Kevin McCarthy Loses Six Rounds of Voting (Updated)
How many rounds will they go?
End of Six Rounds
Three rounds took place this afternoon. The rounds all ended the same.
U.S. House Speaker Election
Sixth Ballot Result:Kevin McCarthy – 201
Hakeem Jeffries – 212
Byron Donalds – 20
Others – 0
Present – 1 #118thCongresshttps://t.co/uM3YASrHaB pic.twitter.com/yHDSM7fksW— CSPAN (@cspan) January 4, 2023
UPDATE 3:42 PM: McCarthy loses the sixth round after the fifth vote was cast for Donalds.
UPDATE 3:16 PM: Sixth round starts.
Rep. Kat Cammack nominates…Kevin McCarthy.
.@RepKatCammack nominates @GOPLeader Kevin McCarthy for speaker.
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— CSPAN (@cspan) January 4, 2023
Democrats with Jeffries….again.
.@RepPeteAguilar nominates @Repjeffries for Speaker.
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— CSPAN (@cspan) January 4, 2023
Rep. Scott Perry nominates…Rep. Byron Donalds.
.@RepScottPerry nominates @RepDonaldsPress for Speaker.
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— CSPAN (@cspan) January 4, 2023
UPDATE 2:41 PM: Final tally of the fifth round.
U.S. House Speaker Election
Fifth Ballot Result:@GOPLeader – 201@RepJeffries – 212@RepDonaldsPress – 20
Others – 0
Present – 1 #118thCongresshttps://t.co/uM3YASrHaB pic.twitter.com/MqZA92I9uF— CSPAN (@cspan) January 4, 2023
UPDATE 2:20 PM: Rep. Spartz explains her present vote.
B) Spartz: That’s why I voted present after all votes were cast.
— Chad Pergram (@ChadPergram) January 4, 2023
UPDATE 2:00 PM: McCarthy loses the fifth round after the fifth vote for Donalds was cast.
UPDATE 1:43 PM: The fifth round starts again.
Rep. William Davidson nominates Kevin McCarthy. Rep. Lauren Boebart nominates Rep. Byron Donalds. Democrats nominate Hakeen Jeffries.
Rep. @WarrenDavidson nominates @GOPLeader Kevin McCarthy for Speaker.
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— CSPAN (@cspan) January 4, 2023
.@RepBoebert nominates Rep. Byron Donalds (R-FL) for Speaker.
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— CSPAN (@cspan) January 4, 2023
.@RepPeteAguilar nominates @Repjeffries for Speaker.
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— CSPAN (@cspan) January 4, 2023
UPDATE 1:17 PM: 20 voted for Byron Donalds. Rep. Victoria Spartz voted present.
Unofficial Speaker total from 4th vote:
Jeffries 212
McCarthy 201
Donalds 20
Present 1 (Spartz)— Chad Pergram (@ChadPergram) January 4, 2023
UPDATE (by WAJ) 12:40 p.m. Eastern — Already there are 8 Republican votes for someone other than McCarthy, so he can’t be elected on this 4th Round. Byron Donalds voted for himself.
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You need 218 votes to become Speaker of the House. Rep. Kevin McCarthy failed on Tuesday, with 19 to 20 Republicans defecting to Rep. Jim Jordan.
The 212 Democrats united behind election denier Rep. Hakeem Jeffries.
Round four starts at 12 PM ET. However! The House could adjourn at that time to give more time for negotiations:
House Republican leader Kevin McCarthy has dispatched several emissaries to help find a deal with his foes and present their demands to the rest of the House GOP Conference.
It’s possible that the House may adjourn at noon to allow the talks to continue for the rest of the day, according to a GOP source familiar with the matter. That decision has not been made yet. But McCarthy cannot afford to lose more Republican votes on the fourth ballot, something his allies fear will sink his bid.
Rep. Patrick McHenry, a McCarthy emissary, foreshadowed this last night when he told CNN that more time may be needed.
There needs to be “a clear understanding” about what the offers were made going into Tuesday, McHenry said, adding that “we have to have a wider group of members understand what the tradeoffs are, what they look like, and the opportunity for the conference to come to terms with getting the 20 on board.”
