Poland Might Extradite Man Who Fought With Nazis After Trudeau and Zelensky Applauded Him in Canada
Remember, if you ever fought against Russia, you’re a hero…even if you fought in Nazi division during WWII.
Poland Education Minister Przemysław Czarnek has begun the process to extradite Yaroslav Hunka, 98, who fought with the Nazis in WWII.
Poland knows he is in Canada because Canada and Ukraine wanted to honor this “Ukrainian-Canadian hero.”
Here’s the story plus some history because history is important.
Poland and Canada
Poland, whom everyone has fought over since ever, is always seeking justice against those who destroyed her in WWII. Can you blame Poland?
Thanks to Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy, Hunka made international news.
Now, Poland might extradite Hunka. Czarnek wrote on X/Twitter (translated on the site):
In view of the scandalous events in the Canadian Parliament, which involved honoring, in the presence of President Zelenskiy, a member of the criminal Nazi SS Galizien formation, I have taken steps towards the possible extradition of this man to Poland.
Wobec skandalicznych wydarzeń w kanadyjskim parlamencie polegających na uhonorowaniu w obecności także prezydenta Zełenskiego członka zbrodniczej, hitlerowskiej formacji SS Galizien, podjąłem kroki w kierunku ewentualnej ekstradycji tego człowieka do Polski.… https://t.co/92qK1voktN pic.twitter.com/5J4lljH5JX
— Przemysław Czarnek (@CzarnekP) September 26, 2023
Again, the area of the formation is critical: Galicia [Galizien] was and still is part of Poland and Ukraine. Therefore, Poland can extradite Hunka.
The moment in parliament was beyond embarrassing for Trudeau and Zelenskyy. You literally honored a man who fought with Nazis. You have no idea if he harbored or still has Nazi viewpoints.
I bet Trudeau is going to make Speaker Anthony Rota take the fall.
Did #Trudeau have a personal meeting with Waffen SS Nazi Yaroslav Hunka ?
The evidence would seem to suggest so.
The Speaker of the Canadian Parliament barely had time to take full responsibility for inviting SS veteran Yaroslav Hunka (saying Trudeau and Zelensky had nothing to… pic.twitter.com/VzPIljDdIN
— Jim Ferguson (@JimFergusonUK) September 26, 2023
Leader of Canada's House of Commons is forced to apologize after honoring a NAZI in the public gallery who fought in WWII – as 98-year-old is given round of applause by Justin Trudeau and visiting Zelensky https://t.co/MHFoHSbjxj pic.twitter.com/9cNoLDjIxo
— Daily Mail U.K. (@DailyMailUK) September 25, 2023
Liberal House Leader Karina Gould and Canada’s Speaker of the House Anthony Rota holdings hands with Waffen-SS Nazi soldier, Yaroslav Hunka. pic.twitter.com/ZMzeqZu6gN
— Harrison Faulkner (@Harry__Faulkner) September 24, 2023
But hey. Hunka fought against Russia!
Trudeau once again shows that he lacks self-awareness or reality because Russia made him do it.
https://x.com/kanekoathegreat/status/1706391596869226981?s=46&t=WoPSQdrfSNikdCM6FjxaCw
History
Germany and Russia were enemies in WWII. They hated each other. The agreement they made would have never lasted, especially since Hitler hungered for the world.
Some of those under Russian, except Poland because obvs, rule would join anyone who fought against Russia.
Hunka fought against Russia as a member of the First Ukrainian Division in WWII. The division was also known as the 14th Waffen Grenadier Division, which was formed in the Galicia area.
Galicia is important because it is made up of Ukraine and Poland. But in WWII, it was German-occupied Poland.
The Nazis controlled the 14th Waffen Grenadier Division in its fight against Russia.
Trudeau and Zelenskyy honored Hunka at the Canadian Parliament.
But does that mean Hunka is a Nazi? Did he have the same views as the Nazis? Many people had to fight against their will. Many stayed quiet to save their families. People give Pope Benedict crap about being a member of the Hitler Youth. Guess what. You had to do that. If you didn’t, then your whole family could go to the camps and face death.
Again, no matter what, it does not change the fact that Hunka fought with the Nazis and belonged to a division under their control.
Was Hunka in the same position? How did the division come to be?
