Major Companies Demand Biden Clarify COVID Vaccine Mandate
“Accordingly, we respectfully request that you work closely with our organization and the broader business community to create immediate clarity on how the plan can and should be implemented.”
The Consumer Brands Association (CBA), which represents major companies like Coca-Cola and General Motors, demanded Biden clarify his COVID vaccine mandate on companies with over 100 employees.
The Department of Labor’s Occupational Safety and Health Administration will enforce that rule. If they don’t mandate the vaccines then they have to conduct weekly COVID tests.
The mandate will affect 80 million Americans.
The administration will fine a company $14,000 for each violation.
“Federal agencies must move quickly, anticipate challenges, promptly answer questions and partner with the private sector if we are to realize successful implementation of the administration’s COVID-19 Action Plan and achieve our shared goal of increased vaccination rates,” state CBA President and CEO Geoff Freeman.
The CBA said it received a “flood of feedback” from its member companies with questions for the government about the mandate and implementation, “including over 50 unique questions needing clarification.”
Freeman outlined these questions in a letter to Biden and the White House. He reminded the administration that the industry has “2.1 million essential workers” who “have tirelessly throughout the pandemic.”
“On behalf of the consumer packaged goods (CPG) industry, we write to request that federal agencies move quickly, anticipate challenges, promptly answer questions and partner with the private sector if we are to realize successful implementation of the administration’s COVID-19 Action Plan and achieve our shared goal of increased vaccination rates,” wrote CBA President and CEO Geoff Freeman. “Accordingly, we respectfully request that you work closely with our organization and the broader business community to create immediate clarity on how the plan can and should be implemented.”
It never ceases to amaze me that administrations will vomit talking points and think people and companies will just swallow it down without questions.
Here are the questions regarding vaccinations:
Vaccinations
- What is considered documentation for proof of vaccination and how will booster vaccinations be factored into compliance?
- Must an employee be “fully vaccinated” in order to work?
- How will the requirements address natural immunity? Will individuals that have contracted COVID-19 be required to be vaccinated or submit to testing requirements?
- Will the requirements only apply to vaccines that are fully approved by the Food and Drug Administration?
- Does the government have plans to centralize vaccination tracking or is it the responsibility of businesses to manage?
- What are the consequences of falsifying one’s vaccination status and does responsibility rest with the individual or employer?
Then there’s testing:
Testing
- Is there a single testing standard that must be met that would be considered compliant to the negative test result requirement?
- What are the consequences of falsifying test results and does responsibility rest with the individual or employer?
- What is considered suitable documentation of a negative test result?
- For how long will documentation of test results need to be held?
- If an employee takes a COVID-19 test but the results are not yet available, is the employee allowed to continue to work pending the results?
- Will business testing programs that test all employees on site throughout the day meet the requirements for unvaccinated workers need to test “before coming to work”?
- Should employees choose not to vaccinate, is the company or employee responsible for securing and paying for testing? Will paid time off be required for weekly testing requirements?
The CBA has these questions about implementation:
Operational
- When will the requirements be formally issued and what is the timeline for compliance?
- How does this mandate impact locations with collective bargaining and existing collective bargaining agreements?
- Will this federal requirement preempt existing state-imposed obligations?
- Will the federal requirements supersede state expense reimbursement statutes?
- Do the new federal requirements include exemptions based on sincerely held religious beliefs and disabilities?
- Will waivers be allowed if essential employee absences or attrition cause significant disruption to the CPG supply chain?
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Among other things, ‘major companies’ may have begun to realize one or both of the following.
Unvaccinated workers may not voluntarily resign in the numbers hoped. Requiring the company to officially fire them. With all that legally entails.
They may lose a lot more workers than anticipated. Which will cause a lot of other problems.
The Regime’s mandates were not thought thru and were trotted out in haste to distract from the Afghanistan disaster. Which was caused by not thinking the withdrawal through before acting.
We can expect more of the same ‘not thought through’ dictatorial behavior from this Regime.
Oh, and one more thing — #FJB.
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My favorite response so far is from “Awaken With JP.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxZ0mwq5oHg
Thinking things through is not a hallmark of the Biden administration.
