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TRUMP VERDICT: GUILTY

TRUMP VERDICT: GUILTY

After two days of deliberation.

The jury reached a verdict.

The jury found Trump guilty. Sentencing happens on July 11th.

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Biting fingers

    Tie me kangaroo down sport.

      txvet2 in reply to EBL. | May 30, 2024 at 5:45 pm

      I don’t really agree with the characterization of a kangaroo court. This was a classic Soviet style show trial, where everybody knows the verdict going in.

        CommoChief in reply to txvet2. | May 30, 2024 at 7:05 pm

        Yep. This was almost certainly going to be the result going in and the Judge’s evidentiary rulings along with his bizarre choose your own adventure style Jury instructions for the predicate crime sealed it.

        No crying though b/c this and the other law fare cases directed at Trump to tie him up in court proceedings, attempt to tarnish him and otherwise interfere with and/or diminish his ability to campaign in person was baked into the cake of selecting him as the Nominee. The d/prog made no secret of their intentions towards Trump so no whining and crying about this hurting the ability of the GoP nominee to campaign in person.

        It is absolutely fair to point out these are bush league tactics and blatantly partisan b/c they are but they would still be so even were Trump not the nominee. In choosing DJT as the nominee we also chose to accept the baggage and unique hurdles he would bring to his candidacy. His candidacy doesn’t make these highly partisan prosecutions any more or less worthy than would be if he were not the nominee. FWIW IMO these prosecutions are not worth a bucket of warm spit and I believe they will backfire to a larger degree than many now understand.

          We all knew this is what would happen if we voted for Trump as our nominee, so now we have to live with it.

          Danny in reply to CommoChief. | May 30, 2024 at 8:54 pm

          @ JR

          I was very firmly pro DeSantis I think more so than you and no we did not know that.

          I was routinely attacking Alvin Bragg for indicting Trump for something that wasn’t a crime, claiming a misdemeanor after the statute of limitations past to justify it and not revealing any other crime to justify ignoring statute of limitations.

          I did not think it would reach the jury and it was only when the judge made it clear it was a kangaroo court that it struck me yes it could actually happen here. My last hope was that at least one juror would hold out against jettisoning the justice system. The most corrupt judge on the planet can’t do a dam thing when a juror makes that decision even if it is for evil reasons instead of good ones (see when the jury went in the direction of corruptly letting out the extremely guilty O J Simpson for example)

          This is an extremely dark day for our nation, and it has marked New York in eternal disgrace.

          Subotai Bahadur in reply to CommoChief. | May 30, 2024 at 9:11 pm

          We are entering the end stage. If this ends up with the collectivist totalitarians “winning” what they will call an election, or seizing power by other means; then the Social Contract for our country, including the Constitution, are gone. It will take time, effort, and sadly probably blood to create a new one that will be acceptable to all Americans. If there is still an “America” and “Americans” when it is all over.

          Merriam’s Corner comes in many forms.

          Subotai Bahadur

          Where do you get off saying “our” and “we” when you have sounded like Alvin Bragg?

          CommoChief in reply to CommoChief. | May 30, 2024 at 10:21 pm

          oldschooltwentysix

          ‘sound like Alvin Bragg’… Was it when I described the series of politically motivated prosecutions, including this one, as ‘not worth a bucket of warm spit’ that make you think so? Get out of your feels, stop trying to find ways to split the GoP and man up to the challenge we have in front us to elect DJT.

          Wasn’t directed at you. Why would you think it was? Only one person has parrotted Bragg speak.

          CommoChief in reply to CommoChief. | May 31, 2024 at 6:16 am

          oldschooltwentysix,

          Why? B/C the post was a ‘reply to CommoChief’. To avoid this consider listing who you are addressing when the ‘reply to field’ is auto filling another commenter, just I did in reply to you. That eliminates any potential confusion as to whom you are addressing.

          artichoke in reply to CommoChief. | May 31, 2024 at 7:32 am

          I am amazed at what a nation of followers we are. I don’t think that people in every country are this bad.

          Not a single juror would find a way to insist on reasonable doubt in a way that would stop the unanimous vote? Not a single one? Because this charming fellow Merchan told them not to?

          We worship judges in black robes I guess. Lawyers are required to. That doesn’t explain what happened to the rest of the people on this jury, or several others in well known cases we’ve discussed regarding the recent BLM movement.

          Blame it on the system. It was rather clear that you were not the recipient.

        Danny in reply to txvet2. | May 30, 2024 at 7:31 pm

        100% agree

        BartE in reply to txvet2. | May 31, 2024 at 1:59 pm

        Lol, everyone knows the verdict because the evidence was overwhelming. It was never in doubt because of that not due to soke bias. A lot of excuse making here

          txvet2 in reply to BartE. | June 1, 2024 at 1:12 am

          I’d call you a liar and a fool, but you’re neither. You’re just a leftist shill who’ll post anything your socialist masters tell you to. 50-1 against. Screw you.

      MattMusson in reply to EBL. | May 30, 2024 at 5:48 pm

      One more truck load of bananas for the Republic.

      4fun in reply to EBL. | May 30, 2024 at 7:44 pm

      Time for the House repubs to file impeachment papers on biden for treason. Race it through the House.

        JR in reply to 4fun. | May 30, 2024 at 7:50 pm

        You know, of course, that this won’t go anywhere, because Trump lost the Senate for us because of his antics in Georgia telling Republicans not to vote because the Georgia election was rigged.

          Milhouse in reply to JR. | May 30, 2024 at 9:34 pm

          It wouldn’t go anywhere even if he hadn’t done that. It would need 2/3 in the senate, and there’s no way any Democrat would vote to convict, no matter what.

          4fun in reply to JR. | May 30, 2024 at 9:36 pm

          Not worried about the senate, I want the blemish on the democrats. Make it the start of payback.

          SHAGONTHEFLY in reply to JR. | May 31, 2024 at 9:15 am

          It Won’t Go Anywhere…Due to the Minor Detail of ZERO Criminal Evidence . Sorry

        Danny in reply to 4fun. | May 30, 2024 at 8:56 pm

        A better idea would be to start focusing on illegally obtained antiquities. Hit New York where it hurts in a way easily possible.

        Subotai Bahadur in reply to 4fun. | May 30, 2024 at 9:17 pm

        It is time for conservatives to file every charge that they can against every Democrat politician and official that they can. Lawfare is what they want, give it to them without quarter.

        Subotai Bahadur

          OwenKellogg-Engineer in reply to Subotai Bahadur. | May 30, 2024 at 9:29 pm

          Aye, and never let up.

          Do you honestly believe that there is a prosecutor anywhere that would do that?

          CommoChief in reply to Subotai Bahadur. | May 31, 2024 at 6:23 am

          Agreed. Not just a tit for tat either. Run the same playbook v d/prog officials in every Red County. This is the only way to bring home the idea that using politically motivated prosecutions as a form of electioneering is a very bad idea to the d/prog zealots. Those guys really don’t understand anything other than the exercise of raw power so unfortunately that’s the only way to effectively communicate to them how dangerous a path they have chosen to walk.

    🦘🦘🦘🦘🦘🦘🦘🦘🦘🦘🦘🦘

    JR in reply to Skip. | May 30, 2024 at 7:01 pm

    If only Ron DeSantis was our nominee. If only.

      chrisboltssr in reply to JR. | May 30, 2024 at 7:04 pm

      But he isn’t, douchebag. Concentrate on what’s happening in front of you and stop wishing about things that aren’t.

        The problem is that Independents and women will not vote for a douchebag like Trump. That is why Trump will lose this election, even though I will reluctantly vote for him, as the lesser of two evils

          MarkSmith in reply to JR. | May 30, 2024 at 8:05 pm

          Ow, poor baby. You were not going to vote for meatball either. Trump will lose the election because the dems are better at cheating. I saw the guilty verdict a mile away. They want marshall law to stop the election. You can pretend that everything is on the level but it is not. Riots, pandemic, DIE, EGS, Russian Hoax, lawfare, open boards,……..it is not about the elections. We saw what happened in 2018, 2020, 2022 and 2024. It actually happened in 2016 but they could not stuff enough boxes.

          This was so expected. Let the left and deep state riots begin to tarnish the conservatives. It is their plan.

          Danny in reply to JR. | May 30, 2024 at 9:00 pm

          @ JR

          Nobody was more critical of Trump’s chances than me but the polling has changed dramatically. The more this is about Biden the less popular Biden is.The polling has fortunately proven me wrong. If you have already surrendered why are you still interested?

          @ MarkSmith

          Why are you here if you have surrendered already? There are so many better things you could be reading if you actually think it is all over. If you are just saying you surrendered and don’t actually think it is over enough stop the defeatism if I wanted to hear about how Biden will pull out a win I would turn on MSNBC

          Milhouse in reply to JR. | May 30, 2024 at 9:38 pm

          They want marshall law to stop the election.

          There is no such thing as “marshall law”, or even martial law, so long as the courts remain able to function.

          And having martial law in some or all of the nation wouldn’t be likely to affect the election.

          Finally, even if some unprecedented emergency were to cause the election to be postponed past Jan 20, Biden would still be out at noon on that day. If there were no election at all, and therefore not only no president or vice president elected but also no House and no 1/3 of the senate, then the oldest Republican remaining in the senate would temporarily take over. That would be Chuck Grassley.

          artichoke in reply to JR. | May 31, 2024 at 8:17 am

          I was going to vote for him, I am still going to vote for him. But I think the election is very doubtful now.

