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How Does It End For Biden? (Reader Poll)

How Does It End For Biden? (Reader Poll)

You know what happened. You saw it. We all saw it. There are feeble efforts, once again, to convince you that you didn’t see what you saw, but Democrats know they have a problem.

You know what happened. You saw it. We all saw it. There are feeble efforts, once again, to convince you that you didn’t see what you saw, or to portray Joe Biden as “the comback kid” who got knocked down at the debate but is back on his feet.

Anything is possible, but the voices within the Democrat and media establishment calling on him to withdraw are just too loud. But Joe has an ego problem and a wife problem. There is no way he wants to go out this way.

What do you think the end will be for Biden?

I’ve come up with these alternatives (in no particular order):

  • Withdraws From Race Prior to Convention
  • Stays in Race Through Convention and Is Nominated
  • Stays In Race Through Convention But Is Not Nominated
  • Resigns Presidency Prior Convention
  • Removed From Office Under 25th Amendment

I have not included things that are not political, such as an unexpected catastrophic health event.

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only because the house GOP doesn’t have the stones to use the ART. 25
they are the jr. partner in the uni party and if Hakeem Jeffries doesn’t give permission for the GOP to be the bad guy it dont happen.
they may even let it go thru and lose the vote peel a couple of GOP
votes off just to make the GOP look like dirt bags.

    What? The GOP can’t invoke the 25th, nor does it have anything to do with the process. I don’t understand your point.

      thad_the_man in reply to Fuzzy Slippers. | June 29, 2024 at 9:36 pm

      “or of such other body as Congress may by law provide,” which could possibly include Congress itsef. Back to the courts.

        diver64 in reply to thad_the_man. | June 30, 2024 at 1:48 am

        Congress could, I suppose, do that but you are aware of how a Law is passed, right?
        As it stands right now only Biden’s Cabinet could force him out. The 25th does say “Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments…” but if Kamala tried a palace coup no one in the Dems would back her and she would never be elected to office again. All the executive branch officers owe their jobs to Biden so I doubt that will happen either. The Office of President is the ultimate fail upward job.

          The Gentle Grizzly in reply to diver64. | June 30, 2024 at 6:10 am

          Whoever makes up the decision makers, their decision will not be based on the needs and good of the nation. It will be what benefits the party.

          Eagle1 in reply to diver64. | June 30, 2024 at 10:29 pm

          All of a sudden Pelosi’s efforts to consider and pass a law establishing a process for Congress to use the 25th look like a good idea.

          I don’t believe I said that.

        DaveGinOly in reply to thad_the_man. | June 30, 2024 at 2:22 am

        The amendment says:

        “Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide…”

        It must be done by the VP and either the “principal officers,” or by the VP and a body designated by Congress. It’s clear that 1.) the VP must be part of it; 2.) Congress’ participation is not required; and 3.) Congress can’t act alone. The “of either” and “or of other such” language demands this interpretation. That is, the interchangeable parts are the “principle officers of the executive departments” and a congressional “body” provided by law, while the VP’s participation is definitively required. Otherwise, the amendment would have read:

        “Whenever the Vice President and a majority of the principal officers of the executive departments, or whenever the majority of another body as Congress may by law provide…”

          Louis K. Bonham in reply to DaveGinOly. | June 30, 2024 at 12:29 pm

          25A is a red herring. It was designed for situations where a president is incapacitated and can’t voluntarily stand down.

          Look at how it would work here if Biden refuses to go. If Kamala starts the 25A process, Biden will know about it. He can then fire all the cabinet secretaries that aren’t solid loyalists, and appoint as acting secretaries flunkies who won’t vote to remove him.

          But let’s say Kamala managed to keep things quiet long enough to get a cabinet vote to push him out. Biden then sends Congress his notice that “I’m not incapacitated.” Unless 2/3rds of BOTH houses vote to remove him within 21 days, he’s back in charge.

          And when was the last time Congress ever did anything really important within 21 days, by a 2/3’d majority in both houses?

          I say again: 25A is a red herring. Not gonna happen.

          thad_the_man in reply to DaveGinOly. | June 30, 2024 at 3:16 pm

          It can be read either way. That’s the point. We had three states try to remove Trump from the ballot for insurrections. Welcome to 2024, and if it does happen ,,, well bring on the courts.

          As for Louis K Bonham, any not Biden sends in the state he is in, will be met with scepticism as to whether he wrote it. Interesting times indead.