Is thinking? At all?
But they’re gonna circle back to us on that “thinking” part.
Why would officially firing employees bother said companies? This mandate lets you fire them for cause rather than laying them off. Fired employees aren’t eligible for unemployment assistance and you don’t have to pay them severance, so it costs the company practically nothing.
Until said employees start “shopping” a la BLM and just rob the place en masse.
They can’t find the employees they need as it is. The latest employment numbers revealed many new jobs created yet unemployment remains high as the government keeps paying people not to work. As in China, this will cause massive wage inflation or the government will institute wage freezes again like Nixon did.
This is what a communist takeover looks like.
There will inevitably be union grievances and all sorts of litigation that will be costly and disruptive. If Biden forces firms into this fight, they want to know that he’ll back them up better than he backed up our Afghan interpreters. Not a good bet.
The employee search, the HR paperwork, the training—all cost money. Turnover is inefficient.
And when you have high turnover, the costs for unemployment goes up – you pay federal unemployment based on the first $7,000 earned. But, if the employee is replaced, then you are paying on the first $7,000 earned again! The rate and amount for state unemployment varies by state.
In my state employees who are fired are eligible for unemployment assistance, (unless they were fired for committing a crime or gross misconduct). The rationale being that it’s not their fault they were fired because Employment at-will allows an employer to terminate employees at any time, for any reason. Refusing a shot that the CDC Director admits causes “breakthrough infections” is not a crime or gross misconduct.
As I understand it, if it is “for cause” the cause has to be an approved reason for termination. So they need to have the details of the OSHA regulation in order to actually do it.
You cannot fire someone for violating a regulation that does not exist.
Because firing someone for a medical condition or the potential to become infected with a virus is a violation of the ADA. And there will be no pretext capable of hiding the reason why an unvaccinated employee was fired – the law considers the person “protected” if they are in a particular group or have a particular medical status (e.g., unvaccinated/subject to becoming ill with COVID). Considering the situation, it would be ludicrous for any company to even attempt to assign some other cause to the firing of unvaccinated employees. And some companies will be stupid enough to crow about it.
Biden’s* mandate is demanding violation of the ADA by employers, quite simply. Just one of the reasons why he can’t mandate such a thing. It would be like requiring the firing of all gay men back in the 1980s. Indeed, the AIDS epidemic was the reason the ADA was revised by Congress to prevent discrimination based on health status and a person’s potential susceptibility to contracting a virus and being ill with a transmittable disease or potentially becoming ill with one.
It’s simpler than that. This is what the government taking over the means of productions looks like in America. China is doing the same thing by once again squeezing out the free enterprise components of its economy. It’s happening everywhere. We are heading towards the New World Order where you will own nothing but be happy.
It will be hilarious if this mandate crashes and burns because of this administration’s incompetence.
I didn’t see my question:
Fuck Off?
I can clarify it. A mandate from a pResident is not a law. With the exemptions of Congress, their staff and families, and the exemption of the postal workers make this a bullshit decree. No to the jab.
Fuck Biden.
The President didn’t exempt Congress. The executive can’t regulate the legislature or the judiciary as they are separate and independent branches of government. Federal employees are under the president’s executive order. USPS and undocumented aliens who work are covered by the new OSHA rules.
Nobody claims a mandate from a president is law. But a regulation from OSHA is law, provided that it’s authorized by the OSH Act. So the question the courts will have to answer will be whether the rule that OSHA comes up with is within the scope of the authority congress gave it.
Or until the OSHA field workers realize it’s very much in their interest nbot to enforce it. Want to decide what the “law” is? Two can and should play that game.
You mean like, maybe, jamming a pistol barrel in Mr. OSHA’s left nostril and asking, “are you sure?”?
The problem w/your response is that no competent attorney, including in house counsel at the relevant large businesses, believe the OSHA reg to be legal. Not even close. But if the requirement is such a good idea Congress can write up a bill and quickly usher it into being an actual law. That is the purpose of Congress, right?
It is time to stop rule by imperial writs and revert back to being a Representative Democracy with three branches of government.
