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Trump Prepared For Partial Government Shutdown Lasting Months or Years

Trump Prepared For Partial Government Shutdown Lasting Months or Years

“I don’t think it will last months but I am prepared.”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MHZNDyMaQY

Friday, President Trump confirmed shutdown negotiations would head into the weekend. House Democrats passed a funding resolution that the Senate has yet to take up.

Trump is unwilling to budge until funding for a southern border wall is part of the deal and Democrats refuse to write in funding for a southern border wall.

After a meeting with the president Friday, ranking Democrats claimed Trump was threatening a long shutdown unless they gave him his border wall, an accusation Trump owned in a press conference later in the day. Trump called the meeting contentious but productive.

The highlights from USA Today:

Trump acknowledged saying that the shutdown could last months or years. “Absolutely I said that,” he told reporters. He also said he hoped the matter would be resolved soon after more negotiations over the weekend, although it was not clear whether he had offered Democrats any new proposals.

“I don’t think it will” last months, he said of the shutdown, “but I am prepared.”

Democratic leaders struck a more pessimistic note, saying Trump refused to consider a plan to re-open the government now while negotiations continue.

“He resisted,” said Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y. “In fact, he said he’d keep the government closed for a very long period of time – months or even years.”

New House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., said Democrats “are committed to keeping our border safe,” and “we can do that best when government is open.”

Nevertheless, Trump insisted the meeting with Democrats was “productive” and said the parties agreed to create teams of negotiators who will meet over the weekend to discuss a deal to re-open the government and provide for border security, including a wall.

Whether he’s trolling or serious is unclear, but Trump told reporters he’s toying with declaring a state of emergency, which would allow him access to DOD funds with which he could begin construction his big, beautiful wall. USA Today ctd:

Taking questions from reporters, Trump also said he is considering declaring a “national emergency” over the money, a move that would theoretically allow him to use Department of Defense money to begin construction of a border wall.

“Absolutely … we can do it,” he said.

During the lengthy news conference, Trump also:

– Talked about using what he called “the military version of eminent domain” to seize private land for border wall construction. Conservative Republicans have long criticized the government’s use of eminent domain, and backed high-profile lawsuits to restrict its use.

– Said he would consider asking Vice President Mike Pence and other executive branch officials to forgo planned pay raises while the shutdown is in place.

Trump maintained that he wants $5.6 billion for border security and wall funding, and dismissed proposed compromises ranging from $1.3 billion to $2.5 billion.

A portion of Trump’s press conference is here:

Pelosi, agitated about The Wall is here:

Trump’s letter to Congress:

Trump's Letter to Congress — Shutdown 2019 by Legal Insurrection on Scribd

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If they aren’t essential, fire them. And announce there will be no back pay.

Trump was forged in New York City. He knows when to stand his ground and when to advance. That said, critical services will be funded, and other features will hopefully not, again, be selectively, physically blocked.

    Schumer was also forged in NYC, and yet he went out of that meeting saying, out of his own two lips, a phrase that could only bolster the spirits of those cheering Trump on during the shutdown, and to give him renewed credibility with your Ann Coulter types. Schumer gave it far greater credibility than if Trump had confirmed some kind of anonymous leak.

    So I don’t want to give too much credit to the city for this one.

    “Trump was forged in New York City….”

    More accurately, Trump was forged in the borough of Queens, New York City.

    People from Queens are tough, but more brainy than, say, Brookynites or Bronx-dwellers (No, Baby-Hitler-Cortez did not grow up in the Bronx.) Manhattanites are spoiled liberals. People from Statin Island are…well…people from Statin Island. (No one’s figured them out yet.)

    Yes, Trump was forged in NYC, and all the ‘evidence’ against him was/is/remains forged (in the criminal sense) in DC.

    We are Trump.

JusticeDelivered | January 4, 2019 at 7:48 pm

I love watching the psychotic left playing poker with Trump. They bought the shutdown and Trump will likely slowly roast them over it.

I love the fact that TSA screeners are calling out sick- and airplanes continue to fly! I mean, can you really imagine a world without TSA?

Oh, wait, I don’t have to imagine. I grew up in that world.

    randian in reply to gospace. | January 4, 2019 at 8:54 pm

    Fewer screeners means much longer lines. This is TSA trying to screw over passengers to get them to pressure Trump, no different than popular national parks and monuments getting shut down.