      MattMusson in reply to Fuzzy Slippers. | June 29, 2024 at 10:00 pm

      In 3 swing states, Biden will be on the ballot unless he dies or is removed with the 25th Amendment.

        TargaGTS in reply to MattMusson. | June 29, 2024 at 10:24 pm

        That is not true. I know Heritage tweeted something similar over the last couple days. It’s surprising they got it wrong. I think the confusion comes from not reading the state rules closely enough. Some states have separate deadlines for down-ballot races (non-presidential races) and/or have deadlines for presidential candidates who ARE NOT ‘major party candidates.’.

        The only state where there was going to be an issue with the historically late DNC convention (in the modern era) this year was Ohio. Ohio (I believe) remedied that deadline with a special session. But, the DNC was still going to meet virtually to nominate Biden for that state. The rest of the states have rules that acquiesce to the major-party nominating conventions. So, there is no ‘deadline’ until after the major parties nominating conventions, which of course haven’t happened yet.

        Ballotpedia has a lengthy section dedicated to every state’s general election requirements for gaining access to the presidential ballot.

          diver64 in reply to TargaGTS. | June 30, 2024 at 2:01 am

          Actually, it’s too late to change the ballot in NV. Write in candidates are not allowed due to AB126 signed in 2021 by Gov Sisolak. Biden could drop out if he wants but the only way someone could replace him would be to run as an Independent, get 1% of the total voters from the last Congressional election (about 10,000) to sign a petition then have those signatures verified and have it all done by July 5. Pretty much impossible at this point.

          TargaGTS in reply to TargaGTS. | June 30, 2024 at 7:48 am

          @diver64
          The law you’re referring to…

          https://www.leg.state.nv.us/App/NELIS/REL/81st2021/Bill/7448/Text

          …is the law that changed the caucus system in NV to a primary system. In that law, there was language included about INDEPENDENT candidates and how they qualify for the ballot. Biden isn’t an independent candidate. He’s a major party candidate. Here’s how ballotpedia describes it: The names of candidates for major and qualified minor parties can be placed on the general ballot. A party must submit a list of its candidates, including nominees for presidential electors, to the secretary of state. A minor party must file a list of presidential electors with the secretary of state no later than the last Tuesday in August. The relevant statutes do not appear to specify a similar deadline for major parties.

          The National Association of Secretaries of State has a 2024 guide on ballot access.

          https://www.nass.org/sites/default/files/reports/summary-ballot-access-laws-president-april-2024.pdf

          This is how they describe the CURRENT law in NV regarding ‘Major Party or Minor Party Candidates.’ There is no deadline for ‘Major Party Candidates,’ only Minor Party Candidates.

          A presidential candidate nominated by a qualified major or minor political party may be placed on the general election ballot. Each major and minor party must certify the names of the presidential electors to the secretary of state. A minor party must certify to the secretary of state no later than the first Tuesday in September the names of the candidates for president and vice-president.

          (Nev. Rev. Stat. §§ 293.128, 293.270, 293.1715, 293.1725, 298.020, 298.109)

          It took me 5-minutes to research this. That was, apparently, 5-minutes that the Intern at Heritage Foundation didn’t take. As I said, the only state where there is/was any convention date/ballot access date conflicts is Ohio.

          The_Mew_Cat in reply to TargaGTS. | July 1, 2024 at 2:35 pm

          Actually it doesn’t matter which name is on the ballot for a major party. You don’t vote for the candidate. You vote for the party’s slate of Electors, who are already chosen. I know, as I participated in the 8th district GOP convention that selected an Elector for Virginia. The party electors will vote for whomever is their official party nominee.

      Frezz in the hizzy in reply to Fuzzy Slippers. | June 30, 2024 at 2:11 am

      It’s interesting how Van Jones and all the rest haven’t seemed to express the slightest concern about Bobo being within arms length of the nuclear codes etc. To them, it’s only about the political angle. This is a dire moment and bipartisan leadership should be pressing immediate removal.

      fast182 in reply to Fuzzy Slippers. | July 1, 2024 at 10:06 am

      I agree. Jill will not let him drop out. And no one can force the issue unless he dies or is truly incapacitated. The donors have been lying to themselves for a long time, and after a period of complaining, they will resume lying to themselves and continue to donate to “stop Trump”.

      And they have no other good options. They selected Joe and Kamala specifically because both were dumb and controllable, so, well, here we are.