I’m sorry I only have one upvote to give to this comment.
Same here.
Wrong! Your willful ignorance streak continues. OSHA has no authority to make vaccine mandate laws.
Go ahead, call me names again and claim I can’t read. That doesn’t change the fact that Congress makes laws. There’s nothing in the OHSA act that grants them authority to become the doctor for the entire workforce. All of a sudden the Dept. of Labor and OHSA are the experts on Covid and the jab? Not the CDC??? Are you for real? We have to protect the vaccinated from the unvaccinated? Get a clue, you clown!
Heyas Norm, you’re new here (at least to commenting). Milhouse is not a lawyer and has never even played one on tv (that I am aware of). He just likes to be persnickety. And annoying. I don’t know why he is driven to be the most unpopular person ever, but he is. That said, he does make great points at times and is right about some things sometimes. The key to dealing with Milhouse is embracing when he is right (and he often is) and then just ignoring his other crazy. That’s what I do, anyway, so just a suggestion. That and $6 will buy you a gallon of gas next year.
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SOMEONE had to replace Ragspierre…
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/Just busting your chops a bit, Milhouse. NO one can replace Rags. BEFORE they made him, they broke the mold!
***** you too, Fuzzy. I’m only unpopular with people who put absolutely no value in the truth, and don’t even believe there is such a thing as truth. People who will say whatever they think will advance their interest, and don’t even understand the concept that they shouldn’t. Unfortunately we have a plague of such worthless garbage on this site.
Rude! I didn’t even come close to saying FU to you or about you Milhouse. You are way out of line, not only in your crazy attack on me, but in suggesting that our site is worthless garbage or peopled by commenters who are such. You know who is worthless garbage? Evil, sick, demented lunatics who tell people to kill themselves. Ring a bell, you sick sack?
Come at me some more. It’s fun.
OSHA has the authority to make rules that protect people from unsafe workplaces. If Wuhan Disease were a lot more serious a problem than it is, and the presence of unvaccinated people actually made the workplace unsafe, then there’s no question that OSHA would have the authority to make such a rule, and even to do it on an emergency basis that skips the comment period. The legal question only arises because the risk and the urgency are patently not what the administration pretends they are.
“Unsafe workplace” should be a clue.
First of all, there is a procedure to follow except in emergencies. Now the “workaround” to declare a threat that has been known for some time without any reaction by OSHA to suddenly be an emergency would be – let’s say – a stretch.
Therefore it is quite clear that – if they have the authority to mandate certain invasive tests that violate the bodily autonomy of the tested at all – they cannot deliberately circumvent the regular process by ignoring a “threat” until they claim it to be an “emergency.” Here alleged threat has not even increased, on the contrary it has decreased – just like the “patience” of the President –, if it existed at all: because of the availability of vaccines..
Additionally, the ukase of President Biden assumes that the emergency exists only in companies with 100 or more employees while being totally absent in those with 99 employees. Quite obviously the nature of the claimed emergency (a “pandemic”) does not make such dsitinctions. Another clue that this is not within the remit of OSHA.
Not to mention that the ukase would seem to apply to a company with 100 traveling salesmen, or if you prefer, salespersons.
Please don’t quadruple down to defend what is plainly an illegal power grab of the President. Or if you prefer, in the words of his Chief of Staff, “the ultimate workaround” around the constitution, mind you.
Isn’t that hairsplitting? If it’s a regulation with coercion, force of the state, guns and such, then why does an ordinary citizen, at the point of somebody’s gun give a damn?
Coercion by regulation, coercion by law, both .38 calibre.
I did not know that MR milhouse wasn’t a lawyer, I thought he was. Nor did i know that an LLD was a requisite for making sense. Or not making sense.
And if that LLD or LDL, I know I’ve got a high LDL, if that designation is a standard, the FJB.
If y’all needed somebody to step in and ..
Well, even lawyers and judges read law wrong, and in a sense Lincoln wasn’t a lawyer, mostly none of his predecessors, in that sense, and it’s damn sure he didn’t tweet good. He’d have heard of Booth.
