Energy Sec. Granholm Supports Requiring Military to Adopt All-Electric Vehicle Fleet by 2030
No wonder we couldn’t execute proper plans in Afghanistan or Sudan. The military is more concerned about environmental justice.
Electrify all the things!
Energy Secretary Jennifer Granholm said she supports requiring the military to have an all-electric vehicle fleet by 2030:
ERNST: “Do you support the military adopting that EV fleet by 2030?”
GRANHOLM: “I do, and I think we can get there as well. And I do think that reducing our reliance on the volatility of globally traded fossil fuels where we know that global events such as the war in Ukraine can jack up prices for people back home does not contribute to energy security.”
Granholm added: “I think energy security is achieved when we have homegrown, clean energy that is abundant like you see in Iowa. We think we can be a leader globally in how we have become energy independent.”
Biden Energy Secretary Jennifer Granholm says she supports requiring the U.S. military to adopt an ALL-electric vehicle fleet by 2030 pic.twitter.com/pw4F3jmrpo
— RNC Research (@RNCResearch) April 26, 2023
Could you imagine?! It’s bad enough that the Department of Defense has a scorecard to keep itself accountable as it advances “environmental justice for communities across America.”
The DOD has at least 640 staff working “on environmental justice, either in a full- or part-time capacity.”
President Joe Biden has been pushing this agenda since last April. He admitted it would cost billions:
While delivering Earth Day remarks from Seward Park in Seattle, Washington, Biden said last April his administration is working to make “every vehicle” in the United States military “climate-friendly.”
“One of the things I found out as President of the United States, I get to spend a lot of that money,” Biden said at the time. “We’re going to start the process where every vehicle in the United States military, every vehicle, is going to be climate-friendly — every vehicle — I mean it.”
He added: “We’re spending billions of dollars to do it.”
No wonder we couldn’t execute proper plans in Afghanistan or Sudan. The military is more concerned about environmental justice.
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Memo for Granholm: There are damn few EV charging stations in the places where the military is likely to operate. Further, the logitistical and tactical problems created by the military bringing along its own charging capability would be nothing short of horrendous. Shucks, any means of charging would strike me as fat juicy targets for the enemy.
Would having any brains as a job requirement for a position in the Biden administration be Racist?
“Energy Secretary.”
If she didn’t check a gender box she’d be 100% unqualified.
“Minister of Truth” is closer to the mark.
Biden’s handlers want box tickers as the main qualification.
Just for spite, if I were elected president, I’d go out of my way to appoint
middle aged white mentalented and brainy people, boxes be damned.I don’t know who is making the decisions in this country, but it’s not Joe Biden. We know he has handlers and no doubt the handlers have handlers and perhaps those do as well.
Why do you think anyone with brains would want to work for that pedophile?
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Great Henry Fonda movie, Battle of the Bulge of the WWII battle where the German army ran out of fuel. They tried to get to one of our fuel depots.
How do you charge an electric tank in a battle space?
Well, you would use a diesel powered generator. I’m not sure whether that is sarcasm, but it is realistic.
I wonder how many generators would it take to charge all the vehicles in an army division.
And enough to charge them quickly enough to have an effective force. Having 3/4 of your vehicles waiting in line is not tactically sound.
That is exactly how 90 plus percent of them WILL be charged. Wonder how the much heavier vehicles will operate in sand and mud not to mention the batteries in extreme heat situations… think your phone when you accidentally leave in sun for 10 minutes…
Diesel generators pollute too much – the obvious answer is to put wind turbines on the top of each tank. They can charge themselves as they drive. Works on airplanes too although you have to make the wind turbine blades bigger than the propellers to account for losses in the system.
Now that was funny! Especially because I’ve actually heard that argument made by some of the worst idiots on the left. Good on you!
Not realistic at all, given charging times. Military vehicles need to be refueled ASAP, and electricity-based systems cannot provide this.
