California Wants to Give Noncitizens $150,000 to Buy a House
The Democrats really want another 2008 burst, don’t they? Oh wait, it’ll work out this time, right?
California, a state with the most illegal aliens, wants to give the noncitizens up to $150,000 to buy a house.
The state legislature will likely pass the bill by August 31. From Politico:
Democratic Gov. Gavin Newsom, a top surrogate for President Joe Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris, declined to say whether he would sign the measure if it clears the statehouse by the Aug. 31 deadline. He would likely make a decision while Republican nominee Donald Trump criticizes Harris over the influx in migrants at the U.S.-Mexico border early on in Biden’s tenure and as Harris moves to the right on immigration.
Harris, in her DNC acceptance speech Thursday said the country can “live up to our proud heritage as a nation of immigrants, and reform our broken immigration system.” While the California proposal targets prospective homebuyers and not new migrants, it could nonetheless carry a political risk for Harris by providing fodder for Trump as he seizes on anything that could link his opponent to the border crisis.
The Democrats really want another 2008 burst, don’t they? Oh wait, it’ll work out this time, right?
Sheesh. The thing is, the government should not be giving people any money to buy a house. Giving the money to only noncitizens is just the cherry on top (emphasis mine):
The bill’s author, Fresno Democrat Joaquin Arambula, countered that the bill specifies applicants must meet requirements set by the Federal National Mortgage Association, or Fannie Mae, including having a taxpayer identification number or social security number to apply for a loan, which means they’re taxpayers.
“It isn’t given out willy nilly to just anybody,” Democratic Assemblymember Eloise Gómez Reyes said at the June hearing.
The loan program, called California Dream for All, provides 20 percent in down payment assistance, up to $150,000. It is a shared appreciation loan in which the only interest the homebuyer pays would be 15 or 20 percent of the home’s increase in value upon selling the property, depending on their income level. The program has received state funding but is also run by the California Housing Finance Agency, which generates revenue through mortgage loans and not from taxpayers.
Taxpayers don’t fund the California Housing Finance Agency?
Interesting: “CalHFA is a self-supported state agency that doesn’t rely on taxpayers’ dollars for its operational costs but regularly administers various state and federal resources on behalf of the state.”
“State and federal resources.” In other words…money from taxpayers, right?
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when asked
why not $160k?
the dems said:
hey…WHY NOT!!!
Why not just give ’em the house?
They can have all the houses they want…
…in Mexico City.
In CA, that might buy you a shed.
Why not 1 million?? California is expensive to buy into.
gov nuisance gloated that CA had a surplus as CA came out of the
DemVid 19 fiasco
so to them ,,it gave a justification for giving it to those who “deserve it the most”
non citizens and criminals
dont forget THIS is on top of allll the other freebies
BTW.. ,many publications use the term
“loan”
complete bs!!
and the biggest demand of these “loans” is that you live in the home for at least 10 years….wow,,now thats a toughie
Hey! Doesn’t reparations for black folks come first?
No, way Jose.. Pedro says, “Last come, first served.”
Unbelievable
Well, why not? It’s not like the proles will ever be able to vote the Communists out of power. The main perk of absolute power free from any accountability is … wait for it … absolute power free from any accountability!
“The loan program, called California Dream for All”.
Isn’t “California Dream” a “flavor” of pot?
All the leaves are brown
And the sky is grey
I’d rather my state legislature pay Californians $150K to not move here.
/I am being unfair. I am a Californian in Tennessee, but, I left California in my rearview mirror; I didn’t bring it with me.
They ignore the homeless and want to give houses to illegals, insane
They especially ignore the homeless veterans.
They LOVE the homeless. For D’s the homeless are a huge cash cow.
The more they subsidize them, the more homeless there are.
Meanwhile, the NGO’s that function as the middlemen – entirely D operated – are raking in BILLIONS of taxpayer $$ each year.
These NGO’s not only are zealous voters for D candidates, they are also big contributors to D politician’s campaigns.
