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Supreme Court: Trump Entitled To “At Least Presumptive Immunity From Prosecution For All His Official Acts”

Supreme Court: Trump Entitled To “At Least Presumptive Immunity From Prosecution For All His Official Acts”

Absolute immunity in carrying out “core constitutional powers”, and presumptive immunity for all official acts: “Congress may not criminalize the President’s conduct in carrying out the responsibilities of the Executive Branch under the Constitution.” Remands to determine whether actions at issue were official or personal.

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The U.S. Supreme Court just released its Opinion on Trump’s presidential immunity:

We conclude that under our constitutional structure of separated powers, the nature of Presidential power requires that a former President have some immunity from criminal prosecution for official acts during his tenure in office. At least with respect to the President’s exercise of his core constitutional powers, this immunity must be absolute. As for his remaining official actions, he is also entitled to immunity. At the current stage of proceedings in this case, however, we need not and do not decide whether that immunity must be absolute, or instead whether a presumptive immunity is sufficient….

It is these enduring principles that guide our decision in this case. The President enjoys no immunity for his unofficial acts, and not everything the President does is official. The President is not above the law. But Congress may not criminalize the President’s conduct in carrying out the responsibilities of the Executive Branch under the Constitution. And the system of separated powers designed by the Framers has always demanded an energetic, independent Executive. The President therefore may not be prosecuted for exercising his core constitutional powers, and he is entitled, at a minimum, to a presumptive immunity from prosecution for all his official acts. That immunity applies equally to all occupants of the Oval Office, regardless of politics, policy, or party.

Roberts wrote the majority opinion, with the usual suspects dissenting. ACB concurred in the majority in part.

OVERALL ASSESSMENT – VERY GOOD DAY FOR TRUMP

We have been covering whether and to what extent Trump enjoyed presidential immunity that would preclude the DC federal prosecution (and potentially the Georgia and Florida prosecutions) since last fall:

SCOTUS accepted the case for review on the following question:

“Whether and if so to what extent does a former President enjoy presidential immunity from criminal prosecution for conduct alleged to involve official acts during his tenure in office.”

The SCOTUS Opinion pretty much came down as I predicted after the oral argument (link above):

“I think they will simply find in response to their question that there is presidential immunity for official acts while done in office and send it back down to the district court to opine on whether the charges in this case involve official acts or not.”

Some selective passages from the majority opinion which may be relevant to how this plays out.

As to charge of unlawfully colluding with DOJ officials, absolute immunity:

The indictment’s allegations that the requested investigations were “sham[s]” or proposed for an improper purpose do not divest the President of exclusive authority over the investigative and prosecutorial functions of the Justice Department and its officials. App. 186–187, Indictment ¶10(c). And the President cannot be prosecuted for conduct within his exclusive constitutional authority. Trump is therefore absolutely immune from prosecution for the alleged conduct involving his discussions with Justice Department officials.

As to the charge of unlawfully pressuring Pence, presumptive immunity:

Whenever the President and Vice President discuss their official responsibilities, they engage in official conduct. Presiding over the January 6 certification proceeding at which Members of Congress count the electoral votes is a constitutional and statutory duty of the Vice President. Art. II, §1, cl. 3; Amdt. 12; 3 U. S. C. §15. The indictment’s allegations that Trump attempted to pressure the Vice President to take particular acts in connection with his role at the certification proceeding thus involve official conduct, and Trump is at least presumptively immune from prosecution for such conduct.

The question then becomes whether that presumption of immunity is rebutted under the circumstances. When the Vice President presides over the January 6 certification proceeding, he does so in his capacity as President of the Senate. Ibid. Despite the Vice President’s expansive role of advising and assisting the President within the Executive Branch, the Vice President’s Article I responsibility of “presiding over the Senate” is “not an ‘executive branch’ function.” Memorandum from L. Silberman, Deputy Atty. Gen., to R. Burress, Office of the President, Re: Conflict of Interest Problems Arising Out of the President’s Nomination of Nelson A. Rockefeller To Be Vice President Under the Twenty-Fifth Amendment to the Constitution 2 (Aug. 28, 1974). With respect to the certification proceeding in particular, Congress has legislated extensively to define the Vice President’s role in the counting of the electoral votes, see, e.g., 3 U. S. C. §15, and the President plays no direct constitutional or statutory role in that process. So the Government may argue that consideration of the President’s communications with the Vice President concerning the certification proceeding does not pose “dangers of intrusion on the authority and functions of the Executive Branch.” Fitzgerald, 457 U. S., at 754; see supra, at 14.