Not sarcastic. One of wife’s fleets experimental electric trucks ran out of charge at a store and the company had to send out a service truck towing a diesel generator to charge it enough to get it back. BTW: despite the maker claiming A 300 mile range they actually get closer to 150 miles. Stuck in traffic, hills and running A/C shortens that.
Ask nicely if the battle can be paused for a couple hours…
Make a note: singing Christmas Carols won’t work with Muslims or Chinese.
Diesel generators
Buttered toast / cat arrays
Not only that how do you think the charging stations will get their energy. That’s right, they will burn …
What, you think each vehicle dragging a 10kw generator trailer would be a problem? Obviously not a problem to Granholm (and Quid Pro Joe didn’t understand the question or the answer written for him).
If an electric tank towed a diesel generator they could run……nah
@MarkJ…Well, Ms. Granholm’s grandiose idiocy would work if – in her addled brain (seems to be a theme in this Administration) the Military embraced Tony Stark’s Arc Reactor…I mean, c’mon man, it worked in the movies.
Yeah I mean how many charging stations do you need for 1 platoon of 5 tanks and how long do they have to sit there and how far apart do they have to be. Not to even the mention the enemy knowing exactly where you need to go due to charging or if they attack just before you get to the charging stations and gee you are left with a static platform that you can no longer aim because the battery is dead.
That would imply the purpose of a military is to act on foreign soil. What you cite doesn’t matter if the Democrats see our military’s primary duty is acting domestically, which is where I think this is going. Hamstring our military’s ability to act abroad while being ever more paranoid about domestic “threats”.
One emp takes out our microprocessor-brained ev force and renders it useless as their turbine powered tanks fueled by JP-1 roll across the northern and southern borders.
Not any more than our current fleet which is hardened to resist emp; kinda sorta. The bigger issue is the sheer stupidity and arrogance in making the attempt to swap to EV. No way this works for up armored wheeled vehicles much less infantry fighting vehicles or tanks. It’s a boondoggle payoff to donors from ‘clean energy’ industry and a magic incantation to their technically illiterate supporters and voters.
Faced with two choices:
1. We are going to win wars whether it’s climate friendly or not.
2. We are going to pursue being climate friendly whether we win wars or not.
Granholm chose #2
She also plans to replace bombs, rockets, tanks, missiles and explosives with nerf guns and party poppers.
Exactly.
The good thing is when the equipment is abandoned in the next democrat surrender- the equipment won’t be used against us – because the equipment is basically worthless
We are an unserious country. What a joke.
Well, some of us are serious. This administration is worse than unserious. They are maliciously unserious.
Granholm is nuts. Going all electric is impossible. As for Brandon’s statement that it will cost billions, someone should tell him he’s off by a few zeroes. It will cost trillions, tens of trillions, and we will still not succeed. And for what? Because some watermelon climate scientists say we’re going to fry if it gets a few degrees warmer? All their models don’t work and don’t agree. If you put forth a hypothesis and the models for it don’t fit reality, you must at a minimum reject the models and most likely the hypothesis. In the meantime, we’re going to be impoverished because these brain dead nutsoes.
No model is needed; use the heat transfer equation. It is used thousands of times everyday to ensure the cars, microprocessors, and many other things don’t go into thermal runaway. The equation is rather simple. I ran it on Earth, and man-made CO2 cools the Earth (it’s cooler in the shade) by less than 1/1000th of a degree Fahrenheit. The effect lasts less than three years.
This lady is a arrogant fool. What makes it bad is she has power to destroy, and that is just what she is doing with her hair brained ideas. Not to mention she’s a cheater.
The policy itself is so dumb that it’s hardly worth addressing. What is worth addressing is her totalitarian approach to governing while pretending to care for the earth and mankind.
That was the point of planting her in that seat, wasn’t it.
Parsing the quote:
“And I do think that reducing our reliance on the volatility of globally traded fossil fuels … does not contribute to energy security.”
