Report: U.K. Lesbians ‘Pressured Into Sex by Some Trans Women’
“Young women feel pressured to sleep with trans women ‘to prove I am not a terf [trans exclusionary radical feminist]’.”
Biology is a fickle thing, isn’t it?
A BBC report about a survey from a lesbian group has set off a firestorm because it exposes the radical left’s hatred of basic biology.
The lesbians do not reject a person because they are trans. They are attracted to females. Biological females. I cannot describe why I am attracted to males like lesbians cannot describe why they are attracted to women. You just know.
Caroline Lowbridge dove into the subject after lesbians contacted her about her article on “sex, lies, and legal consent.” They told her others pressured them to “accept the idea that a penis can be a female sex organ.”
WHAT?!
***This blog post has strong language. But I find it important because as I said it exposes the danger the radical left poses to society.
Experiences
Get the L Out UK sent out a questionnaire to lesbians because the group thinks most people ignore lesbian rights. Co-founder Angela C. Wild published the results. From the BBC:
She said that of the 80 women who did respond, 56% reported being pressured or coerced to accept a trans woman as a sexual partner.
While acknowledging the sample may not be representative of the wider lesbian community, she believes it was important to capture their “points of view and stories”.
As well as experiencing pressure to go on dates or engage in sexual activity with trans women, some of the respondents reported being successfully persuaded to do so.
“I thought I would be called a transphobe or that it would be wrong of me to turn down a trans woman who wanted to exchange nude pictures,” one wrote. “Young women feel pressured to sleep with trans women ‘to prove I am not a terf [trans exclusionary radical feminist]’.”
Amy pointed out other biological differences because it’s more than just your sex organ: “I can hear their male vocal cords. I can see their male jawline. I know, under their clothes, there is male genitalia. These are physical realities, that, as a woman who likes women, you can’t just ignore.”
One woman reported being targeted in an online group. “I was told that homosexuality doesn’t exist and I owed it to my trans sisters to unlearn my ‘genital confusion’ so I can enjoy letting them penetrate me,” she wrote.
One woman described her dates with trans-women as conversion therapy: “I knew I wasn’t attracted to them but internalised the idea that it was because of my ‘transmisogyny’ and that if I dated them for long enough I could start to be attracted to them. It was DIY conversion therapy.”
A trans woman raped a lesbian after a date: “[They] threatened to out me as a terf and risk my job if I refused to sleep with [them],” she wrote. “I was too young to argue and had been brainwashed by queer theory so [they were] a ‘woman’ even if every fibre of my being was screaming throughout so I agreed to go home with [them]. [They] used physical force when I changed my mind upon seeing [their] penis and raped me.”
Jennie said one person told her “they would rather kill me than Hitler” because refused to have sex with a trans-woman. People called her transphobic and genital fetishist:
“There’s a common argument that they try and use that goes ‘What if you met a woman in a bar and she’s really beautiful and you got on really well and you went home and you discovered that she has a penis? Would you just not be interested?'” says Jennie, who lives in London and works in fashion.
“Yes, because even if someone seems attractive at first you can go off them. I just don’t possess the capacity to be sexually attracted to people who are biologically male, regardless of how they identify.”
Trans-Women Speak Out Against Labeling These Lesbians “Transphobic”
Remember, just because a group of people is loud, it does not mean their voice represents the majority. Usually, these people are the rabid extremes of the left or right.
That logic applies to this research as well because it seems the majority of trans-women understand why lesbians are not attracted to them.
Rose of Dawn, a trans-woman YouTuber, described the transphobic comments in a video as “incredibly toxic” and do not match the thoughts of the trans-women she knows in real life:
“This is something I’ve seen happen in real life to friends of mine. This was happening before I actually started my channel and it was one of the things that spurred it on,” said Rose.
“What’s happening is women who are attracted to biological females and female genitalia are finding themselves put in very awkward positions, where if for example on a dating website a trans woman approaches them and they say ‘sorry I’m not into trans women’, then they are labelled as transphobic.”
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Rose believes views like this are “incredibly toxic”. She believes the idea that dating preferences are transphobic is being pushed by radical trans activists and their “self-proclaimed allies”, who have extreme views which don’t reflect the views of trans women she knows in real life.