At the same time, however, the President may frequently rely on the Vice President in his capacity as President of the Senate to advance the President’s agenda in Congress. When the Senate is closely divided, for instance, the Vice President’s tiebreaking vote may be crucial for confirming the President’s nominees and passing laws that align with the President’s policies. Applying a criminal prohibition to the President’s conversations discussing such matters with the Vice President—even though they concern his role as President of the Senate—may well hinder the President’s ability to perform his constitutional functions.

It is ultimately the Government’s burden to rebut the presumption of immunity. We therefore remand to the District Court to assess in the first instance, with appropriate input from the parties, whether a prosecution involving Trump’s alleged attempts to influence the Vice President’s oversight of the certification proceeding in his capacity as President of the Senate would pose any dangers of intrusion on the authority and functions of the Executive Branch.

As to communications with persons – including state electors – outside the executive branch, it depends:

Unlike Trump’s alleged interactions with the Justice Department, this alleged conduct cannot be neatly categorized as falling within a particular Presidential function. The necessary analysis is instead fact specific, requiring assessment of numerous alleged interactions with a wide variety of state officials and private persons. And the parties’ brief comments at oral argument indicate that they starkly disagree on the characterization of these allegations. The concerns we noted at the outset—the expedition of this case, the lack of factual analysis by the lower courts, and the absence of pertinent briefing by the parties—thus become more prominent. We accordingly remand to the District Court to determine in the first instance—with the benefit of briefing we lack—whether Trump’s conduct in this area qualifies as official or unofficial.

As to Trump’s tweets and speech and other conduct on January 6, it depends:

Whether the Tweets, that speech, and Trump’s other communications on January 6 involve official conduct may depend on the content and context of each. Knowing, for instance, what else was said contemporaneous to the excerpted communications, or who was involved in transmitting the electronic communications and in organizing the rally, could be relevant to the classification of each communication. This necessarily factbound analysis is best performed initially by the District Court. We therefore remand to the District Court to determine in the first instance whether this alleged conduct is official or unofficial.

From the Sotomayor Dissent, Trump now can call out Seal Team 6:

Today’s decision to grant former Presidents criminal immunity reshapes the institution of the Presidency. It makes a mockery of the principle, foundational to our Constitution and system of Government, that no man is above the law. Relying on little more than its own misguided wisdom about the need for “bold and unhesitating action” by the President, ante, at 3, 13, the Court gives former President Trump all the immunity he asked for and more. Because our Constitution does not shield a former President from answering for criminal and treasonous acts, I dissent….

Looking beyond the fate of this particular prosecution, the long-term consequences of today’s decision are stark. The Court effectively creates a law-free zone around the President, upsetting the status quo that has existed since the Founding. This new official-acts immunity now “lies about like a loaded weapon” for any President that wishes to place his own interests, his own political survival, or his own financial gain, above the interests of the Nation. Korematsu v. United States, 323 U. S. 214, 246 (1944) (Jackson, J., dissenting). The President of the United States is the most powerful person in the country, and possibly the world. When he uses his official powers in any way, under the majority’s reasoning, he now will be insulated from criminal prosecution. Orders the Navy’s Seal Team 6 to assassinate a political rival? Immune. Organizes a military coup to hold onto power? Immune. Takes a bribe in exchange for a pardon? Immune. Immune, immune, immune.

Let the President violate the law, let him exploit the trappings of his office for personal gain, let him use his official power for evil ends. Because if he knew that he may one day face liability for breaking the law, he might not be as bold and fearless as we would like him to be. That is the majority’s message today.

Even if these nightmare scenarios never play out, and I pray they never do, the damage has been done. The relationship between the President and the people he serves has shifted irrevocably. In every use of official power, the President is now a king above the law….

Never in the history of our Republic has a President had reason to believe that he would be immune from criminal prosecution if he used the trappings of his office to violate the criminal law. Moving forward, however, all former Presidents will be cloaked in such immunity. If the occupant of that office misuses official power for personal gain, the criminal law that the rest of us must abide will not provide a backstop. With fear for our democracy, I dissent.

OVERALL ASSESSMENT – VERY GOOD DAY FOR TRUMP

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Conservative Beaner | July 1, 2024 at 10:40 am

Obama, Biden and Trump breath a collective sigh of relief.