The homeless racket is big business, and those profiting are an important constituency. The absolute last thing anyone involved would ever want to do is actually reduce the number of homeless people.
Peter Thiel was on Joe Rogan last week and the topic of California came up. Theil – who’s no fan or friend of Newsom and cronies – made some points that I hadn’t really considered. While California is a mess for normal people, if it weren’t part of the US, it would still be one of the most economically powerful countries on the planet (6th largest in the world, by itself). With a third of the population of Japan, it produces more GDP. Per capita GOP in Japan is just over $30K. In California, it’s an eye-watering $100K. Five of the largest companies in the world are still headquartered there.
He compared it to Saudi Arabia; there is a small sect of extremists – Wahhabists & Wokesters – who make life difficult for everyone. But, they have each have their respective goldmines that pay the bills no matter how dysfunctional everyday life is with oil in Saudi and Big Tech in California. If something ever happens to their cash-cows, both cultures will quickly collapse.
gdp would take a hit if they seceded and we enforced borders.
that economy is that large due to them being a member of this union.
California isn’t seceding…and the US wouldn’t allow it even if it wanted to. Do some research about how much of the nation’s agricultural products are produced in California. It’s insane. The US heartland grows corn, soybean & wheat. But, just about everything else comes from California. California even grows more citrus than Florida now and produces more than 60% of all US citrus. In 2023, it was almost 80%.
But it still is, functionally, a hostile foreign country.
Subotai Bahadur
A few thousand families pay taxes that keep Cali from going totally into the red…. as in bottom line and not Republican. The unfunded mandates are pent up behind a thin dam of ongoing revenue. California is (was) great, not because of the Party but despite it. The Party believes they are the reason for California be “successful”. A two tier system focused on the illegal alien and second in line, foreign immigrants. Cali is becoming feudal in the eyes of Victor Davis Hanson… with the middle class being hollowed out. The Great Replacement is being perfected in California.
yeah and at one time nazi germnay was a powerhouse
anyone trying to justify wrong doing,,like socialism,,,,just b/c they have a metric ( strong economy) that is impressive is ill informed /naive or just one of those types who says
that the ends justify the means
otherwise stealing from a bank would be justifiable b/c after you stole from them and then made $$$$$$ in the stock market…you could claim that your policy of theft is actually morally correct
Nazi Germany was never a powerhouse. Hitler achieved his “economic miracle” the same way Mussolini made the trains run on time, or that Castro achieved his “medical miracle” — in all three cases they didn’t, but published statistics that said they did.
wont argue that
Per capita GDP, which provides an average, can be a misleading figure that provides an incomplete picture of an economy. In California, the tech industry likely raises the per capita figures significantly, giving its economy an appearance of strength that it does not truly have.
They are distracting you with size and gross.
CA nets a lot of disastrous fiscal policy and tries to blame it on everyone else. Yes, they have a large economy, but they run it into the ground with red tape and extortive policies.
Just what kind of house will $150K buy in California? A dumpster?
No, a tent and a shopping cart underneath a freeway overpass.
Oh, you really going to believe they are going to buy a house? I wouldn’t out it past them to have an exclusion clause where you can keep the money on the flimsiest of pretenses.
Per Rep. Arambula, a fun fact: the State of California does have an official Facilitator & Coordinator of Government Largesse, and the current officeholder is William E. Nilly.
When do we just admit that California is occupied territory and needs to be liberated?
Or admit that it is occupied territory and needs to be isolated.
Subotai Bahadur
Well well when will the SPLC be putting the State of California on its naughty list? Launching a program that blatantly discriminates against people based upon National Origin is supposed to be verboten.. or is this simply another instance where it is (D)ifferent when d/prog do it? Won’t hold my breath waiting for the usual suspects of the leftist lawfare SPLC, ACLU to oppose this.. though the NAACP just might do so.
No, it doesn’t, at least as far as I can tell. There’s nothing in the linked article that says it does, so I don’t know where that idea is coming from.