Booth and Lincoln in the same booth.
I don’t have a degree in recognizing coincidences, ‘course a real coincidence would be that there are none,
but damn. What if Lincoln had been driving a broke down Lincoln? No theatrics that night.
Different history, guys. Bullet proof.
The Regime already admitted to using OSHA as a “workaround” to sidestep the blatant unconstitutionality of such a diktat. Intent matters.
OSHA has the authority to promulgate such a rule. The question that the court will have to decide is whether OSHA has the authority to promulgate the rule as an “emergency temporary standard” (OSH Act § 655c) and bypass the public notification and comment period that usually applies to rule making (OSH Act § 655b)
(A) that employees are exposed to grave danger from exposure to substances or agents determined to be toxic or physically harmful or from new hazards, and (B) that such emergency standard is necessary to protect employees from such danger.
“Any person who may be adversely affected by a standard issued under this section may at any time prior to the sixtieth day after such standard is promulgated file a petition challenging the validity of such standard with the United States court of appeals for the circuit wherein such person resides or has his principal place of business, for a judicial review of such standard.”
Submission 1 by any previously affected employee:
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.24.21262415v1.full.pdf
QED
Here is the law on administrative procedures, the Administrative Procedures Act (APA):
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/5/part-I/chapter-5/subchapter-II
The document below says “an agency may consider presidential directives”, but not that there is any obligation to act on a presidential directive, nor does it say that an agency action based on a presidential directive can bypass other requirement of the APA:
https://www.federalregister.gov/uploads/2011/01/the_rulemaking_process.pdf
A presidential directive is not law. It cannot evade the requirements of statute in order to become regulation. Regulatory agencies may ignore a president’s directives. Biden* is trying to stampede businesses into acting precipitously, imposing their own vaccine mandates and firing the unvaccinated on what will be their own dime (possibly quite a few dimes).
Why is this dotard shoveling money at vaccine companies who have harmed so very many people?
Why haven’t these dangerously defective vaccines been pulled?
Dollars into Joe’s and others’ accounts. You can include Republicans in on that as well. Darn few of them are clean.
Big Guy is surely getting his 10% on the backend while the American people take in the backside.
I just got news that another one of my friends has been diagnosed with COVID — and again told to go home, untreated, to self-quarantine.
There is growing evidence that the MMR and TdAP vaccines may explain why our schoolchildren are largely free of this disease, and yet our FDA is apparently planning on shoveling yet more money at Pfizer and Moderna, despite the obvious problems with myocarditis and pericarditis.
Does nobody care about the medical problems they are trying to foist on our children, who have largely escaped this ailment?
It’s their families’ job to care. Many of them do. Most of them believe the lies.
But as a parent and grandparent, it’s not my job to see that other people’s kids survive at the expense of my own. Quite the converse.
Henry is correct here. The Parents and family members of those impacted must be willing to fight for their own family members. We can help them in that fight when we have spare resources that don’t deprive our family members. When their families refuse to fight though what is it we are to do? Kidnap the vulnerable? That’s crazy.
If someone is near drowning in a pond I will throw them a rope and a buoy, no problem. If they refuse the buoy because they don’t like the color or their family is preventing me from throwing the buoy then there isn’t much more I can do. We can only assist folks who don’t reject our efforts to help.
Wow.
Those of you who downvoted me, be sure to tell your kids those votes were yours. They’ll be so proud of you.
Our children won’t be free of heart inflammation if they’re forced to take these vaccines. That’s got a 2/3 kill rate after 5 years, a whole lot of people are going to die young from this generation.
Given the tendency of the vaccine’s spike proteins to concentrate in the ovaries I’d be seriously worried that sterility will result when administered to girls. It won’t be obvious for a very long time, enough to claim that it had nothing to do with the vaccines.
I could be a racist and point out that it’s mostly whites falling for vaccinating their children.
More of the strategy of replacement?
I’m content to sit and wait out the long-term “animal (human) testing” of this vaccine and let the “early adopters” take the consequences they signed up for.