    Martin in reply to jqusnr. | June 29, 2024 at 10:19 pm

    Why should the Republicans rescue the Democrats?

    Amaroneville in reply to jqusnr. | June 30, 2024 at 12:14 am

    Biden will stay in the race, he will get the nomination, he will once again hide in his basement, and he will get creamed in the election.

      amwick in reply to Amaroneville. | June 30, 2024 at 8:46 am

      Don’t forget the criminal alien vote.. I think they are counting on that to push the election..Forget eligibility, forget legality.. none of that matters any more. An illegal vote cancels a legit vote, once that happens, it will be too late to sort out.

        artsymarcy1 in reply to amwick. | July 1, 2024 at 12:06 pm

        My thoughts exactly. But much more concise. Especially in swing states.dems are organizing chaos at polling places using illiegals to overwhelm election judges, machines, and translators for the illiterate illegals. I ruminate a lot.

        mrtomsr in reply to amwick. | July 3, 2024 at 9:36 am

        This is something I have been wondering about; this company, Omega4America has fractal technology that seems pretty powerful. Their website lists a bunch of States they are working with, but no major politician has hooked up with them. It would seem to me that if they can effectively root out 70% of voter fraud prior to the vote by eliminating fraudulent addresses, I would think every political machine that wants free and fair elections would be jumping onboard. Yet none are. Even ones that are pushing the voter fraud angle have not signed on.

        Is this because it sounds good but is a scam to make money, or are all politicians in need of these phantom votes to stay elected?
        It makes me wonder if all of the politicians and their organizations are dirty, maybe not crime family dirty, for not wanting honest elections. Or maybe their product is just too expensive. I just don’t know.

      You know, if the Democrats force Biden to quit, they’d have to give the nomination to Harris because she got the same primary votes as Biden.

      To give it to anyone else would be the end of democracy.

    angrywebmaster in reply to jqusnr. | June 30, 2024 at 5:49 am

    Someone in Congress is already working on a bill. It might pass the house but won’t pass the senate because Democrats. The idea is get everyone on record.

    The next question is, What will president Trump do to this administration? Obviously High Crimes were committed to cover for Biden’s mental incapacity.

      While I agree with the sentiment for responsibility, exactly what statute did people violate by exaggerating his congative ability?

      In terms of accountability there are plenty more serious things to go after.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair | June 29, 2024 at 9:17 pm

How Does It End For Biden? (Reader Poll)

I surprised cry of “Oops!!” and then falling down a staircase, ending up the fetal position on the ground, drowning in a pool of his own feces clutching a pile of hundred dollar bills and a few loose diamonds.

Left out the possibility that Joe withdraws after the convention, but before the election.

thad_the_man | June 29, 2024 at 9:40 pm

He will fall under the Clinton Curse.

    The Gentle Grizzly in reply to thad_the_man. | June 30, 2024 at 12:45 pm

    You mean suicide with two bullets to the brain, and the gun found adjacent the wrong hand? Or, the wonderful description by Mark Twain regarding the death of Buck Fanshaw.

The path to Biden’s departure is through his wife. Democrat leaders desiring a new candidate must make it uncomfortable for her to remain First Lady.

    alaskabob in reply to Leslie Eastman. | June 29, 2024 at 11:31 pm

    Or very comfortably with megabucks more than the Biden Crime Family could make.

    Harris is be the caretaker prez… sorry Hillary …. Harris will be the FIRST woman prez but only up until the convention. That gives the Dems added points …. also POC of sorts too. Biden will be idolized and canonized as an added side show (“he give his all for all of us”). It’s been planned for some time….. when they went the brain drug route they had to figure an exit strategy.

      DaveGinOly in reply to alaskabob. | June 30, 2024 at 2:29 am

      If Joe is removed via the 25th Amendment, Harris becomes “Acting President,” not “President.” A close reading of the amendment shows that it doesn’t actually “remove” a president, it suspends him from the office. Technically, Biden would remain president, only suspended from power.

      LeftWingLock in reply to alaskabob. | June 30, 2024 at 8:46 am

      Dr. Jill has enough money (much of it likely illegal) to get thru the rest of her life. IMO, no way she would give up being flotus for even $1 B. She will have to be pushed out of the way thru the 25 A.