“Certainly from my own friends group, the trans women I’m friends with, almost all of them agree lesbians are free to exclude trans women from their dating pool,” she said.
However, she believes even trans people are afraid to talk openly about this for fear of abuse.
“People like me receive quite a lot of abuse from trans activists and their allies,” she said.
“The trans activist side is incredibly rabid against people who they see as stepping out of line.”
Large LGBT Organizations Reject Biology
LGBT organization Stonewall has grasped onto the radical left’s views about lesbians rejecting trans-women. Chief Executive Nancy Kelley equated the rejection with rejecting someone based on body shape, race, and special needs:
“Nobody should ever be pressured into dating, or pressured into dating people they aren’t attracted to. But if you find that when dating, you are writing off entire groups of people, like people of colour, fat people, disabled people or trans people, then it’s worth considering how societal prejudices may have shaped your attractions.
“We know that prejudice is still common in the LGBT+ community, and it’s important that we can talk about that openly and honestly.”
Just like the Women’s March in the US, LGBT members broke away from Stonewall due to the embrace of these views:
A new group – LGB Alliance – has been formed partly in response to Stonewall’s change of focus, by people who believe the interests of LGB people are being left behind.
“It’s fair to say that I didn’t expect to have to fight for these rights again, the rights of people whose sexual orientation is towards people of the same sex,” said co-founder Bev Jackson, who also co-founded the UK Gay Liberation Front in 1970.
“We sort of thought that battle had been won and it’s quite frightening and quite horrifying that we have to fight that battle again.”
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Seems that is exactly what governments are doing with the unwanted jab.
Lovely group
So, why not just hook up transwomen lesbians with other transwomen lesbians? Then everybody totally understands the other person, and can have all kinds of female penis play without any threat of transphobia whatsoever.
Or are transwomen all transphobic and fear female penises except their own?
Memo for LGBTQXYZ’ers:
You should have been for more careful about what you wished for, because you got it.
When telling the truth is a crime, some people find ways to weaponize the lie.
Apparently some very special people are more very special than other very special people. It’s interesting in a ‘shit, I just dripped ketchup on my tie’ sort of way. We’ve always known that there’s a hierarchy to being fucked up. Not even remotely my circus, so I’m content to remain neutral while they battle it out for primacy of their realm.
Transgender/homosexual females, trans-social males, diverse, safe, and inclusive.
Of course, even if the trans community decides to give lesbians a pass, hetero biological men will still be considered by the greater LGBTQ+ community as “transphobic” for not wanting to have sex with penis-equipped transwomen. As gay men will be for not wanting to have sex with penis-free transmen.
At a certain point the inherent contradictions adding everything after and including the “B” have brought will shatter the coalition of opportunity forced on the actual gay community by the extremists. Say what you want about L’s and G’s, at least they know what they like.
What a scam! Guys pretend to be women, then pressure lesbians to have sex with them, shaming the lesbians by calling them anti-whatever if they don’t give it up! How would they have responded if the guys hadn’t been pretending to be women in the first place? The same response is warranted. In American universities, it would still be reported as sexual misconduct or something.
SEXUAL EXTORTION – A FORM OF RAPE – IS NOW WOKE ? ?
The new WOKE Pickup Line = Sleep with me or I’ll tell everyone your Trans-Phobic.
How did 0.003% of the population get to have so much power as to brainwash everyone and to force the other 99.997% to –
– change their language
– change their customs
– bow down to them
– allow bio-men in ladies bathrooms/ changing rooms
– allow bio-men to ruin women’s sports
– force women to have sex with them
It seems like most of America has gone nuts.
Imagine if the tallest .003% (people over 6 foot 7 inches) forced everyone of the other 99.997% to refer to themselves in every conversation according to their height (as Trans/Gender advocates demand with “pronouns”) AND then forced everyone to wear 4 to 6 inch heels so that they could accommodate this very small group of privileged tall-people ? Now image if they also had the social power to shame people and to force people to have sex with them.
> > You would tell them “no way” – “that’s just selfish”
Where are the people calling this out ??