Initially, the Germans were greeted as liberators by some of the Ukrainian populace. In Galicia especially, there had long been a widespread belief that Germany, as the avowed enemy of Poland and the U.S.S.R., was the Ukrainians’ natural ally for the attainment of their independence.
The Nazis quickly made it known that independence wasn’t in the books for Ukraine.
I had to do quick research, but I found that those who volunteered for the unit had to swear allegiance to Hitler. But the Nazis promised the unit would only fight against Bolsheviks and communism.
So, did those who already joined the division have to stay once they realized they were duped? Could they have left once they realized the Nazis were just as horrible as the Russians?
There is no doubt in my mind that many of those people agreed with Nazi ideas and world viewpoints.
I don’t know how Hunka felt about Jews. It seemed Hunka agreed with the Nazis on nationalism, which in their view, meant eliminating everyone not like them.
Hunka wrote in a blog post, according to Heavy (emphasis mine):
He described how villagers welcomed German soldiers “with joy” when they entered his town in July 1941, “knowing that there would no longer be that terrifying knocking on the door in the middle of the night, and at least it would be possible to sleep peacefully now.”
He continued, “A new ‘liberator’ of the Ukrainian people – Führer Hitler – reigned over the Berezhansk land.” However, a “new wave of arrests” occurred. He was 16.
People signed up out of duty to their “native land” and out of fear the Russians would return, he wrote, adding, “Many students of the Berezhansk Gymnasium died a heroic death in the ranks of the UPA, in the ‘Galichyna’ division. I do not want the reader to understand that my entire generation was ideologically motivated and spiritually conscious.”
That’s a weird translation. I don’t know if it’s correct, but if it is, then the generation was ideologically motivated. Hunka even described his village of Urman as “the most nationally conscious village in the district.”
Ukrainian Nationalism existed then as it does now. It did not want to be a part of Russia or Poland.
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Comments
What a joke. This guy was almost a child when he was low level cannon fodder way back then. We took a Nazi who was instrumental in buzz bombing London, and showered him with accolades for getting us to the moon before our former ally, Russia.
So very true. How many Nazi scientists worked at NASA? Too many.
Far more communists worked in the US during WW2 than german scientists worked in the US following ww2
And this is relevant because? Oh yeah, it’s not.
Actually it is relevant. Because there’s no moral difference between a nazi and a communist. If it was OK to work with communists during the war, then it was equally OK to work with nazis after.
And that would be even if von Braun were an actual Nazi. But he wasn’t. He joined the party, and later the SS, because his career required it. But there’s no evidence that he ever subscribed to its ideology, or even cared for it at all. It was just something you had to do if you wanted to work with rockets.
It’s relevant because it may help explain why in talks among the WWII leaders about post-war arrangements, the US — meaning Roosevelt, whose administration did contain plenty of Communists — gave Stalin whatever he wanted, with disastrous consequences for millions of central Europeans.
Don’t forget that Uncle Sam let the quite a few of the Japanese doctors and scientists from Unit 731 go free after WW2 as well.
he was age 16-20 during the war
So the military aged Nazi was a “nobody” like you declared the Republican activist lawyer from New Hampshire who was murdered? What a putz you always show yourself to be every single time you post.
The guy was in theSS. He was literally a stormtrooper.
Learn some history man.
Justin Trudeau wouldn’t recognize a Nazi unless he drove a truck or criticized the lack of free speech
But he can sure do one great black face!
As a descendant of Galicia-born, Jewish grandparents (who lost many, many family members in the Holocaust), I have strong feelings about this issue.
It was assumed then, as it is now that many, if not most, Poles and Ukrainians were anti-Semitic.
I’m not going to argue this point with any of you who respond to this comment. IYKYK
Some guy who was an admitted member of a Waffen SS Division, not a regular line infantry division of the German Army, should not get any slack nor any sympathy. Anyone unfamiliar with the very real and very large distinction between regular units of the German Army and the Warren SS units should do some quick research. Members of the Warren SS units had to be ‘Aryan’. Some units were created after Nazi occupation but they still maintained their original ideology. As an example they didn’t accept ethnic Poles who were not or couldn’t pass as ‘Aryan’. These units were founded as the paramilitary, enforcement arm of the Nazi party and committed all sorts of horrors. Eff this guy.