    Sanddog in reply to Leslie Eastman. | June 30, 2024 at 12:18 am

    She’s grifting and grasping POS. She’s not going to go willingly and will cry victim if they try and take him down.

    henrybowman in reply to Leslie Eastman. | July 1, 2024 at 4:44 am

    They can always blackmail her with that incident where she was high on cocaine when she performed a phonics adjustment on one of her patients students, and the poor child was rendered illiterate and still is to this day.

Mauiobserver | June 29, 2024 at 9:55 pm

I think it will depend on how the down ticket Democrats are projected to do by the party elites. If they see the Congress continue to be closely divided they may stick with Biden,

If not then the most important criteria for the replacement is that he or she will do as told by the party elites and Obama/Soros cabal running the White House and administrative state.

The Atlanta-Journal Constitution just published an editorial, which will appear in tomorrow morning’s paper, calling on Biden to end his campaign. I suspect there will be more such editorials in the coming days. I think he drops out sooner rather than later, maybe even this coming week. But, it won’t be any later than the day or two after the GOP convention, which I believe ends July 18th.

Harris will almost certainly be his replacement because….money. Fundraising laws make it effectively impossible to use their current warchest for anyone other than Harris. I have no idea who Harris would pick as VP.

    TargaGTS in reply to TargaGTS. | June 29, 2024 at 10:50 pm

    The Chicago Tribune has added itself to the chorus of editorial boards calling for Biden to end his campaign.

    PrincetonAl in reply to TargaGTS. | June 29, 2024 at 11:43 pm

    With too many op-Ed’s coming out, they are going to commit themselves to replacement soon.

    But that is tricky:

    – campaign funds

    – timing for ballot and state rules

    – how to manage the intramural fight on his replacement

    – how to manage “he’s not competent enough to be president for 4 more years but we haven’t been gaslighting you the past few years” that an article 25 move or similar would cause

    Jill can be persuaded (meaning bought off) with enough negative pressure / positive incentive.

    If they think there’s a better path they will make it happen. They have been laying out a voting machine that doesn’t care who is on the ticket …

    Get ready for the greatest dirty tricks switch and campaign ever.

      TargaGTS in reply to PrincetonAl. | June 29, 2024 at 11:53 pm

      They have a lot of problems, for sure. But, so long as Biden drops out before the convention, they’re fine legally (state & party rules, etc). Of course, ‘fine’ ultimately means a brokered convention….in Chicago. It will be a mess. Even if they wanted Harris, there’s no real guarantee she walks away with the nomination because herding Democrats at a brokered convention is like herding racoons on meth.

      AF_Chief_Master_Sgt in reply to PrincetonAl. | June 30, 2024 at 12:39 am

      “Doctor” Jill will be handled easily. Either she cooperates, takes the money, and disappears… or the closet will be opened and her skeletons will come pouring out.

      She may have the dirt on others, but no one can go up against the administrative state with unlimited $$$$ to persecute and prosecute.

      My bet? She also dumps dementia Joe once the gravy train derails.

    LeftWingLock in reply to TargaGTS. | June 30, 2024 at 8:47 am

    Has to be Hillary. As Ammo Girl might say “Gurrrrrrrrrl Power Rulez”.

Dims play dirty. If the powers that be want him out, it will be orchestrated. A ~heart attack~ or massive stroke could be on the horizon.

If Kennedy could be assassinated in broad daylight, all bets are off. Jill can insist all she wants, but she has no idea who or what she’s dealing with.

I think Merchan will handicap Trump at sentencing so that Biden will be able to win the election. The cabal is that evil.

    willow in reply to willow. | June 29, 2024 at 10:21 pm

    Evil in the sense that Biden is so gone that he will not be able to hold up in front of the world, and we are in the danger zone. What I don’t get is that they are in danger as well. They think our enemies love them?

    clintack in reply to willow. | June 30, 2024 at 7:43 am

    Handicap how?

      Subotai Bahadur in reply to clintack. | June 30, 2024 at 6:12 pm

      Given that the Left, including the part designated the Democrat Party, are not even mildly handicapped by any obedience to the laws or the Constitution, I do not rule out a) an actual prison sentence in the New York state correctional system, b) a refusal to allow the usual bond pending appeals . . . . we have seen that recently, c) either a refusal to allow Secret Service protection in that prison, or if they are allowed in for them to take part in the “terribly tragic failure of security” that removes President Trump from the scene.

      At which point I fear that Times will become Interesting nationwide.

      We are operating in the realm of “Lawfare”, and not the “equal rule of Law made with the consent of the governed”.

