Washington Women-Only Naked Spa Forced to Accept Pre-Operation Trans Customers
A trans activist who concentrates on “Trans Healthcare Disparities” brought the lawsuit against the spa.
Seattle District Court Judge Barbara Jacobs Rothstein upheld a ruling that Olympus Spa must allow pre-operation transgender women.
Trans activist Haven Wilvich (it’s always activists, never regular people) complained to the Washington State Human Rights Commission (WSHRC) in 2020.
The dude probably does this on purpose:
Wilvich is an “activist focused on Trans Healthcare Disparities,” according to an earlier interview.
“It wasn’t until I was 25 that I began to realize that my gender and sexuality could be expressed more authentically,” said the activist.
The activist — who “grew up in a very isolated conservative Christian community” — had been married at the time, but the union ended because “she reacted very poorly and wanted me to stay closeted.”
Wilvich claims he is “more woman” than any other woman will ever be. Okay, bro.
The thing is, Olympus Spa allows transgender customers if they have gone through a penis removal operation. The Korean spa has nude areas reserved for only females. From Reduxx:
In the complaint, Wilvich alleged his application to use the facilities at the spa had been rejected after staff told him that “transgender women without surgery are not welcome because it could make other customers and staff uncomfortable.”
The Olympus Spa, which has locations in Lynnwood and Tacoma, is a Korean-style health and wellness facility. The spa requires nudity in some of the areas, and, as such, has been reserved for female clientele.
The owner of the spa, Myoon Woon Lee, and the spa’s president, Sun Lee, are of Korean heritage and modeled the spa after the tradition of jjimjilbang. They are also Christian, and cited their faith as a reason why they did not wish to accommodate males in the facility.
Sun Lee sued in response. In his lawsuit, Lee “conveyed his fear that exposing female customers (especially minors) to male genitalia could subject Olympus Spa to criminal penalties.”
Lee recounted “several” times when “customers ‘noticed male genitals exposed’ in the spa — creating ‘humiliation, trauma, and rage.'” They wanted returns and never came back.
But Lee also pointed out that the discrimination ruling discriminates against his religious convictions along with other customers:
Lee claimed that the discrimination policy “requires them to service nude males and females in the same rooms,” forcing them to “choose between violating the law or their religious convictions,” his complaint said.
One regular customer who backed the lawsuit described herself as a Christian who “believes that men and women should not be viewing each other’s naked bodies unless married to each other.”
WASHINGTON: A Korean women's spa has been forced to erase all references to "biological women" from its policies after a trans-identified male filed a human rights complaint against them.
Haven Wilvich claimed the female-only space was discriminatory.https://t.co/yuKLOY01HX
— REDUXX (@ReduxxMag) June 7, 2023
Transgender woman Haven Wilvich claimed that a Korean Spa for Women was discriminatory and launched a lawsuit. She/they won. pic.twitter.com/wwYS6asWLi
— Dr. Jebra Faushay (@JebraFaushay) June 7, 2023
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Good. Get womens’ heads out of the asses.
I predict the spa goes under over this. These angry trannies love shoving their junk in your face and humiliating women over it.
There is some misogyny in that. I think it might be motivated by envy. Perhaps because biological women can birth children or because the vast majority of men prefer biological women.
They get off on the shock value
Neurotic narcissists usually do.
Under Critical Diversity Theory (CDT), humans are interchangeable (e.g. race), exchangeable (e.g. class), disposable (e.g. abortion).
What they need to do is have a dedicated “penis day” and “non penis days”
Problem solved! “Women” with penises will be able to be included in the appropriate day (I think I just threw up in my mouth a little…)
No. No they don’t. That silly female judge needs to have her decision overturned, and fast. She also needs public shaming.
Agreed.
Best idea yet.
Best option, just close the naked room. Aside from the trans-pervert looking for some kind of thrill, who wants to walk around in a room of naked strangers anyway? Maybe it’s just me.
These sick freaks are coming after normal women.
Some of them openly advocate violence against “TERFs.” I don’t know which is more disturbing – their threats of violence, or the blind eye that social media turns towards such not-so-veiled threats.