Aren’t we forgetting … Zelensky’s ancestors were murdered by Nazi? How humiliating it must’ve been for him to discover that this Individual who had volunteered for the SS was given a standing ovation in the Canadian Parliament. I hope the Poles go ahead with the extradition and succeed before he passes. At least he can spend his final years battling the extradition!
Why do you think Zelensky would care about that? He doesn’t care about the neo-nazi Azov division fighting under his command.
This wasn’t the German Waffen SS. It was a Ukrainian division. This guy wasn’t “Aryan”; he didn’t have to be to join that division. And it’s not as if there were some other division he should have joined instead. If he wanted to fight the Soviets, which was a completely honorable thing to do, this was the division he had to join.
No, his fault is not in fighting in that division, but in his continuing support for the Nazi ideology, which is as bad (but no worse) than supporting communist ideology.
Milhouse,
It was a.Waffen SS Division raised, trained, equipped, ordered into battle, among other things, by the German Nazis. It wasn’t a simple, run of the mill line division. No sympathy for members of the Waffen SS divisions.
It obviously was different because it admitted non-Aryans.
Tell me what other options he had, if he wanted to fight the Russians?
I condemn him for his vocal support for the Nazis, to this day, but not simply for having fought in a certain type of unit.
Was the “Warren SS” part of the Supreme Court headed by Earl Warren?
A great book on the german / soviet war is Stalins War by mcKeenin
https://www.amazon.com/Stalins-War-New-History-World/dp/1541672798
Similar great book is – the second world War[s} by victor hanson
One important note is a large portion of the Ukranian population viewed the germans as liberators instead of aggressors. I am certainly not justifying the slaughter of the jewish population by the germans or the Ukranians.
Just noting that many ukranians justifyably viewed the germans as liberators – at least initially.
The definitive book about Ukraine, the people and the interwar period and war period. This book helps clarify the enmity felt between Ukrainians and Russians. Most libraries stock it. One can read it for free at archive.org.
Book – Bloodlands: Europe Between Hitler and Stalin by Timothy D. Snyder
The first hundred pages are grim and difficult to read.
Vasily Grossman was an exceptional Soviet war reporter. His gift was the human aspect of the war. He witnessed the Red Army retreat, was at Stalingrad for months, and witnessed the fall of Berlin. He was the first reporter to witness Treblinka. His account of it used at the Nuremberg trials.
Book – Vasily Grossman and the Soviet Century. Excellent.
I’m not into hardcore military war buff books beyond understand large battle events.
Fair warning. Avoid all books by author Anthony Beevor.
Ukraine famine history books.
Book- Harvest of Sorrow by Robert Conquest.
https://archive.org/details/the-harvest-of-sorrow_202301
Book- Red Famine by Anne Applebaum.
Anne Applebaum is a politically repulsive person. I refuse to buy her books. Red Famine is a highly derivative but somewhat updated version of Robert Conquest’s Harvest of Sorrow. Read it for free at archive.org.
https://x.com/TPostMillennial/status/1706734334932402471?s=20
The globalists call everyone a NAZI then when a true NAZI shows up they stand and clap like trained seals.
Who could have guessed that “punch a Nazi in the face” actually meant “give them a medal”?
But but the guy can’t be a Nazi because Zelensky applauded him and Zelensky is Jewish!!!!!
I really don’t think this will go much of anywhere. But it certainly is a nice bit of schadenfreude that the Parliament exposed him like this. It reiterates just how ignorant and gullible so many of these folks are. Our Congress is only slightly better (mostly because of anti-oppo-researchers trying to keep them from stupidity).
What’s “not much of anywhere” ? The Speaker of Parliament resigned yesterday.
Did you read the post? Or its title? It’s not about one person in Parliament taking the fall; it’s about Poland wanting to extradite the old guy. I don’t think that will go much of anywhere (though it’s entirely possible Canada will just fling him to the wolves without any due process).
Poland is absolutely livid at both Russia and Germany from WW2
Poland got attacked by both Germany and Russia twice by both during WW2
Once by a dual attack by Germany in Sept 1939 then two weeks later by russia
Then germany attacked the eastern half of poland in June 1941 as part of barbarosa, Then Russia effectively tore up Poland on their drive to Berlin in late 1944 and early 1945.