“So this is a this is a longer process of negotiation than just a narrow group, talking to a person,” he said.
The House will continue to be paralyzed until the standoff is resolved.
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According to Manu Raju, they do not have the votes to adjourn so McCarthy must face dereat again
Glimmer of hope. You don’t see D’s putting “moderates” in their leadership positions…. If we keep doing things the same, we shouldn’t expect different results.
Lol.what do you think Pelosi was? To Dems she was moderate.
You’re absolutely right. A fascist, but ‘moderate’ compared to the democrat communists in Congress.
There was no Squardand the Party hadn’t swung that far left when she was first named. Political pundits were writing that the Party was crazy to have nominated someone as wacko as Pelosi.
Here we go again. McHenry’s comments brought out another angle to McCarthy’s problem: If he starts to cede ground to the opposition, could that cause him to lose votes from the “moderate” faction of the caucus?
There are no moderates, there are conservatives and globalists
Glib, but inaccurate. There are also quite a few libertarians who were elected as Republicans.
Hardly Glib, you just can’t help yourself, I expect such comments from you, even with some a neutral comment.
Thanks for not disappointing
Silly girl.
There are only globalists anymore.
“The House will continue to be paralyzed until the standoff is resolved”
I like the sound of that. Better yet, adjourn and go home.
If McCarthy wasn’t just out for himself he would step down.
He can’t step down now. He’s already moved into the Speaker’s Office and he claims possession is 9/10 of the law.
Two Men and a Truck can solve that problem.
Too high class for that putz.
10 day laborers from a Home Depot parking lot is what he deserves.
Time for a new decorator anyway.
The carpet doesn’t match the drapes.
McCarthy right now: “Glad I didn’t open the moving boxes.”
Bingo!!! If I had a cigar, I would give it to you.
It the Democrats would prefer McCarthy over a more conservative Speaker, some of them will have to change their vote and get him elected.
not even 1/3 through the fourth round McCarthy will not win
Do the math. McCarthy needs to step back he has no path to win.
Unless some of the Dems switch their vote from Hakeem.
Why would the d/prog or the 20 current r members opposed to McCarthy vote to adjourn instead of holding the vote? Both groups probably like the idea of McCarthy twisting in the wind and being treated like a pinata.
IMO, this episode shows exactly why McCarthy shouldn’t become Speaker. He had several months to whip the votes and broker the deals necessary to achieve a fist ballot victory. Instead he seems to have ignored the real demands over meaningful changes, primarily on the rules committee composition, to ensure he couldn’t backslide. Instead he was measuring the windows in the Speakers office for drapes before securing election; McCarthy’s priorities were/are badly skewed, don’t hold the celebration nor try on the trappings of office until you win.
Kevin McCarthy ‘The Fighting Moderate’.
Lol
Thank you. I needed that.
Kevin. Take the hint!
He can’t. His sense of entitlement is too strong.
I attended a high school full of those.
This headline gave me my laugh for the day.
So, McCarthy loses one more vote. Meanwhile, Fox’s camera is focused on Rep Donalds being strong-armed by a Rep I don’t know by sight.
Per Fox, that’s apparently the new whip, Rep. Emmer.
I can’t help but wonder if McCarthy fought for populist Republicans the same way he fights for the speakership he would already be Speaker.
He wasn’t expecting this strong of a push back,
Did he withhold moneys like McConnell of republicans, especially MAGA?
He never fought like a war consigliere against the Democrats, he should have been out everywhere, everyday screaming at the top of his lungs against the radical issues, the boarders, fiscal criminality
He’s useless and I’m disappointed that President Trump STILL backs him
The punchline is that McConnell was the main bankroller of Trump’s candidates; for example J.D. Vance was mainly funded by Mitch McConnell’s pac.
Could you stop making harmful myths?
By the way what money are you suggesting McCarthy withheld?