My mistake, the headline was a bit misleading. The eligibility is for 1st gen homebuyers. Defined as not having any ownership interest in past seven years AND whose Parents, if alive, don’t have an ownership interest or if deceased didn’t have an ownership interest in a residential property in the USA.
So it doesn’t directly/explicitly discriminate v US Citizens but as a practical effect using ‘disparate impact theory’ it seems reasonable to assume more US Citizens would be shut out by the eligibility terms than the foreign born, especially a 1st gen immigrant who arrived as an adult.
There is no “disparate impact theory” in the constitution, or in law. The most disparate impact can ever do is create a tentative and rebuttable presumption of discrimination.
When ownership interest of residential property outside the US isn’t considered disqualifying then wouldn’t that put US born Citizens at a disadvantage for qualifying compared to immigrants? Seems difficult to rebut the negative impact on non immigrants when ownership by Parents outside the USA isn’t considered disqualifying but the same within the USA is disqualifying.
Yes, but negative impact is not the same as discrimination, and does not violate any law. It can be taken as an indicator of discriminatory intent, so as to invite closer scrutiny, but that’s all. There’s certainly no disparate impact doctrine in equal protection cases.
Can’t we start charging them with aiding and abetting criminal activity?
No, because they’re not doing that. (Also, because a state can’t be charged with a crime.)
How is this possibly legal? National origin is a protected class both Federally and in California specifically. You can’t discriminate against someone because they were born in the United States.
Good point.
Indeed you can’t, but this doesn’t do that. All this bill seems to do is expand the eligibility criteria for a program that is already available to people here legally.
Well, if everyone here agrees with Trump that the States should be able to decide whether or not to kill a baby via abortion, even if it is after the baby is born, then why shouldn’t the States like California be allowed to give illegal aliens $150,000 to by a house? It’s a State’s rights issue, right? The Federal government should have nothing to do with it.
Derp.
Quit upvoting yourself, lonejustice.
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Even if it is California’s prerogative under federalism to gift obscene sums of money to illegal aliens, that doesn’t mean that such a manifestly idiotic and inequitable policy conceit isn’t fairly subject to criticism, ridicule and scorn — which is what the posters here are expressing.
And please point to the post that said anything about the Federal gummint getting involved?
Do you bring it up only so you can utter the thrilling word “Trump”?
Why yes. Yes, you did.
Question number one is where the hell does that money come from? The answer, of course, is that it is paid in taxes. So you’re suggesting that the State should be able to take from taxpayers, and then instead of using those funds in ways that benefit those taxpayers, it should squander those funds on things that help those taxpayers not at all. Where I come from, they call that theft.
No one said anything about the Fed. Just don’t use Fed dollars to prop up the scheme and enjoy watching your state burn.
Can this be court challenged? Why should legal california residents be forced to compete against illegal aliens for their first time starter homes?
To be fair, its not that they are being forced to compete with illegal aliens – they are being forced to buy illegal aliens houses.
Because the state legislature said so, and it has every right to say so. None of us has to like it, but there’s nothing in the constitution that says states can’t do this. Now if they excluded US citizens from the program then there’d be an Equal Protection violation. But they’re not.
In the Oblast of Alta California the army of invading foreign nationals have absolute priority over the subjects of the Oblast and of course any citizens of the United States. The Left and the Party so decree and there is no appeal by any political or judicial means.
Subotai Bahadur
“… having a taxpayer identification number or social security number to apply for a loan, which means they’re taxpayers.”
Oh really? That doesn’t necessarily mean that they are paying taxes.
I don’t understand why they think this is a good idea; it just creates a huge mess for everyone.
They don’t care.
Amazing that these politicians aren’t being hunted down by mobs with pitchforks and torches.
They outlawed all the pitchforks and torches first.
Wait, who said anything abouto only aliens being eligible. Nothing in the article you linked says that. It says everyone who meets the criteria would be eligible, regardless of citizenship or immigration status.
There is no limit to the depredations leftists are willing to inflict on taxpayers’ wallets.
If they do, the same morons will then ask, “Hey, how on earth did home prices jump by $150k?!”
It’s not the politicians money they give away