Seems to me that reducing our reliance DOES contribute to energy security. But that is NOT what madam secretary said. Might be what she meant but – – – – Now we are left to puzzle over what was said v. what we think she meant but didn’t say v. is the quote inaccurate??
Always interesting at the DC Clown Show.
This woman is bat-shit crazy. Literally.
That’s why they put her there.
Ok, let me know when they have a 100ton 400hp tug to move 500,000lb+ aircraft ready to go at a moments notice. I’ll wait.
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This is the leftist way. The military, like all of society, is just their play thing. Reality doesn’t matter. Common sense doesn’t apply. They just want to score the most points.
Not like all of society though. The military is a captive toy of the Admin to be played with and social engineered with at will… and can do nothing about it.
This is where the concept of civil control of the military breaks down. When the civil can’t be trusted to act for the good of the nation.
What does a lawyer know about energy, climate or the military? NOT A DAMN THING.
Jennifer Granholm epitomizes the incompetent Biden administration.
The sort of leftist who is bent on destroying America.
Destroy the world, in fact.
As others (and yourself) have pointed out, here and elsewhere, this administration isn’t incompetent. They are Hell bent on destroying the US and remaking it to suit their whims. But first they have to destroy and that is happening according to the plan, not because of incompetent errors.
You’re right. Incompetence is the wrong adjective. The destruction of the country is deliberate. Then they plan to, as the Fabian Society said, “Remould It Nearer To The Hearts Desire”.
The next step is to go back to horses and mules. Much more environmentally friendly than the mining and manufacturing to make batteries and wind turbines and cars. To encourage the move, we could institute gas rationing and electricity rationing. Instead of sending kids to college, enroll them in vocational schools to teach them to make buggies and wagons, or in animal husbandry courses.
You laugh… but it’s been computed that if we took all the cars in Maricopa County and vanished them immediately, we still couldn’t even come close to satisfying Biden’s new EPA “targets.”
Y’all gonna need to sacrifice your AC alongside the vehicles. /s ?
At first I thought Ketanji Brown Jackson was peak stupid. Then comes the proposed head of the FAA. (Preceded, of course, by the barking mad Sam Brinton). Now this. Jeez, will it never stop?
Granholm has been an idiot for a long time. Even as Gov. of MI.
Electric vehicles already have range problems, charging would be a major issue. The other thing I can think is what in the world would armor do to an ev’s range?
It’s magic. You just have to believe hard enough and everything will work out.
Actually no, this is their Religion and we need to drum it out of government and public life as ruthlessly as they drove Christianity out.
Imagine the size of the battery needed for an armored vehicle and the size of the fire it would create – just add a few bullet holes and some water.
Another look at ice bullets?
I’m still laughing at the utter stupidity of this declaration by Jennifer Granholm. In 2021, 60 percent of the CO2 produced by the DoD came from vehicles and the Army alone operates about 225,000 vehicles that use fossil fuel. While the Army might succeed in making jeeps electric by 2030, there is no possibility they will have deployed electric armored vehicles in that timeframe.
Even if they could get the technology to work, the design cycle for armored vehicles is way longer than 10 years these days. And, in fact, in 2021, the U.S. Army actually said that the larger armored vehicles, like tanks, would not be going electric “anytime soon”. Especially since the existing armored force has a lifespan that extends out to 2050.
Of course, maybe the woke idiots in charge of the DoE and DoD will decide to scrap all those vehicles … or give them to the Ukraine. What’s that expression? Haste makes waste? God save this country from leftists.
Armored vehicles will turn electric when one precondition is in place:
small, portable, safe(ish), fusion.
Yes, and we’re a LONG way from fusion. Right now almost all the the money is going into the development of very large power plants (boondoggles) that the UNIPARTY thinks they can use to control us. Last thing in the world they want is for us to be able to get off the grid using “small, portable, safe(ish) fusion.” ;
IN other words, a Bolo.
Insane morons disconnected from reality.
What the hell do they think is going to power the generators to charge the vehicles.
