Biden’s Pick to Head ATF Wants to Ban AR-15s
David Chipman, who spread a conspiracy theory about the Waco Siege, testified: “With respect to the AR-15, I support a ban as has been presented in a senate bill and supported by the president”
Biden has made some awful appointments, but none so far have been as dangerously outside the mainstream as David Chipman. Biden wants him to head the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms.
Chipman openly admitted in a hearing on Wednesday that he wants to ban the AR-15, the most popular rifle in America today.
Chipman is an active anti-gun activist. He has zero business being anywhere near the levers of power at the ATF.
Morgan Phillips reports at FOX News:
Biden ATF nominee supports ban on AR-15
President Biden’s nominee to head the Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) bureau, David Chipman, said during Wednesday that he is in favor of a ban on AR-15 rifles.
“With respect to the AR-15, I support a ban as has been presented in a senate bill and supported by the president,” Chipman told Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas. Cruz said the AR-15 was “one of, if not the, most popular rifle in America.
“The AR-15 is a gun I was issued on the ATF’s SWAT team, and it’s a particularly lethal weapon. Regulating it as other particularly lethal weapons, I have advocated for. As ATF director, if I’m confirmed, I would simply enforce the laws on the books, and right now there is no such ban on those guns.”
Chipman was an ATF special agent for 25 years and currently serves as senior policy adviser to gun violence prevention group Giffords.
Watch Ted Cruz question Chipman in the clip below:
The truth has been exposed: Biden’s radical ATF nominee wants to ban AR-15s. pic.twitter.com/mQQlA4OIl9
— Senator Ted Cruz (@SenTedCruz) May 26, 2021
Chuck Grassley has a great line here:
“Many see putting a committed gun control proponent, like David Chipman, in charge of ATF… is like putting Antifa in charge of the Portland police department.” –Sen. @ChuckGrassley #OpposeChipman pic.twitter.com/FTW2mcW6Gq
— NRA (@NRA) May 26, 2021
Tom Cotton asked Chipman to define what an assault weapon is. His answer is stunning:
Senator @TomCottonAR asks Biden's ATF nominee David Chipman to define an "assault weapon":
"Any semi-automatic rifle capable of accepting a detachable magazine above the caliber of .22" pic.twitter.com/EA4NveiqKt
— Daily Caller (@DailyCaller) May 26, 2021
Dana Loesch says this is all part of the plan:
This was always about the start of banning all semi-auto. It’s why they conflate semi with full auto and throw around terms like “assault weapon” (a term only used once in an Army field guide from the 60s specifically describing full-auto). https://t.co/gN08r9mIle
— Dana Loesch (@DLoesch) May 26, 2021
David Chipman was present during the Waco Siege. In the years since he has pushed a conspiracy theory about the event. For years, Democrats and the media have been telling us how dangerous conspiracy theories are. Does that rule still apply?
Tiana Lowe writes at the Washington Examiner:
Chipman has publicly defended and justified the Waco raid.
“I worked for the government for 25 years, and I understand how trust in government has been harmed,” Chipman wrote in response to a question on Reddit about Waco’s ramifications on public trust. “Please remember, however, that it was agents on the ground who let the public know the truth about these incidents when some sought to cover-up inconvenient truths.”
In that same thread, Chipman lied that “cult members used 2 .50 caliber Barretts [sic] to shoot down two Texas Air National Guard helicopters.” In reality, none of the helicopters — again, secured thanks to government officials’ lies about a meth lab — were successfully shot down.
Last night, Tucker Carlson called Chipman a zealot. It’s a good choice of words.
The Senate should not confirm this man to head the ATF. This is a no-brainer.
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By bet is he will get seated, what’s going to stop it?
And he seems like a Leftist hard core to me.
He’s nuts.
And don’t look for the likes of Paul Ryan’s GOPe rats to stop him:
Paul Ryan — Conservatism is doomed if we rely on Trump the Populist:
https://citizenfreepress.com/breaking/paul-ryan-conservatism-is-doomed-if-we-rely-on-trump-the-populist/
What’s going to stop it? Manchin, for one. As a Democrat who makes such a huge deal of being pro-2A, this whole dog-and-pony show seems tailored to make it impossible for him to support confirmation. Probably Sinema too, since she portrays herself as a moderate and in her state a vote to confirm Chipman would be seen as refuting that.