 
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CommoChief | July 1, 2024 at 10:44 am

Good decision. No POTUS should be hamstrung over official acts but no one should confuse the immunity enjoyed by the Office of President with a blanket immunity extending to actions not part of the job of President.


     
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    mailman in reply to CommoChief. | July 1, 2024 at 10:57 am

    Democrats showed us why blanket immunity is so important. They have politicised EVERYTHING and because of this blanket immunity should have been granted because there is no end to Democrats and their desire for absolute power.

    In a sane world blanket immunity shouldn’t be a thing BUT we dont live in a sane world. We live in a world inhabited by Democrats and they have shown us what they will do to hang on to power.


       
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      CommoChief in reply to mailman. | July 1, 2024 at 11:57 am

      Your proposed permanent ‘get of jail free card’ even post Presidential term, which has NEVER been the case, would also equally apply to our Cray Cray political opposition. No thanks.


         
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        Jazzizhep in reply to CommoChief. | July 1, 2024 at 12:32 pm

        So many people think questions around presidential immunity is a binary choice. They seem to think the president either has immunity or he doesn’t. I hope these people are writing in shorthand and know it is much more complicated. Let’ just assume, for the sake of my sanity, the guy to whom you responded knows a president shouldn’t be able to do whatever he wants with no repercussions. Let’s also assume the people who think a president should have zero immunity for official acts know what they are truly saying. I have far less confidence the latter is true.


     
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    MarkS in reply to CommoChief. | July 1, 2024 at 11:21 am

    The Constitution has already decided this issue and SCOTUS just took it upon itself to amend the Constitution. Considering that not prosecuting a president while in office is not in the Constitution or statute, but only a policy of the DOJ, this opens any president to prosecution by any prosecutor not only in the country but, in the world,..what is to prevent a country with an extradition treaty from demanding a US president be extradited elsewhere for trial if some judge, in say Germany determines that something a president does is not official?


       
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      Jazzizhep in reply to MarkS. | July 1, 2024 at 11:41 am

      You quoted the Constitution in another post. It literally says you have to get a conviction of an impeachment and then file a criminal indictment. You posed it. Too bad you don’t understand what you post. It would be a great help to you if you did.

      Stop and think for just one second of the alternative. All it takes is a second. What would happen if any DA in any county could file criminal charges against a president for official acts. How about Texas AG filing charges against Biden for negligent homicide for his pullout of Afghanistan killing 13 soldiers (not that Biden remembers)?

      Now, as we have seen over the past few years Dems actually love that idea. I doubt they would love it if Swalwell was prosecuted for being a traitor for his Chinese spy friend. Republicans, at least in lawfare, have maintained a respect for freedom and democracy.


         
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        MarkS in reply to Jazzizhep. | July 1, 2024 at 12:39 pm

        I agree that it is a bad idea, but that’s apparently what Roberts just decided, what he did is to leave a president open to just the acts of a prosecutor that you mentioned, and there are more, in fact a prosecutor using Roberts logic could indict a president onmost anything


       
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      CommoChief in reply to MarkS. | July 1, 2024 at 11:54 am

      Are you arguing that a person who while President could commit an overtly criminal act and be forever immune simply by virtue of having held the office of President?


         
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        Jazzizhep in reply to CommoChief. | July 1, 2024 at 12:01 pm

        He is saying the opposite. He wants Presidents to be convicted of crimes even if it is a part of his official duty without an impeachment first. I think he wants any DA in any county to be able to charge the president with whatever the DA thinks is a crime. See Bragg except make it official acts as President. My example earlier was Texas AG Paxton filing criminal charges against Biden for negligent homicide of the Texas soldier killed in the pullout of Afghanistan. While I think dems would be happy with such power, as long at it is the right person, Republicans have not yet gone down that rabbit hole.


         
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        MarkS in reply to CommoChief. | July 1, 2024 at 12:41 pm

        As prescribed by the Constitution, unless and until an impeachment removal occurs, yes.
        As we’ve seen with Trump, any prosecutor can decide that a legal act is now somehow a criminal act and the only protection a president has is afforded by Congress


           
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          CommoChief in reply to MarkS. | July 1, 2024 at 1:03 pm

          So to be very. clear then…you are arguing that absent an impeachment in HoR and a successful vote in the Senate to remove a President then no criminal charges could be filed against a FORMER President post Presidency for overtly criminal actions he committed in office? So if a POTUS shot/murdered their Spouse they couldn’t EVER be criminally charged/prosecuted without an impeachment? Nah, man. They can’t be prosecuted IN their term but post Presidency however it happened; resignation, removal, expiration of term they have always been subject to prosecution for overtly criminal acts.