“How did 0.003% of the population get to have so much power as to brainwash everyone and to force the other 99.997%…
It seems like most of America has gone nuts.”
Without collaborators and agitators in the media, this “movement” would have died on the vine.
Reason #62 why media personalities should be the first wave of targets when the flag goes down.
In 2020 I heard of BLM supporters telling whites (usually women) they must sleep with them to prove their not racist.
No one has to have sex with someone to prove anything or to avoid being smeared as anti-Trans or as a racist. These coercive tactics are a form of rape.
In one respect this is not news: women who feel like they are being pressured into sexual activity by men; transgender men who now identify as female lesbians. That’s not a shock that men are more concerned with physical intimacy v emotional intimacy. In another it’s clearly a shock to these woke SJW adherents who believed that their own identity as lesbians and allies of the trans community would insulate them from criticism.
Such is the price for participating in the woke Olympics where subgroups compete in the woke identity hierarchy for dominance. At present the trans community is the dominant group in the SJW led woke Olympics. As a normal guy from south Alabama I have been accused of a great many ‘isms’ and of being all sorts of ‘ist’ my entire adult life. I was forcibly labeled and identified not as a normal product of my upbringing but summarily assigned and pejorative labeled as a ‘white, cisgendered, hetero normative, member of the oppressive patriarchal power structure’.
That label wasn’t chosen by me nor did the folks who assigned the label evaluate my behavior as an individual. They simply affixed the label and the negative inferences. My experience is not unique I am certain this sort of thing happens to everyone to one degree or another. This was analogous to the controversy of mis-gendering or dead naming where if one refers to a trans person by the ‘wrong’ pronoun or makes reference to the period prior to the moment that trans person decided they were trans. The wishes of the individual and their own agency to decide who and what they are is eradicated. Sauce for the goose as far as I am concerned.
That I don’t really care who does what to whom as long as it is between consenting adults and that I don’t give a hoot what delusional fantasy cosplay consenting adults get their kink from was immaterial. We are not allowed to simply not care. Instead we were labeled oppressive enemies because tolerance and acceptance wasn’t enough, the SJW demanded celebration.
Today the trans community is going further in their demands. Now one must actively participate in their kink lest one be labeled a hate filled oppressor. The LGB community made a tragic mistake in allowing the trans community to hitch their wagon to their movement. Now their own members are in the crosshairs for the same reasons as I was; acceptance and tolerance are not enough nor is celebration, the current climate requires participation.
Now then, keep men out of this. It’s women oppressing women and forcing their feminine penis onto them.
(Ouch. That hurt to write. Also, if you’re lesbian and someone tells you to take penis or be accused of transphobia the simple response is “I don’t sleep with people that try and coerce me into sex” followed by a call to the police if harassment continues.)
Right. This is “toxic translesbininity.”
Henry – you’re so insightful. Yes, indeed. TOXIC.
I used to not care what happens between consenting adults. I want to not care. I also see where not caring has led us.
It helps to extend your degree of ‘I don’t care’ attitude to be all encompassing. The first few times I was mis labeled as an ‘ist’ and pronounced guilty of an ‘ism’ without regard to evidence I got bent out of shape.
I withdrew a bit and held my peace. Then I finally realized that I had nothing to worry about. The folks applying the false labels and making accusations don’t care either. They don’t believe you or I are truly an ‘ist’ guilty of an ‘ism’. They just use the label to advance their argument.
So, now I could care less what they or anyone else calls me. It’s quite liberating to realize that no matter what one does if your actions, including those in the distant past, don’t fully embrace and celebrate the d/prog ideology of the day then they will call you names.
The d/prog don’t have any idea what to do when someone refuses to play in the woke Olympics by their Calvin ball rules. They usually get a confused look that is quickly replaced by frustration and sometimes anger. Unfortunately for them, I am retired so they can’t get me fired nor are they, as yet, willing to provoke a physical confrontation which for the next decade at least they would lose.
We were definitely informed this would never ever in a million years happen, so tell us you all lied and it did and we were right then or tell us it’s all made up and you were right all along.
Yeah, but that seems like a million years ago.