    Thinker in reply to gospace. | January 5, 2019 at 9:37 am

    Why do we even need the TSA? Transportation worked just fine prior to the inception of the TSA. All we need is for airports to hire their own security workers. Your airport doesn’t feel safe enough? Fine, fly from a different one. It’s called being a savvy shopper folks!

    I say, Trump should immediately dissolve the child molesting TSA. If those folks are worth anything, the will get employed by the airports.

Antifundamentalist | January 4, 2019 at 8:12 pm

I’m sick of the Grandstanding on all sides. If they’d passed even a basic budget for the fiscal year back in September, then we wouldn’t be dealing with a shutdown now. But they are so busy playing partisan politics that they can’t do their jobs.

    You think Trump is playing partisan politics?

    Without that wall, kiss our country goodbye. And if we vote in another Odumbo, no wall will save us from an Odumbo-like a-hole opening its gates.

      Amen. Odd that this guy is claiming that President Trump is ‘grandstanding’ when holding firm on the border wall, which is the #1 reason we elected him. It was his promise. I guess it’s shocking to some people that a politician would seek to deliver on an election promise. We must regain control of our borders if we want to remain a sovereign nation.

      Just calm down, nobody is being hurt by this federal government shutdown except a bunch of worthless bureaucrats. We’re much better without them ‘helping’ us.

Trump maintained that he wants $5.6 billion for border security and wall funding

Every time they want to “talk” some more, Trump should bump up the price. D’rat delaying tactics should have a cost.

Bit I imagine that DJT hardly needs my advice on how to negotiate.

    JusticeDelivered in reply to tom_swift. | January 4, 2019 at 9:51 pm

    I was thinking this morning that Trump should increase the demand from 5 to 6 billion, the next day from 6 to 8 billion, the next day to 12 billion, and continue doubling the increase each day.

    That increase is a binary sequence (5 plus 1,2,4,8,16), I am explaining that for R-Rump’s benefit, aka Rags. I doubt that he knows how to do math in binary, octal or hexadecimal 🙂

      “I doubt that he knows how to do math in binary, octal or hexadecimal…”

      It’s hard for him to scratch-out the formula: they don’t let him use sharp things were he is.

      In 15 days the amount will rise to the total annual total personal income of all Americans (approx $16 trillion). Two days later, the amount rises to the total annual personal income of the 7 billion inhabitants of the world (approx $70 trillion) and in a few more days, the total wealth of the world.

        JusticeDelivered in reply to Hub. | January 5, 2019 at 4:52 pm

        I figured that by the forth days they would be ready to negotiate, and then Trump could graciously offer them a half price deal of 12 billion.

        I was liquidating some real estate I owned, a young cocky punk came in and made a ridiculous offer. As a result, I extracted 30% more than what I would have sold it for otherwise. One, I did not need to sell it, and two, I disliked the arrogant piece of crap.

He should just start shuttering departments, since congress is no longer funding; great opportunity to start shrinking government (use to be republican objective….). Most government employees are democrats, anyway.

    iconotastic in reply to slagothar. | January 5, 2019 at 12:06 am

    Exactly true. For example, maybe downsize the Department of Education to a small platoon. More education for less federal dollars!

“It had been my hope that Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen would have the opportunity to deliver a presentation discussing the facts about the depth and severity of the humanitarian crisis and the security crisis that is now unfolding at the Southern Border.

However, some of those present did not want to hear the presentation at the time, and so I have instead decided to make the presentation available to all Members of Congress. ”

The Democrats didn’t want to hear it, so he opened up the presentation to the entire country. This Congress is nothing special.

And here is my big chance to fish and hunt to my heart’s content…
Dang… I just cannot take the time.

The federal government could use some rearrangement. Trump should relocate the DHS HQ to Area 51; the Dept. Of Education belongs in Prudhoe Bay; the USDA works well in Iowa and Death Valley has plenty of space available for other DC based organizations.

Ah… 6 years of shut-down.
Pure bliss.

Nevertheless, he resisted.

The Dems missed a huge opportunity. All they had to do was act sane, and they can’t even do that.