          The press will have a field day, over five months to call him “multiple convicted felon”. He will get the Chauvin treatment. Already the left is scaffolding on this result, determined by the designated fact-finders of the jury, to say the 2016 election was illegitimate. What Hillary couldn’t do with Jill Stein’s recounts, this jury might have done now. He’ll be dirtied by the best PR apparatus the world has ever seen, and it was going to be close anyway down to a few swing states. Now they’ll put some red states in play.

          Anywhere people think like Trump did when he said “I believe in law and order” in failing to defend the J6 prisoners, that state probably won’t go for Trump. This could be a landslide for Biden, because of the black-swan result yesterday.

          caseoftheblues in reply to JR. | May 31, 2024 at 10:00 pm

          Well I’m a woman and I would crawl over broken glass to vote for Trump so apparently your statement that women won’t vote for Trump is crap.

      Paddy M in reply to JR. | May 30, 2024 at 7:23 pm

      It’s Powerline, JR. Your fave!

      “What to do now? First, it is now absolutely essential that Trump be elected president. The Democrats cannot be allowed to get away with this effort to turn America into a banana republic.”

      https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2024/05/guilty.php

      ☝️Real quote from link.

        artichoke in reply to Paddy M. | May 31, 2024 at 8:20 am

        Bla bla bla. Of course it’s essential, but does anyone think the left’s energy is spent? It’s like a locomotive, it will only increase. To them it’s essential that Trump be ruined, they are gleefully rubbing their hands.

      DrNo76 in reply to JR. | May 30, 2024 at 8:28 pm

      Stop wetting your pants. “If only”. “Woe is me”. It’s a rigged case. Everyone knows this. Stop your pathetic whining.

        artichoke in reply to DrNo76. | May 31, 2024 at 8:25 am

        It followed all the rules of our world-class justice system. Garbage witnesses, a garbage judge, a garbage case, but somehow they hypnotized 12 jurors to vote unanimously that there was not even reasonable doubt. If it was 4-4-4 as to the “sort of intent”, why did not a single one reject all the theories and say there’s reasonable doubt about that, and that all the other things required to make this story complete aren’t all true beyond reasonable doubt.

        Not a single one of them. In this case, and the case in Brunswick GA where a man was convicted of murder for holding a cell phone camera far away from the action, and no doubt some of the J6 cases are just as bad. But juries are all willing to convict on anything these days.

        Someone said you can indict a ham sandwich, by majority vote on probable cause. Now you can also convict it, by unanimous vote beyond reasonable doubt.

      AF_Chief_Master_Sgt in reply to JR. | May 30, 2024 at 9:40 pm

      Well, he ain’t buttercup.

      If only DeSantis had not jumped the gun and wilted in response to Trump. But that is what happened. So maybe not the best choice.

      Burgham was way more impressive.

      You do not seem very upset about what is obviously wrong.
      .

      steves59 in reply to JR. | May 30, 2024 at 10:06 pm

      Jesus. Pull up your big-girl panties, ya simp.

      Ironclaw in reply to JR. | May 30, 2024 at 10:59 pm

      DeSantis didn’t have what it took.

      BiteYourTongue in reply to JR. | May 31, 2024 at 9:32 am

      DeSantis, put his toe in the water too soon. If he had held back for 2028, He would have had a good shot. He still may come the 2028 election cycle.

      Suburban Farm Guy in reply to JR. | May 31, 2024 at 4:52 pm

      Admitting that NONE of this would be happening if Trump were not the nominee. Do you know what you’re endorsing there? Hint: it’s not American.

    MontanaMilitant in reply to Skip. | May 31, 2024 at 8:13 am

    The most hated thing on American roads this summer? The Empire State license plate. Potato meet tailpipe!

Doesn’t look good. Way too quick.

JohnSmith100 | May 30, 2024 at 5:02 pm

I hope Trump is busy moving as much business as possible out of NY.

Way way too quick to be good

No OJ jurors hereby

Well, it’s not a hung jury and it probably isn’t an acquittal. Guilty of a lesser included offense or did Merchan have his dream come true?

    TargaGTS in reply to Disgusted. | May 30, 2024 at 5:06 pm

    There weren’t any lesser included offenses offered to the jury, as I understand it. Legal commentators weren’t even sure if they could find him guilty of the misdemeanor bookkeeping charges an acquit on the felony…the case and jury instructions were that confusing.

Way too quick. So exactly as expected, the far leftist jury will find him guilty of Campaigning While Orange on all counts.

Doesn’t matter it will get thrown out on appeal.

From here through the election it will be literally impossible to hear Trump’s name in the leftist media without them adding ‘convicted felon’.

This was so laughably predictable.

    WTPuck in reply to Olinser. | May 30, 2024 at 5:18 pm

    We should all be wearing t-shirts saying “Go Gangsta…Vote Trump”

    Paula in reply to Olinser. | May 30, 2024 at 5:45 pm

    Wanna hear a funny joke? Justice is blind.

    artichoke in reply to Olinser. | May 31, 2024 at 8:40 am

    Why will it get thrown out on appeal? That’s not obvious. I don’t think he will win an appeal. When has such a multiple-felon (formally that is now his description) ever been just released or given a new trial by an appeals court?

    Merchan was conflicted, but it takes a hell of a lot to get a case overturned for that.

    His rulings may have been slanted, but there has to be one single ruling so bad as to throw out the whole case. An appeals court will try to avoid that and will be hard to convince.

    The worst part, the assertion that legally he committed these felonies based on the evidence and theories presented, is now cast in concrete and will never again be questioned, unless we can show that one of those disgraceful witnesses lied — but now the burden is reversed, and this time the court may really insist on a reasonable doubt standard. An appeal cannot generally question the jury’s factfinding.

He will wear it like the badge it is

    Paula in reply to gonzotx. | May 30, 2024 at 5:30 pm

    He’s got street cred now.

      artichoke in reply to Paula. | May 31, 2024 at 8:49 am

      I’d love to think so, but he had plenty of street cred before. We can’t vote any harder than we already were. Meanwhile the press has over five months to stick the knives in, to call him a serial felon, to say the 2016 election was stolen, and new bullshit they are very good at dreaming up and insisting on.

      It will become the new propriety to see Trump as a dirty felon.

      None of this is right of course, but I don’t think Trump will be elected. To be clear, I will absolutely vote for him if his name is on the ballot, but I still say he will probably lose. He’ll lose some pink-t0-red states that “believe in law and order” and won’t hold the facts in their mind for five months of badgering and psychological games in the press.

      And if anyone tries to counter Dem election cheating, now they risk being called a co-conspirator with a convicted felon. The dirtying from this verdict will be used skillfully and relentlessly.

      I want Trump to think about this leading into the R convention.

        BartE in reply to artichoke. | May 31, 2024 at 2:05 pm

        Except the fact is he is obviously guilty. And this is the weakest case. Think about that. This was clear cut criminality and the other cases are much stronger. Trump is a criminal, and the next time he is sentenced it will be as a convicted felon

    JR in reply to gonzotx. | May 30, 2024 at 8:02 pm

    Maybe Trump will have another rally advocating that his supporters “stop the steal” of the verdict by storming the courthouse. It didn’t turn out very well for his supporters the last time.at the Capitol. But who knows? Maybe this time it will work.

      MarkSmith in reply to JR. | May 30, 2024 at 8:09 pm

      The fat lady has not sung yet. Maybe it worked the first time, there were over million people there.

      You sound more like a progressive woman every day.

      steves59 in reply to JR. | May 30, 2024 at 10:11 pm

      So you’re all in on political lawfare and the dissolution of the theory of “rule of law and nont men,” I see.
      That will be good to know in the upcoming Spicy Times.

      artichoke in reply to JR. | May 31, 2024 at 8:53 am

      This is a fair point. I have to compliment his base for learning from the treatment on J6. Just about nobody showed up outside the courthouse for this verdict. Trump destroyed the fervor of his base with J6 and what happened shortly after. He may be a better choice in an election, but he’s not the leader of a passionate movement. He ruined that for himself. I wonder if he even realized what he had, what he threw away. Or was it the plan all along?

Unbelievable.

Guilty across the board. Onward to the appeals.

Guilty all 44 counts

Trump is guilty of being a free man in a dictatorship.

What are the odds of 12 people from NYC doing the right thing?

Minus zero

    DaveGinOly in reply to gonzotx. | May 30, 2024 at 5:26 pm

    It would have only taken one person with a spine to stop this charade.

      The Gentle Grizzly in reply to DaveGinOly. | May 30, 2024 at 6:27 pm

      They would be dead within weeks.

        Not if they got the heII out of NYC. And what better excuse is there to do so?

        Subotai Bahadur in reply to The Gentle Grizzly. | May 30, 2024 at 10:42 pm

        And their families.

        Subotai Bahadur

        less then a week … their name and address would be leaked
        and they wud be dead and their family ….

        artichoke in reply to The Gentle Grizzly. | May 31, 2024 at 8:57 am

        In the old days, I think someone would have been willing to take that risk, to make that trade. But jury selection seems to be a real science these days. They’re able to get 12-0 against:
        Trump
        Chauvin
        all 3 Arbery defendants for murder, including a guy who just held a cellphone far away (in Brunswick GA, far from any big city)
        many J6 defendants

        That is our country now. It’s not the system but also the people. Or, the people are no longer worthy of the system.

    alaskabob in reply to gonzotx. | May 30, 2024 at 5:29 pm

    Where is Milhouse to extoll the glories of the rule of law? Time to defend the “rule of law”. All that I mean is that when one’s life is The Law, one has to understand that The Law will not save you or The Republic. This isn’t a game or a mental exercise.