I spent two years working closely with a fellow software engineer who had been a Thalidomide baby. Learned many intriguing and humbling life lessons about man’s ability to cope with myriad aspects of life even while totally armless. The drug had been sold to his mom by the medical establishment (overseas) as totally safe.
I’m 72, but have had the DipTet etc series, and also had measles (both kinds I think). So, do I have immunity as well?
Naw, I think you have to have had WuFlu to have natural immunity. Most Americans have had it in some measure, mine was pretty scary, and I was not doing great for at least 10 days. But I recovered just fine, as do 99% of those infected with WuFlu.
You were vaccinated, so shouldn’t worry (well, who knows, according to the Biden admin vaccines are worthless . . . so everyone needs it. Crazy Town.)
I just wondered. The first Pfizer shot gave me a 5 minute headache. The second one I felt like I had been struck by a locomotive and that lasted three days.
I recovered from WuFlu just fine, have natural immunity, and will never ever get “the jab.” Well, I guess if the Biden brownshirts show up and hold me down and force me to get it, I won’t have much choice, but I’m thinking that’s a bad plan for the Biden team. Just a guess. FJB
It affects bears somewhat differently depending on whether they are friendly or not..
The only one in my “family” who has taken the jab is my youngest’s permanent girlfriend. Developed serious hives the next day, as well as the typical flu symptoms. Doctor says, no second shot for you. Worst of all possible worlds — ingested the mystery serum, didn’t even get the social benefits.
As adults, you should get the tdap booster shot every 10 years. I usually get one based on what happened (rusty nail, working in the garden, etc). For the MMR vaccines, you can get a lab test done that measures your immunity levels. Based on the results, you can decide whether to get the MMR shots. I had measles, etc as a child and I still have very high immunity levels.
While there has been a report of delayed Afghan flights due to an out break of measles, the lack of health testing at the southern border suggests that you may want to make sure you have strong immunity against measles, etc.
The paper I read about the MMR vaccine and kids was a review of medical records as an attempt to come up with a reason for the lack of illness in the under 14 age group.
I don’t really care what anyone thinks about my personal medical decisions that are no one’s business but my own. But thanks for sharing.
The TDAP shot is a great example of how incompetent the medical establishment is.
Running a ranch, my wife has tetanus incidents regularly — barbed wire, animal bites, garden incidents (garden full of homemade manure). The hospital pushes a tetanus shot on her every time. Every time, she asks them, “Is your tetanus shot still made from horse serum? Because I’m seriously allergic to that.” Every time, they are totally incapable of telling her whether or not it is, even when they do the research. As a result, she never gets the shots, and so far she’s been lucky. But how can the medical system be totally unable to answer a relatively simple, life-threatening question like that? This is precisely their wheelhouse, but instead, it’s as if they have no one any more knowledgeable than a stocking retail pharmacist.
“We demand you provide these neck shackles in ALL sizes, XXS to XXXXL.”
Cowards and sheep, all of them.
I just read that the deaths from the jab from mid-July through now is about 70 per day. If 70 people IN TOTAL had died in 2018 or 2019 from the flu vaccine it would have been pulled off the market! But 70 people dying every day from the COVID vaccine is somehow acceptable?
Any kinks? I’m not being mean; I really want to read up on this. Thanks.
^^^ LINKS…
I’m glad you clarified that.
https://youtu.be/f2ce-zC_n8E
I couldn’t find a reliable source on this, so best to disregard at this point.
[tip of my non-existent hat]
Thank-ee ma’am.
The Swine Flu shot in the ’70s was pulled after 50 some deaths associated with it. Contrast that with this clot shot, which has thousands upon thousands of deaths associated with it, yet continues to be crammed down our throats at every opportunity.
It was pulled, yes but then disposed of by requiring all military personnel be given the swine flu shot. My time came up, and the corps(e)man, being a friend, shot the stuff down a nearby sink, marked me as vaccinated, and that was the end of it.
Jerry Ford’s Swine Flu vaccine was pulled after a TOTAL of 53 people died from it. That’s less than ONE DAY’S vax toll for COVID.
This puts me in mind of the observation that the death toll at Parkland High was 17 kids, and it was a national obsession for a year. That’s ONE WEEKEND in Chicago.