If Poland decides to ask Canada to extradite this Nazi, which they should IMO, then Canada will have a choice to make; ether send his ass to stand trial or harbour him, offering sanctuary from prosecution to a member of the Waffen SS.
Poland isn’t some 3rd world hell hole FWIW, they are a 1st world Nation, a member of NATO and the EU. They have plenty of legal safeguards to keep this ‘old guy’ from being railroaded in a kangaroo court. Though FWIW any surviving NAZIs from WWII are by definition ‘old’ as the war ended 78 years ago. No slack b/c crimes were a long time ago or the perpetrator is ‘old’ and IMO to suggest there should be some slack cut based on his age is completely BS. Do the crime do the time. Eff this guy.
Correct. Those tortured, abused, and murdered by the NAZIs are not any less dead just because 78 years have passed.
I don’t recall a statute of limitations for the atrocities they committed.
I don’t care if he was 15, 20, or 18 years old at the time.
Funny though. Hunka still does a pretty good informal Heil Hitler salute.
Once last thing. If liberals still call Trump a NAZI, they should be falling o er each other to execute this guy.
Yep. The primary one being that the Poles don’t get their hands on him until they convince a Canadian court that they have evidence he committed a crime. Evidence that they don’t seem to have, else he would have been tried long ago.
Merely being a member of a military unit that was involved in crimes doesn’t get it done,,,, or one hell of a lot more US Army soldiers would have gone to jail for what happened at My Lai in 1968.
First of all, it’s Canada – they don’t have individual rights or due process or any of the niceties of civilization.
Second of all, what due process, anyway? There is no question that he was in that unit and fought as a Nazi. That was exactly what they were applauding him for – having “fought the Russians in WWII” should have been the dead giveaway … but this is Canada.
He should be shipped off to Poland immediately.
He wasn’t some kid that signed up for the Wehrmacht. He volunteered for the SS, swore allegiance to AH and was used against Polish partisans and civilians. They also allowed Germany to free up personnel to fight on the western front. He wasn’t some misguided kid or a brave freedom fighter. By the time he volunteered everyone knew what was going on. . The SS also formed the Einsatzgruppen squads in Ukraine. A larger question is either Canadians didn’t know that Ukrainian WW2 vets who fought Russians were most likely fighting with the Germans, or they are trying to parse Nazis as being ok if they fought Russia. Kind of an SS lite..
Some of that is true, some less so.
But lets get to the part where there is actual evidence of HIM doing anything.
It’s been almost 80 years since the war ended. If they had the goods on this guy it sure has taken them a long time to have him fall into their hands.
Foreigners were barred from joining the Wehrmacht
Nah.
Approximately one million western foreign volunteers and conscripts served in the Wehrmacht during World War II. In addition, estimates state anywhere between 600,000 and 1,400,000 Soviet citizens (Russians and other non-Russian ethnic minorities) joined the Wehrmacht. The Ukrainian collaborationist forces were composed of an estimated number of 180,000 volunteers.serving with units scattered all over Europe.
Seventy years from now, I wonder if the world will hunt down every 101-year-old who trans’d their kids in the 2020s just like they hunt down Auschwitz bookkeepers and tower guards today?
I fervently hope so.
As long as they are still alive.
They certainly should.
Why? Because he embarrassed a few people who should have known better?
He’s 98 years old. Actuarial odds suggest he wouldn’t live long enough to be sent back to Poland anyway. But if he was, what do they plan on doing to him? Seriously?
Trying him and confiscating his estate.
Perhaps we should leave that vote up to the remaining families of the Poles, Jews, Catholics, etc., whose ancestors were given summary executions into a ditch on the side of the road, raped, gassed and burned in the concentration camps, medically experimented on, beaten, abused… shall I go on?
Membership in the Waffen SS itself does not constitute a crime. Perhaps we should require evidence that he, personally, was involved in anything illegal before we we allow him to be extradited – as compared to merely embarrassing a politician or two.
Oh wait, we do.
Which is good, That keeps the lynch mobs to a minimum.
I concur. I never said anyone should execute him. But he needs to face a jury if his peers if he did in fact commit these atrocities so natural to the NAZIs.
Funny though. A white guy commits a crime and all whites are bad.
I have never subscribed to this attitude so embraced by leftists.
