Trump SOTU a hit with viewers
Even CNN found views mostly favorable, which must have killed them.
You can get my quick take on Trump’s State of the Union address here.
What did viewers generally think? According to “instant polls” SOTU was a hit.
CBS News found that:
76 percent of viewers approved of what they heard in Pres. Trump’s #SOTU speech; 72 percent said they approved of Pres. Trump’s ideas for immigration.
CBS NEWS POLL: 76 percent of viewers approved of what they heard in Pres. Trump's #SOTU speech; 72 percent said they approved of Pres. Trump's ideas for immigration. pic.twitter.com/VXJ09v6DKv
— CBS Evening News (@CBSEveningNews) February 6, 2019
Even CNN found favorable views, which must have killed them:
CNN poll on Trump #SOTU: “59% very positive. 17% somewhat positive. 23% negative.”
CNN poll on Trump #SOTU: "59% very positive. 17% somewhat positive. 23% negative."
— Joe Concha (@JoeConchaTV) February 6, 2019
The CNN poll was so favorable, CNN needed to downplay the significance:
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What did CNN expect? After being subjected to “Trump is a lying, doddering old fool!” non-stop for going on 3 years, people tune in to see and unfiltered Trump looking and sounding as sane, presidential and genuine as any president ever has and delivering EXACTLY what voters elected him for. They didn’t exactly set him up to fail on sky-high expectations.
It also didn’t hurt for the Dems to prove without a doubt that they are the anti-American communist party. Today’s reactions from Harris, AOC and the rest are cementing that image by making it clear that they were watching a different president than were the voters.
MAGA BABY!
Crying “Wolf!” .. um .. “Russia, Russia, Russia, collusion, Russian, Russia, Collusion, collusion, Russia, racist, Russia Russia” has it’s limits.
No doubt CNN and CBS among others now have their priorities set. Days upon days of “fact checking” and bringing in talking heads to “discuss” his speech. Funny thing, their discussions just may be quite negative…….Huh. Who would have thought……
Of course….I’m sure they will predictably circle back around to how this POTUS enjoys white and male privilege and gets the benefit of the doubt and wah wah wah.
More like their programming will focus on changing perceptions to be more negative about the SOTU itself. Until next rabbit runs and then they’ll chase that to push the narrative about how bad Trump is. Perhaps it will be in a day or two if the Buzzfeed “story” about leaked emails gets any traction. Or if the NYC AG finds a microphone and tries to change the narrative away from positive.
I guess this knocks the air out of Nancy Pelosi’s gambit.
The Democratic response was a bland stump speech. I was expecting better.
You were expecting better? Based on what? Unicorn fairy tales? Have you not seen the deranged behaviour from Democrats since their shock (HAHAHAHHAA) loss in 2016??
William A. Jacobson: The CNN poll was so favorable, CNN needed to downplay the significance
Actually, pointing out the self-selection involved in a State of the Union poll is important to understanding the results of the poll. Other presidents have had similar approval numbers for their State of the Union addresses.
Stating the bleeding obvious here but none of the previous Presidents, including the great Satan President Bush v2 himself, have had to deal with the complete and utter hatred of the media and the 24/7/9827479292 airing of negative news that Trump has had to put up with.
That alone adds another eleventy eleven points to any poll produced by the MFM.
mailman: That alone adds another eleventy eleven points to any poll produced by the MFM.
Don’t think that’s how statistics work. Here’s the partisan breakdown of audiences from the same State of the Union polls.
Thats EXACTLY how it works my buzzfeed wannabe 🙂
But please do post more links for us all to ignore 😉
mailman: Thats EXACTLY how it works
Teehee. Okay, show your maths then.
Seems pretty obvious that Prof. Jacobson was calling attention to the political biases of CNN. How many times in any SOTU poll conducted during a democrat presidency did CNN “qualify” any favorable results from its own polls? How many times did it ever qualify any favorable poll of any democrat?
AJR: How many times in any SOTU poll conducted during a democrat presidency did CNN “qualify” any favorable results from its own polls?
2016: “The poll is representative only of those who watched Tuesday’s State of the Union, a group that tends to be more supportive of the President giving it than the population as a whole.”
2015: “State of the Union viewers tend to be friendly toward the president delivering the speech”
Don’t know the actual source of your quotes (who is the speaker? in what context? and have no inclination to verify) but your dedication to “fact checking” is commendable. Too bad BuzzFeed isn’t hiring.
AJR: Don’t know the actual source of your quotes (who is the speaker? in what context? and have no inclination to verify)
Um, CNN. We provided links.
AJR: but your dedication to “fact checking” is commendable.
You’re welcome.
“we”? Is that a royal “we” or are you actually working with someone on this? And I thought I was wasting time. And, like I said, I’m not going to “fact check” your quotes for context and accuracy.
AJR: I’m not going to “fact check” your quotes for context and accuracy.
That’s funny. We can provide the link — which points directly to the quote on CNN — but we can’t make you click. Not that it matters. Readers can verify the quotes for themselves.
We suspect the source of your quote, if it is CNN, likely displays the same biases that CNN is renowned for today, and given your penchant for taking quotes out of context in this comments section instead of simply honestly replying to the comment, we suspect the sources are similarly unreliable.
AJR: We suspect the source of your quote, if it is CNN
If?! That’s hilarious! We linked to CNN.com. That is CNN!