That’s just simply untrue,
OpenSecrets.org
Thiel has poured at least $13.5 million into Protect Ohio Values, a pro-Vance super PAC almost entirely funded by the inventor or groups tied to Thiel. He donated $10 million to Protect Ohio Values in March 2021, and Per Aspera Policy, a “dark money” group tied to Thiel, also donated $200,000 earlier this year. Thiel made headlines this week with an additional $3.5 million donation after Trump endorsed Vance
Yea, Mitch gave him 5 K. Ok.
J D Vance (R)
Contributor Total
Chemed Corp $27,100
John Stock & Assoc $23,600
Kaivac Inc $20,145
Energy Transfer LP $19,446
Kirkland & Ellis $18,950
Blackstone Group $17,105
Baker & Hostetler $16,920
Vitol SA $16,200
Netherland Rubber $15,000
Trihealth Inc $14,565
Hunt Companies $14,500
Walter Oil & Gas $14,108
JPMorgan Chase & Co $13,690
Benson Mineral Group $13,600
Townsend Corp $13,000
West Ohio Dermatology $11,725
Wampold Companies $11,600
Valmore Gp $11,600
Bobby Cox Companies $11,600
Duchossois Group $11,600
Mitch’s BlueGrass Pac
John Boozman (R-Ark) $10,000
Mike Crapo (R-Idaho) $10,000
John Hoeven (R-ND) $10,000
Ron Johnson (R-Wis) $10,000
John Kennedy (R-La) $10,000
James Lankford (R-Okla) $10,000
Adam Laxalt (R-Nev) $10,000
Blake Masters (R-Ariz) $10,000
Markwayne Mullin (R-Okla) $10,000
Lisa Murkowski (R-Alaska) $10,000
Joe O’Dea (R-Colo) $10,000
Rand Paul (R-Ky) $10,000
Tim Scott (R-SC) $10,000
John Thune (R-SD) $10,000
Herschel Walker (R-Ga) $10,000
Todd Young (R-Ind) $10,000
Katie Britt (R-Ala) $5,000
Ted Budd (R-NC) $5,000
Richard Burr (R-NC) $5,000
Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) $5,000
Mike Lee (R-Utah) $5,000
Cynthia Lummis (R-Wyo) $5,000
Jerry Moran (R-Kan) $5,000
Christina Nolan (R-Vt) $5,000
Marco Rubio (R-Fla) $5,000
Tiffany Smiley (R-Wash) $5,000
J D Vance (R-Ohio) $5,000
Who knows this Representative from Florida Black congressman, Trump endorsed
Got all 20 votes for Speaker
https://www.insidernj.com/kean-listens-intently-as-roy-changes-course-with-donalds/
Freshman last Congress. Seems pretty based to me. Sparing with usual suspects list of d/prog who get the vapers when he calls them captive to the plantation. He is a placeholder for the opposition but is putting himself at risk of damage by the establishment for doing so.
I can’t help but notice that one name keeps popping up – Scalise – but sort of behind the hand. Could be nobody wants to actually throw his name into the nominating pot until such time as both sides admit that they’re not going to budge and start looking for a Ryan.
Thing I wonder is, how long did the Omnibus bill fund the government for? I was thinking it was summer or something nuts like that.
In that context, I’m not sure what we gain by having any speaker of the house before then? It’s not like the government is going to shut down, and its not like they’ll pass anything we’d really want to see put into law, is it?
At this point, I don’t think he has any leverage to force this to a close, and with Crenshaw’s threats, I think they chucked all the carrots too.
The omnibus bill lass until the end of the budget year which is the end of September, the next big issue they face is raising the debt ceiling. It is being reported as early 2023, but there is no projected date at this time.
Apprently McCarthy wants to win in the worst possible way. He is now negotiating with Democrats.
Oh no, hope the entire republicans vote against him to prevent this
Victoria Spartz, a past McCarthy supporter who voted ‘present’ on the fourth ballot, told us she did so because she wanted to allow for more negotiations within the conference to address the concerns of the 20 members. She gave McCarthy a headsup ahead of time (Twitter)
Hakeem Jeffries? At least there’d be some comedic value.