          Do you extend that same immunity argument revolving around impeachment and removal (which is a political act) to Appointees? So if a successful impeachment in the HoR and a successful vote in the Senate to remove an official didn’t occur they couldn’t be prosecuted either?

          If not why not if impeachment and removal by the Congress is such the impediment to prosecution you claim? Surely you wouldn’t argue that we should ignore that for an appointed official and thus in effect allow a local DA to deny the POTUS the ability to be served by whomever he can get through a Senate confirmation?


 
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OwenKellogg-Engineer | July 1, 2024 at 10:46 am

It’s good to see that there are still some adults in the room.


     
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    Paula in reply to OwenKellogg-Engineer. | July 1, 2024 at 11:08 am

    Six adults and three children.


       
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      MarkS in reply to Paula. | July 1, 2024 at 11:13 am

      I disagree, six toddlers,…..now any corrupt partisan hack federal judge, or maybe even a County judge, gets to determine what are official acts of any president,..and prosecute any act by any president that they decide is ‘unofficial’ .a scary situation


         
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        Paula in reply to MarkS. | July 1, 2024 at 11:23 am

        It will take two or three appeals to the Supreme Court for prosecutions of “unofficial acts” in order to get some rulings for specific acts to determine the fall out from this..


         
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        tlcomm2 in reply to MarkS. | July 1, 2024 at 11:51 am

        As opposed to any county judge stopping our govt from functioning in a time of war by charging POTUS with murder? Your argument is childish


         
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        Sanddog in reply to MarkS. | July 1, 2024 at 1:11 pm

        There is nothing, no law, no statute, no constitution that will prevent the left from playing the lawfare game. They Do Not Care About The Rule of Law.


 
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thad_the_man | July 1, 2024 at 10:48 am

Unless they are very specific as to what a official acts is, this will go up again when it is decided whether or not something is an official act.


     
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    thad_the_man in reply to thad_the_man. | July 1, 2024 at 10:57 am

    Nevermind they were specific. So it’s “fake electors”.


       
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      thad_the_man in reply to thad_the_man. | July 1, 2024 at 11:00 am

      Let me clarify, he can;t be tried for what he said, but he can be tried for the fake electors,


         
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        MarkS in reply to thad_the_man. | July 1, 2024 at 11:05 am

        but alternate electors are not fake, they’re the real deal


           
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          thad_the_man in reply to MarkS. | July 1, 2024 at 11:17 am

          I should have put quotes about “fake electors”. They can’t try him for his speech and DOJ iinteraactions, but whether or not they are “fake electors” can be tried.


         
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        Ironclaw in reply to thad_the_man. | July 1, 2024 at 11:10 am

        That was not without precedent, it certainly wasn’t the first time it happened.


         
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        Jazzizhep in reply to thad_the_man. | July 1, 2024 at 11:50 am

        You keep using the pejorative “fake electors.” Why? Alternate electors have been used before. In Hawaii in 1960 Kennedy used alternate electors and submitted them pending a recount. Nobody screamed bloody murder. Trump wanted alternate electors pending court reviews that didn’t happen. Stop falling prey to the propaganda.


           
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          thad_the_man in reply to Jazzizhep. | July 1, 2024 at 11:58 am

          Oh good lord. I said fake electors because someone describing the position used fake electors. Get real. The court essentially said that Chutkan has to determine whether his actions wih respect to certification is an “official act”.


         
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        DaveGinOly in reply to thad_the_man. | July 1, 2024 at 1:02 pm

        They can try him for “fake electors” but it won’t work because there were no “fake electors,” only “alternative electors,” the existence of which has historic precedence and has never been considered a crime.

Sad, in a way, because Trump is actually innocent while Biden is actually guilty when it comes to following the law.


 
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Close The Fed | July 1, 2024 at 10:56 am

I expect arguments to be made that Trump’s involvement trying to find out what happened to the various states’ votes in 2020 was “personal” and not “official,” and/or not “core.”

But of course they were/are. We taxpayers pay for all manner of federal departments to monitor voting, etc., and the president is responsible for all of them. In addition, if an election of a federal officer such as himself is questionable, it is fit and proper for him to be questioning, investigating and working to have such an election thoroughly examined and to encourage others to thoroughly examine it.

Let’s not engage in Kantian fake divisions of responsibilities.