      Subotai Bahadur

      The_Mew_Cat in reply to clintack. | July 1, 2024 at 2:39 pm

      Merchan will sentence Trump to 20 years at hard labor, to be served in a remote prison in the Adirondacks (a gulag). He will tell the Dept. of Corrections to make him break big rocks into little rocks 16h per day with a 40 pound sledge. Trump will probably have a heart attack before some appeals court finally hears a motion to stay the sentence.

Hillary might make an offer he can’t refuse.

Robert Kennedy says he would be willing to step in and take the Democratic nomination

Such a “good” guy

How does it end for Biden?

With a whimper.

I think they’re going to fake an “unexpected catastrophic health event.”

Eastwood Ravine | June 29, 2024 at 11:18 pm

I think the Dems end up gaslighting their party; they’ll nominate him and pour money into down ticket races. They’re not going to risk the chaos at the DNC in Chicago. Last thing they want is the radical elementary of the party at odds with each other in prime time.

It will be forgotten by Trumps’s sentencing hearing. But that debate was a black swan event. Who knows.

It is all about Lady Macbeth – her ambition far exceeds all considerations of national security or health concern about her husband.

Is it true that if he drops out after he gets the nomination apparently the DNC can choose his successor. But that would mean waiting until August?

But if he drops out before then there will be a “free-for-all” at the convention—- and the delegates might actually choose a candidate that the DNC doesn’t want?

Of course, the point is moot because Jill will only leave her First Lady position in a box.

How does it end?
Jill: Well shit. That didn’t go as planned.

If they replace him before the convention, its an admission he is unfit for office. It would trigger a constitutional crisis and they will be forced to remove him, making Harris President. He simply can’t continue to be President if he’s removed from the ticket, because he’s being removed because he cant function. I just don’t see Jill Biden or the elite Dems triggering a Con crisis. They are too deep in denial, and a Con crisis would blow them up. Theoretically, he could resign. But I dont see that either.

    TargaGTS in reply to dwb. | June 30, 2024 at 8:08 am

    ‘They’ aren’t going to replace him before the convention because there isn’t any mechanism in their party rules to replace him before the convention…at the moment. It’s theoretically possible the Rules Committee of the Convention could convene in advance of the convention and change their bylaws. But, the chances of that happening are next to zero if for no other reason than the fact Team Biden could challenge such a rule change in Court, which would be a gigantic mess.

    So, that means the only way to replace Biden is for Biden to withdraw himself prior to the convention, OR for a critical mass of the DNC ‘Super Delegates’ to defect during the convention. While possible in theory, I just don’t see that happening. I think the only way he’s not on the ballot is if he assumes room tempreture, strokes out or has some other (total) incapacitation or withdraws of his own free will, which I think might be possible.

      henrybowman in reply to TargaGTS. | July 1, 2024 at 4:57 am

      If I were the DNC, I’d just get one of Biden’s body doubles to announce he is discontinuing his campaign.

Democrats have to start the 25th amendment process. Period. And Kamala has to sign on according the verbiage. In effect- a palace coup. Suppose Joe doesn’t want to go? Or Jill doesn’t want him to. Within hours- he sends a letter saying he’s fit for office. THEN- you have your constitutional crisis. Who’s in charge? Who’s taking orders from whom?

To remove him then requires a 2/3 vote by both houses. It would be easier to impeach him for one of his many crimes…

    DaveGinOly in reply to gospace. | June 30, 2024 at 2:44 am

    Correct. Either the agency heads decide or a congressionally-appointed body decides, but in either event the VP must work in concert with whichever is doing the deed. (Although the amendment doesn’t say the VP must initiate the action, just that it has to be one of those two bodies and the VP. It says “Vice President” first because the VP is part of both methods of suspension. I say “suspension” because the president is merely removed from office, and may return, and the VP become “Acting President,” not “President.”)

Frezz in the hizzy | June 30, 2024 at 2:02 am

Obama is the puppet master. I believe he will convince Bobo / make it worth his while to have a medical oopsy before the second debate, giving him a sliver of dignity as he necessarily departs.

    caseoftheblues in reply to Frezz in the hizzy. | June 30, 2024 at 7:07 am

    As the puppet master it’s all for the good from his perspective that Biden is cognitively impaired. There is a reason he came out after the debate supporting Biden and his continuing campaigning

ChrisPeters | June 30, 2024 at 2:22 am

Some are predicting that Biden will drop out of the race, and be replaced by Michelle Obama.