    Welcome to the transition of the republic to the democrat/socialist empire under BHO the First. I’ll take “convicted felon” Donald J Trump over anyone from the Left. I always wondered where the US figured in Revelation…. know I know.

    Who would think that the integrity of the Republic may hinge on what V. Putin does?

    JR in reply to gonzotx. | May 30, 2024 at 8:05 pm

    Trump is a native New Yorker. These are his people. These are his peers. They don’t even believe him.

      MarkSmith in reply to JR. | May 30, 2024 at 8:11 pm

      Hmm, I guess I must be feeding the troll.

      Milhouse in reply to JR. | May 30, 2024 at 9:42 pm

      That makes no sense. Why would they be “his people” just because he happened to be born where they live?

      steves59 in reply to JR. | May 30, 2024 at 10:12 pm

      Does Mom know you’re on her computer?

      artichoke in reply to JR. | May 31, 2024 at 9:02 am

      Worse, he was the biggest builder in NYC in 100 years. He paid all his debts, he built a nice ice skating rink, he gave to charity, he employed people, he only played rough with rough people in business. And this is what he gets.

Democrats and the media will be wanking each other furiously over this for a while 😂 They got the result they needed as Democrats couldn’t run on anything else.

    artichoke in reply to mailman. | May 31, 2024 at 9:03 am

    They will use it skilfully for the next 5 months. They may be able to swing one or two red states with this, as well as swing states. I hope I’m wrong.

P.S. We really are living in a banana republic. Crooked Joe is guilty of compromising classified material and gets a pass. And the DOJ isn’t taking his bribery scandals seriously. But they have time to pursue a trumped up charge against a political opponent. Maybe I’ll be shocked and they’ll acquit–but that seem s quite unlikely to me.

    Lucifer Morningstar in reply to Disgusted. | May 31, 2024 at 10:31 am

    Well, that’s what happens when you actually nominate and get seated an U.S. Attorney General that’s actually on your side and is willing to do what is necessary to protect you from any legal repercussions for your illegal acts & actions. And that’s Merrick Garland to a tee. The slack-jawed lackey willing to protect the boss. Unlike Trump, who couldn’t chose a U.S. Attorney General that would support him to save his life.

    venril in reply to Disgusted. | May 31, 2024 at 1:09 pm

    Never mind the obvious corruption wrt China and Ukraine. He’s dirty as hell, and they have the goods on him. Obvious political blackmail tool. The old USSR used to do this all the time – honeypot girl for the married target then blackmail for control. Different spin on the old game.

Not at all surprising. Now every word out of Biden’s mouth will be: “Donald Trump, a convicted felon”. This won’t be overturned prior to the election and blue states will now say he has to be removed from the ballot so Biden can be installed President.

    gonzotx in reply to Sanddog. | May 30, 2024 at 5:15 pm

    My fear

    DaveGinOly in reply to Sanddog. | May 30, 2024 at 5:28 pm

    In so doing, Biden lend credence to the claim that the trail’s purpose was political. This may sway some “undecideds” against him. These will be true Americans.

    The States can’t keep him from the ballot over this as they couldn’t over the 14th Amendment – the Constitution sets the qualifications for the office, not State laws.

    It will go beyond trying to remove Trump from the ballot in Blue States. The Democrats will sue in all states to have votes for Trump not counted. They will wait until October and maybe until after the Election to do this, finding courts where it will be railroaded through.

    Milhouse in reply to Sanddog. | May 30, 2024 at 9:48 pm

    blue states will now say he has to be removed from the ballot

    On what grounds? They can’t do that, no matter what? Even if he were to plead guilty he would still be on the ballot and could still be elected.

    The Democrats will sue in all states to have votes for Trump not counted.

    Again, on what grounds? They couldn’t do that, even if his guilt were certain and he were in prison.

      Subotai Bahadur in reply to Milhouse. | May 30, 2024 at 10:45 pm

      On what grounds was he convicted? The rule of law is no longer there.

      Subotai Bahadur

        Ironclaw in reply to Subotai Bahadur. | May 30, 2024 at 11:06 pm

        On the grounds that he beat Hitlery Clinton while being Donald Trump

        Milhouse in reply to Subotai Bahadur. | May 31, 2024 at 1:23 am

        He was convicted on the grounds of an actual crime that exists in the legal code. Removing him from the ballot would require similar grounds, and there aren’t any. He’s a natural born citizen, he’s over 35, he’s lived here for 14 years, boom. No other criteria are allowed.

          caseoftheblues in reply to Milhouse. | May 31, 2024 at 6:26 am

          Just shut up Clownhouse…. With that post ANY pretense of you being a lawyer that’s so so into THE LAW… following every sacred comma placement is FOEVER out the window… we all know what an utter sham you are and always have been…

      Ironclaw in reply to Milhouse. | May 30, 2024 at 11:05 pm

      Since when has the law ever meant anything to democrats?

        Milhouse in reply to Ironclaw. | May 31, 2024 at 1:25 am

        Since always. If the law meant nothing to them why did they bother trying Trump? Why didn’t they just arrest him and “convict” him without a trial? The reason is because they couldn’t. They can’t do something outside the law. They can’t remove someone from a ballot without legal grounds, and they haven’t got any. The conviction doesn’t help them.

        Or, put another way, if they could remove him they would have done it before now. Why wait till now? The conviction doesn’t help them, so why wait for it?

          Ironclaw in reply to Milhouse. | May 31, 2024 at 4:09 am

          Oh piss off, since never. Of course they had to have this sham of a trial, but that doesn’t mean they give a shit about the law, or this case would have have been brought in the first place.

          Ironclaw in reply to Milhouse. | May 31, 2024 at 4:10 am

          would have never …

          ThePrimordialOrderedPair in reply to Milhouse. | May 31, 2024 at 4:23 am

          LOL.

          I often wonder if you take yourself seriously. I can’t imagine that you do, since so much of the drivel you spout is laughable on its face.

          The Soviets loved running show trials. Does that mean that “the law” meant anything to Stalin and the commies? In your deluded mind, I guess so. Most people understand simple, direct reality.

          Sheesh.

          caseoftheblues in reply to Milhouse. | May 31, 2024 at 6:18 am

          You’re a leftist idiot…. There was NOTHING in that case that had anything to do with actual law… I’ve heard actual brilliant legal minds speak about it in detail… you are just a troll who googled crap and tries to pretend they know stuff

          kelly_3406 in reply to Milhouse. | May 31, 2024 at 8:21 am

          The fact that no one except the jury knows what underlying crime led to Trump’s conviction violates the 6th Amendment. The jury instructions did not require the jury to unanimously agree on the underlying crime, which violates the principle of unanimous verdict and proof of guilt beyond reasonable doubt.

          The two lawyers demonstrated their rabid, anti-Trump partisanship by not preventing a guilty verdict.

          Stuytown in reply to Milhouse. | May 31, 2024 at 9:29 am

          There were an awful lot of trials during the Cultural Revolution.

          venril in reply to Milhouse. | May 31, 2024 at 1:13 pm

          What Garrette described as a revolution within the form of the Law.

      venril in reply to Milhouse. | May 31, 2024 at 1:11 pm

      After the last Game of Ballots, you know they’ll push this, valid or not. To muddy the water, if for no other reason.

    Obie1 in reply to Sanddog. | May 31, 2024 at 7:58 am

    He won’t even be able to articulate it intelligibly.

    artichoke in reply to Sanddog. | May 31, 2024 at 9:06 am

    Even if it’s overturned on appeal, that will just be procedural. That can be sloughed off by the press. The factfinders, incredibly, have spoken, unanimously, beyond a reasonable doubt. A true black swan outcome, but now legally unassailable.

Official Banana Republic

Well, at least we got that out of the way

We are officially a banana republic. We are FOOKED!

Coup V2.0 is being cemented in place.

Odds that Trump will immediately appeal directly to SCOTUS have just gone stratospheric.

    jb4 in reply to MarkJ. | May 30, 2024 at 5:35 pm

    But can Trump directly appeal to SCOTUS on Sixth Amendment grounds – no one was informed of the specific charge he was supposedly guilty of until after closing arguments and he could not put on the stand desired witnesses, etc? Or does this have to meander through State appeals courts first? If it can go to SCOTUS, it may be both fitting and ironic that the key votes to decide whether to take it will come from Trump appointees.

      MarkS in reply to jb4. | May 30, 2024 at 5:53 pm

      Let’s not be silly! Do you really believe that Roberts, et al, will go anywhere near this?

      jakebizlaw in reply to jb4. | May 30, 2024 at 6:02 pm

      Meander first. Appeal to SCOTUS available only all state court appeals are exhausted. The state courts are bound to apply the Bill of Rights, but SCOTUS can choose to have the final word on constitutional issues. It is not required to hear the appeal, however.

      stephenwinburn in reply to jb4. | May 30, 2024 at 6:28 pm

      First, Sixth, and Fourteenth.

      Camperfixer in reply to jb4. | May 30, 2024 at 7:33 pm

      This was the bouncing Fed…no…state…no…fed…lawfare ball. Levin just laid out how it’s possible SCOTUS can step in and avoid the corrupt NY state garbage designed by loy-yers for loy-yers.