It’s not nice to pressure lesbians:
“Lesbians are known for noble anger–you know, the righteous, unimpeachable kind that shows the rest of the world just what it takes to fight for social justice.”
Behind every cause for the underdog you’ll find a cadre of sleepless lesbians who won’t rest until the cruel world changes its tune.
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I demand equity!
Young women should “feel pressured to sleep with” me as well.
It’s up to our government to make this happen!
Let’s Go, Brenda!
The more things change, the more they stay the same: Coercion of others in the name of….something….anything…as long as they get what they want.
I’m so old I remember a time when freaks like this just got the shit kicked out of them a few times, until they learned to shut the fuck up and crawl back under their rock.
The longer you live, the weirder it gets. I remember thinking about 20 years ago how eventually lesbians and gays would be my Christian allies. Because, and I’m going to be blunt, a penis is not just a social construct.
Does anyone want me to elaborate further? I’ve already thought longer and harder, pun intended, than I wanted to on this issue.
If health care is a human right, somebody has to put it out. Hello slavery!
They’ll finesse the slavery issue by paying for it with tax money, hoping you have been bred out of the insight that taxation is slavery.
Progressivism has converted us from a country in which 11% of us were 100% slaves into a country in which 90% of us are 50% slaves… and called it progress.
You know, just the very idea of being gay or lesbian MEANS there is a gender binary. You can’t be attracted to the same sex unless there is a sex.
I was always amused by the idea there was an LGBTQ!!! blah blah blah community. It was self defeating, the very notion. Let’s talk about the B. Bisexual? Really? Last I checked there were 57 flavors. Bi? There could be more now.
What the hell is the B artifact doing there?
Some community you have going on.
From what I understand the “community” has so much infighting going on that it makes Dems/Repubs look completely simpatico.
This is what happens when junk science and decadent ,immoral behavior that contradicts biological facts become “accepted” as “normal.”
I get just a tad more confused with each new “trans” controversy! Let me get this straight (no pun intended)! A lesbian, which is a WOMAN who prefers OTHER women, is concerned she will be defined as a “trans denier” feminist because she won’t have sex with a MAN who plays like HE is a woman? I think I might see what is going on here. So they are trying to have their Kate and NOT eat Edith too?? That IS a pun based on having their cake and eat it too) The lesbians have to acknowledge the “trans” in order to NOT be considered “sexist”? because saying a “trans woman” is REALLY a MAN would be wrong? BUT they don’t want to have SEX with a “trans” because the “other woman” has a penis that they don’t like?? So in essence they are saying that a “trans” woman is not REALLY a woman, BUT , they can’t say that because they support the notion of a “trans” woman is a woman except that they have a penis like a MAN! Now I get it! They’re nuts!! Oh, I bet they don’t like those either!
WHY WOULDN’T EVERY MAN SIMPLY IDENTIFY AS A BLACK WOMAN ?
Then tell every woman that they are racist trans-phobe if they don’t have sex with them ?
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Woke are setting back Feminists 100 years
Why aren’t feminists marching in the streets to protect woman’s rights ?
> This reveals the truth that most feminists are political operators – they don’t really care about women’s rights – they care about manipulating women.
BBC now reporting an open letter complaining about transphobia in their article:
https://openletter.earth/an-open-letter-to-the-bbc-regarding-an-article-published-by-catherine-lowbridge-9223a3ca
W A I T. The UK went out of its collective mind decades ago. In the US, we were told in the last few decades that ANY woman who believed she was forced into sex without her consent was “raped”. Now apply that same standard to the [FAKE—I’m a psychiatrist, so don’t try to bamboozle me with psychobabble, okay? I’m also conservative and a MINORITY amongst my peers] current situation. That, by extension, would mean that any woman who coerces another woman into sex would be a rapist. Period. No other conclusion could be drawn from the forensic psychiatric point of view. None. Those British lesbians were raped. Pure. And. Simple. And their rapists should be punished. A nice radical combination penectomy/bilateral orchiectomy would do it. Then the rapists could pursue their pure “womanly” dreams. Sans the ability to sexually assault genetic women/lesbians.