I find that notion to be terrifying.

    guyjones in reply to ChrisPeters. | June 30, 2024 at 7:35 am

    No need to worry, at all, on that score. Michelle is too inured to her servants, her piles of undeserved, filthy lucre, and her tony waterfront beach houses lifestyle, to actually spend time and exert effort in the spotlight running for political office. This twit never worked an honest day in her miserable life (yeah, a transparent do-nothing, nepotism gig in charge of “Diversity” at U. of Chicago hospital system doesn’t count), and, rest assured that she isn’t about to start, now.

      Skip in reply to guyjones. | June 30, 2024 at 8:53 am

      Just asking, And how would that be different than Sundowner spending most of his time in Wilmington?

        Tiki in reply to Skip. | June 30, 2024 at 3:00 pm

        It’s different because mooch never worked for anything in her life, whereas FJB had to at least campaign and win Senate elections 1973-2009.

          henrybowman in reply to Tiki. | July 1, 2024 at 5:01 am

          But that level of effort is no longer necessary. Being a Democrat president today is much less complicated… like an eyebrow threader now being able to get a business license without the required two years of hairdressing/cosmetology instruction.

    The_Mew_Cat in reply to ChrisPeters. | July 1, 2024 at 2:23 pm

    I think he will be replaced by Jill Biden. Why not?

They are stuck between a rock and a hard place.
I have been saying for awhile that Mooch is the answer to their problem.

    McGehee 🇺🇲 FJB in reply to Skip. | June 30, 2024 at 9:38 am

    If they believe that, they still don’t understand the problem.

    Which… duh. Of course they don’t.

RepublicanRJL | June 30, 2024 at 6:23 am

I want to see Biden stay in the race and get 33% of the votes in November.

As Babylon Bee puts it, 33% of viewers thought Biden won the debate proving they are dumber than a bag of hammers.

A repeat performance I’m expecting.

Ban hammers.

    diver64 in reply to RepublicanRJL. | June 30, 2024 at 6:37 am

    This should once and for all drive a stake through the heart of polls. There is no way anyone could have watched that debate and say that Biden won. 33% didn’t watch and said Biden won which is the same percentage that think everything is fine and dandy with Biden the greatest President since FDR

smalltownoklahoman | June 30, 2024 at 7:11 am

Option #6: Passes away before election (because old) and that has a couple fun sub-options. Does it happen before convention or after? Imagine the chaos of after!

    I was wondering what happens constitutionally if this happens. Earlier or later the outcomes are different.

    Oct…. I think they are screwed. Completely.
    July-Aug…. they could scramble.

      The_Mew_Cat in reply to Andy. | July 1, 2024 at 2:26 pm

      What if Biden gets a 269-269 tie, and he dies on Dec 20 after the Electors vote? The House cannot substitute for a dead candidate.

Until January everybody prefers rule by existing committee than rule by Kamala, the committee being saner than Kamala. So the 25th amendment is out. Biden’s status is taken by both sides as “mostly harmless” as a result.

They’ll replace him with another candidate if they feel they can garner the women’s vote. Otherwise it’s a loss to Trump regardless.

    The_Mew_Cat in reply to rhhardin. | July 1, 2024 at 2:27 pm

    Harmless?? What if Russia starts winning on the ground. Will the committee running Biden escalate the war and send in US forces?

I have read that there is a big meeting
of the family at camp David
in regards to the campaign

The handwriting is on the wall. It says: “__________________________________________________________.”

    henrybowman in reply to Paula. | July 1, 2024 at 5:05 am

    There was some mild initial terror when those present heard the voice of God say, “What am I signing here?”

E Howard Hunt | June 30, 2024 at 8:33 am

Here’s how it ends for Joe. St. Peter, at the pearly gates, tells him, “here’s the deal, no lie, you’re full of malarkey, and you’re going straight to hell. Say hello to Nancy for me.”

nordic prince | June 30, 2024 at 9:15 am

“I will not accept if nominated and will not serve if elected.”

McGehee 🇺🇲 FJB | June 30, 2024 at 9:36 am

He and his enablers need to take their medicine. Right off the cliff like Thelma & Louise and that poor 1966 T-Bird.