We got that with bien, kamaltoes, Fetterman already
Biden I really hate autocorrect
An autocorrect that prefers French is only one step from Skynet.
Paralysis sounds awesome in this case. If the corrupt pieces of garbage can’t seat a speaker then they can’t vote to waste more money we don’t have and they can’t vote to further destroy the freedoms we still have left.
Sounds great to me.
McCarthy is refusing to do anything meaningful we want anyway, and if the House is paralyzed the RINOs can’t sell us out for whatever crap the Democrats pass out of the Senate.
I’ll take 130 more votes, thanks. We can totally beat that 1856 record of 133 votes over 2 months!
McCarthy does not have the votes/ He will not get the votes because those voting against him know that if he wins they have placed their heads on the chopping block.
So McCarthy’s ‘plan’ was apparently…. show up and hope they suddenly changed their minds?
Seriously what kind of moron is he.
This isn’t a shock, he isn’t being betrayed by promised supporters, he KNEW going into this that he didn’t have the votes, and he just moronically decided that they didn’t REALLY mean it and they’d just vote for him without having to give anything up.
Its precisely this kind of stupid, WEAK ‘leadership’ that demonstrates McCarthy is unsuited to be Speaker.
This is not complicated stuff here. There are precisely THREE very simple options on the table:
1) You give the holdouts what they want and get their votes
2) You negotiate with Democrats to be Speaker for 2 years and then never hold a position of political authority ever again
3) Somebody else wins, either through McCarthy stepping down or the GOPe finally telling him to sit down and shut up and nominating somebody else.
The problem is that they do not trust McCarthy to keep his promises.
That would certainly be an issue – but McCarthy isn’t even willing to MAKE the promises in the first place!
This whole saga just confirms that McCarthy is a piss-poor political leader and negotiator and is absolutely NOT the right person to lead a House with a razor-thin margin.
The beatings will continue until morale improves.
It’s good to me a fight for Speaker, Democrats all cave to jump into line behind there leader.
Perhaps there is someone they can nominate from the outside to be speaker? Though it would be hard to say who would be agreeable to everyone.
I’m willing to give it a try. I know virtually nothing about the job. I can’t do any more damage than that bunch of clowns.
You can probably swing a gavel two, three times heavier than any of those wimps.
I’d vote for you in a heartbeat
I say bing in Devin Nunes.
Let not forget him stomping his feet on the Jan. 6th committee.
Blow it up. Nominate AOC for it. Really mess with their minds. Or maybe Nancy. That would be fun and send a message to Kevin.
If the Rs want to expand their appeal, this does the opposite.
OK, we have a deadlock. Thad_the-Man has part of it.
1) McCarthy becomes speaker because the opposition gives up.
2) McCarthy becomes speaker because he openly cuts a deal with the Democrats.
3) McCarthy does not become speaker because the Nomenklatura makes him stand down and someone else becomes speaker with theirs and the Democrats’ approval. I do not rule out that the GOPe comes up with a deal to install a Democrat as speaker.
So what happens? We have to remember that none of this would be happening if it was against the will of the Nomenklatura. What will they do in any of these cases?
You have to realize the level of contempt the GOPe has for country, Constitution, and their own voters. If case one occurs, both McCarthy and the Nomenklatura will devote their main efforts at revenge against anyone who did not vote for McCarthy from the first vote. Their collaboration with the Democrats will be secondary but very much there. Functionally, all those who did not vote for McCarthy [and maybe whoever “stops clapping first”] will be purged and functionally not be part of the Republican Party. Which functionally gives the Democrats a majority which pleases the GOPe.
If case 2 takes place, they cannot even pretend that the Republicans are an opposition to the Democrats in any way. The revenge and purges will take place as listed, and those purged will, if they have half a lick of sense, be organizing for some very unpleasant times that will not be electoral.
If case 3 comes to pass, once again revenge will be the prime motivator for the Nomenklatura.
This series of votes, and whoever is installed, means that the fake two-party system is gone, Since elections are fraudulent anyway, there is now and will not be consent of the governed anymore. And everybody’s dance card is full. Game playing is about over.
Subotai Bahadur