E Howard Hunt | May 30, 2024 at 5:21 pm

The only thing missing was having Hunter as the trial sketch artist.

    gonzotx in reply to E Howard Hunt. | May 30, 2024 at 5:26 pm

    Bravo^^***

      gonzotx in reply to gonzotx. | May 30, 2024 at 5:27 pm

      What can we do realistically to help President Trump

      Send money..yes

      Contact our representatives and get “letters back”- waste of time

      Go to DC and protest- have your bail money ready, really you won’t need any,
      They aren’t going to let you out

        DaveGinOly in reply to gonzotx. | May 30, 2024 at 5:30 pm

        Go to NYC and protest. Then move to Texas and claim asylum.

          MarkS in reply to DaveGinOly. | May 30, 2024 at 5:56 pm

          Go to Merchan’s House and protest,..I’m in, just get me his address!

          artichoke in reply to DaveGinOly. | May 31, 2024 at 9:13 am

          Seriously, be very very careful if you do any of that street protesting. It could be J6 all over again. There was no protection for that even while Trump was president. Voting, of course. But I cannot recommend passionate action on our side. They’ll get you.

          Do I mean give up? Yeah, sort of. Sometimes self preservation is all you can do. Some greater force is at work here.

          I’ll vote for Trump, but I won’t protest for him. He said “I believe in law and order” and indeed there’s no protection for our side if we step out of line regarding law and order, so don’t do it. The jury was wrong, but that doesn’t make Trump more righteous than he is.

        jb4 in reply to gonzotx. | May 30, 2024 at 5:38 pm

        You left out the most important thing to go – GET OUT AND VOTE. An extra 10% turnout by Republicans could matter.

          MarkS in reply to jb4. | May 30, 2024 at 5:55 pm

          the 2020 election has shown that judicial instigated and supported cheating makes that a futile exercise,…yeah I’m talking about you, John Roberts

        JR in reply to gonzotx. | May 30, 2024 at 8:10 pm

        Yes, by all means, send him money, so Trump can use your hard earned money to pay his lawyers who screwed the pooch in this trial that even a first year lawyer out of law school could have won if they weren’t being controlled by Trump. The lawyers did exactly what Trump demanded that they do, and that is why Trump lost.

          Danny in reply to JR. | May 30, 2024 at 8:15 pm

          A team of Clarence Darrow, Cicero, and Lord Blackstone would have lost the case.

          gonzotx in reply to JR. | May 30, 2024 at 9:28 pm

          Shut up joe

          steves59 in reply to JR. | May 30, 2024 at 10:14 pm

          “The lawyers did exactly what Trump demanded that they do, and that is why Trump lost.”

          You really are a f*cking idiot.

          Ironclaw in reply to JR. | May 30, 2024 at 11:10 pm

          Well you got the judge acting as part of the prosecutorial team, no, no lawyer could have won this case

          JohnSmith100 in reply to JR. | May 31, 2024 at 12:16 am

          JR, where the daylight never shines.

          artichoke in reply to JR. | May 31, 2024 at 9:17 am

          Disagree about the lawyers. What could they have done about slanted everything in the trial, most especially jury selection? Identify specific things they did wrong.

    Paula in reply to E Howard Hunt. | May 31, 2024 at 9:41 am

    A lot of the sketches looked like Hunter made them.

Now we will look at the Trump Affair instead of the Dreyfuss Affair

It’s clear, if there was ever any doubt, that this jury was going to vote guilty even before the trial began.

Sentencing set for July 11. Hope Trump’s lawyers file an emergency appeal to appellate division. Trump leaving courthouse and making statement.

    TargaGTS in reply to gonzotx. | May 30, 2024 at 5:32 pm

    I think it’s Quixotic to have any faith in the earnest, fair application of law in the state of New York. There are ZERO rational actors in that state, no calmer heads to be found anywhere. Every member of that state judiciary is a partisan hack. There will be no emergency appeal granted. I don’t even have any confidence this abhorrent conviction will be over-turned on state appeal. I’m afraid that the only relief to be found for Trump will be found in the federal court system, which will be SCOTUS after the NY Supreme Court issues their final opinion…years from now.

      drsamherman in reply to TargaGTS. | May 31, 2024 at 11:24 am

      It pretty much seems that way. When the Democrats held Texas, the same thing could be said of our courts, until the people started voting the trash out into the dumpster, and the legislature separated criminal and civil appeals channels.

      Noo Yawk will never reform its courts on its own. Its court structure seems rife for corruption at all levels, and there is no impetus for any type of oversight from the legislature now that the state is essentially Granolafornia: Eastern Division. What Merchan did was straight out of an early 50s film noir, and while even attorneys on the left were appalled somewhat by it, they did nothing because it was all to target someone they viscerally hated. They let their politics get the best of their professional instincts, which is why Shakespeare’s observations about the legal profession are shared by most common souls in the United States. Trite to say, but there you have it.

    MarkS in reply to gonzotx. | May 30, 2024 at 5:58 pm

    no NY court will save Trump

    jakebizlaw in reply to gonzotx. | May 30, 2024 at 6:08 pm

    The Appellate Division, First Department disgustingly affirmed suspending Giuliani from practice for out-of-court statements (with one ambiguous exception). I have little faith in fair treatement on Trump’s appeal. The NY Court of Appeals reversed Harvey Weinstein’s conviction 4-3 for gross introduction of evidence of other bad acts, similar to what happened here (among many other injustices), so there may be hope.

      Ironclaw in reply to jakebizlaw. | May 31, 2024 at 5:59 am

      Keep in mind that the communists were well aware of Harvey and had no problems with him. He was supposed to be a sacrifice so they could go after Trump for basically the same crap. Small comfort to him, I’m sure, but useful idiots get sacrificed all the time.

        artichoke in reply to Ironclaw. | May 31, 2024 at 9:19 am

        What do the facts of Harvey Weinstein’s case have to do with the facts of Trump’s case? I think they are entirely unrelated.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair | May 30, 2024 at 5:29 pm

The left’s war against America has just gone white hot.

A truly sad day for the nation. Biden has cursed himself for eternity. Karma lies waiting…ready to pounce.

    TargaGTS in reply to Leslie Eastman. | May 30, 2024 at 5:37 pm

    As someone who has spent most of their adult life fighting in shit-holes run by despots lording over oppressed people, one thing I’ve learned is karma is a very rare commodity. It rarely manifests itself absent an outside catalyst….which for the last 100-years has been the United States. WE’RE the karma for people yearning to be free.

    This is what is so remarkable and rare about the Great American Experiment, a Republican form of government underpinned by the most enviable justice system humanity has ever known….until now.

      JohnSmith100 in reply to TargaGTS. | May 30, 2024 at 6:28 pm

      I have contended for over 50 years that some people ar on earth to see that bad people receive what they have coming well before their death. I first formulated that during a discussion with a group of ministers.

      If no one intervenes to stop bad people, then those people create a lot of mayham before their judgement day.

      artichoke in reply to TargaGTS. | May 31, 2024 at 9:23 am

      If you still thought we had an enviable justice system after Chauvin, and the Arbery defendants, and the J6 defendants, and only this one changed your mind, I don’t know what to say to you.

      I guess judges and lawyers have already included their share of smarmy scumbags. What’s new is that juries will convict in these cases, 12-0, supposedly beyond reasonable doubt.

      What English teacher taught them the meaning of “reasonable doubt”? A different one than any of mine.

    Camperfixer in reply to Leslie Eastman. | May 30, 2024 at 7:36 pm

    Karma needs to hurry up, like tonight when The Husk hopped up on his special Chinesium Special Sauce, could (should) short-circuit,

I trust the fate of NYC and The State of New York is sealed by this verdict.

Libs don’t care if this is overturned before the election (or if any other prosecutions are stopped by SCOTUS). This will only fuel the demand for “court reform,” which means packing it with progressives the next time the Dems are in power (which could be as early as the 2024 election). They will accept the lemons and make lemonade. Except for the fact they’re not that smart, I would think this has been part of the plan from the beginning – the Dems may have engineered this win-win situation.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair | May 30, 2024 at 5:34 pm

Conservative AGs and DAs need to be indicting every single democrat sack of sh*t around. Every single one of them, in every state. Inventive prosecutors can find some nexus to their own states to indict all of these scum in other states …. just have some Joe in their state get something on the internet by the target and then issue an indictment over that and start the extraditions.

Every single democrat is a traitor and an enemy of the nation. And this all really broke open with Barky. That was where the real treason and the democrats total war against America started.

JohnSmith100 | May 30, 2024 at 5:34 pm

No one has to trump up charges to hang Dems, when will that party begin? I suppose after the election.

On the other hand, surely conservative states can come up with causes for action sooner than that.

    artichoke in reply to JohnSmith100. | May 31, 2024 at 9:27 am

    Why after the election? I don’t think Trump will be elected. People are outraged now. In 5 months of press massaging the “convicted felon” message, he’ll be seen as yet another convicted felon, by enough people who “believe in law and order” to swing some red states to Biden.

Like a good little apparatchik, Kangaroo Marchan has followed his orders. In doing so, he has opened Pandora’s Box.

So the gag order is now off, right? Now President Trump can speak freely about the travesty of justice this persecution represents.

NYTimes et al. already had the headlines written.

Avoid doing any business in NY, and do no business with companies headquartered there. Don’t travel through the state unless absolutely necessary, and do the speed limit.

    irishgladiator63 in reply to Dimsdale. | May 30, 2024 at 6:19 pm

    No. What will happen now is any statements made by Trump will show lack of acceptance of responsibility and lack of contrition. Merchan will use that at the sentencing to increase the penalty. It’s a rigged game

      Dimsdale in reply to irishgladiator63. | May 30, 2024 at 6:42 pm

      Frankly, I don’t think President Trump has anything to lose at this point with Kangaroo Marchan.

      It is most certainly rigged.

