IRS Criminal Investigation Special Agent Job Posting: ‘Carry a Firearm and be Willing to Use Deadly Force, if Necessary’
“Be willing and able to participate in arrests, execution of search warrants, and other dangerous assignments.”
The Inflation “Reduction” Act includes hiring 87,000 new IRS agents, doubling the agency’s size.
Did you know the IRS has a Criminal Investigation unit? It’s the law enforcement branch of the Internal “Revenue” Service. (“Revenue” is in quotes because taxation is theft. They’re taking our money.)
The branch is not new. IRS Commissioner Daniel C. Roper created the unit in 1919.
But now that we know we’ll have a lot more IRS agents, we should pay closer attention to the agency. Let’s look at a job posting!
The IRS is hiring new special agents!
Requirements include working min “50 hours per week, which may include irregular hours, and be on-call 24/7, including holidays and weekends” and “Carry a firearm and be willing to use deadly force, if necessary.”https://t.co/uvwbrAkIit pic.twitter.com/z0aVX6uoMr
— Ford Fischer (@FordFischer) August 10, 2022
“Carry a firearm and be willing to use deadly force, if necessary.”
“Be willing and able to participate in arrests, execution of search warrants, and other dangerous assignments.”
What.
Criminal Investigation (CI) is the law enforcement branch of the IRS. Our mission is to serve the American public by investigating potential criminal violations of the Internal Revenue Code, and related financial crimes, in a manner that fosters confidence in the tax system and compliance with the law.
As a Special Agent you will combine your accounting skills with law enforcement skills to investigate financial crimes. Special Agents are duly sworn law enforcement officers who are trained to “follow the money.” No matter what the source, all income earned, both legal and illegal, has the potential of becoming involved in crimes which fall within the investigative jurisdiction of the IRS Criminal Investigation. Because of the expertise required to conduct these complex financial investigations, IRS Special Agents are considered the premier financial investigators for the Federal government.
They want to investigate in a way that “fosters confidence in the tax system and compliance with the law.”
Yeah, nothing will do that more than knocking down a door and pointing a gun at someone.
Even your legally obtained income “has the potential of becoming involved in crimes which fall within the investigative jurisdiction” of this branch.
Special agent basic training takes six months to complete. Six months!
Plus, this job “offers special pay initiatives not offered with other IRS positions.”
If that didn’t scare you enough, VerifyThis.com confirmed the IRS spent almost $700,000 in ammunition in early 2022:
The order was for the IRS Criminal Investigation (IRS-CI) division, which is a federal law enforcement agency that conducts criminal investigations including tax violations, money laundering, cyber crimes, and organized crime involving drugs and gangs. There are more than 2,000 sworn special agents in the division.
“Many of these cases are typically worked in conjunction with other state and federal law enforcement agencies. IRS-CI special agents have been carrying firearms throughout the more than 100-year history of the agency, and have found themselves dealing with some of the most dangerous criminals,” an IRS spokesperson told VERIFY.
I hope this woman is being sarcastic
These type of agents focus on investigating the tax violations of those involved in serious criminal activities, such as money laundering, drug trafficking & organized crime. Not the average citizen.https://t.co/Hj473SqB3k
— Trish Townsend (@TrishTownsend19) August 10, 2022
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“Honesty and Integrity”.
They’re joking, right?
The ATF wants to know if they can attend their dog shooting class.
Do they still offer the one on women and kid burning?
All the agents want to attend the shooting unarmed women class. Taught by Lon Horiguichi and Michael Byrd—both experienced in murdering unarmed women.
Lois Lerner approves.
The FBI just bought a shedload of Hollow Point ammunition.
Yet the irs is indeed busting down doors and arresting citizens with its own “swat teams.” It has stockpiled 4,500 guns and 5 million rounds of ammunition for this purpose, and it’s not the only federal agency doing so.
Recall back in 2012 when the Social Security Administration bought 174,000 rounds of .357 hollow point for their 295 special agents. Preparing for war on double dipping grannies?
Or the 45,000 rounds bought for the National Weather Service. Bulking up for that fight against climate change I suppose. (Yeah, it was a typo in the appropriation data but it made it through the approval process before it was caught).
At this point there are 70+ federal agencies with armed agents. With the addition of this massive IRS force their total strength rivals that of the USMC.
The USSR’s internal agencies all had their private enforcement “armies”. Name one agency in the US government without some form of armed branch. If you can… then they will be arming up soon. NOAA? Climate Change Warriors!! NASA? Hum…. who runs their security and how armed? Remember the movie “Brazil”?
Coincidentally, so did I.
