2019.While Walz often touts his close ties to Minnesota’s Mulsim Somali immigrant community, his tenure in Congress saw him back a bevy of votes advancing the Islamic Republic of Iran’s interests, too. During his last term as a member of the House of Representatives, Walz was given a 100 percent rating by the National Iranian American Council (NIAC). As a pro-Ayatollah Khamenei regime foreign interest lobby, NIAC pushes U.S. lawmakers to support the Islamic Republic’s agenda on Capitol Hill
Question for Donald Trump: “When were you ever in war? Why did you apply and get 5 deferments, instead of serving America in the Vietnam War? Are you a coward? What do you say to the American soldier who was killed in your place while serving our country in Vietnam, so that you could live your privileged life?”
The point is stolen valor, JR. Try to keep up.
1. His opposite number is named Vance not Trump
2. Vance deployed to Iraq and served honorably
3. If Vance say slips on a banana and dies that doesn’t change what was done.
4. If you want to discuss Trump fine. Lets discuss the fact that he never claimed to be in the military.
Clarification-Trump never claimed to be in the military and never tried to mislead people.
I think it is significant that Trump has an admiration for people in uniform not just soldiers but cops, paramedics, firefighters etc to.
There’s no shame in applying for deferments that were legally available. There’s just no praise in it either. Having his daddy find a doctor to diagnose him with a spurious condition (if that’s really what happened) is more of a problem, but at this point not a major one.
his weapon of choice?
the msm
It would be the part of discretion for this Marine to keep his trap shut since he saw no combat either. I respect both Republicans and Democrats who saw combat.
“he saw no combat either”
He’s not claiming he did. But wherever the Corps sent him, he went, and did whatever they asked him to do.
Unlike Walz.
True, but he shouldn’t push that too hard. Let Trump handle that portion. Tom Cotten would be more the guy to insult Walz.
My man, I believe he was forward deployed to Al-Asad for the better part of year. That’s the same airbase that came under rocket attack two-days ago, seriously wounding five service members and two US contractors. I’m not exactly sure when he was there. But, during my TRHEE tours in Iraq, Al-Asad and most other bases outside of the northern governorates (like Erbil & Kirkuk) would frequently see random mortar attacks.
Everyone in-country was at risk of dying, particularly 2004 to 2007. I know quite a few people who wouldn’t have merited the Combat Action Ribbon save for the one incident that wounded or killed them because they weren’t operating in a ‘combat billet.’ During the peak of the insurgency, just traveling in a convoy from the Baghdad to literally anywhere else was a white-knuckle experience.
His country called and he went where he was sent like many of us so you keep your mouth shut about those of us who have worn the uniform and did the same.
I am old enough to remember Dan Quayle and his service in the National Guard. The Communists and the lapdog media claimed being in the NG meant Quayle was a coward who avoided combat in Vietnam.
Now the Communists pick someone who was in the NG and actually dodged combat – and that is suddenly cool.
There are no principles the Communists will not flip-flop on when needed. The only constants are (1) a demonic lust for power, and (2) the willingness to slaughter the innocent to get it.
pepperidge farms (me) remembers.
I have to ask for my home companions from the prairie…were you disgruntled before reformation?
Same with W.
W’s squadron was tasked for deployment to Vietnam, but the powers that be cancelled the deployment. What’s your point?
Lol. Where do you morons get this bullshit? Bush was qualified to fly the F-102. What was the F102? It was an aging delta-wing fighter designed in the late 1940s and put into production 20+ years before Bush became a pilot. It was an OLD platform. By the mid 1960s, the F-102s were being taken out of active service and transferred to the – wait for it – Air National Guard. No one – absolutely no one – was calling up Air National Guard units to bring back the fighters they had deactivated from active service. The last F102s left the Vietnam theater in early 1969…a FULL YEAR before W was a qualified pilot.
Yeah, but flying those things in order to get out of going to Vietnam would be a foolish trade, because they were more dangerous than service in Vietnam. W Bush was at more risk sitting on the runway in his ancient plane, with the engine running, ready to go into combat at any moment, than he would probably have been had he gone to Vietnam instead.
“he saw no combat either”
He’s not claiming he did. But wherever the Corps sent him, he went, and did whatever they asked him to do.
Unlike Walz.
His statement INFERS combat. “My racing car has a 427 cubic inch engine.” Nice thing about inferring is that “I didn’t exactly say that”..
Implies not infers. And no he didn’t.
“The main difference between these two words is that a speaker can imply, but a listener can only infer.” I can infer while Walz can imply.
Walz: “We can make sure those weapons of war, that I carried in war, are only carried in war”. Here he implies that the weapon he carried (outside of any theater of conflict) is the same as what he wants to ban.
The AR-15 was never issued to American forces. It lacks the significant functionality of fully automatic firing. It’s just another auto-loading rifle initially sold in the civilian marketplace from around 1904 onward and only later considered by the military.
I’m getting confused – perhaps.