     
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    MarkS in reply to Close The Fed. | July 1, 2024 at 11:05 am

    that’s what’s wrong with this opinion, it lets a corrupt Judge Chutkan be the sole decider on what are official acts


       
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      Paula in reply to MarkS. | July 1, 2024 at 11:09 am

      That can be appealed again.


         
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        MarkS in reply to Paula. | July 1, 2024 at 11:24 am

        How much of one’s live and money are to be spent on this crap? reappealing takes time and money and when related to a president it effects the entire country


           
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          Jazzizhep in reply to MarkS. | July 1, 2024 at 11:54 am

          You prefer one judge decide and be done with it, huh? Didn’t you say in another post “…it lets a corrupt Judge Chutkan be the sole decider on what are official acts.” Make up your mind would ya! You either hate appeals or you hate a single judge deciding. You can’t have both. Well you can if you think the law shouldn’t be consistent.


       
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      thad_the_man in reply to MarkS. | July 1, 2024 at 11:13 am

      Actually read my pst they lay down some guidelines.


         
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        MarkS in reply to thad_the_man. | July 1, 2024 at 11:28 am

        OK, I’m not a lawyer so explain just how ‘guidelines’ actually limit a judge with an agenda?


           
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          thad_the_man in reply to MarkS. | July 1, 2024 at 12:04 pm

          I haven’t read it it thoroughly yet. From the summaries I heard, the charges that are gone are charges for his speech and instructions to DOJ, but actions regarding certifications ( aka “fake electoors”) go back to Chutkan to determine if they are “official acts”. Expects whether she does to be appealed.


 
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TargaGTS | July 1, 2024 at 11:00 am

“Because the President cannot be prosecuted for conduct within his exclusive constitutional authority, Trump is absolutely immune from prosecution for the alleged conduct involving his discussions with Justice Department officials.”

The Court just blew up almost all of Smith’s case. Even though some of FNC are saying this likely won’t cover the ‘fake electors’ element of the case, I’m not so sure. If immunity covers Trump’s discussions with Justice Department officials, why wouldn’t it cover discussions with members of Congress or state employees?


 
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Close The Fed | July 1, 2024 at 11:02 am

I also want to address what Roberts wrote: “This case poses a question of lasting significance: When may a former President be prosecuted for official acts taken during his Presidency? Our Nation has never before needed an answer.”

We have never needed an answer before, because we were all embued with the same culture. Now with foreigners running our federal government as well as communists, we need an answer.

We did not even need an answer after The War Between the States. Jefferson Davis and Alexander Stephens were not tried for any crime after that war, and many Confederates returned to Congress after the war. As I recall, the only men tried, convicted, and hung were those that ran Andersonville prison.

Another thing we have lost: an understanding that political disagreements, even violent ones, are POLITICAL, not crimes.


     
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    Virginia42 in reply to Close The Fed. | July 1, 2024 at 11:12 am

    Only Major Wirz was hanged–and it was a bit of a retribution verdict given how bad other camps (including Federal ones) were.


     
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    TargaGTS in reply to Close The Fed. | July 1, 2024 at 11:22 am

    To expand on what you’ve said, not only did the Union prosecute almost no one after the Civil War, the adults who were running the country would go out of their way to heal the wounds – actual and cultural – of the Civil War. They understood that comity and restraint were the only way forward if the Republic were going to endure. One way they did this was by federally protecting confederate cemeteries and monuments and decades later, even naming vitally important military bases after CONFEDERATE soldiers and officers.

    I don’t think it’s a coincidence that shortly after the progressive left blew up a century of restraint they indicted a former president for the first time in US history,.


 
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buck61 | July 1, 2024 at 11:09 am

In his concurrence, Thomas took a direct shot at Garland and his appointment of Jack Smith, from Thomas

In this case, the Attorney General purported to appoint a pri-
vate citizen as Special Counsel to prosecute a former Presi-
dent on behalf of the United States. But, I am not sure that
any office for the Special Counsel has been “established by
Law,” as the Constitution requires.


 
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MarkS | July 1, 2024 at 11:09 am

The Constitution is clear, SCOTUS just amended the Constitution
“Judgment in Cases of Impeachment shall not extend further than to removal from Office, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any Office of honor, Trust or Profit under the United States: but the Party convicted shall nevertheless be liable and subject to Indictment, Trial, Judgment and Punishment, according to Law.”


     
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    Close The Fed in reply to MarkS. | July 1, 2024 at 11:17 am

    Well, they tried convicting him from impeachment twice, and neither succeeded.