If you want to understand a government’s priorities, examine their reckoning of acceptable casualties.
Jeff Bezos is about to crash land into the reality that 80% of his workforce won’t voluntarialy resign. Must be why they are giving away $10k to some lucky vaccinated employees.
Question not asked: Where do we send the bill for all the trouble this causes?
Did I miss the question about liability?
That’s what all this crap is demanding to know without actually asking about it.
They’re demanding that Biden answer every possible reasonable argument IN ADVANCE because they know goddamn well that they won’t have an answer for it.
“Major companies demand Biden free them from all liability for forcing the vaccine on people that don’t want it.”
Fixed it for you.
Small biz will be extremely happy. Big biz is about to shed a shit ton of low wage workers.
There is a lot of freedom in having nothing to lose. White collar frauds with do-nothing jobs are dispensable. They know it and are quaking in their boots. They have no choice but to get vaxed… which will solve nothing since they are statistically insignificant in hospitalizations unless they were porkers.
Men/women who can quit their jobs, walk across the street and earn the exact same at about the same low skill job will do exactly that.
Mind you the supply chain is FUBAR now. Just wait until meat processing factories can’t process meat, can’t store meat in warehouses, can’t ship meat and grocery stores can’t accept meat at their distribution centers nor get it to their chain stores nor stock it on their store shelves. I don’t know the name for that condition, but it rhymes with Venezuela.
I was at a local indie-butcher shop today- they’re having a hard time with their supply chain and that’s local.
This will not play out well.
Twice in two years, preppers will be wetting their pants laughing.
What about us white-collar non-frauds? I’m an engineer and such jobs don’t grow on trees. Worse, they tend to be concentrated in the 100+ employee companies, not that there’s any guarantee that the few small engineering companies won’t be as bad.
Similarly, technical writers, most all jobs are a) federal contractors and b) +100 employees …
Depends on how dispensable you are as an engineer.
In the tech industry you are 100% dispensable.
In other industries- it depends on which side of the 80/20 rule you are on. Even on engineering teams, you know damn well all but 20% could be fired tomorrow with no impact.
A good rule of thumb is, unless you own the place, you are dispensable.
Not knowing your specialty or your skillset, I can only tell you what worked for me.
I moved to a deep red rural area for liberty reasons, I discovered it to have ben ignored by major tech services. No cable, no DSL, no competent home computer services. Even the phone lines wouldn’t support 56K.
Strictly because my neighbors asked me if being a tech guy, there was something I could do, I started off offering modest services to my immediate neighborhood. Demand grew to encompass a local town and three unincorporated communities. By the time I sold my one-man business, it was pulling in six figures annually.
That story began 20 years ago. The unserved skilled niches have shuffled since then, but they still exist. Reconcile yourself with the fact that you will have to move, then find the right place to move to.
I cannot overstate how positive our lives became for making this change, or how much less complicated self-employment is than it is made out to be. In a lot of places, big companies don’t offer services not because the people are too poor, but because they’re too spread out. Offer concierge service with housecalls, make it work for you.
There’s an article over at autoblog dot com about a proposal to allow 18 year olds to drive over-the-road big rigs. Yes, the shortage of drivers is that bad.
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If that applied to the feather merchants in government, but, alas, it does not.
“achieve our shared goal of increased vaccination rates”
Why would the CBA have a shared goal of increasing vaccination rates? Vaccination rates, per se, are none of their business.
My company announced a clone of Biden’s plan shortly before Biden announced his. Makes me wonder if Biden’s plan is really being pushed by big employers who want legal cover for what is sure to be very unpopular, and who want their competitors similarly hobbled.
It’s blindingly obvious that “herd immunity” was never the goal. First it was 70%, which Biden says we’ve already passed. Now it looks like nothing less than 100% of adults being vaccinated will be accepted, and they’re going to keep squeezing until they get it.