All this does is move the same amount of fuel to generators and adds in a massive burden of logistics and additional failure point on military vehicles.
Likely more fuel. Converting to electricity, then to motion has inefficiencies involved that fuel-to-motion might not.
The extra added weight alone would make transporting an EV fleet for deployment unworkable/impractical/near impossible,
Yeah … and wait until a lithium battery in a main battle tank spontaneously catches fire while being transported … or on the battle field and ignites all the ammunition that’s onboard.
Doesn’t have to be a MBT. How about a deuce-and-a-half? You know, one carrying ammunition toward the front?
Indeed.
The Abrams M-1 tank uses a jet engine for its power because it is half the weight of a diesel engine that has nowhere near comparable power. The tank weighs bout 68 tons with this jet engine. Can anyone imagine what it would weigh with a load of batteries and two big electric motors? This woman is about as smart as the one who just got to the SCOTUS and couldn’t define what a woman was. Of course, there is the man in charge of the ATF who couldn’t tell Congress what an assault rifle was. But wait, there’s more! We have a POTUS who cannot tell where he is at any moment and needs a picture prompter card to call on reporters with the question preapproved along with his answers. If I was writing a novel and put this kind of unbelievable crap in it no one would buy it.
GRANHOLM: “I do, and I think we can get there as well. And I do think that reducing our reliance on the volatility of globally traded fossil fuels where we know that global events such as the war in Ukraine can jack up prices for people back home does not contribute to energy security.”
LOL. I didn’t realize that we rely on volatility … and the war in Ukraine did nothing to affect oil and gas prices, it was the insane sanctions and Traitor Joe blowing up the NordStream pipeline that jacked up the prices. None of which really hurt the Russians too badly.
How many carbon credits did Traitor Joe have to buy to cover blowing up a huge gas pipeline? That must have been a doozy. 5,000 of those new armed IRS agents will be on the task force to expropriate that cost from American families.
This nation is really in bad, bad shape. There has never been a society on Earth as completely insane and demented as the Western leftists of today – and that’s really saying something. And what’s with all these insane Canadians helping to run us into the ground?
“This nation is really in bad, bad shape.”
We have pushed the self-destruct button.
“it was the insane sanctions and Traitor Joe blowing up the NordStream pipeline that jacked up the prices.”
Did you mean Keystone? Because gas prices were insane before the first shot was fired in Ukraine, and NordStream wasn’t bombed until well afterward.
Very true … along with essentially ceasing new drilling on public lands and offshore and placing onerous regulations and rules on oil companies while constantly threatening their future business … Traitor Joe and the left has been in full battle mode against American energy (and America).
The whole military should be switched over to using nothing but Segways by 2030. It’s the transportation of the future, I’ve been told by geniuses.
Bikes are faster.
The Green blight is a forward-looking environmental hazard. The military should either use hand powered tools (e.g. scalpels) to abort their targets or sequester in place. Oh, and female soldiers should be groomed to reduce “excess” carbon.
She is truly an idiot and needs to stay in her lane.
This is environmental madness
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The 2027/2035 goal is for electric non-tactical vehicles.
The 2050 goal is for electric tactical vehicles. But armored vehicles are not mentioned.
And it’s still stupid squared.
If they were talking about armored vehicles it would be stupid factorial.
I hope there are lots of people in the Pentagon who see this “plan” as merely something to mollify the congress critters and enviro-bureaucrats until America regains its sanity.
(Hey, I can hope, can’t I?)
where we know that global events such as the war in Ukraine can jack up prices for people back home
You mean, like the Middle East? You know, where we had a couple of wars going on for 2 decades? And what did that do to our gas prices?
And, of course, the fact that Ukraine did nothing to our gas prices that we didn’t self-inflict (by cutting our own production).
I think energy security is achieved when we have homegrown…
Well, we had that.