Walz stated (not implied) that he carried weapons of war.
“…those weapons of war, that I carried in war…”
What “war”? What action?
I call Bravo Sierra.
From what I’m reading and hearing, he never went to war and never saw action; was never in harm’s way.
At the very best he was a REMF
Iraq was one big combat zone. There was no neat,.clear division between forward lines and safe rear areas due to the nature of asymmetric warfare. We had bases that were relatively secure and combat outposts that were far less so. Travel between and/or among them was hazardous. Roadside bombs, snipers, suicide bombers and VBIED didn’t discriminate. Everyone in theater was a potential target and everyone drew ‘combat pay’.
The distinction here is that Vance answered the Nation’s call, enlisted in the USMC, served honorably including a deployment to Iraq. Walz, in the SR enlisted slot for his BN, refused to lead his Soldiers into a combat deployment instead he chose to retire under questionable circumstances while failing to meet the conditions for his promotion. Which let’s be clear denied another qualified person from it and threw his unit into a degree of uncertainty and chaos as they prepared to deploy.
The closest Walz got to combat was Italy.
No his statement does not. He says he was deployed to Iraq which was within a Theater of Active Combat but he never said he was a door kicking stud. Tulsi was deployed into the Sandbox a couple of times but never claimed combat. As such both are eligible for the VFW and American Legion like I am. Know what the hell your talking about because vets know what he is saying.
He’s not claiming he did. But wherever the Corps sent him, he went, and did whatever they asked him to do.
Unlike Walz.
What do you mean? Are you saying that, in the man’s 24 year career as a Guardsman he never where he was told or followed any orders?
Because you sound like an ass.
Which is exactly what Vance sounds like. Deliberately.
THIS IS A TRAP.
I think you may be confused with respect to what happened. Walz had just been promoted to Command Sergeant Major and pursuant to that promotion, he reinlisted and applied for and was accepted to their formal Command Sergeant Major school. That school requires a 3-year commitment. Some time during the 1st year of that commitment, Walz’ unit received a notice of imminent activation (I believe the Guard calls it an Activation Warning). It’s at THAT point that Walz retires
To make matters worse, when Walz campaigned for Congress the first time, he described himself as ‘combat vet of the Global War on Terror, which is demonstrably false. But, there are other questions about his seperation beyond his fallacious claims. For instance, who let him retire AFTER his unit received an activation notice? That generally isn’t allowed unless the service member is up against a mandatory retirement deadline. 2nd, how was he allowed to retire after extending his enlistment that was signed to be eligible for the school he applied to? Lastly, those kinds of late-career extensions often come with cash bonuses. Were those repaid? No idea. But, these are some of the questions he has to answer.
When senior unit leaders spend career in peacetime collecting all the pay and benefits and then high-tail it out when the balloon goes up leaving a GAPING hole at the top of the chain-of-command, people are going to have problems with that.
This is a trap.
Walz served for 24 years in the 1st Battalion, 125th Field Artillery.
When Walz retired he had already served for over two decades..
He RETIRED. He didn’t quit. He didn’t go AWOL.
He retired.
He’d been in since the 80s.
This is bait.
Curious timing on the ‘retirement’. First he accepted a promotion which incurred an additional service obligation that extended past his ‘retirement’. Second it seems his unit was in receipt of mobilization orders for deployment to Iraq. Third his ‘retirement’ process was at minimum unorthodox as usually the unit members should be obliged to serve through the end of the deployment. The lone non punitive exception to that is medically unfit.
This isn’t complicated. His unit was called up to deploy and he chose to finagle a retirement. Perhaps the NG chain of command went along out of an unwillingness to make this a more public issue. The truth isn’t a trap.
“…is medically unfit.”
mentally unfit?
The kindest word I can think of to describe Walz is “blowhard”.
He retired before being exposed to real combat.
Dipshit. He is a coward who retired instead of leading his troops when he should have. He even left before signing the discharge papers and falsely claimed he could not serve and run for Congress at the same time.
Coward, liar
He just happened to retire right as they were deploying his National Guard unit, a couple of years before his hitch was up since he had just signed up again to accept a promotion. The dude Cut and Run when his guys were counting on him, he’s a coward.
I don’t think any of you are understanding.
I know everything you’re saying. This point is not new.
That’s why it feels like a trap.
It didn’t keep Walz from the governors seat.
he “retired” when it was no longer weekends at the lake
Vance never saw combat either. But he was in zone, so there was always the possibility of combat serving him. Walz didn’t have that either.
More importantly, when Vance was told he’s going to Iraq he went, and he did the job he was assigned. It happened not to be a combat role, but it could have been. Walz learned he was going, and decided it was time to retire.
Reminds me of John Kerry, who volunteered for service only because he heard that volunteers could choose their own assignments, and he wanted to choose the safest one he could find. Then when his unit was reassigned and sent into the combat zone, he immediately set about collecting three purple hearts as quickly as possible and with the least possible number of owies, so he could be sent home a “hero”.