      DaveGinOly in reply to irishgladiator63. | May 30, 2024 at 6:53 pm

      What makes you think Merchan is in any way inclined to go easy on Trump without such statements from him (DJT)?

        irishgladiator63 in reply to DaveGinOly. | May 30, 2024 at 7:37 pm

        I don’t. This case should be probation and a fine at max in a normal world. However, since we’re not in a normal world, I fully expect Merchan to sentence Trump to the max on each count and run them consecutively.

      Valerie in reply to irishgladiator63. | May 30, 2024 at 8:30 pm

      He would do that no matter what Trump said. The media always lies about what he said, anyway.

      clintack in reply to irishgladiator63. | May 30, 2024 at 8:43 pm

      Trump stepped out of the courthouse post-sentencing and called it a “rigged trial by a conflicted judge who is corrupt”.

      I’d say the gag order era is over.

    artichoke in reply to Dimsdale. | May 31, 2024 at 9:28 am

    He’s getting rich off it. He’s more than an apparatchik, now he’s a hero of the left.

As far as I am concerned New York ceased being American today.

    Just New York City and its close environs.

      Dimsdale in reply to BillB52. | May 30, 2024 at 6:43 pm

      C’mon, man! Ithaca? Albany? There are still areas of red, but the state is tanked.

      Do no business with them.

        Danny in reply to Dimsdale. | May 30, 2024 at 8:33 pm

        We could do better than that.

        Nobody loses more from enforcement of regulations on looted antiquities and purchase of antiquities from illegitimate governments than New York City.

        I reacted to this first by finding the donation site to Trump crashed but then emailed my congressman about the antiquities issues.

        We could substantially wound New York.

        https://www.theartnewspaper.com/2023/03/21/metropolitan-museum-1000-objects-provenance-problems

        Spread the message and try to make a mass move of people emailing their congressman about the looting issue if they think there is a mass constituency that cares about it one of New York’s flagships is toast (The met has been known to be dirty for a very long time).

        I am sure there is more we could do but the reason that came to mind first was I have been following along the looting issue for years.

      irishgladiator63 in reply to BillB52. | May 30, 2024 at 7:40 pm

      The corrupt NY AG Letitia James has jurisdiction over the whole state. Stay away from the whole thing.

        Exactly. Every legal system has mistakes. In New York if they learn you are a Republican that mistake will go to the jury instead of being dismissed by a judge and the jury are New Yorkers which means they want your blood.

      Danny in reply to BillB52. | May 30, 2024 at 8:39 pm

      First even if that is true the population defines a state.

      Second someone else already pointed out Democrats are competitive or solidly winning a lot of areas beyond New York City

      Third the promise of equal justice is so fundamental that to openly deny it in this brazen a matter is unforgivable precisely because yes it could be you. Don’t believe me read this https://redstate.com/brandon_morse/2024/05/29/doj-tracked-moms-for-liberty-as-a-hate-group-according-to-uncovered-emails-n2174812

      Accidents happen all the time in our legal system. We rely on judges to keep them from reaching trial and we rely on an honest jury system so if there is a corrupt judge like the one in this case at least one will have integrity.

      Apparently no more.

        TargaGTS in reply to Danny. | May 30, 2024 at 10:29 pm

        To reinforce your point about ‘it could be you,’ one needn’t look any further than what Biden’s DoJ is doing to people who had the ‘temerity’ to PRAY too close to an abortion clinic. There have been several sentenced to almost a decade in prison for that ‘crime.’ Yes, it could definitely be anyone one of us here.

    wendybar in reply to Danny. | May 31, 2024 at 4:47 am

    Should have figured that out when Cuomo (and later Hochul) told conservatives that they don’t belong in NYC and to leave.

      Danny in reply to wendybar. | May 31, 2024 at 11:11 am

      We need to boycott New York and work triple overtime to get regulations on looted antiquities strengthened and ENFORCED.

      New York City lives entirely on reputation especially cultural reputation created in no small part by the Met.

      Send everything that was stolen and taken to the Met home. Eliminate one of the centerpieces of New York.

      Half of the Met collection is known to be illegally looted, and that is just what is publicly known.

      Teach them we can’t be kicked around write to your house member about looted antiquities not being American and needing to be remedied.

Ann in L.A. | May 30, 2024 at 5:39 pm

How many votes in did Trump just win among Black men? The next big poll with a breakdown by sex and race should be interesting.

    Dimsdale in reply to Ann in L.A.. | May 30, 2024 at 6:44 pm

    It would be amusing to see Pres. Trump compare himself with George Floyd.

    Danny in reply to Ann in L.A.. | May 30, 2024 at 11:29 pm

    Unfortunately my guess is zero.

    The unfairly persecuted hypothesis has no evidence behind it.

    I would be interested if you polled black Trump supporters about feminism “the future is female” or “toxic masculinity” and other anti-male ideas of the Democrats…..

    My guess is alienated men thinking exactly like white men.

    artichoke in reply to Ann in L.A.. | May 31, 2024 at 9:32 am

    They’ll be controlled by the black women, and their preachers and ministers. There are enough black people who will want to “believe in law and order” and feel superior to Trump that this will only hurt him with the black vote, as it will with the vote of every other demographic.

Part 1 of the plan is complete. Part 2 of the plan is to sentence him to jail. Any length of sentence will do. Part 3 is to Epstein him. Watch for it.

    alaskabob in reply to irv. | May 30, 2024 at 5:54 pm

    Actually, the “sacrificial lamb” is good old Brandon. A false flag to hurt him is what the Dems need. Good old Joe is on a bubble at the hands of his own puppet masters.

      MarkS in reply to alaskabob. | May 30, 2024 at 6:02 pm

      I’ve been predicting that it will be a MAGA hat wearing AR-15 toting Trumpest

      artichoke in reply to alaskabob. | May 31, 2024 at 9:34 am

      They’ve been trying to off him since he didn’t get out of the way for Kamala early in his term. Now maybe they don’t need to. I don’t see Trump winning now. The “convicted felon” label will hurt in many many ways. It will be massaged so skilfully and relentlessly by the press for 5 months, and even a successful appeal won’t wash it away.

    venril in reply to irv. | May 31, 2024 at 1:19 pm

    You know assassination was always in the cards for the Dems. I was wondering when squeeky fromm would appear in a crowd.

In jail or not I will crawl on coals to vote for him

    artichoke in reply to Skip. | May 31, 2024 at 9:35 am

    Sure, but you can’t vote any harder than you already would have. It’s the swing voters who matter.

thad_the_man | May 30, 2024 at 5:55 pm

Whatever you do do not be Jan6th.

    MarkS in reply to thad_the_man. | May 30, 2024 at 6:04 pm

    Why not? as a speculative question what other options present themselves when the prosecutors are corrupt, judges are corrupt, the entire system is corrupt?

      thad_the_man in reply to MarkS. | May 30, 2024 at 6:20 pm

      You misunderstand I mean don’t let yourself be Jan6th by “the man”.
      Alex Jones had a group in Washington on Jan 6. None of his people were arrested. Why? Because when trouble started his started chanting “Feds” and went away.

      Don’t let yourself do something stupid, obey the law and don’tg et Jan 6th.

      wendybar in reply to MarkS. | May 31, 2024 at 4:48 am

      Time for tar and feathers for ALL Progressives.

    MarkSmith in reply to thad_the_man. | May 30, 2024 at 8:18 pm

    LOL, do you understand what J6 was? Over 1 million people were there. If they were looking to cause problems, they would have. Other than the deep state triggering the violence, there was no issues. If you don’t see how they have been controlling you, you need to wake up. Fear is their tool. While you are looking at the squirrel, they will freeze your bank account.

    So who plated the bomb at the DNC and RNC headquarters. They have been geo tracking J6s but can’t find the bomb planters. Geotracking shows they went to FBI HQ after planting the bombs.

So when will the conservative protestors gather in front of the judge’s home? How about the DA’s home ?
When will the jurors get doxxed ?

Never. Only the libs do this.

Conservatives have to go to work the next day.

This trial has turned Trump into a sympathetic figure to many us who didn’t care for him. I assume he will campaign hard on the ‘this could be any of you’ aspect.

    Paula in reply to jdchem. | May 30, 2024 at 6:24 pm

    You are 100% correct.

    JR in reply to jdchem. | May 30, 2024 at 7:08 pm

    Yes, it will fire up his base, as usual. The problem is that Trump’s base is as fired up as it could ever be before the verdict. The question is whether Independents and women voters will consider the fact that their vote for Trump is a vote for a candidate who has now been convicted of 34 criminal felonies. I don’t think this helps Trump in the general election.

      gonzotx in reply to JR. | May 30, 2024 at 7:29 pm

      Jr is

      Joe biden

        artichoke in reply to gonzotx. | May 31, 2024 at 9:40 am

        Your head is

        in the sand.

        He’s not saying Trump is bad. He’s saying Trump will lose. This is a better country than I think it is, if the people can withstand 5 months of expert crowd control and press messaging and CIA games of various sorts, and still vote for Trump by enough margin to overcome the election cheating — that the Dems are still allowed to do and Reps had better not get caught at or else.

        venril in reply to gonzotx. | May 31, 2024 at 1:22 pm

        A rotating assignment at Langley, punishment detail.

        JohnSmith100 in reply to gonzotx. | May 31, 2024 at 2:31 pm

        Kangaroo jury and NYC.. Turning to the other cheek will only encourage more of the same kind of conduct, the only way to dissuade is severe retaliation.

      jb4 in reply to JR. | May 30, 2024 at 7:57 pm

      I think this helps a lot with Black men. Trump is now one of them, “screwed by the Man.”