Don’t forget, her colleague in the Senate is Mark Kelley, or, as he is colloquially known, Mister Gabby Giffords. He runs his own gun-control organization. No way he’s voting no on Chipman.
Hey, LI, you missed a great graphic by failing to run the “trophy photo” of Chipman standing arrogantly atop the smoking ruins of Mount Carmel Retreat in Waco.
Well, duh. In Chipman’s current job Kelley is his employer! Of course he will vote for him. But Sinema might not.
And a crackpot.
listening to David Chipman, he seems like straight out-and-out Communist hard-core to me, one who follows the Alinsky playbook to the letter
damn good thing i don’t own anything marked “AR-15″… 😉
@thesamsorbo
“I was considering selling my guns back to the government. But after an extensive background check, I found the buyer had a history of violence and was mentally unstable. Big safety risk.”
When the Bill of Rights as passed, Printing Presses were simple manual machines that printed one single sheet at a time. The Founding Fathers could never have envisioned today’s High Speed Automatic Presses that shoot out hundreds of sheets per minute.
So, clearly we have to considered limits to the First Amendment.
Simple Common Sense Press Control.
you forgot that we have to also limit amplified speech, fax machines, cameras, telegraphs, telephones, televisions, “smart” phones, cameras of all types, scanners, communication satellites, movie and overhead projectors. radios, of all types, more than they are now.,..
the list is endless, but it’s for the chilren, so it’s all good. 😎
Flawless logic, especially if you’re a leftist
Don’t forget radio and television journalism. No way those are covered because they in no way resemble a printing press.
“Biden’s Pick to Head ATF Wants to Ban AR-15s”
And will be confirmed. by Senators (all the Ds of course, with some RINOs) to whom the Article VI oath to “this Constitution” means nothing.
Romney, Collins, et al
Waco fingerprints, former ATF SWAT trooper, Gifford’s employee…. yep… pretty strong DNA there. His definition of “assault rifle” includes 115 year old hunting rifles. The ban would include 22 cal and up. He states the AR-15 is a particularly lethal firearm that he used in SWAT. I find that singularly interesting that he carried an AR-15 as being part of BATF when he would have access to M-16s. and an AR-15 leaves one a triffle undergunned against the really bad guys. But what is a little mistake or misinformation on Capitol Hill? He stated he woould only do what Congress tells hiim to do … which is strange for a regulatory agency that can make its own rules…and does.
” He states the AR-15 is a particularly lethal firearm that he used in SWAT. I find that singularly interesting that he carried an AR-15 as being part of BATF when he would have access to M-16s.”
I agree, and I believe him to be lying about carrying an AR-15. An ATF SWAT team would most certainly carry select-fire weapons and he knows the difference.
I am fairly sure he could be that ignorant. I know an BATF office that had extra money for overtime to investigate multiple sales of handguns.
They investigated the hell out of a psychiatrist who bought two historical guns in the same week. He just go divorced (Celebrating with a gift to himself) and bought a 1912 German Luger (Navy model I think it was called?) and a British Webley revolver in .455 Webley, which in preinternet days had one source for it’s ammunition, at a dollar plus a round. They couldn’t spend a little time, see he was a licensed doctor and zero police record.
This is the same office, that one gun shop sent them over six required multiple handgun sale reports, and called them about three times about a guy buying cheap handguns in batches.
It finally took the state police arresting them because 2 or 3 guns were picked up at crime scenes, and the state police keep an illegal (Under state law.) handgun registry and tracked it back to them.
Then BATF wanted to preen over arresting the guy they were buying them for, when they ratted him out and the guns were turning up in other states.
They didn’t bother to investigate because there wasn’t a special overtime pay program and the gun shop did everything but go to their office and hit them over the head with their bound book of gun transactions, it took the state police to stir them up.
So him being that ignorant, as a pre-DOJ BATF and Waco veteran agent is perfectly possible. He is PROUD of being involved where pregnant women and children got immolated and a legally blind guy got shot to death in his bed on the day of the raid. Also a high percentage of the “injured agents’ (BATF) were hit with shrapnel from other SWAT Team people’s flash bang grenades.
