Survey Finds Employers Now More Wary of Hiring Ivy League Grads
“What has occurred more recently, with the pandemic and with all this nonsense going on, post October 7th, and all the rest has just been a bit of an accelerant.”
The reasons for this are a real mystery, aren’t they? The Ivy League has allowed their image to be destroyed.
The College Fix reports:
Employers more skeptical of hiring Ivy League grads, survey finds
An Ivy League diploma is losing its worth in many employers’ eyes.
A recent Forbes survey found employers have grown more skeptical of applicants from the most prestigious schools in the U.S. in the past five years – a period marked by race-based admissions, grade inflation, antisemitism, plagiarism, and leadership “double standards.”
According to the survey, one in three employers said they are less likely to hire an Ivy League graduate than they were five years ago. Meanwhile, only 7 percent said they were more likely to hire them.
Employers’ hesitation was specific to the Ivy Leagues, too.
The survey found 42 percent of hiring managers are more likely to hire public university graduates and 37 percent private university graduates, compared to five years ago.
What’s more, hiring managers were three times as likely to say public universities have improved in preparing students for jobs than Ivy League universities. Just 14 percent said Ivy Leagues have gotten better at preparing students, while 37 percent said public universities have, the survey found.
Forbes reports:
“The bloom has been off the Ivies,” says Fred Prager, a senior managing director at Hilltop Securities and a trustee at California’s Claremont McKenna College whose investment firm specializes in higher education. “What has occurred more recently, with the pandemic and with all this nonsense going on, post October 7th, and all the rest has just been a bit of an accelerant.” […]
“Being able to put yourself in someone else’s shoes is really important,” says Laura Bier, a San Diego-based management consultant specializing in healthcare and defense. “Kids who’ve been to a public school have had a broader diversity of friends from different backgrounds, teachers from different backgrounds and are better able to be nimble in those situations.”
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As Jerry Seinfeld used to say “Now that’s a shame“.
Speaking for myself, I’ve said in other threads over the years my belief that the guy or gal who sweated out a degree in night school is worth far more than some legacy admission to some hoity-toity Ivy League place.
And managers who start at the bottom and work their way up are better than some dipshit MBA.
Yes to both of you.
I just don’t get the attraction of an Ivy League school! Overspend to be around arrogant students, screeched at by angry and mouth lefty professors with chips on their shoulders the sizes of the White House and be subjected to daily readings of the DEI Little Red Book. No thanks….
The answer is “networking”, but I think that benefit is beginning to be overwhelmed by the negatives you mention.
Formerly, in the professional programs (law, medicine, etc.) those networking opportunities were golden for postgrad training and job opportunities. Now with all of the controversies and liabilities that those grads bring with them, in my profession (medicine), a number of postgrad training programs just won’t touch their grads due to the disrespect they show to their peers and the program faculty. Not worth the effort. I used to teach clinically in residency and fellowship programs, but I am giving that up at the end of June. Not worth the constant haranguing and harassment from students, faculty and administration.
once upon a time if u were studying law esp. an ivy school sheepskin
was worth it…
now not so much
During my time in banking and finance, I’ve seen this happening for years. Even 20 years ago, financial institutions would hire Ivy grads for “go along, get along” types of jobs like sales, but seldom for jobs where they had any control of the companies future or had to do any real thinking. There are still exceptions, but they are just that. Exceptions. They will become even more rare as employers understand these students are not only intellectually inferior, but are now socially inept and obnoxious.
They will become even more rare as employers understand these students are not only intellectually inferior, but are now socially inept and obnoxious.
Intellectually inferior? Judging by the sky-high SAT scores of Ivy students, probably not. But in terms of being able to use that high-IQ brain for problem solving, as opposed to parroting the narrative de jour, it would appear that the Ivies tend to produce the latter instead of the former.
Socially inept and obnoxious? Pretty much so.
But the overweening arrogance of the Ivies is old hat. My grandmother’s physician, in her small Southwestern town, was a Harvard graduate. She told me that Harvard graduates believe they are God’s gift to the world. That hasn’t changed much.
“Being able to put yourself in someone else’s shoes is really important,”
The Ivy League elite don’t know anyone who wears different shoes than they do.
My son and his two best friends, all well grounded and graduated from high school three years ago. They scored at least 1540-1570 on their SATs. They all matriculated to public universities. None of them made application to an Ivy.
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