      Evil Otto in reply to JR. | May 30, 2024 at 8:48 pm

      “The problem is that Trump’s base is as fired up as it could ever be before the verdict.”

      You have no goddamned clue.

      AF_Chief_Master_Sgt in reply to JR. | May 30, 2024 at 9:47 pm

      Fûck it. We’ll all vote for Biden since you now believe he is the only candidate

      Then we can watch America flush down the shitter.

      Then you can masturbate over your success until you die.

      Ironclaw in reply to JR. | May 30, 2024 at 11:23 pm

      Their other choice is a retarded, demented pedophile that was only let off from being charged with felonies because he’s senile.

    gonzotx in reply to jdchem. | May 30, 2024 at 8:34 pm

    If you didn’t care for him you haven’t been paying attention for decades

Anyone still willing to vote for a Democrat after this has a broken moral compass. They are a danger to themselves and others.

    JohnSmith100 in reply to jhkrischel. | May 31, 2024 at 2:37 pm

    I used to pick and chose, but I am so pissed at what the Dem party has become for some time I have voted all Republican, if a RINO is in play I might have to reconsider.

America id officially a POLICE STATE!

Gremlin1974 | May 30, 2024 at 6:34 pm

This was never going to be anything but a guilty verdict. Even if someone did buy into the prosecutions and judges case, No one with any sense was going to vote to acquit.

Think what would happen to that person. They would be doxed before the day was out, their house and business destroyed and be forced out of the state. Not everyone can afford just to up and move. This was a far gone conclusion.

This is just one more example of lawfare after many lower level runs.

Sen. Ted Stevens (not disclosing exculpatory evidence), Congressman Tom Delay, a county Sheriff candidate with good numbers in the PDRNJ indicted on garbage charges just before the election (indictment was dismissed in another county after he lost).

thalesofmiletus | May 30, 2024 at 6:44 pm

You don’t have to sell me. I’m already voting for Trump.

Often write Lawfare goes the other way. Leftists sue the government and the government folds like a cheap suit to pat out the Leftists.
See Pigford cases way back

Trump should embrace it and start wearing black & white striped ties.

How much does anyone want to bet one of the two lawyers on the jury just happened to be elected jury foreman and lied to the rest of the jury about his knowledge of law to get a conviction?

    TargaGTS in reply to Sanddog. | May 30, 2024 at 6:56 pm

    FWIW, the foreman was the 40-something male (single, no children) who lives in East Harlem and works in ‘sales.’ I believe his primary news source was listed as ‘The DailyMail.’

    jharp in reply to Sanddog. | May 30, 2024 at 8:17 pm

    I’ll take that bet.

    For all you’ve got.

I am wondering what the sentence will be? Will Marchand really try and jail him for the rest of the campaign season?

    Dimsdale in reply to Skip. | May 30, 2024 at 6:50 pm

    Would you put it past him? Kangaroo Marchan is a good little apparatchik.

    I am going to say a generalized Yes to your second question.

    Merchan will do something to prevent Trump from campaigning. Merchan may put Trump in prison. Or he may put him on house arrest at Trump Towers. Trump WILL be prevented from traveling by whatever means Bragg can dream up. Also, Merchan will probably slap some sort of unconstitutional gag order on Trump so that no campaigning can be done from New York.

      TargaGTS in reply to BillB52. | May 30, 2024 at 7:30 pm

      It’s unlikely because being in prison would be the excuse the federal court would need to reach down and take the case from the state. Merchan – and his handlers – understand this. Absent imprisonment, there’s really no real avenue for Trump to directly appeal to the federal courts until after the state appellate process has been exhausted….probably a couple years from now, or more.

        TargaGTS in reply to TargaGTS. | May 31, 2024 at 8:49 am

        My original thought was that it’s not beyond Merchan to jail Trump immediately. I gave that some though and reasoned that would probably be the wrong tactical and strategic decision. But, maybe that’s wrong.

        Merchan has never taken the opportunity to do the conventional throughout this trial. It’s probably foolish to believe that will change at sentencing. Maybe he will jail Trump.

        thalesofmiletus in reply to TargaGTS. | May 31, 2024 at 9:05 am

        Trump can be Espteined faster than a federal judge can don his robe.

destroycommunism | May 30, 2024 at 6:49 pm

now fjb can pardon him

ahahahahahahaaaaaa

    Biden couldn’t do that because these are State of New York crimes. He can only pardon or commute Federal crimes. Biden wouldn’t do it anyway because Trump is literally Hitler reborn and a threat to the Democrats “Democracy”.

destroycommunism | May 30, 2024 at 6:50 pm

we need trump now more than ever >>maga>>potus 2024

So now it’s official, we are a regular corrupt dirty banana republic. No better than any other third world country. This is what happens when you put a pedophile in the White House

    ThePrimordialOrderedPair in reply to Ironclaw. | May 30, 2024 at 7:08 pm

    This is what happens when you put a pedophile in the White House

    This is the result of people having elected Barky as the agent of America’s destruction. Every single vote for Barky was a vote for the end of America and this is the result of that. It was easy to see even back then. The GOP was scared to even have Barky forced to present some sort of argument to claim that he was Constitutionally eligible (which he wasn’t) and the Democrats and others were voting for Barky in order to put an end to America – a painful end. As the Constitution was intentionally ignored by all in allowing Barky to even run (and even after he held one of the largest campaign rallies in American history … in a friggin foreign country … for a bunch of friggin foreigners … paid for in part by a friggin foreign government ….) it was clear that once Barky got into office it was all going to be over. That was the beginning of the end. And now we are close to the completion of the American Destruction Project. But it all really started, in earnest, with Barky, the Indonesian Imbecile.

      That’s nonsense. There’s no question that he was eligible. He was the worst president since Wilson (but since eclipsed by Biden), but he was legitimately president.

        ThePrimordialOrderedPair in reply to Milhouse. | May 30, 2024 at 11:50 pm

        He was ineligible … but that wasn’t the point, Einstein. The point was that if anyone had any doubts then Barky should have had to present proof that he was eligible. A court might well have decided in his favor (even though it would be a mistake) but Constitutional eligibility is not something that any candidate be waved on just because of some informal claim. Barky should have had to present his proof in court. The Donofrio case in New Jersey should have been heard. Hell, in New Jersey, there was a NON-CITIZEN – a friggin ALIEN – on the Presidential ballot, in addition to Barky. But d-bag Republicans like you made stupid arguments about how Barky was so obviously eligible (without one shred of proof of any sort, at all) because they were terrified of even being seen holding to the Constitution and demanding some tiny amount of actual proof for his claims. You and people like you on the right were almost as much the cause of this destruction as the lunatic french revolutionaries of the left.

As spineless as the Republican Party has shown to be, Trump may be prevented from being nominated. I am from Texas. The March Primary vote was won by Trump. I will be waiting to see if the Texas Republican has a spine.

If Trump is the Republican Nominee, I expect all sorts of challenges from the Democrats and TDS Pseudo-Republicans to prevent him from being on the ballot in all 50 States. This will be done by State level lawsuits so that it ties up the Republicans in 50+ actions.

Should that fail, the Elections will be so crooked that it will be unimaginable. I suspect that in Blue and Purple (Swing) States, the votes will be counted thusly — one Trump voted ballot for Trump, one Trump voted ballot in the trash.

If the Democrats can’t pull that off and Trump is elected, the Democrats will declare on Jan 6th or whatever date the certification vote is held that the election results will not be certified because Trump is a “convicted felon”. This will be done by the Democrats and TDS pseudo-Republicans. The certification will NEVER go to a State by State vote.

The Banana Republic of North America will then be in full force.

    destroycommunism in reply to BillB52. | May 30, 2024 at 7:05 pm

    how close is the cruz allred match up???

      TargaGTS in reply to destroycommunism. | May 30, 2024 at 7:18 pm

      Cruz +8-points in RCP average.

        destroycommunism in reply to TargaGTS. | May 30, 2024 at 7:24 pm

        america can nottttt lose texas to the leftists

        thanks for the reply

        The Democrats that run Harris (Houston), Bexar (San Antonio), Travis (Austin), Dallas and El Paso counties will “fortify” the vote to give Allred the election. It will happen sometime on November 6th, when the Democrats will know how much “fortification” needs to be applied.

        I am a Texan living in Bandera County which is only a few miles from Bexar (pronounce like ‘bear’) County.

          drsamherman in reply to BillB52. | May 31, 2024 at 11:39 am

          Collectively known by the nicknames: Harrass, Behar, Travesty, Dullass, Justpasso Counties.

          Shout out to fellow South Texan in Bandera County. San Antonian here. Soon to be in Comal County. We’re done with Bexar County and the Castros.

    Milhouse in reply to BillB52. | May 30, 2024 at 10:24 pm

    If Trump is the Republican Nominee, I expect all sorts of challenges from the Democrats and TDS Pseudo-Republicans to prevent him from being on the ballot in all 50 States.

    How? This conviction changes nothing.

      jhkrischel in reply to Milhouse. | May 31, 2024 at 10:00 am

      Everything impossible is impossible until it isn’t.

      Democrats cannot be trusted with power. If they’re able to trump up fake charges to convict you, what makes you think that’s where they’ll stop? Why not trump up fake reasons to remove him from the ballot? Or threaten to jail any electors from the opposing party? Or throw grassroots activists in jail for their protests?