(Oh, and how much of our solar and wind equipment is actually fully sourced in America? I’ll go out on a limb and say “None.” So that won’t be happening, either.)
clean energy that is abundant like you see in Iowa
There’s abundant energy in Iowa, that comes entirely from wind and solar? Would anyone in Iowa agree with that assessment?
We think we can be a leader globally in how we have become energy independent.
Well, we were. Then we stopped pulling our own energy out of our ground and… PFFT! Now we rely on other people for our energy.
“There’s abundant energy in Iowa, that comes entirely from wind and solar? Would anyone in Iowa agree with that assessment?”
She’s talking about the fields of corn that we used to use to keep people and animals healthy, not convert into low-quality fuel.
I read my retired military husband just the title if this post. His reply: “Oh. Good. God.”
Yesterday at work I saw the paper with the headline about Biden planning to run again and said good lord. The little old lady purchasing the paper said she was so happy he was going to run again since he was doing such a good job. I bit my tongue hard so I wouldn’t suggest she was as senile as he was.
When the time comes to lawfully execute traitors found guilty of treason by a jury of their peers, it is imperative that the means of execution be the electric chair.
Solar or wind powered, I trust?
I know I’ve seen a semi-funny skit about that, showing the one guy looking out the window at the clouds in the sky and telling the guy at the switch, “Wait for it… no, dangit… waiiiiit… OK, now!”
Oh please stop this shit. When you write idiotic things like this, which aren’t in the same universe as actual treason, you make all conservatives look stupid by extension.
The original EDISON electric chair.
With witless and dim-witted Dumb-o-crats such as the vile and stupid Granholm, there is no need for the transparently malevolent and belligerent Chinese communist regime to spend money and effort bribing American officials. The moronic Dumb-o-crats will do the ChiComs’ bidding, for free.
A battery that can store enough power for a 2500lb mid-size car to go 300 miles weighs a 1,000 lbs. An Abrams weighs 73 tons (146,000 lbs).
Scale that up. You’re dragging a battery that’s going to have come in at 60,000lbs to have any range at all and the tank will be towing something the size of a box truck.
Battery range and recharge time are problems even for a cargo truck or unarmored Humvee. (The linked report does not mention armored vehicles.
Reality check wanted:
I hear that it is standard practice to replace the battery when a Tesla or Chevy Volt is in any collision more serious than a fender bender. Because of concerns about invisible damage to the battery which could render it very unsafe.
So, what about the punishment that military vehicles suffer routinely?
Knowing these woke idiots, they’ll just reduce the armor and gun size, and put in less ammunition, to keep the weight the same. Then given it to the *next* Ukraine.
It’s not that the idea is so incredibly stupid, and it’s not that Granholm supports it (which is even stupider), but that she has an entire *staff* who put this together and not one of them *told* her how stupid it was, let alone having the whole staff get together as a group and make her see reason.
This woman is a certified BUFFOON.
Either a buffoon, or a Leftist who hates the United States.
Ever notice how the federal government doesn’t virtue signal and commit to going all electric vehicles for all federal agencies, especially law enforcement?
Why is that, do you suppose.
I am sure we could power all the vehicles with Unicorn farts that environmentally sound.
These Leftists hate this Country so much that they will do anything and everything to destroy it. Do they really believe that the CCP will give them a place of power for destroying the Country, instead of taking them to the walls and summarily executing them? The latter is what totalitarians historically do to the traitors that hand them a country.
She just proves how stupid she is. How does she expect the military to fight all day then pull Night Ops with vehicles that can’t run in the dark? Are there charging stations on the battlefield? Does she not think that any enemy worth something won’t hit the charging stations first and roll over everything?
Heck, wife’s company got an electric yard truck to move trailers in the DC. Got a call yesterday from the leasing company to shut it down immediately. They detected a fault code that could lead to a short causing 350,000 Volts to course into the frame. What does that ditz think bombs going off will do compared to driving around a parking lot?
Three hundred fifty thousand volts? That can’t be.
So just how long does it take to charge an Abrams tank?
Depends on how fast your credit card transaction goes through.