People who advocate violence may just find some. Our society will explode soon.
OFF WITH HIS HEAD!!!! And the rest of it, too.
That behavior will likely result in finding oneself face up in the “turf.”
The trans/homosexuals, both male and female, previously came after normal boys and girls, men and women, so this is not unprecedented.
That said, feminists got abortion, albinophobes got marriage, ethnic leaders got DIE… DEI, Americans outside of Martha’s Vineyard got CAIR, and we all enjoy shared responsibility through progressive prices as labor and environmental arbitrage have a short half-life.
Isn’t it interesting that “normal women” are NOT objecting in a more organized and in-your-face manner?
Said a few times, I thing these men are claiming to be women to see women in there intimate areas,
I think it is more that they want women to see them. It’s a form of exhibitionism.
Yes, it does work both ways
Haven Wilvich claimed the female-only space was discriminatory.
On behalf of all the men turned away from women-only gyms, bars’ ladies nights, scholarships and domestic abuse shelters operating in open defiance of anti-discrimination law:
Karma’s a bitch, ladies.
I have, and will continue to have zero sympathy for the women affected by this issue until such time as the women complaining about it say, publicly, “using lawfare to force our way into mens’ exclusive spaces while retaining our own was wrong and we’re sorry”.
The chickens always come home to roost.
Not women, not ladies, certainly, but rather feminists/masculinists and social progressives.
I think the right of a person to tell another person to buzz off is a god-given right. It is time to bring back the right of freedom of association.
A lot was lost when freedom of contract and freedom of assembly was voided out by the CRA of 1964.
And no one can say we weren’t warned.
And, not just by Dixiecrats.
Having lived in Korea for an extended period of time, I am quite familiar with the cultural expectations associated with going to a jjimjilbang. Allowing mixing of the sexes like this lawsuit seeks to do would absolutely destroy the jjimjilbang.
The dude is just another jackass looking to stir up shit and force normal people to bow the knee to perversion. These people need to be locked up and the key thrown away while we still have a civilized society left.
People like this need to have their faces smashed to pulp. That usually solves the problem.
I more see it as a female judge doing the forcing. The gym told him to go away, and the judge did the compelling.
They shouldn’t have minor customers either
This is a lot like the baker in CO that refused to make a homo cake. I do believe that if the spa put up a sign that said, “No Biological Males Allowed” that would be a way to fight this ruling. In the meantime, install a siren in the pool and when Mr. long dong shows up sound the alarm and all of the women in the spa get out of the pool and get dressed. After a while, he will have no pleasure in shocking anyone and it will be boring for him.
I don’t think the siren thing would work. These people like to be disruptive and go where they are not wanted. He would hear the siren 10 times a day and think it is the sound of victory.
I think it should be the signal for – how to phrase this – women who shop at Lane Bryant to take the male into a secluded corner and hit and kick and sock the daylights out of him. Do some real damage. Damage that hurts. Not a “removal”. But – in short – beat him to a pulp.
I made a similar argument a few days ago. Why are not men doing what is required to protect women? When did chivalry die? Why does this simple problem have to be litigated? Women have a great deal of influence over men. After all, men want to get laid (sorry to be crude). Why cannot women simply tell men, “That dude is sexually harassing us.” Ass-whooping follows. No judge is required.
Erronius
If I am supposed to follow the chivalric code, then I am going to follow all of it.
Although my heart is with you, my head says lawsuit. My God, people are suing over nothing and getting away with it. In this world today with the judges we have, you not only would pay millions of dollars but may also go to jail for harming one of the protected classes. The only real end to this is to import piranhas and train them to eat penises. Put them in the pool at the spa and videotape them. Play it on the national news. Problem solved.
Not every family has men or men in proximity to step in and do the job and do it in a way that doesn’t come back at you.
This is by JBLM. There’s no shortage of former Rangers and green berets in the area that would gladly identify as a female for a few hours to make the situation uncomfortable for the offender.
Chivalry died when feminism sunk its teeth into everything.
“Haven Wilvich claimed the female-only space was discriminatory.”
Uh, yup. That’s the EFFING POINT.
The simpletons can’t seem to grasp the concept that sometimes discrimination is a good thing.