I am a CPA , though I have never dealt with the CID , since I dont have that type of client base.
That being said, most of the IRS agents I work with are good with in house procedure issues, (when you can get them to actually work) .
very few of the IRS agents I have worked with actually know the tax law to perform their work. Even at the appeals division level, the actual knowledge of the internal revenue code and applicable case law is very low.
the actual knowledge of the internal revenue code and applicable case law is very low.
You want another reason (than the Wuhan Flu debacle) for why we no longer want the ‘experts’ to rule us? Here it is. We’ve known for a very long time that the folks employed by the IRS don’t know much of diddly about the ins and outs of the whole reason they have their job.
You want Rule Of Law? You should probably make sure the law enforcement ‘experts’ know what the law is.
Well, let’s be fair. The reason they don’t know the tax law is because the tax law is unknowable. It is not only longer than 30 bibles, it is internally inconsistent.
One of Robert Heinlein’s more overlooked works is a 1948 juvenile title, “Space Cadet.” In the first chapter, our young hero is taking an entrance exam that involves using two buttons to correctly control a mechanism whose feedback indicators consist of two colored lights and two “gates.” He is told to read and understand the posted operating instructions, then pull a separate lever which starts a two-minute testing period. We learn that any applicant who pulls the lever flunks out, because there is no combination of lights and gates that allows for any correct response whatsoever.
And this is how the tax code works. As long as you send the government what they consider “enough money,” no one will refer to the operating instructions. The minute you don’t (or the minute you need to be punished for some other count of lese majeste to any other part of the government), a codicil will be found somewhere in those instructions requiring you to send in more money.
Indeed. Which is the best argument for a much simplified code approaching as close to possible a single flat tax rate. More likely is far lower rates based on quintile for the bottom 60% then decile until 90% then advancing by 3% till 99% and a final rate for the top 1%.
Add in a real universal AMT and a universal filing requirement. File biannual each Fiscal year so the first filing is end of March and the second is due end of September…. before the elections just for perspective on candidate X plan to spend more tax dollars on Y program.
Then an audit is much less about compliance with arcane rules and far more about strait forward mathematics and honesty. No IRS agent needs to be armed. Call in the local Sheriff if needed, assuming they will agree to assist, if not work on your people skills and suck it up.
They are glorified collection agents.
They are white-collar brownshirts. A peculiarly American innovation.
I believe “bounty hunters” is the phrase you’re looking for.
You misspelled “shakedown artists.”
All taxation is not theft. As a recovering libertarian I would agree that taxation beyond the costs to support the limited amount of federal government functions outlined at our founding just might be in that category.
Fûck that bullshit. Every IRS employee is now part of the N A Z I regime.
Any self respecting person who works for the Gestapo needs to resign immediately in protest
There is absolutely NO reason why an IRS employee needs a gun, let alone the desire to murder US Citizens.
And it makes you wonder where they will get another 87k of personnel that can be functionally competent .
They are building a new political police/army under the guise of the IRS.
It has been in the making for some time, as evidenced by the purchases of weapons and ammo.
And you can be sure it’s not Hunter Biden or Al Sharpton they will be going after, “willing to use deadly force.”
R.I.P. America.
If all you are only after is tax money why do you need to be armed?
Because some of the people who are hiding their income and not paying taxes are often armed, and not inclined to just let an inspector waltz in and do an audit of their operation, rifle through their books, etc. Do you think Al Capone cooperated fully and voluntarily with his tax auditors, and went quietly when they arrested him for not reporting his illegal income?!
Why now? What has changed?
The bill to hire more agents has only passed the Senate, not the House, not signed by Biden. So this employment notice has nothing to do with the 87000 new agents. Like every other business and law enforcement agency they are short people and looking for more.
“The bill to hire more agents has only passed the Senate, not the House…”
You’re kidding, right? The House that is 100% controlled by Biden and his cronies????
Please tell me you’re kidding. Otherwise it means you’re stupid and, well… You’re stupid.
ttucker is right, and you’re the idiot. It doesn’t matter how certain the bill is to become law it isn’t law yet. So they are not advertising those jobs yet.
Who said anything has changed? This is just a regular ad for a position doing exactly what the IRS has been doing for over a century.
You’d think that would be the purview of law enforcement.
Usually when somebody owes money, they do things like hire a collection agency b or file suit to get the money. They don’t go in like a bunch of armed thugs.
There is no reason for the IRS to have firearms. Period.
+10000
Ask for cooperation from local Sheriff but understand the point here is to put the feds in the position of needing and depending upon that local cooperation. PO the locals and they may leave the feds sucking hind tit.
