Connecticut: Pro-Hamas Yale Student Raises Palestinian Flag On Menorah
“The student climbed the oversized menorah . . . as others screamed, ‘Get the f**k down!,’ and ‘It looks bad for us’.”
I’m not sure what is more shocking to me, the blatant antisemitism taking place on American (American!) college campuses and in our cities or the fact that it is being celebrated and encouraged by people in authority. From university presidents to sitting members of Congress to local elected officials, there seems to be a complete unwillingness to confront and combat this evil.
And when it is confronted, as in the following clip, it’s not clear what is more offensive: the evil of antisemitism or the way it “looks bad for us.”
Nice to see others ask him to get down until—you hear not one but two of them explain why. In their own words: “It looks bad for us.”
Bad PR is all that seems to matter—not the actual antisemitism. https://t.co/00nx4KaYJp
— Tali Goldsheft (@TaliGoldsheft) December 10, 2023
A pro-Palestinian student at Yale tried to co-opt the symbol of the current Jewish holiday by planting a Palestinian flag on a menorah.
The student climbed the oversized menorah . . . as others screamed, “Get the f**k down!,” and “It looks bad for us.”
One student is seen climbing the menorah to 86 the flag. The flag has now been removed.
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86ed the flag is a good start but if someone would have tried to burn the flag they would have been arrested for a hate crime.
Personally I think that they should have urinated on it and buried it in pig feces.
Not once it had been abandoned, by leaving it up there. Burning it after then would not have been a crime, so the penalty couldn’t be enhanced because of the motive.
Good to know.. thanks..
“It looks bad for us!”
That’s standard stuff in Islam. Nothing about Islam can be revealed or discussed if it puts Islam or Big Mo in a bad light. In Islamic law truth is no defense.
The truth about Islam and its practices is indeed ugly. One need not go far in proving this. The stupidity of Islam is only exceeded by its cruelty.
This billboard doesn’t even mention Big Mo, but everyone knows it states the truth. But the local Muzzies were all bothered precisely because the truth put Big Mo and Islam in a bad (& accurate) light,
https://www.indystar.com/story/news/2017/06/05/indianapolis-muslims-call-out-creators-local-billboard-insults-prophet-muhammad/370969001/
Muslims fear nothing more than the truth about their totalitarian, supremacist, death cult being publicized for all to see.
That is an understatement, when I look at the elements of Islam, I don’t think it should be treated as a religion, more like a cult. It should not receive nonprofit status. That approach would fix their wagons.
A “cult” is just an unpopular religion. There is no difference between them, certainly not in law.
It’s a useful distinction and description. There are standard diffferences between “cult” and “religion” in the psychological literature, involving more than simply being unpopular. People participate in cults differently than religions, or politics, for what that’s worth.
I don’t think Islam writ large counts as a cult, but some sects and movements who call themselves Muslim do. The people in them participate that way.
“Cults” are also not necessarily religions, see NXIVM.
As a practical matter, the most useful diagnostic criteria for a cult is whether they try to make you give them all your money, and whether they try to make you cut off contact with your family. (Real religions will often urge you to give money away, maybe even all of it, but not necessarily to them; they’ll tell you to give it to a cause that you think deserves it, whether it’s them or anyone else.)
[[[ whether they try to make you cut off contact with your family ]]]
Probably the most crucial defining feature. Leftists are notorious for suggesting young people cut ties with their families over political disagreements.
Milhouse — practical diffferences you named, exactly so. Another term from the literature is “totalizing.” A cult implements an exhaustive, exclusive, prescriptive world view, directing everything about what one does and thinks.
I may still have the ms a housemate from my misspent youth abandoned, recounting his trajectory through a cult, then out-ish into anti-cult work including “deprogramming.” The mental capture is a thing to see. Now that I’m older, I can see that parts of it also look like trauma stress responses.
He abandoned the ms. the “deprogramming” and went back to complete his Math bachelors at Brown, shortly after the cult-exited gf moved on. It looked like the example of being disentangled, not just out, catalyzed a change. “Decide what I want to do, as myself, and do that.” I recall him saying, with a profound affect.