I had a list of about 10 agents in the 1990’s that if their name showed up in the investigation it was screwed up, or worse. I never published it online because I might be accused of “Threatening Federal Agents” and he was on it.
In 95% of police agencies of Federal LE those bozos would of never made it in or gotten fired. The BATF of Treasury days was a disaster of epic proportion, and Thank God the Homeland Security Bill took them over to the DOJ and the FBI helping upgrade their professionalism above the old days.
Which looking at today’s FBI, shows just how horrible the pre-BATFE (Their new designation) days were.
Sorry for second quick comment… but
” “Please remember, however, that it was agents on the ground who let the public know the truth about these incidents when some sought to cover-up inconvenient truths.”
Excuse me? That was “Operation Showtime”. Evidence was destroyed with and after the burning. There is a video of BATF agents “high fiving” themselves amongst the smoking rubble as they literally raised the BATF banner over the scorched compound.
This was a full on assault of the compound. At least one agent may have died from friendly fire. This for 5 auto sears. The melted remains of the Branch arms have never been publically detailed if they had been converted. And then there is the FBI. Hostage Roasting Team..
“There is a video of BATF agents “high fiving” themselves amongst the smoking rubble as they literally raised the BATF banner over the scorched compound.”
I would be surprised, as my understanding is that BATF booked with their tails between their legs immediately after Koresh kicked their incompetent butts, and all the subsequent dirty work was the province of the FBI Hostage
IncinerationRescue Team.Unless they were invited back for the yearbook photos.
There is a video of BATF agents “high fiving” themselves amongst the smoking rubble as they literally raised the BATF banner over the scorched compound.”
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slick willie and reno–hard to imagine a more incompetent/corrupt pair of fools–when waco got started and word began to get out that there was a large group of CHILDREN in the compound, many of our first thoughts were “where are the seals? “–other than perhaps mossad specops, the seals are the best trained people on this planet in performing rescue operations with minimal loss of life to the innocent–instead, reno assembled over eight hundred law enforcement from an alphabet of fed/state agencies and basically yelled “charge!”–her failure/stupidity(and clinton’s)is the primary reason a group of innocent children died in a purely made-for-prime-time demonstration of the fed’s “muscle”
koresh may indeed have been a sick puppy but those children were innocent and did not deserve death at the hands of the feds
Any semi-automatic rifle capable of accepting a detachable magazine above the caliber of .22
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so I guess a semi 30.06 crosses that line….LOL
He said “above” starts at the 223. Ah… the 223 is 0.224″ diameter. But then the 22 Short, Long and Long rifle are also “above 22… at 0.223″…SO… your Ruger 10/22 is an assault rifle IF they push it.
One rifle is the elephant in the room…. the M1 Garand. Clip feed and definitely a really really famous main battle rifle. So suddenly the clip will be redefined as a “magazine”. Words used to mean something…now they mean anything when the time c0mes.
P.S….ATF is considered a “dirty” agency but nowadays FBI and NSA are fighting for the title.
Does that mean that a small caliber at a much higher velocity is ok? Can bullets be made with mercury or some other alloy?
Yep. I found this out when I purchased a .22LR conversion for my .223 that just requires swapping out the bolt carrier group and using a different magazine. Because the bullets are the same diameter, though they are different lengths and weights.
In the exchange with Sen. Cotton I was astonished to see that Cotton kept saying “assault weapon” and Chipman kept saying “assault rifle”, and neither seems to have heard the other or noticed that they were talking at cross purposes. As I understand it “assault rifle” is a real term that has a specific meaning — and not the one Chipman gave, whereas “assault weapon” is a made-up term that has no fixed meaning.
He said the AR-15 is a “particularly lethal weapon”. Did anyone ask him to specify exactly how it’s particularly lethal, compared to other weapons?
The same way Ford is a particularly lethal truck, because they are involved in more fatal accidents than any other brand, because there are more of them out there than any other brand.
Well, except that by that definition the AR-15 is one of the least lethal weapons, because it’s involved in relatively few deaths. So he must be using some other definition. I would have liked for someone to have asked him for it and see whether he could come up with one on the spot.