The IRS is law enforcement, and always has been. As this post points out, they’ve had this division since 1917. Nothing at all has changed.
The FBI went after Al Capone. If someone refuses a tax audit we’ve got FBI, federal marshals, or Secret Service who can be sent after them.
The last thing we need is another federal secret police force controlled by an agency with a record of corruption and disfunction.
This isn’t “another” federal secret police force. It’s a federal police force that has been operating openly and not at all secretly for over a century. That’s almost as long as the FBI has existed. Why should the IRS suddenly give it up and start outsourcing its enforcement?
There is simply nothing new or surprising about this ad.
Milhouse… ah… nail (any size)… hammer (Feds). Oh.. I forgot…the LAW is always on the side of the innocent.
You’re an idiot. Who said anything about the law being on the side of the innocent?
The point is simply that there’s nothing surprising about the IRS having an enforcement division. It’s always done so. 2smartforlibs asked why the IRS needs guns and I answered him. That’s all. You all don’t seem to like the answer.
No matter how you organize government, and no matter how honest it is, it will have to raise revenue somehow, and there will be people who try to evade paying it, so the tax collectors will have to be armed.
aKcHuAlLy, taxation is extortion, not theft.
Regardless, when men with guns show up at your door to throw you in jail and confiscate your property for deliquent taxes, it is anything but ‘investing in America’s future.’
My stock broker has never held a gun to my head…
If you had any lingering delusions it was in any way shape or form a good idea to let the Democrats have the senate by pretending the 2020 election was ongoing (at the expense of TWO Georgia senate seats) you are truly an idiot.
The Jan 5th elections had extremely high consequences.
Never let anyone convince you to help Democrats win elections again.
“Never let anyone convince you to help Democrats win elections again….”
Then why are you posting?
Let me ask you why you are defending yourself having helped hand over Georgia to the Democrats in the Jan 5th elections?
If you and others had not worked to depress Republican turnout this IRS expansion simply wouldn’t be happening.
You should be ashamed of yourself instead of going on the offensive. I unlike you was against handing Georgia over to the Democrats.
Ah yes… if no one complained about election fraud in Georgia in November 2020, those who had perpetrated the fraud would have been extraordinarily kind to those who refrained from complaining and would have considerately refrained from committing election fraud in Georgia in January 2021.
It didn’t make sense then and it doesn’t make any more sense now.
There is great concern about the constant creation of problems/threats due to our government so that the government can increase it’s size in order to respond to the problem/threat. Regardless, the notion that we the people need to throw the baby out with the bathwater is jumping the shark a bit.
The history of the legislature allowing the K Street bandits who are beholding to their donors/clientele to write obscure and self indulging laws is where the problem lies.
Figure that with large organizations such as government and multinational companies, the idea of constraining growth is antithetical to their success is only visible through our “growth” goals.
“Regardless, the notion that we the people need to throw the baby out with the bathwater is jumping the shark a bit. The history of the legislature allowing the K Street bandits who are beholding to their donors/clientele to write obscure and self indulging laws is where the problem lies.”
Tolkien’s entire message to humanity was that the solution to a Ring of Power was not to “make sure the Ring stays in the ‘right hands.'” There are no “right hands.” The only solution, in any society, is to destroy the Ring.
Neither Tolkien nor anyone else you could ever mention wanted no government, no government say over the public square, or no government regulations, or no enforcement of law.
The sollution to leftist abuse of power isn’t anarchism as a principle it is taking over the state, using it to advance our agenda (i.e. against censorship) and preventing it from being abused by the left by taking over it.
If you entered a time machine in order to tell Tolkien that the obscenity laws of his time and place are oppressive he would have told you no we have a right to standards.
No matter how many FBI raids the Democrats do nobody is voting anarchist. Even most self declared anarchists want nothing of the sort. We also shouldn’t be dedicated to disbanding government, we need to take over government and use it to advance our agenda in the culture. There simply aren’t any other institutions in this country we even have a presence in.
“The sollution to leftist abuse of power isn’t anarchism as a principle it is taking over the state, using it to advance our agenda (i.e. against censorship) and preventing it from being abused by the left by taking over it.”
You should add that leftist women will be required to continuously regale us loudly with their lamentations.
That happens whenever we get a victory, and a prerequisite to victory is being able to engage in the conversation in the public square without being censored.
For that to be possible we need legislation based on the principles established by the case Marsh v Alabama.
“The sollution to leftist abuse of power isn’t anarchism as a principle it is taking over the state, using it to advance our agenda (i.e. against censorship) and preventing it from being abused by the left by taking over it.”
Are you really this naïve, or are you pretending to be? All you’re proposing is that we keep the same bloated, intrusive monster of a state… only we use it.