I believe hanging was the preferred choice post conviction. Failing that lock his old ass up in some unpleasant place, though wherever that may be it won’t be as unpleasant as the treatment handed out by the Waffen SS; the armed enforcers of the Nazi ideology.
It’s another fad of the modern mania of Virtue-Signaling, which conspicuously lacks mercy for centenarians who committed no provable crimes.
But think of it — what a watermark for international amity!
A genuine commie (Trudeau), feting a genuine Nazi!
(And just in time for Oktoberfest!)
Einsatzgruppen -German
SMERSH -Russian
SMERSH and Einsatzgruppen murdered Ukrainians and Belerusians* at will. The Jewish and Slavic populace were whipsawed by the ebb and flow of the war fronts. Villages were overrun multiple times by opposing forces, and both forces raped, murdered, pillaged without restraint. Add partisan militia reprisal torture and murder and rapine to the ebb and flow.
Very few males walked away from all of that mayhem guilt-free. Women had it just as bad, or worse, in ways only women can suffer.
Foreign nationals joining the Germans had only one option; Waffen SS battle groups. Foreigners were barred from joining the Wehrmacht.
Males had four options. Join the Waffen SS, join irregular Red army formations, join variously disparate Partisan groups or get steamrolled. In the short term, women had even fewer means to stay alive.
Stalin signed non-aggression treaties with Poland and Finland and Estonia (treaty of tartu). And betrayed all of them.
The Stalin-Hitler Pact. Galicia and beyond. Stalin got as much out of the deal as Hitler did. Spheres of influence. Immediately after carving up Poland, Stalin staged a border attack on the Finns. He also annexed and invaded Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania.
The Finns joined the Germans. Mannerheim disliked both the Russians and the Germans, but Russian Bolshevism was anathema to the Finns – this goes back into deep history.
Dictator-tyrant Stalin the Murderous Victimizer made Victim by events he approved.
The fact that this guy fought for the Nazis is irrelevant. If he wanted to fight the communists, which was an entirely honorable thing to do, that was his only option.
Morally there was nothing to pick and choose between the Nazis and the communists. He was no more wrong to fight with the Nazis against the communists than we were to fight with the communists against the Nazis.
The fact that we ended up doing that wasn’t for any moral reason, it was because Hitler was foolish enough to defy his generals’ advice and declare war on us. Once we were at war with Germany it made sense to ally with the USSR. Had Stalin declared war on us instead, we would just as readily have allied with Hitler against him, and we would have been right to do so.
So I don’t get the outrage at his merely having served in that unit. The outrage he deserves is because he actually supported Hitler and his crimes, and still does to this day. As I understand it he’s been an open supporter of Hitler all this time. That’s what should have been picked up on, and should have got him disinvited to the event.
By the way, I hold no brief for this guy. I hate Ukrainians, not because they supported the Germans in WW2, but because they have a centuries-long history of killing Jews, not just during the German occupation. When they collaborated with the Germans, it wasn’t just out of opposition to the Russians, which would be understandable, it was with enthusiasm. All witness accounts say that they were more vicious than the Germans. And they came by it honestly because their parents had done the same during the Russian Civil War, and their great-great-grandparents had done the same during the 1648-49 massacres. To this day Bogdan Chmielnitzki, who was Hitler before there was a Hitler, is their national hero. So I say damn this guy and all his nation.
But that doesn’t change the fact that fighting with the Germans against the Russians was every bit as moral as doing the opposite, so despite my own feelings of antipathy I have to defend him when he’s attacked for that specific thing. It’s just not just.
And, as Gosport says, without evidence that he personally committed any crime, it would be wrong to punish him.
Nobody blames the Finns for fighting alongside the Germans against the Russians. Given their circumstances it was obviously the right choice for them to have made. On the contrary, they are admirable for having nevertheless resisted German pressure to turn on their Jewish citizens.
Likewise the Japanese, whose own atrocities were shocking, nevertheless deserve half a cheer for having resisted their German ally’s demand to round up and transport the Jews in Shanghai. They did confine stateless people, who were mostly Jews, to a ghetto; but they refused to make it about race, so Jews who had citizenship somewhere were not confined.
That’s true; I know some people who exist because their German-born ancestors found a safe refuge in Shanghai. And in that respect you might say that the US in WWII was not as welcoming as the Chinese/Japanese.