You are correct. There is a definite military definition of “assault rifle” while the political term is more cosmetic and nebulous. The banners have switched to “assault weapon” to pull more firearms into their “definition” such as handguns. Think of global warming rebranded to climate change. Battle doctrine has been centered more on incapacitation/wounding as it ties up more resources than outright lethality. With the (broad) limitations of the Hague Convention, real engagement ranges and loadout advantages, these varmint class cartridge designs have become a world standard. When the banners say no one needs an “assault weapon” for deer hunting they say it’s too powerful when in reality the rounds are too weak for reliable killing.
“Assault weapon” is the nebulous proposed exception to the Second Amendment, the same way that “hate speech” is the nebulous proposed exception to the First.
Generally, the rounds (.223/5.56mm) are banned for hunting in places where they consider it too small and underpowered. It’s never been considered “too lethal.” However, lots of folks do use the round for hunting (including deer – not all deer are the same size across America 😉 ).
Of course, the idea that a round is TOO lethal is just hilarious. We want to be able to shoot something and have it stop. Most efficient way to do that is for the round to be lethal. The lethaler, the better. (I think they ‘reason’ to that argument from the proportionality principle of modern warfare; it’s a bad bit of ‘reason’.)
I bet the stupid SOB would really hate my Saiga AK, or even worse my 5.45×39 AK-74, now THOSE are nasty little rounds.
Leftist have made the AR-15 their bete noire in the 2A debate. As if banning them would immediately and forever “prevent senseless gun violence.”
They pulled the same play with respect to banning the Confederate flag a couple of years ago. Notice how racism magically disappeared afterwards? (/sarc)
As if banning them would immediately and forever “prevent senseless gun violence.”
Of course banning ARs would have as little effect on gun violence as all earlier gun control-practically none. But don’t worry, that’s a feature, not a bug. Gun control is meant to fail so more gun control (i.e., more control) can be legislated. Heaven forbid a gun control law, short of complete firearms confiscation, that actually stops or seriously reduces gun violence! Gun violence is a necessary component of the successful disarming of America. The anti-gunners couldn’t get any traction without it!
This guy is …something else.
So here’s my optimistic take on his nomination:
Another manifestation of the fear, fury and frustration of the d/progressive with their situation. Their ideological tank is empty. Every idea they are proposing is either a rehash of policies previously abandoned because they were ineffective/unworkable and counterproductive or they are way, way out of the mainstream.
This guy was part of the debacle at Waco. He has brazenly lied about aspects of that event. If the d/progressive had anyone better they would nominate them. They don’t so they go with this stooge.
I contend that the d/progressive know they don’t have ideas and policies that appeal, they cannot win on their ideas. They are now trying to jam as much of their whacky agenda through as possible with the knowledge that they will not have another opportunity anytime soon.
All the rest of have to do is vote in federal elections. Show up and confront the insanity of CRT at school board meetings. Become educated about who and how your local officials are doing business. Hold them accountable.
This guy looks like someone in between a concentration camp guard and a rabid baboon. His association with the Waco massacre is a big NO.
Really? I have been thinking he looks like one of those coaches that screams at the history class he has to teach like they’re his players. The guy who berates the HS quarterback for not completing the 60 yard pass during a blitz.
It’s pretty clear the reason they can’t define an “assault weapon” is that would define a parameter and they want anything.
One of the prime reasons for the shift to “assault weapon” is that there is a solid definition for an “assault rifle.” And that definition is already effectively banned.
none so far have been as dangerously outside the mainstream
Why should I care? “Outside the mainstream” should not be an issue in a constitutional republic. “Outside the Constitution” should be. If the majority has drifted far enough to not be in accord with the Constitution, that’s exactly why we have a constitution – we don’t allow simple majority rule in our country; we ain’t a democracy for a good reason.
I know that we think it’s objectionable that he would be so far from what we think is ‘normal’, but that’s a very bad projection of our attitudes on the populace at large. Populism is not good merely for populism’s sake.
Having said that, I agree that he’s dangerous and outside the Constitution.
Is it possible they’re parading this guy around to *intentionally* fail the vote, so they can bring a sneakier weasel in on a second nomination? It seems to be a Dem hallmark, because it allows no end of pontification and chest-thumping.
“No one wants to take your guns,” they lied.
I have one question for Mr. Chipman.
“How does it feel to want?”
Chipman’s nomination is nothing but a big FU from Biden to American gun owners.
Biden is going to learn that this is a group that you do not want saying FU back at you.