Many of the comments above seem to focus on Biden. I agree with TGG’s above comment, that the ONLY thing that now matters to Dems is the PARTY. The big donors and Party movers will do whatever arm-twisting is required to either have Biden withdraw prior to nomination or stay in through nomination, and lose to a pre-selected new candidate. Biden simply doesn’t matter that much. Power matters. That way, the Party has the greatest chance to get their candidates elected, and remain in power.

    Andy in reply to Q. | June 30, 2024 at 2:23 pm

    It’s a criminal racket. He’s not stepping down.

    Grace, self awareness and dementia rarely live under the same roof.

    henrybowman in reply to Q. | July 1, 2024 at 5:06 am

    Biden never mattered that much. He’s the patsy.

    The_Mew_Cat in reply to Q. | July 1, 2024 at 2:29 pm

    Retaining an impaired Biden could be the best thing for the Congressional Party. They are outpolling Biden, and most RFK, Stein, and West voters will vote Dem down ballot.

biden will remain the dnc nominee; at the Convention the dnc will replace harris with (more speculation … newsome, pelosi, rice, jarrett, goldman, … ?) a “useful tool” to barry’s oligarchy. …

The dnc will bet that again there are sufficient tactics in place to tally a winning count of ballots recognized. Spring ’25 they’ll invoke the 25th Amendment and remove biden; and the runner-up for the vp slot will be appointed.

Result: barry’s oligarchs remains in charge, and US becomes ostensibly communist, and actually dark as north korea; and there will be “planting fields” for human composting.

I think what is really driving the panic on the left right now is that there is no back bench, period.

For those who think they could slide Newsom into Joe’s place. Do you really think that the side of identity politics will stand for a white man being put in the place of the black female?

Unless they can convince Kamala Harris to drop out in a way that looks like they didn’t force her to drop out, then Harris is the next choice, period.

Trump would shred Harris in a debate, she can barely deliver prepared remarks without cackling like a maniac.

The panic is they know that they lost on Thursday night and they have no backup plan.

    The Gentle Grizzly in reply to Gremlin1974. | June 30, 2024 at 1:14 pm

    Do you really think that the side of identity politics will stand for a white man being put in the place of the black female?

    Yes.

    If they want to remain in power, they will do just that. Some women perceive Newsom as handsom(e), and a white male will pick up more of the union blue collar vote.

      McGehee 🇺🇲 FJB in reply to The Gentle Grizzly. | June 30, 2024 at 2:49 pm

      The thing to remember is, there are two Democratic Parties. The inside-the-Beltway professionals, about whom we’re speculating here, and the rank-and-file young woketards, who will revolt at Yet Another White Male™ heading the ticket.

      Without the woketard base, the Democrats are toast. Upticket, downticket, sideways and with a swordfish.

      henrybowman in reply to The Gentle Grizzly. | July 1, 2024 at 5:09 am

      It’s like begging for an intersectional insurrection. The DNC would immediately create a house divided against itself.

Biden’s wife and child (Hunter) are killed by a “drunk driver” or “terrorist attack,” followed by Joey’s resignation or removal by the 25th Amendment?

destroycommunism | June 30, 2024 at 1:05 pm

love to see this sign at the next dem protest:

abort bidens run

He might have a “stroke” in his sleep , then whoever takes his place will rally the troops to “ win it for Joe”. And no one has to be the bad guy kicking him to the curb

The_Mew_Cat | June 30, 2024 at 8:56 pm

My guess is Biden stays in until one fateful morning he simply doesn’t wake up.

caseoftheblues | June 30, 2024 at 9:46 pm

Jill and Hunter want him to stay in… therefore he will stay in to the bitter end.

Capitalist-Dad | July 1, 2024 at 8:54 am

You missed an option only the Democrat Party has—fascists that they are. If Biden refuses to go quietly (as whomever is Dear Leader behind the scenes wishes) he will suffer some sudden death. The Democrat version of Night of the Long Knives.

The_Mew_Cat | July 1, 2024 at 1:08 pm

Biden staying in is better for Congressional Democrats, who are running way ahead of him in most polls. Plopping a generic Dem into the nomination wouldn’t necessarily do them any good.

Seeing “What do you think the end will be for Biden?”

Immediately followed by an ad for a “ChuckleBall for doggie” (at least on MY computer) seemed just too wonderful of a juxtaposition … but I guess I have a warped sense of humor. It’s the only way to survive this mess though.

    henrybowman in reply to cbt. | July 1, 2024 at 5:22 pm

    I never thought I’d look forward to seeing those diseased toenail fungus ads again.