Programmed people are easy to spot, once you’ve seen a couple.
For some people, the Democratic party is a cult. Also Marxism.
Gibbie — “For some people, the Democratic party is a cult. Also Marxism.”
Yep. Once you look at the operations and psychology, cults show up in many guises.
See Eric Hoffer’s The True Believer. Parts of Peck’s The People of the Lie resonate. Of course any military or intelligence handbook of mental influence and control.
I suspect US higher-ed might count as a cult — some disciplines certainly. Have you seen what they do to induct a grad student, or how they are mentally captured after?
A cult becomes a religion when it becomes wealthy.
islam is not a religion. It’s a political ideology. islam demands the power of state wherever it has the numbers (people can ask ataturk about that concept) which makes it political, not religious.
Yes — Islam is Arab imperialism wrapped in the language of a religion.
Bullshit. Any definition of “religion” that excludes Islam is broken. It is one of the defining examples of religions. And in the context of the USA’s founding documents there can be no doubt that “religion” includes Islam, because several of the founders explicitly said so.
That’s just dumb. Laughably so.
No, it’s the exact truth. That Islam is a religion is obvious and axiomatic. A definition of “religion” that excludes it is exactly like a definition of “disease” that excludes cancer, or a definition of “animal” that excludes dogs. Any claim otherwise is disingenuous.
Religion is best defined as what we use to answer the Big Questions of life – Who are we? Why are we here? How should we live?
https://blogs.cornell.edu/envirobaer/publications/why-a-functional-definition-of-religion-is-necessary-if-justice-is-to-be-achieved-in-public-education/
islam is not a religion. It’s a political ideology.
Or Islam has a lot more secular reach than some other religions, from received doctrine, and examples of right living attributed to the founding head.
From all those sources, it is totalizing. “Render onto Caesar what is Caesar’s.” would be nonsensical in Islamic doctrine.
Islam IS a religion. It is an all encompassing religion.
Built without the flaws of Judaism and Christianity.
Both of which tried Islam’s path nut failed because warlike nationalism was not built into either.
Judaism tried to spread in a warlike fashion on a tribal level.
Christianity tried to spread in a warlike fashion on an imperial level.
But Islam is fighting to spread on a global level. It is not ‘warlike’, it IS war. And there is no peace to be had until that war, which is at the heart of Islam, is won.
If one were to think up a religion that offered a bountiful table of food but under the table is an evil monster most would forgo it if they knew about the monster. Islam keeps the monster at bay until you break a rule that you didn’t know about and then they unleash the monster. Imagine if the Baptist church threatened to kill you and your family if you left the church! You would report them to the police. Imagine if you killed your daughter because she wanted to marry an infidel and not be arrested. Imagine beating your wife and not having to worry about the law. Imagine lying about anything and not having your religion condemn you for it. These are a few of my favorite things of Islam! It staggers my mind that anyone with a grade school education would fall for this crap but they do.
It’s not so long since the Roman Catholic church, as well as sundry Protestant churches, were doing just that.
As little as 5 years ago, this would have been decried as Hate Speech. How times do change.
Not against Jews, not by Democrats. Even five years ago.
Misgendering is violence and hate speech, stating that there only two sexes is terrorism against blah. But calling for the genocide of Jews? Totes cool. It always has been on the left, always. Including five years ago. Where have you been?
It’s selective hate: to the Dems, hate is good when it is “justifiable” by leftists.
The feelings of Jews or anybody else are not a factor in free speech.
At what point does expression become a threat? What if the display were a burning cross Anywhere in the US? Or in the US SouthEast? Any timme? Or between 1870 and 1920, or so?
At what point does expression become vandalism, or some other property crime? Pro-Palestinian activists hanging their own flag on their own menorah is one thing. Hanging it on someone else’s is another. Was the message pro-Palestine, anti-Israel, or “You can’t practice here (either.)” Do we perhaps want to treat those messages differently? Perhaps treat direct interference in someone else’s religious practice differently, as well.