You want Gandalf to have the ring. After all, he’ll use it the RIGHT way.
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“‘No!’ cried Gandalf, springing to his feet. ‘With that power I should have power too great and terrible. And over me the Ring would gain a power still greater and more deadly.’ His eyes flashed and his face was lit as by a fire within. ‘Do not tempt me! For I do not wish to become like the Dark Lord himself. Yet the way of the Ring to my heart is by pity, pity for weakness and the desire of strength to do good. Do not tempt me! I dare not take it, not even to keep it safe, unused. The wish to wield it would be too great, for my strength. I shall have such need of it. Great perils lie before me.’”
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It’s not going to work. You would need to fill the government with people who feel the same as you, and then keep those positions forever. The right will have to keep control because if it loses an election the whole thing just starts again. And it will lose elections; that’s how elections work.
It is the nature of power to be abused. You (honesty or dishonestly) assume henrybowman was talking about anarchism. I didn’t see that. A MINIMAL government, one with little power outside basic law enforcement and defense, is fine. And it takes the enemy’s primary weapon out of its hand, because the left uses government to enforce its will. The less government the less power it has.
The ring must be destroyed.
Again find anything in Tolkien that suggests anarchism
Lets go over some things
1. Mayor of the Shire (looks like a government)
2. Gil-Galad was an elven KING
3. What the people of Gondor consent to while Aragorn is waiting outside Minas Tirith is ARAGORN BECOMING KING!!!!
Nope having a government, government regulations and other non-anarchist things is absolutely NOT something that has anything to do with Tolkien.
The public square in the UK was by the way very closely regulated through Tolkien’s entire lifetime, a policy he supported.
You don’t get no regulations when you remove government you just remove one power structures in favor of others i.e. big tech.
By the way everything Legal Insurrection has applauded Ron Desantis for is use of government against private actors and expansion of government regulations (yes requiring a private company not to force employees to take white privilege courses is regulation).
Nobody has ever voted anarchist in this country, nobody ever will, anarchist principles are horrible and corporatist, and the massive and rapid decline of Republicans in the culture coincides 100% with our adopting anarchist principles (which of course we applied selectively, can’t possibly apply them to FISA courts eh Bush?).
Having a government is not the same as the one ring.
Again find some evidence Tolkien was against the obscenity laws of his time period (you can’t because Tolkien supported them).
How dare you try to dredge his ghost up to support our committing political suicide.
By the way did you like when the governor of Ohio bowed to big business more than when Ron DeSantis stood up to them?
How about the Republican governor who tried to veto laws against transing kids?
That is what small government looks like.
What big government looks like is Ron DeSantis.
No government is not the ring, something like doing the Holocaust to Germans as retribution for the Holocaust they committed is the ring.
By the way further about Tolkien he makes it very clear that the Hobbits did not learn government evil anarchism/libertarianism when Saruman died they rebuilt the Shire and guess what?
Sam eventually becomes Mayor of the Shire.
No passing a regulation against social media censorship is not the ring.
If you are still imbibing the Bush era your a fool.
It seems like Danny wants the Deep State and bureaucratic rule forever. Except, he imagines, the “right” people might come to occupy all the unaccountable slots in the bureaucracy and (somehow, even as they’ve become wholly unaccountable) turn the Deep State into a force for good.
One can have a government, even a fairly powerful government, that is run by elected officials and staffed by people appointed by elected officials. No Deep State.
Whereas, if you’re American and, out of whatever motive, you want rule by the Deep State in perpetuity, you’ll make sure Democrats gain and hold power. Once the Democrats have finished making the USA into their one-party state, the bureaucracy (mostly, but not entirely Federal) will rule over the rest of us without needing to disguise itself or to concede any limits on its reach. There will be no further role for elective offices, or for elections.
The Ring needs to be returned to the Cracks of Doom, where it was forged.
Directed at retiredcantbefired
I want the United States government to continue to exist, I’m not an anarchist I am a conservative.
That doesn’t mean do illegitimate things with government, it doesn’t mean abuses of our own but it does mean yes we will have a government.
Having a government is something every nation has had since the bronze age, and it is something the Republican Party of the 20th century very strongly encouraged.
I don’t support reacting to government being misused by disbanding it.
I do support disbanding the FBI-and support creating a new federal law enforcement agency unconnected to it without any input from anyone who worked with the FBI afterwards.
The Bush era selective anarchism needs to die if we are to take charge in government.
Anarchism is not a good principle, it isn’t a popular principle either.
I back disbanding FISA courts and DHS eliminating the George W Bush legacy because I want my government to be a constitutional government.