Children’s Health Defense Sues FDA Over Approval of Pfizer Comirnaty Vaccine
https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/childrens-health-defense-sues-fda-pfizer-comirnaty-covid-vaccine/
The lawsuit, filed Aug. 31, alleges the U.S. Food and Drug Administration violated federal law when the agency simultaneously licensed Pfizer’s Comirnaty COVID vaccine and extended Emergency Use Authorization for the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine.
Children’s Health Defense (CHD) on Aug. 31 filed suit in U.S. District Court, Eastern District of Tennessee against the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) and its acting director, Dr. Janet Woodcock, for their allegedly deceptive, rushed licensure of Pfizer’s Comirnaty vaccine.
CHD argues that the licensure was a classic “bait and switch,” allowing Pfizer, the Biden administration, the U.S. military and employers to exhort people to take “licensed” vaccines when in fact the vaccines available and being administered continued to be the Pfizer-BioNTech Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) vaccines.
Apparently, the law has it that once there is a fully approved vaccine, all EUA usage must stop, but the FDA isn’t running it that way.
Here is the cure to this madness:
Thanks the installed White House occupant, half of San Diego police are vowing to quit or allow themselves to be fired if a “vaccine” mandate is issued:
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2021/09/13/san-diego-could-lose-half-their-police-force-from-vaccine-mandate-45-percent-are-a-hard-no-and-willing-to-be-fired/
Also, the American medical establishment, including the AMA, are threatening to decertify all medical personnel, including doctors, who refuse to embrace the only approved (non-scientific) medical opinion being foisted onto them.
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2021/09/13/american-medical-bureaucracy-including-ama-increase-threats-against-doctors-who-do-not-comply-with-forced-vaccination-position/
We can kick the stool right out from under them by calling their bluff thus forcing them to play their hand. Would they then declare martial law? Let’s find out.
This is like King George III opening the 1776 Parliament with his annual address declaring the American Colonies to be no longer under the protection of the Crown. THAT was the start of the American Revolution. The colonists were suddenly forced to decide to either fight or accept their grim future of endless tyranny. They chose to fight by issuing the Declaration of Independence. Until then, it had only been a protest.
Those colonists were proud of their British citizenship. But King George stripped them of that by declaring war on them. Today, we have a global cabal declaring war against patriotic Americans and identifying those who resist to be “domestic terrorists”. The only difference is that King George’s actions were very unpopular among the rest of the ruling class. Today, the entire ruling class has declared war on us.
So do we just stand there and surrender? Sue them again? Or do we take them on right now? Biden just presented to us that golden opportunity to force the issue in a very big and loud way. Just say FJB! Take your “vaccines” and stuff them! Let the crumbling begin.
FJB!!!!
“Demands Biden clarify…”
You must not use “Biden” and “clarify” in the same sentence. You can’t clarify the unclarifiable.
Any vaccine “mandate” from OHSA/Department of Labor cannot bypass or override the requirements of Title VII and the Americans with Disabilities Act, which allow employees to request reasonable accommodations for religious and disability based reasons.
And what about people working remotely? Why the heck should remote employees be required to vaccinate? What is the workplace safety interest in demanding people be vaccinated in their homes?
As AOC explained recently in a Congressal hearing, the non-vaccinated need to be vaccinated so as to protect those who are already vaccinated. Hmmm… following that logic, wouldn’t it make more sense to devaccinate those who are vaccinated? Just following the logic since no one is interested in following the science.
The science on “devaccination” is in itself pretty murky.
Reading threads of nurses going to get fired or quit rather than doing the vaccines.
Seems some hospitals are getting the runs worrying about staffing. Lots of nurses from the boomer generation that could retire but had planned on working longer. Not as much anymore with the mandates.
Anyone with scarce or in demand skills always has options. IMO, many employers are going to find out that reliable Joe/Jane who does their job so well that people wait to make decisions until Joe/Jane come back from vacation are not meek little mice. Every workplace has a couple of folks who are informal leaders and make sure the trains run on time.
Joe/Jane have already decided not to get the vax, they are going to play the HR game if their employer adopts the mandate. Then they will depart for greener pastures where their skill set, hard work and commitment to liberty are valued. A brain drain from blue cities/States is likely unfolding to the great benefit of red areas.