(One of the great failures of the constitution of the US govt, was the omission of explicit rights to person and property. Religious freedom withou the means of person and property to practice it is a hollow autonomy.)
If you burn a flag that’s not yours, that’s property damage. It’s “always charge the right crime” when it is one. It doesn’t blow back on free speech. Hurt feelings is not a crime, especially in a political power grab where hurt feelings are a political weapon.
Jews have the Holocaust industry, blacks have the slavery industry, in the political weapon category. The members on the left half of the curve think of nothing else. The members on the right half of the curve use alienation as an artistic tool. The latter don’t have a problem with free speech.
Holocaust industry? Is that why my great-uncle had tattoos on his arm? What a vile thing to say…
I got academic book catalogs in the 80s. Under “Jewish Studies” was always a section “Holocaust for Children.” It’s part of the Jewish tradition of alienation and is used to reenforce it as a cultural matter.
It’s a positive in the minds of artists in that population and a negative (see black resentment as a standard here) in the minds of the dumber part of the population.
There was an airplane towing a banner over Harvard saying “Harvard hates Jews.” That’s the creative Jewish mind at work. It even has a sense of humor.
Huh? How does the existence of an industry mean that the thing it revolves around doesn’t exist? Does the textile industry mean clothing is a myth and we’re all really naked?! You can’t deny that there is a Holocaust industry. Many people make their livings from it. And the industry exists precisely because the Holocaust happened; if it were invented the industry would probably not exist at all, or would at least be much smaller.
Nonsense.
You must be forever belittled so that these leftists and quasi leftists can feel justified in wanting to slaughter all of you.
It never occurs to them that the ‘holocaust industry’ exists BECAUSE of how quickly they all want to open the camps again.
Tolerance to things like this will turn into submission to things like this. Look at our institutions.
Subotai Bahadur
Draping the Palestinian flag on a menorah in Connecticut raises weird questions,
Do Palestinians secretly want to be Jewish? Can there be Jews in a Palestinian state? Have Palestinians colonized Connecticut? Can there be Jews in Connecticut?
Relegate that Satanic symbol as a fabric bodybag, a disposable wipe for death scenes.
Blatant and obvious anti-Americanism and anti-Westernism has been about the only consistency of the democrat party since Barky slimed into office. That marked the real start of the government and most authorities in America being turned against America and any sort of Americanism. When Barky and his junta were allowed to get away with obvious crimes and clearly impeachable acts (not to mention outright treason) over and over and over, it was clear that there was no holding back the self-hating, nihilistic left – which is how we have arrived at this point with all of these putrid, treasonous dirtbags in positions of power.
The Democrats have been anti-American since the first Republican was elected to the White House. If they can’t rule it, they want to tear it down.
Glad to see that the old Harvard/Yale rivalry continues!
Who can be the biggest Hamas lickers?
So, if you drive over a ‘Pride flag’ that’s been painted on the road in a manner that police believe is meant to ‘deface’ the flag in some way, that’s a hate crime, but this isn’t?
It seems that using flaming arrows to ignite something out of reach has somehow not made it into the 21st century
Palestinian and other foreign flags flown on US soil, rainbow gender confusion flags, BurnLootMurder flags – so many
Free speech or “hate crime” ?
If muslim religious symbol was defaced what would be the response?
I think charlie hebdo knows the answer.
I have studied World History and World Religions, and Islam is more of a cult than a Religion. Many of its followers are fanatics that you cannot reason with. Many of its beliefs are still in the 7th Century but SHOULD have been updated to the 21st Century. Some of their beliefs are abhorrent and allow MURDER, and they allow LYING to infidels. Their ultimate goal is to take over the entire World and convert it to Islam. They will then implement Sharia Law which is a nightmare. We MUST stop this invasion before it is too late!
It’s in the right place, BELOW the menorah, admitting that Judaism is a higher thing.
I laugh at the Palestinians shouting chants and creating banners when if they really wanted to do something they would go to Gaza and fight for what they believe.