     
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    diver64 in reply to MarkS. | July 1, 2024 at 11:29 am

    What? Didn’t you read the opinion? Your comment is not true.


     
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    Jazzizhep in reply to MarkS. | July 1, 2024 at 11:32 am

    Uhhh, no. I am guessing you do not know what “…but the Party convicted…” means. Hint: the “conviction” you mentioned is a conviction in the Senate after an impeachment. Why would a criminal indictment be necessary if he has already been convicted? Pro tip. Actually read The Constitution and UNDERSTAND the terms before trying to claim SCOTUS rewrote it. A constitutional scholar you are not.


       
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      MarkS in reply to Jazzizhep. | July 1, 2024 at 12:29 pm

      Allow me to enlighten you,….impeachment punishment is limited to removal from office and denial of future office,..and as such, some legal scholars, not this one, have opined that impeachment is a civil act, and that is why the following phrase about the conviction making the one removed eligible for criminal prosecution,..in short, the Founders gave Congress, not the Courts, the ability to remove presidential immunity and when a president may be subject to Indictment, trial, judgment and punishment, according to law. To sum it all up for you, the Founders, obviously decided that a Senate conviction is not a criminal conviction because they knew about the double jeopardy clause that the put in the 5th Amendment

This will not stop the lawfare against Trump. The process is the punishment.

    I can’t wait for July 11 when Judge Merchan gives Trump some jail time, IMO in an attempt to interfere with his campaign and the election – given that all the indictments and trial have failed to do so far.


       
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      Jazzizhep in reply to jb4. | July 1, 2024 at 12:12 pm

      I hope so as well. It will force SCOTUS to take up the case immediately. And anybody with an ounce of sense knows this conviction will not stand. It would rob Biden of his only campaign strategy, “convicted felon.” Which is one of the reason why Merchan will not do it


 
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diver64 | July 1, 2024 at 11:26 am

I don’t see how either Fani or Smith move forward.
It’s too bad that SCOTUS even had to hear this at all but the corrupt Judges, Prosecutors and Dems have become so blinded by TDS they forced it.


 
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destroycommunism | July 1, 2024 at 11:32 am

fjb and the boxes of classified info HE ILLEGAL TOOK WHEN HE HAD NO AUTHORITY TO DO SO

GET HIM!!!!!


 
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TargaGTS | July 1, 2024 at 12:09 pm

It’s been a bad, no good week for Democrats. Probably their worst week since Appomattox.

Sotomayor: “Orders the Navy’s Seal Team 6 to assassinate a political rival? Immune. ”
Has she never heard of Impeachment? However, with this specific example, I am not sure that the parties responsible were ever brought to justice in the assassination of JFK.


 
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catscradle | July 1, 2024 at 12:12 pm

Lies and immunity: Remembering Congressman Murtha

Murtha outright lied and stated that Marine Lance Cpl. Justin Sharratt “killed innocent civilians in cold blood”

3rd Circuit Voids Marine’s Suit Over Murtha’s Remarks on Iraq Incident

https://archive.is/YSFe2#selection-3117.0-3117.70

On February 8, 2010, God had sorted it out and turned Murtha to dust.

So, how far will the current President try to push the boundaries? While I doubt Biden will go full “Seal Team Six”, in order to stay in power he could at least do as much, if not potentially more than Trump did.

Interesting times, indeed.


 
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MarkS | July 1, 2024 at 12:50 pm

OK, now riddle me this: How about a president commits a criminal unofficial act while performing an official one?
https://rumble.com/vb8hhh-joe-biden-pinches-girls-nipple.html


 
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Flatworm | July 1, 2024 at 1:01 pm

Although I figured the Court would find some form of immunity for official acts squarely within the Constitutional scope of the President’s discretion, and they would be correct to do so, I think they went too far. In particular, the blanket prohibition on considering the President’s motives struck me as far too blunt and broad. I would also have adopted the DC circuit’s framework distinguishing discretionary duties from ministerial duties.

Censure AOC and Biden, among others.


 
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Ghostrider | July 1, 2024 at 1:12 pm

The term “desperate” comes from the Latin word “desperatus,” which means to be deprived of hope.

The Democrats visibly have a feeling of helplessness and loss of control. They are in a state of mind where they are willing to do anything to escape their current, difficult situations post-debate and post-SCOTUS.

Desperate people do desperate things. Desperation often distorts a person’s vision. The more desperate the democrats are, the more mistakes they will make.

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