Males were compelled to lose the M in YMCA, and plenty of other male-only places have been destroyed at the whim of judges.
All of this needs to be reversed. NO one was harmed when there were places that discriminated by sex.
And, dear readers, it is SEX, not “gender”.
You are so right! There is only sex. Gender, according to the left’s own rules, is a construct, an illusion, fake. I choose to deconstruct and destroy it by pointing out that “gender” is an academic fabrication not science, not biology, not even sociology. This whole “gender” business erases all human sexuality. You can’t be homosexual because there is no fixed gender. You must have sex with “men with vaginas” because reasons. So insane. Happily, this crazy can’t stand, can’t last. It’s not just counter-factual, it’s counter-intuitive. It makes no sense on any level to anyone.
Deconstruction is fun! Like when a DA goes in for the kill with a question starting “isn’t it true that you waited for Mr.Jones and then killed him?!?”.
A sharp witness who in fact did not kill Mr. Jones answers, “Yes!”
After the gasps of the gallery and the press dashing out the door to file The Big Story, the DA replies, “Wait…! What?”
The witness then addresses the judge: “Your honor, I was asked by the district attorney, removing contractions, “It is NOT true that I waited for Mr. Jones and then killed him.” I replied that yes, i is not true. What is all the fuss about?”
It screws over the DA, and if the presses roll declaring the witness guilty because the reporters filed without all the facts, the libel suits could be lucrative.
Actually, sex is determined by gametes production. Gender is caused by the hormonal reaction to those gametes beginning in utero. There are only two gametes with no intermediaries. Two sexes, two genders.
What about operating as private club with a membership only policy which removes the aspect of public accommodation?
I guess the application process would be interesting.
No different than a private country club.
In the state of Ohio, the notion of a “private club” died with the smoking ban 20 years ago. Some of the bars became private clubs to avoid the smoking ban. But then the courts ruled that since the bars had to have occasional visits from the health department and liquor control inspectors: those establishments had to provide those inspectors with a smoke-free workplace. That rendered the private club status moot. That was some weasel lawyering. But that was Ohio and we are talking about Washington here. I can imagine Washington is far worse.
The Washington voters should enjoy the deviant fruits of what they voted for. Ta-da!
“The
WashingtonSeattle voters should enjoy the deviant fruits of what they voted for. Ta-da!”My thoughts also, although this particular issue wasn’t specifically a result of elected officials. The liberal culture permeates life in Washington, specifically Seattle with the rest of the state held hostage.
I am curious as to how the Korean Americans, and other Asian Americans, vote there. In (left- leaning) Northern Virginia it’s a mixed bag. I would have thought they would be less supportive of the Left, especially with their anti-Asian school admissions policies.
The Korean Christians I know are extremely conservative. The Korean Pres. Church is extremely conservative.
bev – aren’t you also a bit curious as to how the women generally vote there? I haven’t heard much by way of objections from Washington women. What’s up with that?
“A trans activist who concentrates on “Trans Healthcare Disparities” brought the lawsuit”
So, we’re recycling the ADA troll scam now.
“The dude probably does this on purpose”
Of course he does, even more so once he discovers he can make a pretty good living from the extortion.
Were monetary damages awarded?
Cut him some slack, he’s new at this.
He’ll grasp the con soon enough.
Get a bunch of the real women’s husbands together and forcibly “transition” them.
Did they go judge shopping?
The business is in Pierce County, how did they get it into Seattle/King County court?
Olympia School District just south of there made the news again… 2nd time in a month. (search Jason Rantz / Olympia School District)
Suggestion for a new term of membership: Anyone entering this facility with intact male genitals is forbidden. Entry constitutes de facto consent to removal of the offending genitalia.
He is a he; he is not a she/they.
Stop the madness.
I hear that the maker of “Fruit Loops” is suing for unauthorized brand appropriation..
Oh yeah? Toucan play at that game!
/ducking
Male-to-female trans are mockers of real women–and d–d eyesores to boot.
I hope the women’s club launches a contersuit, and their lawyers pick up the Washington Human Rights Commission by its collective ankles and sweep the floor with its hair.