AJR: if it is CNN, likely displays the same biases that CNN is renowned for today,
The issue you raised was “How many times in any SOTU poll conducted during a democrat presidency did CNN “qualify” any favorable results from its own polls?” The answer is at least the last four times the opportunity occurred.
We rest our case
Noticeably, you didn’t include the rest of the second quote.
“State of the Union viewers tend to be friendly toward the president delivering the speech, but this group also wants to see compromise. About three-quarters — 74 percent — say they think Obama should attempt to reach a bipartisan compromise with Congress on major issues, up from 67% saying so last year.”
I’ll also wait for some of these sources prior to 2012 when he was up for re-election and when he was berated and derided on a daily basis by the outlet. There’s a very subtle but different connotation to those comments. Since you’re such a good fact checker, do you have any live reports on an Obama SOTU that include the qualifier? With polling reports, that kind of asterisk worthy comment is not that typical in video presentation of the data.
“Other presidents have had similar approval numbers for their State of the Union addresses.”
Yes, but, has CNN ever felt the need to point out out the self-selection involved when covering any other President’s SOTU?
Albigensian: es, but, has CNN ever felt the need to point out out the self-selection involved when covering any other President’s SOTU?
2014: “Tuesday night’s State of the Union audience is more Democratic than the nation as a whole, which is typical for a President Obama speech and indicates that the speech watchers were predisposed to like what Obama said … When George W. Bush was President, his audiences were more Republican than the general public at that time, and his speeches were usually well-received for that same reason.”
2013: “CNN’s best estimate of the number of Democrats in the voting-age population as a whole indicates that the sample is about seven percentage points more Democratic than the general public.”
2013 comment is quite different than the rest.
It provides quantifiable data on partisanship and is actually used in this context to reinforce Obama’s support (7% is not a big shift) rather than to undermine it.
Hahahahahahaha… hilarious.
So CNN/Buzzfeed is now watching Legalinsurrection. Good, perhaps they will get schooled.
HuffPo. LOL. Are you on the payroll?
casualobserver: HuffPo. LOL.
Are you saying they didn’t report the CNN polls correctly? Or do you always substitute your biases in lieu of fact?
No, what’s being said is you’re a paid commie whore, an ignorant shill for Marxist ideology, supporter of the murders of 100 million plus in the last 100 years.
I thought the speech was great. It sets the stage to order the wall built when Democrats continue acting up.
It was an excellent speech – on point. It set the stage for the Dems to immolate themselves by going against everything the people want. I hope they succeed. It’s quite comical to watch and listen to the pundits / networks / newspapers tie themselves into pretzels trying to find something to criticize. They look ridiculous, but we already knew that and now others who watched the SOTU and the aftermath, also know.
I would love to take away from the naysayers (starting with Pelosi, Harris, Bernie, etc.) everything their 401Ks / investments have earned in the past 2 years before allowing them to criticize. Wouldn’t that be fun!
I never watch. Results speak volumes.
Don’t piss on my leg and tell me its raining where the border wall is supposed to be or that Health insurance isn’t still double what it was before Obama took office.
Meanwhile in Washington State, they are going after gun rights HARD. NRA is taking them to court over a couple of provisions that are supposed to go into effect in July and a ton of gun grabbing bills are running through our state legislature. On that front at least the SCOTUS is there as a back stop (for now…till someone…and I’m not naming names -Roberts- goes squishy)
“I thought it was great. I think he’s scared,” Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) told reporters when asked about Trump’s remarks. “He sees that everything is closing in on him and he knows that he’s losing the battle of public opinion.”
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/428663-ocasio-cortez-progressives-accuse-trump-of-using-socialism-as-scare-tactic
In Occasional Cortex’s alternate reality.
Let’s not forget the performance by the Democratic People’s Republic of Democrats Cheer Squad:
https://nordic.businessinsider.com/north-korea-cheer-squad-singing-at-the-winter-olympics-2018-2/
It was a great speech. He had you listening to hear what he had to share. Pres. Trump delivered a uplifting and inclusive speech. Not like Obama who spoke down to his audience using a patronizing and condescending attitude. Pres. Trump was refreshing compared to Obama who his per usual that in his last State of the Union lasting 64 min referred to himself 169 Times using; “I,-140x’s, I’m -10x’s, I’ve-4x’s, I’ll-3x’s me-4x’s, mine-1x and my-6’x’s (in lieu of ‘My fellow Americans”.
What are you doing AV? You are going to have Zachery posting links proving Trumps speech was a great big dog whistle for alt right rwaaaace haters!
Well, well, well. The Democrats in California are trying like hell to paper over the poll results from the SOTU.
Here’s the reporting in today’s San Diego Union-Tribune, which is also likely to be in the LA Times.
https://enewspaper.sandiegouniontribune.com/desktop/sdut/default.aspx?pubid=ee84df93-f3c1-463c-a82f-1ab095a198ca
After polling results showing huge approval numbers for that speech, the U-T prints an article about Nancy Pelosi’s bad manners and some truly weird polling numbers. Interestingly, the polling results do not have a separate article entry of their own, nor are they attached to the Pelosi article.
In brief, the entire point of the survey article appears to be to report low numbers without analysis, and including responses from people who got their information from biased coverage of the speech rather than the speech itself, and regardless of their context or relevance. Splitting up responses on a scale of 1-10 and by three demographic groups, without reporting the relative size of the groups, further obscures the meaning of the poll.
This is Rachel Maddow level of spin.
From Zachariel:
…..We can provide the link — which points directly to the quote on CNN — but we can’t make you click. ….
So that thing has admitted what it is.