      This conviction changes everything, again – it once again demonstrates that Democrats have no line they will not cross. And now they’ll need to be taught the lesson, again, that when they blow up the judicial filibuster, it’ll come back to bite them in the ass.

      I fully expect Trump to blow out Biden in November, and for the Ds to put their secession plan for California and New York into action. It used to sound like a joke, but I believe we need to take their fever-dream fantasies seriously. They truly believe that we’re all nazis, and they have the right to use lethal force to make us behave the way they demand.

    Milhouse in reply to BillB52. | May 30, 2024 at 10:27 pm

    Democrats will declare on Jan 6th or whatever date the certification vote is held that the election results will not be certified because Trump is a “convicted felon”.

    They can’t do that. Congress has no authority to add to the qualifications listed in the constitution, and “not a convicted felon” isn’t one of them. He’s a natural-born citizen, he’s at least 35 years old, and he’s lived in the USA for at least 14 years. He could be serving a life sentence for rape and murder and he’d still be eligible.

destroycommunism | May 30, 2024 at 7:04 pm

Now they are setting up the gop to run someone else other than trump to force a split vote situation

lefty knows what they are doing and

by any means necessary means just that

1) What needs to be said cannot be said on a conservative platform unless you want to find yourself in a cell with one of the J6 political prisoners.

2) As someone who enjoys reading the history of 20th century conflicts, I always wondered how Russia/Getmany/Japan (and lots of other nations) fell into chaos. I do not wonder any longer.

3) Patriotic Americans who love their nation, their flag, their constitution, no longer give the consent of the governed. The demented pedophile who stole the 2020 election from the American people and those that aided and abetted him must be brought to justice in this world before God almighty gets a hold of them.

4) Say the Lords Prayer to yourself, mindful that today is the first day in the Valley of Darkness. Things are going to get *MUCH* worse before they get better.

    MarkSmith in reply to Peter Moss. | May 30, 2024 at 8:21 pm

    It does not need to be said, we already know.

    Milhouse in reply to Peter Moss. | May 30, 2024 at 10:30 pm

    1) What needs to be said cannot be said on a conservative platform unless you want to find yourself in a cell with one of the J6 political prisoners.

    That’s bullshit. The freedom of speech has not been abridged; nobody has been or can be arrested merely for expressing an opinion, or for advocating something, no matter how illegal that thing may be. You can advocate the assassination of the US president, and not only can’t the government touch you, it can’t even fire you if you work for it. Rankin v McPherson.

TrickyRicky | May 30, 2024 at 7:18 pm

We now live in the 21st century iteration of the Soviet Union.
Remember the infamous quote from Laventiy Berea, Stalin’s head of the NKVD……”Show me the man and I’ll show you the crime”.

There’s not only Schadenfreude, there’s Brillenbrillanz, the sudden enervating clarity afforded by new glasses.

destroycommunism | May 30, 2024 at 7:34 pm

black males knowww the system just f’d over djt

hoping to see more votes from that group

From Catturd off of X.

Dear Republican Party @GOP …

I don’t want to hear another damn word about Ukraine.
I don’t want to hear another damn word about Israel.
I don’t want to hear another damn word about GAZA.
I don’t want to hear another damn word about Taiwan.
I don’t want to hear another damn word about any other country except the USA, you America-last war pigs.

The fascist Democrat Party has completely destroyed our country from within, we have a wide open border, and they’re shitting on the Constitution while you spineless, coward losers get rich on insider trading, rage tweet, and talk about your “principles.”

They’re literally arresting their political opponents and their lawyers and having kangaroo communists show trials – and you pitiful, worthless losers are doing absolutely nothing.

If you don’t have balls to fight for freedom – RESIGN !!!

Those who said the jury system was broken after Rittenhouse was acquitted now have to face their cognitive dissonance.

So much winning.

Convicted felon Donald J. Trump…

…the Republican Party nominee for President.

Great pick comrades.

I agree with John Hinderaker’s sentiments, expressed over at PowerLine Blog. It it long past time to go scorched earth on all Dhimmi-crat apparatchiks, at all levels of government. Non-stop lawfare, no matter how underhanded the tactics or how flimsy the pretext.

    jharp in reply to guyjones. | May 30, 2024 at 8:19 pm

    Bring. It. On.

      guyjones in reply to jharp. | May 31, 2024 at 1:50 pm

      LOL, whatevs. The lawless, totalitarian, vindictive, destructive and stupid Dhimmi-crat apparatchiks have it coming. As do their stupid, narcissistic, arrogant and self-congratulatory lemming supporters.

ChrisPeters | May 30, 2024 at 8:25 pm

Donald J Trump.

Real Estate Tycoon
Reality TV Star
President Of The United States

and now

Political Prisoner

Donald Trump is no saint, but he is certainly not a criminal. This is political persecution by Biden and the rest of the Democrat Party, an effort to deny America to vote for the political opposition.

    gonzotx in reply to ChrisPeters. | May 30, 2024 at 8:38 pm

    Chris Peterson’s a not a Saint, but he’s not a criminal by any means

    I’m so sick of these type of postings

      ChrisPeters in reply to gonzotx. | May 30, 2024 at 9:11 pm

      What’s wrong with it? Did I fail to properly slurp Donald Trump for you? I’d bet many are sick of your fawning, unwavering praise of Trump, as if he is of divine nature.

        gonzotx in reply to ChrisPeters. | May 30, 2024 at 10:27 pm

        What’s wrong? People who think they are so much better than others always use these ridiculous statements, especially about President Trump

        What have done and sacrificed for this Country in the last 8 years?

    gonzotx in reply to ChrisPeters. | May 30, 2024 at 9:02 pm

    You want a Saint, go to church

      ChrisPeters in reply to gonzotx. | May 30, 2024 at 9:13 pm

      I never demanded that he be a saint, and if you actually understood what I wrote, you would probably understand that. However, you are either too stupid or too blind to comprehend my meaning.

      Close The Fed in reply to gonzotx. | May 30, 2024 at 10:16 pm

      I disagree with your criticism of Chris Peters, but totally agree with your general sentiment:

      You want a Saint, go to church.

        ChrisPeters in reply to Close The Fed. | May 31, 2024 at 12:12 am

        I never asked for one. Gonzo just wants absolute love of Trump from everyone, and can’t understand that my comment was not meant as a criticism of Trump.

Open season on Biden. His supporters better pray he is never an ex-president because he will face the music.

35
He will sentence him to house arrest in his Trump Tower penthouse.

Mark it.
Posted by: blaster at May 30, 2024 06:04 PM

Which means his campaign will be only slightly less mobile than Biden’s.

    TargaGTS in reply to gonzotx. | May 30, 2024 at 11:05 pm

    Does anyone know what the jurisprudence is on a habeas petition for someone on ‘house arrest?’ Does that count as ‘imprisonment’ for the purposes of habeas corpus? It feels like it might.

Guess Milhouse is at the victory party.

Lotta champagne corks popping in the fever swamps tonight.

And the right?

They’re thinking Trump’s the ‘frontrunner’ even more now.

The left is fighting. The right is standing around getting hit.

If we won’t fight for this country, we’re going to lose it.

And I don’t mean screeding up the intarwebs.

    Milhouse in reply to Azathoth. | May 30, 2024 at 10:33 pm

    Go back to Hell where you belong, you filthy liar.

      MarkS in reply to Milhouse. | May 31, 2024 at 3:11 am

      “Thou doth protest too much, me thinks”

      Azathoth in reply to Milhouse. | May 31, 2024 at 9:58 am

      You always say this.

      And can’t refute a single word I say.

      Don’t think people don’t notice that, Democrat.

      Kept your leftist mouth shut when the judge gave ‘choose your own predicate crime’ instructions to the jury –and then said that they could choose whichever.

      There was no crime, leftist. There was no predicate crime.

      And you were off partying with the other leftists and Democrats the minute that crooked jury went off to ‘deliberate’

      Now you think you can come back and lecture US?

      Don’t go to Hell, liar. Or Heaven. Go to nothing, eternally knowing that with every breath the gods gave you to make joy in the world, you chose evil and that forevermore you will be allowed nothing.

Time to initiate RICO and other charges against crime boss, Biden, and, his entire corrupt, rotten, avaricious, lazy and entitled clan. Their $30 million-plus foreign bribery and influence-peddling racketeering schemes have been going on for decades, unmolested by either the FBI or DOJ, and, probably enabled and protected by those utterly corrupt and compromised agencies.

Trump will knock it out of the park tomorrow at his press conference. He’s identified the true jury, and now he can make his case.

If you want what Biden has delivered, from the lawfare on down, by all means. Obama’s transformation. The end of Individual Rights.

    While he is theoretically no longer gagged, any statements that show lack of “contrition” will be used against him at sentencing (i.e., a reason to jail him).

Time for red states to boycott NYS?

    I already have been since Cuomo told Republicans they weren’t welcome there. They can suck eggs. Hope it all burns to the ground at this point. No loss.

I dunno whether T is guilty or not … and frankly I don’t give a RA anymore. But you can’t shoot your mouth off like he does, verifiably lie about even the simplest of things 0n a daily basis, never admit you’re he’s at fault for anything … ever, be the ne plus ultra of narcissists, constantly demean people and conduct yourself with the bearing he does … and not expect people will eventually have had their fill of you … and not expect that when they come after you … they’ll be just as big a group of vindictive people as you are.

    If Trump was vindictive, he would not have put the country first and gone after Clinton. There is only one side that is vindictive here. Mean tweets should not be justification to frame the leader of the political opposition. It has NEVER happened before. There is NO JUSTIFICATION and to give it any credence is to pretend. The procedure alone shows this is political and now the lawfare games will become a norm.