If you for a second think we could influence the culture with no institutions your an idiot.
By the way no elected officials can’t do everything themselves, the vast majority of government work is paper work that would simply be too long for any elected official.
What could be done is appointing the right people and bringing departments to heel which I have always supported. What can’t be done is disbanding the government. Even now Trump Mr. Hyperbole himself has never suggested disbanding the government because it is an insane dream and even he a New York hyperbole specialist won’t say it.
Sounds like an invitation to join the communist part.
“Skippy Weiderman, Special Agent”…. a Quinn-Martin Production
It’s to fill the timeslot from which they cancelled My Favorite Russian.
In color?
Only a matter of time when something a lot worse than Waco happens to the citizenry. Yeah I know that wasn’t the IRS in 93. I just don’t see how this ends well.
Actually, Waco was double-teamed. The BATF poked a bear they didn’t need to poke, got their asses whipped, and ran home crying to their big brothers at the FBI, who sent their Hostage Incineration Team out to eliminate the “hostages” and all the evidence.
Reno time!
They also offed one of their own with friendly fire. Let’s remember “Operation Showtime” and the BATF raising its flag over the ruins and selfies and ground shots with burnt bodies in the background…. It guess it will be a competition as to which agency is the dirtiest.
I’d love to beat them at their own game and have tens of thousands of conservatives apply for those jobs. However, the surveillance state will have the background on every one of them, and we know they wouldn’t get hired.
87,000 new agents amount to 1740 agents per state avg. Even if the CID picks up 2,000 new agents, I suspect the other 85,000 will be doing a LOT more than pouring over tax returns and audits.
Remember the communist-socialist liberals talking about wealth redistribution and reparations? Remember Klaus and co. saying “you will own nothing and you will be happy”? I would not be surprised at all if all those new agents commence a highly-aggressive policy of asset seizure and forfeiture by the party to accomplish their socialist dreams of a Trekkian utopia.
In my worst nightmare, the government decides to assign and apportion the national debt to taxpayers on a per-capita basis. And they issue a ‘call’ on the money that’s been borrowed and printed on your behalf by your representatives. Can’t pay? Your home is seized and forfeited to satisfy the debt. I’m sure there’s a Chinese buyer who has the cash to buy it at government auction.
Least ways, it would make for a good horror movie plot. Or long-range liberal elite / globalist plans.
In this day and age, there is no need for that kind of manpower, where the average american earns less than 6 figures and files a 1040A with standard deduction. I file by HRBlock TaxCut – get a receipt for filing in under an hour, and a refund if one is due me in under 30 days. No human is looking at that – or only minimally. And do you audit someone who files short form / standard deduction? The manpower increase makes sense to me ONLY if they’re planning something far more sinister than income tax audits.
I was audited in 1964, when I was a married E-2 with a kid. You can’t get more “standard deduction” than that.
I was audited because the IRS needed stooges to roll over on a donor advised fund that I was using to vet my charitable donations. Despite the fact that my filings made it absolutely clear that I was not one of the people who was abusing the fund in imaginative ways to pay themselves tax free salaries, the deal was quite plainly that if I testified against the fund directors, all my audit pain would go away. But I was angry, radicalized, and 100% clean and I knew it, so I told him to shove it up their ass and do their worst. And they must’ve realized it too, because I never heard from the bastards again.
Anyone who tries to tell me that if you don’t cheat on your taxes you don’t have to worry about audits gets a quick punch in the throat.
So audits are going to be lit possibly involving a quick draw Duel to settle deductions.
I would rethink (not delete, rethink) this post. The IRS-CID actually predates the current IRS itself. It has been around a long time. It is the unit that took down Capone–remember Eliott Ness?
Eliot Ness was Bureau of Prohibition/Bureau of Investigation (which morphed into the FBI) when he helped take down Capone.
There is an expression that goes, “freedom is when you have nothing left to lose”.
Eventually, one of these armed agents is going to go up against somebody that has something like terminal cancer. They may have just a few months to live. Then, it will be amazing what takes place.
How y’all feel about the _A?
I guess we will just let them mow us down.
Just another concern for the citizens when the Federal Government comes calling at their home.
The litigation against Obama’s IRS abuses ( denying tax exemptions to conservative and pro Israel groups) now will arise when there audits of the average citizen who buys books by conservative authors and donates to conservative websites are audited for no reason at all except where they donate and spend their money
They left out, “Be willing to die for the emperor.”
So the IRS can shoot people to collect a “debt”? How are they any better than, say, a drug dealer, the mafia, a bookie, for getting money that they think people owe? Are they going to go visit Al Sharpton first?