If Pelosi had put the Senate bill from last session through the House the *first* thing when they gaveled it into session, and Schumer had announced that every Dem would vote for it in the Senate, and they had declared something on the order of “We are willing to work with the President at all times when his priorities are in line with the good of the country” or something like that, they would have been able to frame themselves as reasonable people who could be trusted to run the government, instead of frothing loons. It would have *yanked* the wind out of Trump’s sails.

At this rate, Trump only has six years in office left.

    tom_swift in reply to georgfelis. | January 5, 2019 at 2:27 am

    All they had to do was act sane, and they can’t even do that.

    They don’t want to. Their plan does not include anything like that.

    If you take, as a model, the postulate that Republicans are from Mars, Democrats are from Venus, it’s obvious that the D’rats are not planning to dominate the relationship by being logical, reasonable, or in any way easy to work with. They hope to triumph by being erratic, unpredictable, demanding, and noisy. And so things get weirder and weirder as one side makes increasing strident demands and the other becomes more desperate to patch things up. (You know, like the goofy idea that the President’s job is to “unite the country”.) The modern obsession—mania, even—for arbitrary fringe issues like tranny “rights”, or imaginary crises like “triggers” and “privilege” are obvious examples of crises which are not meant to be solved.

    Leftoid activists follow the same game plan. And so all America looks at the news in the morning, thinks that things can’t get any weirder, and chases after the weirdos hoping that a little compromise will make things better.

    Or, you can think of it as Lucy jerking the football again and again and again. She’s helpless once Charlie Brown stops trying to play a game he can’t win. And she has no Plan B once Charlie takes control and starts playing a game he can win.

Oh PLEEEEEEEEEEZE let the shutdown last for YEARS!!! PLEEEEEEEZE Nancy and Chuckie, stick to your guns on this! Without being paid, hundreds of thousands of “non-essential” Federal Government employees will quite their jobs and have to earn an honest living in the private sector…..or…go on welfare (LOL)

Much like the sad <i<sequester this shutdown will last for years. Neither side will give an inch. It is a great opportunity for Trump to shed Democrat government workers and reform government. Thanks Chuck and Nancy.

The longer it lasts the better it will be for the rest of us. People quickly figure out a supposed government shutdown ain’t so bad after all. There was a reason Obama used Barrycades. He wanted to punish people to make them believe a shutdown is a terrible thing.

I came across a link showing Brain Kolfage showing up to meet Nancy Pelosi to collect the $1 for the wall that she promised. She was supposed to be available to discuss immigration. Think she showed? Watch to find out.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afNl7Ur-RRI&feature=youtu.be

Without a wall, we have no sovereignty. The wall IS the most important issue. It MUST be built. I pray Trump doesn’t budge or negotiate, and the RINO’s do the right thing for once.

China, North Korea and the rest of the world’s bad actors are watching to see if he is the tough SOB he claims to be or whether he’ll fold like his predecessors.

Trump has no down side to waiting it out all the way to 2020.

    “Trump has no down side to waiting it out all the way to 2020…”

    Amen! The Trump Base is standing firm: they ONLY way it will be moved is by Trump himself not standing firm.

    For better or worse, people love alphas as their leaders.

    In the case of Odumbo, we had an Alfalfa.

    In the case of hillary clinton, we had a clueless criminal, too busy looting and drinking.

    In the case of mittens romney and mccain, we had macabre examples of two of the most sickening of rino rats. (Unfortunately, one of them is still crawling around.)

    But in the case of Trump, we have a true alpha, and one dedicated to the nation as it was founded. Count your blessings and continue your unabated faith and support.

Every government employee, in fact every employee, in the country should know that they may face an interruption in their pay and should plan accordingly. So, any government employee, who is facing a financial crisis because they miss one or two paychecks, is on their own. And, when the government is back in business, back pay will be in the first paycheck. No one should lose anything. But, the furloughed employees will put more pressure on the Congress, especially the Dems, then they can put on Trump, to end the shutdown.

Now, in reality, neither the Dems nor Trump will really lose if Trump stands firm and the Dems capitulate. Trump will claim a win and his constituency will cheer. The Dems will claim that they capitulated to Trump’s “blackmail” to save the workers “affected” by the shutdown. And, with the help of the media, their constituency will cheer them and boo Trump. Both sides know this. But, the Dems have to allow this to run for a few weeks to gain the maximum spin. The only way either side loses is if Trump backs down.

It is all political kabuki.