    It’s not Trump, it’s all people that believe in individual rights.

    wendybar in reply to PODKen. | May 31, 2024 at 6:52 am

    So just sit and take it?? You would surrender before you fought?? YOU are the problem. When they come for you…just go.

    steves59 in reply to PODKen. | May 31, 2024 at 9:20 am

    This might be the most retarded viewpoint I’ve read, in a long day full of retarded viewpoints.
    Go back to your pod.

    jhkrischel in reply to PODKen. | May 31, 2024 at 9:51 am

    When are the Democrats going to realize that they’re the baddies they keep whinging about?

After everything President Trump sacrificed for this country your disgusting

Kept our boarders safe, kept our children out of wars

Deregulated all business,
Kept China and Russia in check

Economy was rolling

Donated every freaking penny he earned to charities

    Could have played golf and made money. He was loved by most all, although Obama was envious.

    What his family has been subjected to is a crime, too.

    Maybe this will backfire and move history.

I will walk through fire to vote for Trump in November.

Not a word from Congressional leader Mike Johnson

I see some back-and-forth in the comments. I implore everyone to put aside their differences and focus on Party unity and getting President Trump elected in November.

Donate money if you can. We need a united conservative front, now, more than ever.

Trump needs to channel his inner Dice Clay and tell ’em to run off and do the knuckle shuffle on the ‘ol piss pump.

So Destsnti

The “Party” is preparing to dethrone President Trumps at the convention and Instill Mr high heels

Never crossed
My mind/s

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/05/republican-party-florida-pushing-trump-republicans-are-elites/

    gonzotx in reply to gonzotx. | May 31, 2024 at 8:50 am

    So desantis

      artichoke in reply to gonzotx. | May 31, 2024 at 9:56 am

      I think Trump should throw his delegates to DeSantis, because DeSantis can win. I’d love to see Trump win even from a prison cell, but I don’t think we have the morality required to get that done. And Trump won’t be able to mastermind very much in a campaign if he’s under surveillance in a prison.

      It’s just an objective question: who can win the general election?

    murkyv in reply to gonzotx. | May 31, 2024 at 6:09 pm

    Stupid comment , Little G

Somebody should remind Biden that his buddy Nelson Mandela was sent to jail before he became President, too.

6 From one of my favorite sources on X:
“Remember that Vaclav Havel, Lech Walesa, Nelson Mandela, Mahatma Gandhi, Sir Thomas More, Joan of Arc and Jesus Christ were all also “convicted felons.”

All this does is energize Trump’s base and does nothing for Biden’s because he doesn’t have a base. No one is really a Biden fan, just sentimental about Obama, really hates Trump, or reflexive Democrat voter. While the media will spin and spin and spin, this isn’t the kind of “win” anyone can brag about and not elicit a “cringe” from people. It’s obviously a political stunt and even Trump haters know it. Heck even masked Keffiyah Karen probably knows it, and she thinks Palestine goes from the Ohio River to the Hudson Valley. Honestly convicted felon Trump is a pretty good tag line, and plenty of famous political figures have been jailed around the world to stop free and fair elections. Its disgusting to see it happening here in the USA, but it makes Trump a symbol of the true moral peril we are in. And we all know that America loves an underdog.

    MarkS in reply to schmuul. | May 31, 2024 at 8:15 am

    Speaking of energizing, I just did something never before contemplated,..I donate to Trump

    artichoke in reply to schmuul. | May 31, 2024 at 9:58 am

    Biden does indeed have a base: the entire left. They don’t even have to like him, but he’s throwing some real red meat their way late in his administration: student loan bailouts, promoting AI in government but with equity infused in everything it does and every discussion about it, and more.

    They’ll be told by their thought leaders to vote, and they will vote.

      schmuul in reply to artichoke. | May 31, 2024 at 9:54 pm

      Disagree but you seem to have a talent for certainty as many do these days : right side of history and all. I’m sending communication from the wrong side of history: I have learned never trust certainty, it generally smacks of zealotry and hive mind. We’ll see what we see, people aren’t automatons and young people love to rebel against the mainstream. Since the mainstream is now violence hatred and bigotry dressed up as social justice ; I think anything can happen. We may see kids rebelling in highly unique ways in the near future.

I thought having some time pass might ease the anger I was feeling last night. It hasn’t. In fact, I might be even angrier.

I honestly don’t know how this will impact the election. It’s difficult to step out of my ideological bubble. It feels like this has taken the energy up to levels not before seen in contemporary American politics. But, that could simply be projection. IDK. We’ll have to see what, if any, impact this has on the polls a month from now.

One interesting data-point was from both my daughters this morning who tell me that Instagram/TikTok lifestyle influencers – the same ones who can’t shut-up about ‘All Eyes on Rafah’ are absolute silent about this verdict, even this morning. That’s…strange. These are the same big-follower imbeciles who shared memes/messages about Roe being overturned and ‘gun violence’ after every shooting. They have nothing to say about this…thus far.

    M Eliza in reply to TargaGTS. | May 31, 2024 at 8:45 am

    Your daughter’s pals are just waiting for the media to tell them what to think and say.

      TargaGTS in reply to M Eliza. | May 31, 2024 at 8:53 am

      Maybe. But, from what I’m told, the minute Dobbs came down, there was robust activity from these influencers. And as I said, the same goes for mass-shootings and anytime Israel allegedly ‘kills children in their genocide.’ There is zero hesitation to chirp about those events. We’ll have to see if it changes. But, thus far they’ve been weirdly silent.

        schmuul in reply to TargaGTS. | May 31, 2024 at 9:13 am

        I most certainly don’t know how it will play out. I have no idea whatsoever. But this Democrat “win” feels like the kind of high you would get watching Michael Phelps decide he is a woman and then kick a bunch of female swimmers butts at the Olympics. It’s a cringe win, like winning on a technicality, or of course what it really is : winning by blatant in your face cheating, thug tactics, and lying. Don’t get me wrong, All those people who cheered when Trump got booted from all the social media platforms have likely learned nothing. But emotions are often stronger than thoughts. And the emotion here, at least to me, is hollow at best.

        artichoke in reply to TargaGTS. | May 31, 2024 at 9:46 am

        That’s because they had really lost and wanted to destroy. This time they really won and now they’re plotting the next steps in the campaign, esp. in the press and social media.

        Trump is not clean as a whistle, he’s not “Mother Teresa” (neither was Mother Teresa apparently but you know what I mean) and the left will be very effective in getting the “convicted felon” label to stick.

          schmuul in reply to artichoke. | May 31, 2024 at 11:18 am

          so what? convicted felon is the new cool! Orange is the new black. After all this is from the same people who think Osama bin laden has like so many wicked good points! Let the label stick; it suits Trump and casts him as the underdog against the corrupt government engine. Oscar Schindler certainly wasn’t Mother Theresa either, he was the just the right man at the right time, who chose to do the right thing.

They stole an election
They jailed his supporters indefinitely
They’re about to jail him for life

Welcome to the USA.

    artichoke in reply to gonzotx. | May 31, 2024 at 9:49 am

    Not sure about jail for life, but I think some prison time is likely. How could Merchan resist? They’re going to act like this is real, because it is, they got the convictions which legally means he’s a real live felon, and they won’t back down. Cuffing Trump’s hands behind his back and leading him out of the courtroom will fire up the Dem base to go vote!

They want to play hardball lawfare? Fine. Game on! Solution: 2/3 of the State Legislatures call for Article V Constitutional Convention. Then pass a constitutional amendment that EXPELS the State of New York from the United States. No approval from the POTUS required. Repeat for California. Done.

Ace comments

My reaction was the same reaction I had to Derek Chauvin’s murder trial: Not ONE person in the jury box has any sense of right and wrong? Not one? All 12 are stupidfuckingassholes?

Posted by: Soothsayer at May 31, 2024 08:46 AM (ny7PB)

SHAGONTHEFLY | May 31, 2024 at 9:17 am

12 Signed Checks x $ 35,000 . Nice Paper Trail .

Only we can save ourselves

I’m just needing a bit of direction cause nothing I’ve done has seemed to help

    jhkrischel in reply to gonzotx. | May 31, 2024 at 9:43 am

    Prep. Find friends. Teach what you know, learn what you can.

    The destruction of our civilization is going to bring on hard times, and you have to make sure you can take care of yourself first.

    My personal priority focus is security, food/water, then comms.

      gonzotx in reply to jhkrischel. | May 31, 2024 at 10:13 am

      That may “save me and mine for a very short time

      Now if I hadn’t been a city girl growing up and married a city boy, I’d be on a farm with cattle, chickens and lambs, big garden, I’m terrible with gardening, well not squirrels think I’m great, nothing seems to work

      But I worry for the grandchildren

      I’m going to ask my daughter to think about going in on same land, with in laws too. We can make a small farm

      I hope I can convince them

      Land has gotten so ridiculous

Trump will lose the election if he’s nominated. He could be a real patriot and throw his delegates to DeSantis.

Capitalist-Dad | May 31, 2024 at 9:59 am

Soviet show trial system worked as designed. It opens up whole new vistas for Beria-style Cheka activities—show me the man and I’ll show you the crime—that can be used against any opponents of Democrat tyranny.

“The first felony conviction of a former US President wasn’t for the Iraq or Afghanistan wars, illegal CIA coups, drone striking weddings, or spying on Americans… It was because Trump misclassified a

$130,000 payment for a porn star’s NDA,” wrote a user by the name Geiger Capital.

E Musk

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1796440638617244012